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With all the new crazy self-appointed Chief Overseers, Apostles, Prophets, Pharisees, legalists, and outright liars leading various Churches of God today, it is important to hold these agents of deception accountable.
Herbert Armstrong's Tangled Web of Corrupt Leaders
1. Dave Pack has always suffered from a bad case of DIARRHEA OF THE MOUTH. Perhaps this just comes with the territory of being a paid babbler. Of course, it is actually Dave's hearers who will do the real suffering. What a pain in the ears! What mind-numbing noise!!
2. Dave Pack suffers from DELUSIONS OF GRANDEUR as shown by all the high and mighty positions to which he humbly but eagerly promoted himself (Apostle, Joshua the High Priest, Elijah the Prophet, “That Prophet” of Deuteronomy 18:18-19, and is working on becoming Messiah).
3. Dave Pack suffers from EXTREME SELFISHNESS as shown by his earth-scorching “common” theft scam that says everyone must send him virtually everything they have (cash, savings, retirement plans, houses, possessions, etc.), “or no salvation if you don't.” It all goes to satisfy Dave's needs and wants, and does not get distributed to anyone else as they have need. Dave's followers really do suffer financially as a result of this moral deficiency of Dave's.
4. Dave Pack suffers from MENTAL INSTABILITY as shown by the Bait & Switch scam of his continually changing doctrines. Endless supposedly logical “proofs” that never really prove anything are a sign of an ugly mind. Dave's followers were originally going to be the most knowledgeable and stable church people around, but instead ended up being some of the most ignorant and messed up people around.
5. Dave Pack suffers from one of the worst cases of PREDICTION ADDICTION that I have ever seen, with ridiculous new, wrong, prophetic date guesses each week. Again, it is actually Dave's foolish followers who will really suffer from this mental health issue of Dave's. People need to be very careful not to let Dave's problems become their own problems, for there will be numerous problems and they will be BIG problems.
6. Dave Pack's various other ailments led to a major case of FOOT IN MOUTH DISEASE. Dave is simply always wrong. It was inevitable.
7. The basic root cause of all of Dave Pack's mental health issues probably is just a bad old fashion case of SATANIC POSSESSION. Satan probably gets tired of being cooped up inside his regular home in Gerald Flurry's fat old head and likes to spend some time away from home in his vacation head of Dave Pack for some really wild “fun” and mind games with Dave's unsuspecting followers.
The video clip of David C. Pack warning the members of The Restored Church of God of how poopy-faced some of the former members can be was quite popular this past week.
The plight Dave is going through touched the heartstrings of some because people love a good underdog story.
Part 387 – August 15, 2022
@ 39:23 I mean, we’ve got people so wicked trying, besieging us…People who were once with us are more wicked almost than the devil.
Whoever they may be, they must be prideful, self-righteous, lying, thieving, deceiving, blaspheming, and murderous. But that still is not good enough because Dave has higher standards.
How does one become “more wicked almost” than anything? I do not get it. You are either “more” or you are not. If you are “more almost” would that not mean are “equally” wicked? Perhaps Dave was sparing these people their feelings. Or he was being sensitive to the devil. I am not sure which at this point.
Perhaps if Satan heard some heavy breathing just over his shoulder, he would know how close some human is to overtaking his position as the big cheese. He might then step up his A-game and really start to cause some problems inside RCG.
The comment was vague, so the “people” he was referring to are yet to be identified. If this is you, come forward and show yourself. The curiosity is killing me. Please write me at exRCGwebsite@gmail.com and I will do what seems right in my own eyes.
I have a theory as to what kind of things “wicked people” may be up to. Humor me for a moment as I pull these out of the air. You know, wild guesses.
Invoke God’s name as a testimony to the truth of a matter, but then walk it back later.
Fabricate a financial doctrine by using the Bible fraudulently.
Collect funds for a specific event to then spend it on something else.
Collect funds for “doing the work” to then buy property instead.
Tell everyone your primary goal is to preach the Gospel of the Kingdom of God as Jesus Christ instructed, but then stop actively doing that.
Bring in another Jesus and another gospel.
Make promises you later break.
Say you will “never again” do something, but do it again.
Blame others for your failings.
See yourself all throughout the Bible using “because I say so” as proof.
Discourage people from “proving all things” in their Bible.
Is a prophet, is not a prophet, is a prophet, is not a prophet.
Skip part of Sabbath services by sneaking out the back door through the kitchen.
Skip Holy Day A.M. services entirely.
Set a date for the return of Jesus Christ to have it proven to be false by history.
Change the meaning of words in the Bible to fit the current theory.
Mark those you oppose by declaring God will kill them soon.
Tell mourning parents and spouses that they will see their dead loved ones soon, but then nothing happens.
That is enough for now. If I did any of those things while claiming to be a minister, I would be quaking in my boots right now.
For those just joining us, this is not the first time in the past few months that David C. Pack went on a “meanie people” tirade.
@ 44:55 The most vicious, evil wicked-hearted men I have ever dealt with, I’ve dealt with in this church. Literally.
@ 45:37 And they’re the most murderous, lying, thieving people, in many cases, that have come into our ministry.
@ 46:35 It’s a curious anomaly that you see the ministers who’re supposed to be teaching the truth abusing, lying, stealing, things that would just curl your hair ten times over if I told you.
@ 47:11 I’ve learned to sit in that room up there, we talk about doctrine and know that I might be sitting across from or next to a minister who’s gonna try to destroy this church within an hour.
@ 51:29 You just do not understand our enemies, they want to murder the church. You don’t understand that. These are the these are deeply satanic men.
@ 1:39:26 The worst possible people keep leaving and poisoning the well out there.
A line from earlier this week will become my new mantra.
Part 387
@ 06:07 A simple passing of time forced this conclusion.
The more time that passes with another failed date for the return of Jesus Christ which Dave hammered, the more people inside The Restored Church of God will wake up. Although, “wake up” is not accurate. They know what is going on, but they do not know what to do about it. Nobody has a great answer for, “Where do I go when I leave RCG?” – If I knew, I would be there.
I know of not one person who has left who thinks NOW they have it right. Many have a place that “is good for us” if they have not already chucked it all and gone back to pork and Christmas. Sorry, Kevin. Love you, man.
Things do not look good from this side of the fence. Full disclosure. People inside RCG know what is going on is wrong, but they see no alternative. I have no pearl of wisdom or box of secrets to sell.
The idea of attending where the truth “used” to be is better than being where it is not at all. That is the thinking. It is a scary idea to be walking away from a structure that has the “look and feel” of God’s Church but the salt has lost its savor.
David C. Pack tells you everything you need to hear
to make a judgment call if he is true or not.
The people inside RCG know what he is doing. The people inside RCG know what their Bible says.
Prayer. Fasting. Bible study. They all told me I needed to leave. Whether I was “vomited out” or I left of my own accord remains to be seen. Full disclosure.
Herbert W. Armstrong came up with the analogy of arsenic in a cake and David C. Pack used to repeat that concept. Not so much these days, curiously.
How much poisoned cake those still inside The Restored Church of God can tolerate is on a case-by-case basis.
But everyone there can agree. The cake is poisoned.
Are reader here commented on another thread about the greatest COG prophet the church has ever seen since Jesus walked this earth:
Zippo said... And in today's sermon, Bob gave a "who knows" speculation that some of his writings may go into the Bible. GTA and others suggested before that the book of Acts may be expanded to include all COG history.
The Great Bwana is in for a shock when he finds out there is no way in gehenna fire that will ever happen! The Church of God has always held a belief that the acts of COG members and ministers would be added to the Book of Acts because it supposedly has no ending as other books tend to have.
That is such a presumptuous claim that it is almost blasphemous. Herbert and Garner Ted both claimed this and it was taught at HQ. The main problem with all of this is that Armstrongism considers itself and its followers as the only true Christians who would qualify to be added to the book. Christians over the last 2,000 years that were not "COG" members are totally cut out of the picture. Their lives and ministry are worthless compared to the glorious words and lives of COG self-appointed prophets and apostles.
Who in their right mind in a glorious millennium would want to sit and read the words of Bob Thiel? Dying in the tribulation would have been a better fate for them than that!