Crackpot Prophet On How To Claim You Are Elijah And One Of The Two Witless Witnesses Without Actually Saying You Are

 

The stormy weather is moving out of California as gloomy weather weather turns into sunshine and warmth. The stormy weather seems to have had an impact on the mental fragility of our highly favorite self-appointed prophet who resides in the Arroyo Grande/Grover Beach area of the Central Coast. Ever since our favorite self-appointed prophet discovered that God had preordained his end time coming as the best Church of God leader in human history, the Great Bwana to Africa and the occasional Cuacaisan has been searching long and hard through Scripture to determine how it speaks about his awesomeness and how we should all be trembling at the mere sight of him. As he is in the second decade of his rebellion against Rod Meredith and the Living Church of God, this mighty prophet has deemed it necessary to take on more and more biblical mantles to prove how important he is in his own mind.

Today the Great One is talking about Elijah and the Two witless Witnesses and how he carries the heavy burden of those mantles never actually claiming he does so in a forthright manner. He expects people to be too stupid to see through his charade.

The Great Bwana Mzungu writes criticizing Churches of God, UK, and Church of God Outreach Ministries for their Elijah/prophecy stance. Remember, this is the Great Bwana who is NEVER wrong about anything while everyone else out there in COGland are poor deceived schmucks.

Although people, like the discredited Ron Weinland and David Pack have claimed to be ‘Elijah,’ neither of them are. 

 

Yet, the Bible does show that there will be an ‘Elijah’ who is alive before Jesus returns and that it is likely that he will be one of the two witnesses. And as Jesus is likely to return within the next couple of decades, it is reasonable to consider that he must be alive today.

So, Elijah is alive today channeling himself in a Church of God man. The complete arrogance and idiocy of this belief is shocking.

As we inch closer and closer to these perilous end times there has to be some indication of just who this man might be. No one outside Church of Godland is smart enough or converted enough to carry on this role. 

So who might this man be? One guess as to who this is being described below:

Could he be one who has restored information on church history, doctrine, prophecy, and the reason that God created anything? Could he be one reaching people around the world with the Gospel of the Kingdom of God in over 1,000 different languages? Or has God not chosen to have him do much at this stage?

Any guesses? This is who it is NOT talking about:

Was it Herbert W. Armstrong?
No.

BUT...a BIG BUT, Herb thought he might be and because he thought he might be this also gives the end-time prophet justification for thinking that he is Elijah and one of the two witless witnesses:

Did Herbert W. Armstrong ever think he might be Elijah? 

 

Most definitely. 

 

The late evangelist Raymond McNair admitted:

However, on occasion, Mr. Armstrong may have expressed some doubt in regard to his calling and ministry, concerning himself being the end-time “Elijah,” (McNair, Raymond. Was Mr. Armstrong Who He Said He Was? Ad in Connection’s section of The Journal, June 30, 2004).
Yes, HWA expressed some doubt–not simply may have. Herbert W. Armstrong admitted to Aaron Dean, his long-time personal aide (and Aaron Dean told me this personally on several occasions for over the past two+ decades) that he might not have understood the biblical passages on the Elijah correctly before he died, and that God could raise someone else up to fulfill the Elijah role. Furthermore, HWA specifically expressed doubt to the late evangelist Dibar Apartian (and who also told me). Dibar Apartian did not believe that HWA was the Elijah when we discussed this several times and he agreed with me about this.

Using Raymond McNair and Dibar Apartian as sources of truth is ludicrous. These are two of the worst false teachers in the church.

Our crackpot prophet continues:

Those with a WCG background might find the following quote from Herbert W. Armstrong of some assistance here as he wrote:

Those called into the Church were called not merely for salvation and eternal life, but to learn the way of God’s government and develop the divine character during this mortal life in the Church age …   

 

Also Malachi 4:5-6 pictures the Elijah to come at the very end of the Church age (Mystery of the Ages. 1985, pp. 201, 349). 

 

And when was the “Church age” supposed to end according to Herbert Armstrong’s old church? Notice:

God has set before us an open door and no MAN can shut it. God can shut it, and He will when the work is finished and the Philadelphia Church goes to a place of safety. …The Laodicean Church is not going to be worthy to escape to a place of safety. When it is too late, they will find that the Church of Philadelphia has gone to safety (What Is the “LAODICEAN CHURCH”? Good News August 1959 Vol. VIII, Number 8). 

 

Now since the Church age has not ended, and the Day of the Lord has not yet come, then it follows that Elijah was to come on the scene publicly after this was written.

The mere fact that the Great Bwana has to quote Mystery of the Ages nonsense proves right off the bat he does not know what's is talking about. Who in the right mind looks at the MOA as accurate and the word of God? But, this does not stop the Great Bwana from setting himself up as the Elijah to come:

Now since the Church age has not ended, and the Day of the Lord has not yet come, then it follows that Elijah was to come on the scene publicly after this was written.
HWA, himself, wrote:

Jesus shall come, SOON NOW, to RESTORE ALL THINGS! He did NOT restore all things when he first came. John the Baptist did not “restore all things.” But the one who was to “restore all things” just before the “day of the Lord” and preparing the way for Christ’s second coming, was YET to come, in the future, as Jesus said. Now what are the “all things” to be RESTORED? “Restitution” means restore to a former state or condition (Armstrong HW. Brethren & Co-Worker Letter, August 24, 1982). 

 

Note that HWA states ONE (Elijah) comes just before the day of the Lord—an event that still has not occurred, hence some additional restoration beyond what HWA did is needed–and this has been happening in the Continuing Church of God. CCOG has restored more than any COG in the 21st century and under the human leadership of Bob Thiel it continues to do so. In time, God will make the final Elijah clear to all willing to see (this is NOT saying that he MUST be Bob Thiel–but we believe it will be a leader in CCOG).

I can state here and now with 100% confidence that this so-called Elijah will NEVER be Bob Thie, Steve Dupris, or any other self-appointed man from the improperly named "continuing" Church of God. That is a fact that cannot Bwana Bob can't be refuted. 

The delusional one continues:

Furthermore, it should be noted that a careful reading of another one of HWA’s articles supports the idea that the Philadelphia era will need to have something else be restored. HWA wrote:

This very WORK OF GOD for our day is foretold in the prophecy of Revelation 3:7-13. But there it is revealed that we, today, are a people of but little strength – little power (verse 8)! – within ourselves though we have faithfully KEPT GOD’S WORD! The impact of this WORK OF GOD today is going out only through the power of God! Are you having your part in this very WORK OF GOD? But – let’s face it! – WE DO NOT HAVE WITHIN OURSELVES, AS GOD’S INSTRUMENTS FOR HIS WORK TODAY, ANYWHERE NEAR THE POWER OF GOD THAT ACTIVATED THAT ORIGINAL FIRST-CENTURY CHURCH! For that very reason, the living Christ says (verse 8), He has opened to us the gigantic door of MASS COMMUNICATION! The magnified power of the microphone and the printing press. Yet that is only physical, mechanical power! The REAL POWER that makes God’s Work vital and alive is the Holy Spirit of God! (Armstrong HW. Christians Have Lost Their POWER! Plain Truth, Jun 1958). 

 

The Greek word translated as strength, dunamis, which HWA refers to as power, is the same Greek word that is normally translated as ‘miracle’ or ‘miracles’. Thus, Revelation 3:8 shows that the Philadelphia Church will have some type of miracles, and although I agree with HWA’s position that the initial power/miracle had to do with electronic media, I also agree with him that the old WCG did not have, “ANYWHERE NEAR THE POWER OF GOD THAT ACTIVATED THAT ORIGINAL FIRST-CENTURY CHURCH.” Thus, HWA acknowledged, howbeit indirectly, that the power of God had not been fully restored to his WCG. And it should be noted that dreams and gifts of prophecy were given to the first-century church (Acts 2:17-18) and thus, according to his own writing, there should be these type of occurrences at the end. One group in the 21st century has that (see Dreams, the Bible, the Radio Church of God, and the ContinuingChurch of God and How To Determine If Someone is a True Prophet of God). (Hyperlinks deliberatly removed)

There you have it, once again, there is NO ONE in the entire Church of God movement who can even be considered as Elijah since every single Church of God is a false church. 

So who does this leave for us to look forward to?

The Great Bwana himself! 

The false prophet and certified liar ends with this:

Sadly, just as many would not hear Elijah’s nor John the Baptist’s messages, relatively few will pay much attention to the end time Elijah as well.

That is not a surprise as most Christians in the end times were to be Laodicean, and Jesus warned the Laodiceans since they would not ‘get with the program,’ that they would be punished (Revelation 3:14-18).

Of course, if you are willing to believe the truth and do what the Bible teaches, that does not have to include you.

Anyone who believes the truth of the truth of the Bible and is a follower of Jesus knows for a FACT that Bob Thiel is NOT Elijah. The improperly named "continuing" Church of God is not a true church, empathically is NOT practicing first-century Christianity, and has no truth worthwhile for humanity to hear. That is a fact. An irrefutable fact! 

The Elijah’s restoring of “all things” means that he is to be restoring information that the true Church of God once understood, but later must have lost or misunderstood. 

 

The problem is that just as many would not hear Elijah’s or John the Baptist’s messages, relatively few will pay much attention to the end time Elijah as well.

This is a bald-faced lie. None of this is true and most certainly Bob Thiel is not and never will be some "Elijah" to come. Bob has been lying to the church since he started his cult in a fit of rebellion in 2012.

Steer clear of this liar and his sick cult!

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Disruptor Dave - "We’re gonna blow some things up..."

 

Disruptor Dave

 

Once David C. Pack hooks on to a goofy analogy or catchphrase, he rubs it in everyone’s face. Much like a toddler seeing another kid play with a different toy, the Pastor General of The Restored Church of God grows bored with his own ideas rather quickly, and we need never suffer hearing them again.

 

Some in The Restored Church of God might remember how “prophecy is like pulling wire from a wall” when the Worldwide Church of God’s Revelation “Big T” was disavowed. These brethren would have been present when the ever-changing Kingdom W’s were on the projector screen for weeks at a time. Boy, those were long days in Media Production Services.

 

Since then, the Prophecy Wizards sequestered in the Third Floor Executive Imaginarium must be very impressed by their own talents for conjuring “a jolt,” “super metric,” “the Golden Document,” “trial and error,” “hard reality demanding really hard thinking,” “telling, not foretelling,” “stone-cold math,” “the Trumpets solar system,” “the Mount Everest firewall,” “a Tale of Three Decembers,” “a Tale of Four Pictures,” “a Story of 13s,” “a Tale of 14 months,” “cascade learning,” and my personal favorite, “the move move a rock analogy um.”

 

During “The Greatest Unending Story! (Part 490)” on January 13, 2024, David C. Pack attempted to soften the edges of embarrassment for un-teaching what he had just taught by introducing a concept that points the finger at the brethren if they try to resist it.

 

God has a sense of humor and is a fan of irony in 3…2…1…

 

Part 490 – January 13, 2024

@ 00:36 Well, I'm gonna be a disruptor today, and…

 

In this perfect moment, David C. Pack takes a drink of water mid-sentence. I laughed out loud. He disrupted his own introductory statement, announcing he was a disruptor.

 

Wow. The disruptor disrupted himself. Classic.

David C. Pack is a man with a fragmented mind, speaking fragmented words and conducting fragmented actions.

 

@ 00:44 …I think you’ll find in the in the most wonderful way. But, absolutely a disruptor.

 

By being a disruptor, Dave means he will radically change the brethren's thinking during Part 490. Thinking that he imposed upon them. He is disrupting ideas they would not even have if he had not rammed it down their throats.

 

@ 00:51 We’re gonna blow some things up. Put ‘em back together and see a picture that is almost infinitely better than what you now believe between now and the time we break for dinner.

 

Being a disruptor is just a fancy way of retreading bald tires while the car is still moving.

 

 

David C. Pack acts like a greasy politician when faced with something uncomfortable. He simply ignores it. The Mystery of God was finished last week, and the Series was finally over. Yet, the brethren came to the Winter Social just in time to watch their human idol dodge all that.

 

@ 04:22 Then, I began to think of some things. Go on over to Psalm 89. Talking about Elijah. You know, using his name so we know who the subject is here.

 

David C. Pack lies as easily as sipping a cup of coffee. It is casual and thoughtless. Lying is such an embedded part of his character foundation now he is not even aware when he does it.

 

@ 04:47 Psalm 89 verse 29. Speaking of this David. “His seed also will I make to endure forever and his throne as the days of heaven.”

 

Elijah is not mentioned in Psalm 89. Dave is convinced he is the David God talks to in Psalm 89. His penchant for arrogant presumption keeps him in ignorance.

 

The brethren of The Restored Church of God assemble on the Sabbath to hear David C. Pack preach about himself. He is calculated enough to avoid first-person pronouns to not alarm anyone.

 

@ 07:53 So, somebody is on that throne in Psalm 89, continuing to witness (apparently) forever. It's a subtle point, but when you couple it with Revelation 20 and Genesis 8, it’s crucial. Not to be missed.

 

Disruptor Dave invited Jesus Christ off of David’s throne so he could sit there forever instead. David C. Pack becomes the Vicar of Christ in incremental steps. The more divine knowledge is revealed, the more Christ-like David C. Pack becomes.

 

He will only worsen as the Series creeps toward Part 500 and beyond.

 

@ 46:58 In Isaiah 55, there’s this man named David. If your first name was David, [chuckles] you’d be concerned about what this means. He's called a Witness Commander. He's a leader, and he's a commander, and he's in charge, but he's a witness commander, and he's in glory…

 

If any Davids in The Restored Church of God wrote Headquarters thinking this could be them, they would be immediately disfellowshipped and placed beside me on the Kook List.

 

Yet, David C. Pack is above reproach.

 

 

Disruptor Dave realized that the devil and his demons will be resurrected after being put to death.

 

@ 08:49 The church long believed that the devil continues to live forever despite all the verses we know. Yet, we know he’s put to death. So, this is gonna invite the question: Is he put to death forever? Or if you can continue to add members of the Family of God forever, don’t you need the devil forever?

 

So far, Dave covered that, as Elijah, he would sit on David's throne forever. The Family of God grows forever. The devil is killed but resurrected to live forever. This is how summed that up:

 

@ 10:25 I just thought I’d improve your dinner tonight with my introduction. I told ya I was gonna disrupt you. Your thinking, and I I I know I have. But I said it would be in a wonderful way. Well, we’re nowhere near wonderful things.

 

David C. Pack unintentionally spoke the absolute truth.

 

The Restored Church of God

We’re nowhere near wonderful things.™

 

What the brethren of The Restored Church of God believe is your fault, Dave. Not theirs. Being a disruptor is a thinly-veiled repackaging of reimagining your own fraudulent ideas.

 

Dave sees himself as a benevolent theological hero rescuing the innocently mistaken brethren from their uneducated thinking. As a disruptor, he shakes them out of their malarkey daze so they can see the pure light of truth raining down like gold from heaven.

 

Until it is disrupted next week.

 

@ 11:17 So, could the Acceptable Year that we're waiting for still involve only a year? Not fifteen months, but only a year?

 

Disruptor Dave blew up the fifteen-months-is-a-year idea that he invented.

 

@ 47:31 But, if if you were [chuckles] if you were where we were a week ago, you gotta fifteen-month kingdom, then you hafta have us controlling the whole fifteen months till the seven years. 

 

All brethren must outwardly believe everything that falls from David C. Pack’s lips or face brethren-snitched, hireling-enforced consequences. Of course, they had to accept what he said a week ago.

 

David C. Pack proves people who believe him to be fools week after week after week. Like dogs returning to vomit, they lap up whatever the man says.

 

 

@ 20:52 Midst of the years. It we it very difficult because every year since the Garden has been the same. It’s Passover to Passover.

 

Last week, Disruptor Dave failed proving Abib 15 began years since Creation. The moon was created on Day 4, not Day 1. God told Moses when a year began.

 

Dave willfully ignores Bible verses and simple math when they refute his presumptive conclusions. Only he is allowed to do that, brethren. Despite heaping up fraudulent understanding, David C. Pack will continue this narrative until it no longer suits him.

 

@ 50:59 …every year will start at Passover. That’s why God had to (over these recent weeks) get me to see that.

 

There is no fear before his eyes. David C. Pack credits God with his ever-changing, corrupted ideas declared immovable one week and disrupted the next. The man preaches in God’s name, swears falsely, and curses himself with the penalty of death.

 

It is terrifying to consider what shall befall David C. Pack when God reaches the end of His patience.

 

@ 27:49 So, now, more real disruption. Okay? I said I was gonna be a disruptor. But, so far, so good. But now, I’m gonna bring some some really serious disruption.

 

Yawn. Skip. Whatever.

 

@ 1:09:14 I hope I’m disrupting your thinking (again) in the in the most wonderful, marvelous, happy possible way.

 

He is disrupting THEIR thinking? No. He disrupted his own thinking and was forced to repackage his doctrinal moonwalking. This is just another amateur magic trick. A deceitful gimmick. A cheap illusion. This is more of David C. Pack’s biblical fraud masked by a cutesy label.

 

 

@ 45:26 But, I worry about these kinds of things. You should, too. Because you love truth. That’s why you’re here. That’s why we’ve endured all that we have to be here.

 

If you love the truth, you cannot attend The Restored Church of God.

 

If you love the truth, you cannot be a "minister" in The Restored Church of God.

 

If you love the truth, you cannot continue to pay David C. Pack to lie to you.

 

If you love the truth, you cannot be in the presence of a false apostle, false teacher, false prophet, blaspheming liar, hypocrite, and false christ.

 

If the brethren loved the truth, believed their Bibles, and held their “ministers” accountable, they would be the real disruptors of The Restored Church of God.

Marc Cebrian

See: Disruptor Dave