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With all the new crazy self-appointed Chief Overseers, Apostles, Prophets, Pharisees, legalists, and outright liars leading various Churches of God today, it is important to hold these agents of deception accountable.
Herbert Armstrong's Tangled Web of Corrupt Leaders
Poor little guy! His African leaders are making a mockery of the greatest COG prophet to ever lead a COG. No matter what he tells his leaders there they do what they want to do. Impotent and confined to his little town in California hiding behind his little storefront, this great leader cannot gain the respect he thinks he deserves, whether it is in the COG at large or from his followers in Africa.
The Apostle Paul wrote:
1 Therefore I exhort first of all that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks be made for all men, 2 for kings and all who are in authority, that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and reverence. 3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, 4 who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. (1 Timothy 2:1-4)
Brethren, in many places, we hear of leaders that campaign for offices. Our focus is not to be that, but we are to pray for our leaders, essentially so the work of God will not be hindered. Prayer, not politics, is what we should be involved in.
David C. Pack was forced to give two messages back-to-back this week because some faithless members were weary of being eunuchs. “The Greatest Untold Story! (Part 439)” was given on May 2, 2023. Part 440 on May 3. That was not his plan, and Dave let us know it.
Those in RCG who only listen to Parts 439 and 440 will be in the dark about what their Pastor General is changing. Compounded by confusing pronouns, you will be lost if you do not observe him carefully on video. You can never be sure which Kingdom he is talking about unless you follow the dancing finger.
Some elements of these articles will be interwoven between both Parts because some content was presented that way. A quick summary for the short-attention folks is in order.
• WE Misunderstood Some Things
• Pointing—This Is The Way
• Jesus Christ Returns On Second Passover—MAYBE
• No Crown For King Charles III—MAYBE
• A Pentecost Kingdom Start—No More
• Permanent Death For 5.2 Billion People—No More
• RCG’s Growth Rate—Flat
• The Series Is Over
• Daniel Is Unsealed
• If We Are Still Here…
The second Passover, as the Bible and Church Administration instructed, has already lapsed. That was Thursday evening until sunset last night. David C. Pack’s counterfeit second Passover started last night and ends tonight at 8:28 PM ET.
The Bible is clear that Iyar 14 is the correct date. A false teacher’s version is Iyar 15. The center of the full moon occurred in the afternoon of Iyar 14. How the Bible and the lunar cycle both expose David C. Pack as a biblical fraud is just a fantastic coincidence.
See, Dave? Even the moon calls you a liar. Some commenters call him “the Liar of Iyar.”
Remembering the past helps frame the present and anticipate the future. This is a lesson David C. Pack seems blind to and doomed to never grasp.
King Charles III was crowned this morning, causing some red faces in Wadsworth.
David C. Pack proved to his audience at the Feast of Tabernacles that every word he speaks falls to the ground and returns to him void.
Flashback Part 399 – October 15, 2022
@ 19:22…and Christ is gonna come before that man wears the crown.
Flashback Part 435 – April 15, 2023
@ 33:05 King Charles is supposta be coronated within hours. It will be the most-watched event in the history of the world, and…it’s gonna get chopped short right before he ever puts a crown on. You can’t make that up…which is the 6th of May. Which, of course, is the 15th of Iyar, and he would never be crowned.
David C. Pack has no idea what he is talking about. Believe him to your own shame.
Parts 439 and 440 this week were a challenging climb and not for the faint of heart.
Part 439 – May 2, 2023
@ 00:07 Again, Good afternoon. Gonna have messages back-to-back because a lot of the folks who are on staff are going to the Poconos singles activity.
It will be interesting to see the pictures of this event on social media. More tables of smiling people who cannot date each other due to age differences or being the wrong race. Having “too many” divorces even before baptism is also a restricting factor, but those folks are not allowed to attend.
One thing those single people have in common this weekend is how faithless they all are. They did not really believe David C. Pack. They never believed the second Passover would be fulfilled as their Pastor General taught. Even though he walked it back, he renewed it again with a solid MAYBE this week.
If Jesus Christ will return "some time" before Trumpets, why bother to start dating when there is not enough time to get married? (Well, unless you are a Headquarters minister.) And why would Church Administration schedule such a defiant event?
The answer: Nobody in RCG takes David C. Pack seriously. They just fake that they do.
The minority All-Believing Zealots are the exception. Trust me, nobody wants to date them.
The like-minded Poconos singles will be able to share their collective disbelief in the doctrines of the Pastor General. This will make an excellent conversation ice-breaker.
“So, when did you stop believing Mr. Pack?
For me, it was the Night Watch of 2019.
How about you?”
If the singles thought Dave was done sideways blaming them for forcing him to speak two days in a row, then they do not know him. During an Excuse Parade of Part 440, he brought the event up again while encapsulating a date-suggestion because date-setting is no longer his job. “Maybe” is his new security blanket.
Part 440 – May 3, 2023
@ 37:37 And I may be reading it wrong. There may be something I’m missing. But I just felt I thought about this for a long time. Do I bring this up? Raise everybody’s hopes? We all know we’re getting close. But, the last days of my voice would be yesterday and today. Rushing to get this out. There was a schedule kinda was thrown at me a little differently with this trip to the Poconos. The singles, and so forth. That's fine. But, the point is here we are, and the Series is just tapping us a hint, and then we're supposta wait a tiny, tiny micron or call it a maha. Or {I’m} he’s about to. Or {I’m} he's prepared the way. Are we looking at, you know, Christ is coming on a moed. Well, that’s a Sabbath. And it’s a full moon. And it’s the start of the second Passover. And we’re this church is twenty-four years old to the day.And the important number 390, which maybe I’ll get toif we're here on Friday, and this isn't right.
If we are here on Friday? Notice how he sets a date without setting a date. Dave has to rely on wordplay. Also, notice he still contends the second Passover is Friday to Saturday. But, if anyone believes what the Bible says (and Dr. Ranney, I included you in on this), they would agree the second Passover ENDED at sunset Friday night. It did NOT begin on the Sabbath.
Iyar 15 is a counterfeit second Passover taught by a counterfeit apostle.
“Number 390” must be a new unexplained pointless fixation. It is a recent secret he unlocked staring at the bowl of water late into the night that means something to only him and the others in the Packian Triad of Fraud that breathe too much of those fumes coming from the cauldron in the Third Floor Executive Imaginarium.
@ 38:39 …'cause the Series is 390 weeks. And I just tried to wonder, "Wow, that's a lot." Is it possible that that, coupled with the crown coming off that this is the day we’ve been waiting for? And the answer (honestly, brethren) is maybe. I’m not setting dates anymore. I’m just not doing it. It’s not the thing I sh–I’m here to do. My job is to explain what’s gonna happen.
The “sh" was Dave catching himself, almost verbally acknowledging, "It's not the thing I SHOULD be doing." He almost said it because, deep down, he knew that was true. There is a lot David C. Pack should not be doing, but he does anyway. He is not entirely unaware. His slip-up exposed that.
Part 439 – May 2, 2023
@ 00:07 Again, Good afternoon. Gonna have messages back-to-back because a lot of the folks who are on staff are going to the Poconos singles activity. So, it’d be a morgue. I was gonna go Tuesday and Thursday, but I wanna try to finish this whole thing up in two more messages.
Morgue is an adept word choice. Not only is it spot-on for the state of brethren in The Restored Church of God, but more appropriately, of those at Headquarters.
The truth has a toe tag. Critical thinking is cold on the slab. Hearts and minds have been removed, resting in a jar on the shelf. There is no warmth of life in this cadaver. And it has already begun to stink.
Hirelings have stripped the corpse of clothes and jewelry. The Pastor General uses pliers to extract gold teeth. The brethren are left as hollow, empty husks to be dumped in the dirt and left to rot.
Some bodies have gone missing. Those that choose to stay in their frigid confinement lay down with eyes closed, mouths shut, minds quiet, and motionless in the dark silence. What remains in RCG are only the remains.
Wow. This is The Restored Church of God.
As a bonus for those who would not know, the Main Hall is kept unreasonably cold during Dave's messages. The ladies wear shawls and wrap in blankets, while some men wear gloves. The African-origin members have the toughest time. After Salasi Jezhi and his charming wife leave, ask for his honest thoughts on how pleasant it is to freeze for two hours three times a week.
On a Sabbath at Headquarters, around ninety people suffer for the comfort of just one man. That is outgoing love and concern exemplified. I used to refer to it as the Meat Locker, but Dave brilliantly coined it better with “morgue.” It fits perfectly.
The Restored Church of God
A Morgue For The Truth.™
Dave rushed out two messages instead of pacing them because the Main Hall would have fewer eyes transfixed on his magnificence. Those pesky single folks desiring a warmer bed really inconvenienced him. I am surprised he did not forbid it or ridicule their lack of fearing God.
One of my trusted Consulting Former Ministers noted that Dave’s ego cannot tolerate speaking to a nearly empty room. He craves the adoration of a full audience, so waiting until many people were traveling was unacceptable. Ego trumps preparation. Every time.
Part 440 was pushed out ahead of schedule, and man, you can tell. There is a wishy-washy hesitation and confusing delivery, screaming that the content was not baked thoroughly. Dave needed more time to polish his final malarkey dump. Those singles totally boned him.
Dave must also be in desperate need of sleep because he is woefully unclear. The author of confusion is really getting his money’s worth at the Wadsworth franchise.
Part 440 – May 3, 2023
@ 19:11 Christ’s Kingdom is the 1-Year Kingdom. I wanted to just talk about that becauseit leads to a fascinating situation. I want you to turn over to Zechariah 6. I promised that we would come back to this and that we would need to come back to it, and I wanna talk about it because it looks like it’s Christ’s Kingdom. Zechariah 6. And it’s not His Kingdom.
For those only listening once, Dave was making a colossal change to the plan of God. But those watching later learn what “it” really was. Understanding Dave requires multiple replays to catch on. He was referring to the events of Zechariah 6. Not the 1-Year Kingdom at the introduction.
The guy allegedly commissioned to “make it plain” works his darnedest to prove otherwise. Keep your eyes on his pointing hands as if he were a pickpocket, or the wallet of your understanding will vanish.
@ 24:50 This cannot be His Kingdom.
That is so funny because if you listen to the eleven-minute section, it sounds like he is making a compelling case for why it IS His Kingdom.
Brethren watched him strain logic in real-time, and I got the sense he realized his perspective was faulty as the words spilled from his mouth.
@ 25:25 That’s important. When Christ comes, it says in Luke He gives {me} Elijah and the little flock all that He has. Well, He has it. So, I wanted to sort of conclude this one part.
I have reviewed this section at least five times. Christ is a king on His throne, wearing His crown. He "has" the Kingdom. If Jesus Christ has the authority to give something, it belongs to Him. It is His Kingdom. Therefore it can be called Christ's Kingdom. Since He is God, it would make His Kingdom the Kingdom of God. Right?
But not according to Dave. He repeats this is not Christ’s Kingdom but sounds more uncertain than he did at the start. He continues to prove how unsure he is by kneecapping his own argument.
@ 27:06 “Oh, but it’s not His Kingdom.” In a way, it is, and in a way it isn't. That's partly why it's called the Kingdom of Heaven and partly why it's so difficult to understand.
Throw the Kingdom of Heaven is NOT the Kingdom of God into the mix.
There are some topics Dave should not teach until he is more fully prepared. His not-thought-through teaching about the First Kingdom to Israel not being Christ’s Kingdom was not ready for primetime.
He actually proves the opposite as he goes along. Remember, he said, "It is NOT Christ's Kingdom," but admits it “partly” is. Is it Kingdom-lite, Dave?
The cracks in his convictions become evident with his tone, stumbling, mumbling, unfinished sentences, dropping parts of words, and sharp pivots. If I were a betting man, I would say that Dave will spend the majority of Part 441 undoing significant portions of Part 440. It will also give him another opportunity to throw the Poconos singles under the bus for pushing him too soon.
@ 27:18 The most technical correct way is the Kingdom of God over Israel. Or the Kingdom of the Lord Over Israel.
Well, which is it? It is absolutely NOT the Kingdom of God, even though he just called it the Kingdom of God over Israel? Wow, Dave is waffling.
As one who has closely studied Dave over the past year, I surmise this teaching will not live long. Too often on this topic, and during this Part, he ran out of gas before drawing a solid conclusion or making a definitive point. He got shouty at times, but not with crucial conclusions as is his custom.
Nope. This whole idea will be abandoned. Copy and paste this for when it does.
@ 1:28:21 So, we’ll conclude by saying there will maybe be more on Sabbath if we’re here. And maybe not, even if we’re here. I’m gonna wait and see. Good night, everyone.
The ambiguity of that statement makes it utterly pointless. That is the best way to end “The Greatest Untold Story!” Series that will soon prove to be Unending with Part 441 a guarantee.
Unclear and uncertain. It is over, but it is not over. We will be here, but we will not be here.
The Restored Church of God is a morgue for understanding and critical thinking.
“Making it plain” in a way that matters has ceased functioning. Brotherly love waxed cold long ago. Wretched teachings are bloated and oozing. A boney finger tells the story better than the lying lips guiding it. Hope is locked away in a refrigerated box to prolong the inevitable decay.
Believing the Bible has been incinerated. The truth has been contaminated and wrapped in plastic for proper disposal. The word of God has been butchered. The name of God has been dragged through the filth.
Staying in The Restored Church of God is fellowship inside a morgue.
"Well, lately it's been the ministry who has split the flock and sowed discord.
They have also stepped outside doctrine and made decisions about people's individual choices
and made them feel guilty for their own lives." (one reaction to Dave's post below)
One of the sad characteristics of many fundamentalists who claim "we are the only truth" and exclusionary sects in this country is its weaponized system of disfellowshipping and marking members who they deem as unable to fit the expectations of the sect. It is a powerful tool to keep members in line and living in a constant state of fear. In Armstrongism these actions meant an immediate loss of salvation and exclusion from the place of safety.
For many, this was a spiritually damaging event in their lives and drove them completely away from God, something the church claimed it was not meant to do. The pain it caused was not only with the person/persons involved but with family and dear friends - or at least people you thought were friends.
Sadly in the Church of God movement many pastors and church leaders took great delight in publicly shaming members. Sure they put on a great face in front of the members on how this was painful for them to do, but was necessary. Once they kicked people out, no contact was ever made with them again. If a member decided to come back they had to come back groveling on their own begging for mercy from God's right-hand man.
The other day, Dave Myers from Church of God a Worldwide Association decided to talk about how painful this was for pastors in COGWA. The crap quickly hit the fan, something he was not expecting, and as usual in the COG, immediately blamed everyone else for their response.
What really rang his bell was that people do not take too kindly to this kind of false "love" and reacted on social media about it. How dare they! How dare they tell THEIR side of the story. Something that no disfellowshiped member of the COG movement has ever been able to do. Of course, these deceived sheep are telling their story from a personal slant and most of the time completely inaccurate. They are liars as no COG minister is capable of telling a falsehood or give out inaccurate information.
Any time a pastor has to ask a person not to fellowship with the flock due to such things as doctrinal disagreement, causing division, derogatory accusations, or the like, it is a sad and heartrending time for that pastor (and many others). He hopes and prays with all his heart that the person will come to see themselves accurately and be able to change their way. His action is done out of love to spur the person to deeply examine themselves and help them to change. The mantle of shepherding in these instances is quite heavy and frankly, unpleasant. If the person does not accept this loving correction, sadly, social media provides a platform for the supposed 'offended' to tell their story widely - from their perspective - which is usually found to be quite 'slanted' and often just plain inaccurate. Good-hearted people can read these 'posts-of-the-offended' and be misled as to what actually went on. Some might think, "If their post doesn't reflect what really has happened, the pastor would defend his action by posting the truth, wouldn't he?" But consider this: I, for one, am thankful that the 'church' does not post its 'side' of the story revealing all the details as to why this painful action has had to be taken. Love and respect for the person being 'disciplined' means that the 'church' would not reveal their personal problems or lay out all the ugly details that led to this necessary action. We all know that the scripture teaches "Hatred stirs up strife, But love covers all sins" (Proverbs 10:12) and "He who covers a transgression seeks love, But he who repeats a matter separates friends" (Proverbs 17:9). So you will not read the pastor's 'rebuttal' because he loves the person and does not wish to 'air their dirty laundry.' So, a pastor does not post on social media, but rather, prays that the 'offended' comes to his senses and is able to repent. I hope this small window into the shepherd's mantle of responsibility is helpful.
Dave's response to people's responses:
David J. Myers May 4 at 10:52 AM
As if often the case with social media, it can easily devolve into squabbles between people who use the platform to proclaim their particular opinions, complaints, and troubles. Since this has become the case with my most recent post, I have decided to delete it and try to follow the admonition found in 1 Timothy 1:3-7. Warm regards