Wednesday, July 2, 2025

Belief and Salvation in Armstrongism

 

The Relationship between Truth and Belief (Fair Use)


Belief and Salvation in Armstrongism

An Example of the Autocratic Model of Belief Management

By Scout

"In essentials, unity; in non-essentials, liberty; in all things, charity."

– A common view of belief in mainstream Christianity

 

There are some beliefs that I hold that are not held by the denomination I belong to. One of my personal beliefs has scriptural support in the New Testament and was common among the Patristics but has fallen into obscurity in modern day Christianity. Further, there are some things in Christian belief that I hold without reserve. Then there are others where I permit myself some reserve. While I subscribe to the idea of the Eternal Generation of the Son because it effectively reflects Biblical data, I have reservations about it because it is so arcane, therefore, I am not going to fall on my sword over it.

If you are an Armstrongist, you will be uneasy with what I have written in the paragraph above. Because in your world there is a sharply different model of belief. Your belief model does not allow, for instance, “personal beliefs” as I mentioned. You do not believe in having reservations about some points in Armstrongist theology. If you do have points of dissension, you are certainly not going to socialize them. Your beliefs are, in effect, the totality of the little booklet theology written by Herbert W. Armstrong (HWA). And if you stray into dissension unwittingly because you do not understand an Armstrongist belief precisely, you will always capitulate to little booklet theology when questioned. This essay is about how belief is articulated with salvation in Armstrongism and a comparison with Christianity. When I refer to Armstrongism, I am referring to classical, pre-1995 Armstrongism.

The Armstrongist Model of Belief

HWA styled himself as an Apostle who set the doctrine in the Armstrongist church (and hence all of “Christianity” from his viewpoint) and was the defender of “the faith.” His writing was thought by his followers to be inspired by God and God does not make mistakes. This was supported by a putative church history in which “the truth” was lost to apostasy in the early centuries of the church and was again revealed to HWA eighteen and a half centuries later. And the Bible is a coded book and only HWA can decode it. And if you did not agree with HWA’s declared theology, you were in a state of rebellion against God himself. In this model of belief, HWA spoke Ex Cathedra with infallibility. This is reconstructed from memory reaching back to the Twentieth Century. I did not do a literature search, but I would be surprised if this recollection were not accurate.

The Case of Belief in “Soul Sleep”

A case in point. Do you really need to believe in “soul sleep,” an old Adventist viewpoint, in order to receive salvation? Christianity does not have heartburn over soul sleep. Roger Olson, a theologian at Baylor University, does not regard soul sleep even as a heresy. He feels it is really just an opinion. My guess is that if you openly state that you do not believe in soul sleep in an Armstrongist denomination, you will eventually be disfellowshipped. First, you will be counseled and if you remain recalcitrant you will be cast out as a rebel against the government of God. An issue of belief is transformed into an issue of governance. This is because you do not have the liberty under denominational governance to believe anything outside the boundaries of little booklet theology.

In truth, I don’t know how thoroughly these boundaries have been tested. Maybe you could believe that Zebulon is really only part of Holland but not all of it. Maybe nobody would care about that. But I doubt that you could decide not to unleaven your house one year and yet remain a member in good standing. Such issues of belief might even pivot on the autocratic proclivities of your local Armstrongist minister more than anything else. Maybe he would insist on your fealty to the body of church belief exactly as it is written up in the little booklets. No quarter given. This approach might even be couched as “bound in heaven.”

I believe soul sleep is a non-essential. However, I don’t believe that Armstrongist theology sorts beliefs into essential and non-essential categories. When I was an Armstrongist, I was always rigorous about belief in little booklet theology. So, I did not have the occasion to collect much empirical evidence on how some assertion of personal belief might be handled by the Armstrongist ministry. I had no personal beliefs. I don’t now have a big commitment to the intermediate state as opposed to soul sleep. If I arrived in the next life and someone told me that soul sleep was actually true, I would not go so far as to yawn but it would not disturb my equanimity. It is non-essential to salvation.

The Case for Viewpoint

The Bible implicitly permits viewpoint by not being exhaustive on every subject. For instance, consider the subject of what happens to a person immediately after death. There is an exegesis that points to soul sleep. And there is also an exegesis for the intermediate state. The Biblical authors do not treat this topic exhaustively so there is naturally divergence in viewpoint among readers. I happen to believe that the intermediate state belief has more supportive data in scripture. Yet, the fact is, we do not find incontrovertible clarity in scripture on the topic of soul sleep.

I do believe there are principles of Christianity that are incontrovertible. Christianity is, after all, a thing. It has boundaries within which core essentials reside. You can get so far away from the core, like the Circumcision Party did, that Paul says that Christ no longer has an effect for you and you are fallen from grace (Galatians 5:4). I also believe that we are intended to grow in knowledge as the Holy Spirit provides (John 14:26, 2 Peter 3:18). Only brothers that are a little naïve would assert that we know pretty much all that there is to know about God and his Way – that knowledge is no static.

Some might say that no understanding can happen outside the leadership of the church. But if the leadership of the church says that Pentecost is on Monday, does that make it so? And what is the status of those people in the pews who recognized it as being on Sunday before the pulpit recognized it was on Sunday? Belief may not correspond to truth as the graphic at the top shows. Is it possible in this system that someone could have been disfellowshipped for keeping Pentecost on the right day? I believe the suppression of viewpoint by church leadership is not an issue of correct belief but of denominational discipline. It is an issue of governance. If the church preaches error, you as a follower must believe error until the church reforms its position, if ever.

The Upshot

Armstrongism brooks no disagreement on theology. Since the Bible is not exhaustive on every topic and translating ancient language is somewhat elastic because modern word definitions may be just consensus definitions, a better approach would be to recognize the division between essential and non-essential beliefs. And the autocratic approach to belief does not play well with salvation. It burdens salvation with conditions that could be classed as denominational interpretations. This topic is non-trivial. I cannot do it justice in a few words. I am interested in what others think.

Monday, June 30, 2025

Philadelphia Church of God Sure Knows How To Waste Tithe Money On Flurry's Grandkids


The Philadelphia Church of God certainly knows how to spend members' tithe money on extravagant, seemingly unnecessary purchases. There was no justification for buying a Gulfstream jet, except that Flurry wanted to avoid commercial flights and the general public. The jet has never been used to meet world leaders or spread any gospel message. Instead, it serves as a personal playground for Lil’ Stevie, his children, and other PCG elites, ferrying them across the country for Irish dance competitions and stage shows featuring Judd Flurry.
Additionally, hundreds of thousands of dollars have been spent on new dance studios, hiring British and Irish Celtic dance instructors, staging performances, and traveling nationwide and internationally—none of which has anything to do with delivering a gospel message.



 


Also see:



PCG Members Expected To Send In Money To Fund $80,000.00 Jet Rides For Lil'Stevie And The Grandkids

Gerald Flurry Tells Members To Be Ready To Be Deported While He Prepares To Buy A New 11 Million Dollar Jet

PCG: As Income Plummets, Flurry Declares Fast To Force His "god" Into Making PCG Members Give More Money

Gerald Flurry Follows in HWA's Steps and Buys Gulfstream G450 Jet

PCG: God gave us our new jet

PCG: Flurry Elite Travel In Style In Corporate Jet On Backs Of Tithing Members

Gerald Flurry: Elite Grandson, Grant Turgeon Trained To Be Steward To The BIG BOSS On New PCG Jet

Follow Gerald Flurry As He Flies Around The World Wasting PCG Members Tithe Money

New King of the Church of God Travels To England

PCG Turns Off Tracking On Flurry Family's Private Jet But Still Can't Stop People From Tracking Them

Lamborghini's, Gulfstream Jets, Gold, and Silver...We Deserve The Best!



Are you going to be on Aaron Dean's pit crew when he pulls in to restart the church and win the race?

 


Is Aaron Dean anticipating a divine revelation? 

Might he break away from the United Church of God, align with Samuel Kitchen, and revive the Worldwide Church of God for a final effort? 

Could tens of thousands of COG members from various splinter groups abandon their current affiliations to follow Aaron? 

Will the true faith be reestablished? 

Could Herbert be miraculously brought back to life to serve as one of the two witnesses in Jerusalem? 

Might Dean be the second witness? 

Or could it be Bob Thiel? Dave Pack? 

After all, this is the Church of God, where speculation drives its momentum.

The Worldwide Church of God is NOT my church. It wasn’t even the church of Herbert W Armstrong. It is the Church of God, headed by Jesus Christ, and organized by God from Heaven!
The apostle simply bound and loosened on earth what was already bound and loosened in Heaven.
When corrected was needed, Mr Armstrong ran and cried out to his father in Heaven, crying ABBA Father! He moved Heaven and earth to repent and get things on the right track with God.
That’s His real Legacy!
When sin was found out, he ran towards God!
In the Church of the Living God, Mr Armstrong was inspired to establish an Advisory Council of Elders. He appointed men to that council. And to that council he delegated authority and powers, so they could take FULL CHARGE of the work, its assets, and activities.
That’s beyond us brethren, we had no say in what Christ led Mr Armstrong to do.
Now the only man left from that Advisory Council of Elders, is Mr Aaron Dean.
Mr Armstrong already revealed it. He was shown by Jesus Christ who needed to be on that council. Judas was given to Christ. So was other judas-types given the apostle. What they were strong in, Christ used. But they were overcome by their weaknesses.
This was already revealed. I am not revealing anything new. This stuff happened prior to my birth!
Now recently I have been highlighting it.
Since 2010, I have been raising awareness of what belongs to God belongs to God!
Now I had been going to these church groups, to see if they are where Christ is working. These groups are not where Jesus Christ is working!
This analogy sums it up. Go and walk outside of your home. Look at it from the outside. You are NOT inside while you are outside. A step from the inside to the outside is step AWAY from the inside!
It is a separation.
Every group, and it does not matter how well intentioned people are, are OUTSIDE of the spiritual Temple called the Worldwide Church of God. They are a separated group.
Now, I am raising awareness of the role and function of Mr Aaron Dean, within the Worldwide Church of God, because this is REVEALED ALREADY BY GOD through His apostle!
Mr Aaron Dean simply admitted to it, like Jonah on the boat. So not only do we have the revelation of Jesus Christ putting Mr Aaron Dean in that Advisory Council of Elders; but we also have a second testimony and witness from Mr Aaron Dean admitting he is!
I’m only declaring this to be of God! I’m highlighting it, and seeking to edify the Worldwide Church of God and strengthen this ministerial assignment to Mr Aaron Dean!
Have you ever watched a nascar race?
Did you ever see a pit crew assist another racer from another team? No, they wait until the man who is on THEIR TEAM comes around, and they assist that man!
Now, that man who was duly appointed to this team, is coming back around, and I want to be found “so doing” and assist the man God put into position! No man did that. Mr Armstrong had it revealed to him by Jesus Christ!
But I can’t assist him as God wants to me to assist him, by leaving this team and joining with another team! That sure is confusing!
Imagine any sport or combat situation!
But people are asking why am I waiting for this man, who is engaged with another church, to return to the Worldwide Church of God?
When God reveals something, it shouldn’t be taken lightly. I am simply highlighting what is already revealed.
Mr Dean has said he waiting for God to reveal something for him, and he has said he will do it. God will hold him to his word.
Remember Zechariah 3, is a reminder to the Joshua figure, of his ministerial and temple duties. He seemingly appears to be unfit for the job, but God is reinstalling the man in his job!
The Worldwide Church of God is founded on the old testament prophets and the New Testament apostles.
Mr Armstrong needed to be established as an apostle, as part of our foundation!
Christ is the cornerstone!
I believe the Bible. And I stand with the servant of the Living God, who was used by Jesus Christ to duly appoint Aaron Dean to the office and role and function, and rank, that he now ALONE HAS! There is no denying it! No running away! No hiding!
I may be called a madman. But does believing God and God’s Word, make me a mad man? Or make me a smart man? I may be stupid, but I may be smart enough to believe God. Samuel Kitchen