Saturday, April 15, 2023

"fornication, masturbation, pornography, fantasy sex, sexting, and same-sex relations"

 


Imagine if you will, that it's Sabbath morning and you finally have all the kids dressed and snacks packed as you head out for your one-hour drive to church services in the Odd Fellows Lodge in the neighboring city. Being that it is post-Passover time you are looking forward to hearing a sermon about how the works of Jesus on the cross and his resurrection have made you a new person covered by grace and mercy.

Then you finally arrive at church and open up your briefcase balanced on your lap and pull out your Moffatt Bible and notebook as you expect to take copious notes for your edification late in the week when your spiritual reserves have been depleted.

This week you are doubly blessed on this Sabbath day as the glorious leader of your church is the guest speaker! Woo hoo! The long drive will be worth it!

You notice a canvas graphic hanging on the wall behind the podium with creases in it as if it had just been unfolded and taped to the wall. It is another indication of amazing things to be heard over the next hour and a half.

After three rousings hymns and a five-minute opening prayer asking for Father in heaven to bless the preacher so that his words may edify us so we can inculcate the prophet's words, you settle in as a local elder gives a 20-minute sermonette on why it is important that real men do not swear black socks with their dark suits. You look down and see your black socks and subconsciously reach down and pull your pants leg down as much as you can to cover them. Red-faced you slide your feet as far back under the metal folding chair as you can looking forward to the end of the sermonette. 

Then, mercifully he stops and it's time to sing another rousing hymn and then sit back down for announcements about local fundraisers and fruit sales that desperately are being done to raise money to send to Africa. Then it's time for the wife of the local minister to sing special music in her high-pitched off-tune voice that grates on your nerves till you want to scream, yet you dutifully smile when she is done.

Then the moment you have been waiting for has arrived and the church leader is about to speak! He jumps from his seat and bounds on stage with his big thick Bible and a few of his newly released books he has written. His arms begin to raise and his hands start flapping as he stutters and clears his throat numerous times.

Then he starts speaking about fornication, masturbation, pornography, fantasy sex, sexting, and same-sex relations. Your else roll back in your head and your butt suddenly starts getting numb. You look at your watch and you still have one hour and twenty-five minutes yet to go and immediately know that Jesus won't be mentioned much, if at all.

You write at the top of your note page "The Seventh Commandment" and start taking notes. The sub-headings are starting to fill up several pages.

The Seventh Commandment teaches that people are not to commit adultery. Why? 
 
What is adultery? 
 
What about fornication, masturbation, pornography, fantasy sex, sexting, and same-sex relations? 
 
Are there societal costs for violating the 7th Commandment? 
 
What about crime and disease? 
 
What did Jesus say about marriage, adultery, and divorce? 
 
Is there such a thing as spiritual adultery? 
 
Were Sodom and Gomorrah destroyed for their abominations and going after ‘strange flesh’? 
 
Was Sodom also for pride? 
 
Do those destroyed in Sodom and Gomorrah have any possible hope? 
 
Does the Bible condemn cross-dressing? 
 
Does the Bible teach the condoning of homosexual and lesbian relationships? 
 
Could marriage be a God-plan relationship teaching us about Christ and His church? 
 
Was adultery called a sin before God wrote the Ten Commandments down on Mt. Sinai? 
 
Should all that breath be concerned about avoiding sexual immorality? 
 
Were problems with sexual immorality prophesied for the last days? 
 
Is marriage supposed to be about love and not lust? What about faithfulness?

Finally, the speaker is close to the end of his sermon and you make a note in your notebook and show it to your wife...Why hasn't he spoken about Jesus and what was accomplished?

The sermon finally ends and there's a final hymn about dashing the skulls of people against the rocks and a gratuitous final prayer is said. By this point, you jump out of your seat to try and get circulation back into your sore butt. You turn around and put your Moffatt Bible back in the briefcase and snap it shut, then gather the kid's toys and blanket up from the floor and put it back in the bag. You and your wife both look wearily at each other and silently agree to shake a few hands and take off for your drive back home.

As you settle into the car and you pull onto the highway the snack bag comes out filled with dried beef sandwiches on organic whole wheat bread, organic grapes, bananas, and a few fig bars. As you drive you silently wonder how much of that sex talk your kids had absorbed.

You finally arrive home as the sun is starting to set. You soon dial the local pizza joint and order a pizza, turn on the television, and settle in to decompress.

Thus ends a typical Sabbath in the improperly named "continuing" Church of God.


 

Friday, April 14, 2023

Remember this Bob Thiel??????? Bob Thiel's African Representative Sentenced to Life in Prison for Shooting at Police When Being Arrested for Fraud


This was posted WEDNESDAY, APRIL 23, 2014. Bob's church has been corrupt from the start! 



Bob Thiel's new church is off to a rollicking start! One of his minister/representatives has been sentenced to life in prison for a shoot-out with police and for fraud.

Bob was such a good evaluator of character that he brought on George Obunga Otieno as his representative in the African region. Bob did not do due diligence in vetting the guy.  Otieno scammed another COG prior to joining up with Thiel.

I guess that "double dose" of the holy spirit did not do much to open Thiel's eyes.


James Malm is reporting the following saga of the Thiel/Otieno situation


About a year ago I wrote to Bob Thiel warning him about fraud in east Africa particularly in Kenya.  He responded thanking me and saying that he was being very careful, then he took on George Obunga Otieno as his rep in the region.  
 
George was later found to be a scammer and Bob was invited to hold his Feast with Richard Trevor and Bill Goff’s group; because of the lateness of the time, and for economic reasons due to the G. Otieno situation. 

Richard Trevor informs me that:   

We knew it first, [Actually I knew it first and warned Bob] and with much persuasion, convinced Bob that he wasn’t trustable.  The man (George Obunga Otieno) is now in jail with a life sentence for engaging in a shootout with the police when they came to arrest him for other fraudulent activities.  He was sentenced within weeks.  The US could take a lesson.  AND, the fellow’s cousin, Polycap Ogalo, is (was?) [employed] with the Police there, but has been conspicuous by his absence since we discovered his [He also tried to defraud these groups] fraud with us.  He might’ve been fired, but all who know of the situation are mum. 

The man (George Obunga Otieno) scammed James Russell before Bob, taking a large amount to fund a feast for him (CoG in Truth).  Though he used a different name (that’s common in Africa) we suspected he was one-and-the-same fellow by his mailing address and by using another person to enquire about the FoT in Homa Bay, we realized it was a ruse.  It never happened.  That was to be Bob’s site, and we had been working on one nearby, but thought it better to merge the two [allowing Bob to join the other folks site after his letdown with George].   

Bob Thiel recently made a trip to Kenya partially funded by Richard Trevor and Bill Goff to hold a COG convention.   
That was our interest, to have some credentialed person meet and evaluate the situation.  That’s why we helped with the funding of this [Bob's] trip.  Earlier, we intended that the Kenyans host their own elders’ convention, so that they could meet and assess the genuinety of each other, but when Bob indicated he was intending to go there, that proved the better option, and less costly.   Quite a large number of elders did attend.
Malm then points out Thiel's claim that he has 20 some congregations in East Africa is not true.  This is something that many of us have suspected all along.

I am informed that these groups will continue with the same foreign sponsors as before, and that the purpose of this meet was a “get to know your neighbor event”, to fight any possible future scams.  There are several independent groups involved in the meetings and Thiel’s claim that  CCOG currently has over 20 congregations in East Africa, with more expected soon.” is purely in his own imagination; unless he is attempting a takeover of these other groups.   

In fact Thiel may have attempted to entice these various groups to join CCOG [hence the 20 congregations claim]; which is why Bill Goff and other COG leaders have now rushed to Kenya to asses the situation.  The meetings were meant as cooperation against fraud: Did Thiel  use their money to go to Kenya to try and poach their congregations?  

It was Bob who convinced them to partially fund and send him.   “we intended that the Kenyans host their own elders’ convention, so that they could meet and assess the genuinety of each other, but when Bob indicated he was intending to go there, that proved the better option, and less costly.”  Now that Bill Goff had to rush to Kenya anyway,  it does not appear much cheaper than him going in the first place.

Angry African Minister Of Bob Thiel Says: "Once you come I will arrest you completely if you think am joking try."




Below is a letter one of Bob Thiel's African "ministers" sent to Terry Nelson. Apparently, he has watched the Great Bwana and Chief Overseer with his anger issues and feels he can do the same thing. 

Such a loving attitude! Bob has trained him well!

"Radson Mulozowa is very mad that the entire CCOG in Malawi has also left because of his whoring after Women and Demon Magic" 
 

 
From: RADSON MULOZOWA <radsonmulozowa@_____>
Date: Tue, Apr 11, 2023, 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: A Demonic man
To: Terry Nelson <vitalogydoc@______>


A Dog like you you can't do anything to me 
 
A prostitute like you 
 
Can a demon lead church of God 
 
Foolish person who is making Priscilla suffering because of loans 
 
Plan your coming and see what will happen to you 
 
You are joking terry am not a fool like you who is buy brethren with money not the truth 
 
Am tired with you and all your agents in Malawi are going to testify about all the videos you have been sending against me 
 
If foster is saying the truth why is he hiding from police to answer the videos 
 
I will not tolerate the foolish move you are doing 
 
Enough is enough 
 
Shame on you a foolish terry 
 
You are going to regret soon

That's why Dr Bob didn't ordained you as a minister because of demons operating in you  

Then in another email, Radson sent this: 


Let me tell you that you will never come to Malawi . Once you come I will arrest you completely if you think am joking try. 
 
May children are suffering because of a hyena like you who come to Malawi as a minister not knowing that you were a bat 
 
Before you come to Malawi all was well with Priscilla but when foolish terry come you mislead my wife in the name of starting organization inorder to fulfill your desire. 
 
Am not happy with you and you are going to know who is Mulozowa. 
 
Though am assisting them it's different from the time i.was close with them 
 
Priscilla is being taken to police now and then because of loans from different people because of your foolish advice from you 
 
When I was with Priscilla he was not sleeping without food he had plenty of food.i was able to harvest 70 bags of maize. This year she has nothing from the garden and she is starving because of a dog like you 
 
Once you get here am going to arrest you completely 
 
You have destroyed the future of my children they were happy but you have removed their happiness because of your foolish minds 
 
Know that am not happy with you and I will act strongly 
 
Had it being you loved her why couldn't you square all the loans she has because of your foolish calling 
 
A Demonic man, a Dog like you destroying my family inorder to get rich in Africa 
 
God is going to punish you completely 
 
Did God called you to destroy families or preach the gospel 
 
I don't know who called you a wizard like you is it God 
 
Am not happy with you a son of snake 
 
That's why you were an able to preach but reading pamphlets as catholic priest 
 
Had it being you loved Priscilla,why is she starving to survive 
 
Priscilla is now a begger yet since I got married to her she have never gone to police department because of loans 
 
Sort all the loans she has because it has happened because of you and she is not at peace because of summons from police now and then 
 
If you are in love why failing to assist her to the point that she do sleep without food 
 
The future of my children was bright but you have turned it to bad that's why am not happy with you a big foolish terry and Alexander 
 
Look Benjamin has failed to write her examination because you have spooled his mind and he can't come to me to ask for assistance 
 
Go to mental hospital you are totally mad in destroying future of my children 
 
Very foolish terry together with your son Andre 
 
Am not happy with you destroying my family inorder to get my children suffer many things 
 
Very soon am starting dealing with people who have destroyed the future of my children