Living Church of God: We Deserve To Have Your Estate Instead Of Your Heretic Relatives

From a reader here:

Your post regarding the COG minister's demanding of money reminded me of this from the Jan-Feb Living Church News article written by Rod the Charlottain:

"Brethren, I want to strongly encourage all of you to genuinely go “all out” in backing the very Work Christ is doing through us on this earth today! I know that most of you are doing this. But many do “let down”—especially after the Feast when the income for God’s Work often drops for a number of weeks. But above and beyond that, I not long ago received a letter from one of our fine ministers who has in recent times had the experience of several older people dying in his congregational areas.

It's guilt trip time.  Sure some may be slacking in tithing, but many are struggling to make ends meet.  When they read stuff like this it is an automatic guilt trip laid upon them.  What they are telling the members is this: “It's YOUR fault that the income is down. “ “It is up to YOU to change it.”

This very sincere and serving minister—not a “money grubber”—wrote me: “Of them all, two were moderately wealthy. Neither looked or acted wealthy but they were farmers and left quite an inheritance. One left $300,000 and a nice home, the other left 300 acres with quite a bit of nice river frontage. At $1,500 per acre that would be $450,000. At $2,000 per acre that would be $600,000. This is why I mention it. The one man said strongly the one thing he wanted to avoid was having his stepchildren, who seemed to hate him, inherit. He left no will, so of course the stepchildren got it all. Dr. Meredith, I feel we are missing a special opportunity by not bringing the possibility of leaving all or part of their inheritance to the attention of the Church.”

If God says his blessings are showered upon the "just" and the "unjust," why would a minister be worried about step children receiving an inheritance?   It’s none of the ministers business whether or not someone inherits property.

Brethren, following through on this suggestion from this fine minister, I would like to take the opportunity now to encourage many of you who are growing older to think about giving a good part or all of your estate to the Work of the living God. Many of you, no doubt, would like to do this but “simply have not gotten around to it.” Many want to do it, as this one man said—but simply put off making out a will so that your intentions will be carried out when you die. God’s word encourages responsibility and wise estate planning. “A good man leaves an inheritance to his children’s children, but the wealth of the sinner is stored up for the righteous” (Proverbs 13:11). Pray that God will give you wisdom in planning for how your assets may be helpful to your children— and to God’s Church—after you die. And it is important that you think about this, because if you just “do nothing” your estate may go to people who will not appreciate what you are leaving behind, or it may even go to the state and be part of the budget of some government treasurer to use as he desires!

The church is just as ungrateful for estate inheritances as the ungrateful relatives may be.  In the past estates that were given to the church were used to remodel evangelists homes.    Diamonds, jewelry and other gifts were regularly taken by certain department heads and kept as their own or sold off and pocketed the money themselves.  Believe it or not they actually bragged about this. 

As the end of this age approaches, each one of us needs to focus on the profound statement Jesus Christ our Savior made in the Sermon on the Mount, “Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal; but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also” (Matthew 6:19–21).

This is laughable coming from Rod Meredith.  This is the man who used third tithe money to remodel his million dollar home on Waverly Drive decades ago.  This is the man who had valuable works of art and treasures of the church in his office.   It is also laughable considering how the Church of God has always been obsessed with laying up treasures.  Look at the hundreds of millions of dollars in fine art, gold, silver, crystal, that the Church bought to furnish homes and offices with.  It was and always has been about MORE.  More offices, more TV stations, more buildings, more students, more members, more magazines, more cars, more jets, ad naseum........

If we truly have our “hearts” in God’s Work, we will obviously want to give generously! This should not be a mystery to any of us. So we should each think about how we can best do this. A wonderful example as a “hero of the faith” was Raymond Jorgensen, the Iowa farmer who willed his entire farm with the buildings and equipment and everything to God’s Work enabling us to move to our new Headquarters in North Carolina! Some of you remember his wonderful example. By giving that entire property—which was valued at nearly a million dollars—he certainly indicated to our Father in heaven exactly where he stood! His wonderful gift will never be forgotten by me, nor by many of us who are profoundly thankful that God put this action into his mind and heart.

Again this translates for those who cannot give a lot that it is their fault they are lacking in money.  If they would only step out in faith and write that big check then God will bless them doubly for it.  In other words, they are lacking in faith.   In faith you can give your entire estate to the church and write off any relatives.

Obviously, those of us who can help the Work in this way will certainly be honoring God and a genuine reward will be given us from the God who gives all of us life and breath. He will never forget what you are trying to do in leaving Him—through His Work—much or all of what you have accumulated during this short human life time. You know your own personal family situation, and you know your own heart. So, you know what is appropriate in your circumstances.

Those who give more to the church will be given more by God later on.  Maybe you will be ruler over two cities instead of one.  Or, God of two planets instead of one.  God will doubly bless you for being so generous.  Apparently God is really hard up that he needs you to leave estates to him.

Please think about it and pray about it—and, if you wish to do this—take action before it is too late. Even now, I hear from time to time about brethren who left the Worldwide Church of God many years ago, but failed to update their wills, and when they died their families were shocked to see bequests go to an apostate group from which they had departed years ago. So, if necessary, be sure to update your will. If you need help in this, or in other aspects of planning your bequest to the Church, I urge you to contact our Legal Affairs Department at Headquarters. For contact information, please note the box at the end of this article." [end of article quotation]

Brethren!  Please make sure that the Living Church of God is in your will and NOT an APOSTATE Church of God!  Don’t give your estate to Gerald Flurry or Dave Pack!  

The reader from here continues with this:

It reminded me of the following two items from history:

1) From Controlling the Human Spirit: The Inquisition and Slavery:

"Orthodox Christians defended slavery as part of the divinely ordained hierarchical order. Passages in the Bible support the institution of slavery:

    Both the bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids. Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession. And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever. [Leviticus 25:44-46]"

2) from the book A SHORT HISTORY OF THE INQUISITION by  By Kessinger Publishing pp. 230-231:

“’After the death of a heretic they (the inquisitors) can confiscate the property he held, depriving his heirs of it, although his condemnation may have been prior to his decease.’ That is, when a man was dead the Inquisition could denounce and condemn him, attaint his children, and confiscate the property they had inherited. ‘And though it be an incontrovertible rule in civil law that with death ends all criminal action, that law is not held valid in causes of heresy, it being so serious a crime; and thus proceeding may be carried on against heretics after they are dead, declaring them as such, to confiscate their property (ad finem confiscandi), and taking it from its owners although it may have passed through many hands, applying it for the benefit of the Holy Office.’ Did any system ever furnish such facility for the work of sacerdotal (priestly) thieves?”

Edifice Complex and Armstrongism

I am sure by now you have noticed how the leaders of various splinter groups of the Churches of God have built monuments to the glory of their vanity.  First there was Herbert Armstrong with his Ambassador Auditorium.  11 million dollars worth of tithe and offering money for a building filled with gold, rare onyx, expensive marble, exotic woods and fine crystal.  Hundreds of millions of dollars were spent to support a concert series that never made money but impressed people.

When construction began on the auditorium the Church was one year away from fleeing to Petra.  Construction began in 1971 and the date we were going to Petra was in 1972.  Countless letters leading up to 1972 begged for as much money as possible to finish the work.  Then a building campaign kicked into gear to pay for HWA's monument.  Yet, we were supposed to be fleeing because WWIII was about to be unleashed.

Then there is Gerald Flurry.  A little man who's ego needs to be stroked so much that he too had to build his own edifice.  Flurry can't do anything without imitating Herbert Armstrong. I honestly don't think he has an original thought in his head. Even his foundational document legitimizing his church was copied from Jules Devries. He copies booklets, uses the same names predominate in Armstrongism, started his own college, made an ass of himself kneeling in front of a dirty old rock he dug up in Oregon that supposedly HWA prayed at, and then had to build his own auditorium.  His campus has become a whore house dedicated to all things Herbert Armstrong.

All of this too was built with tithe money and offerings of poor members who were being prepared to flee to Petra.  The end was near and Flurry told members to sell belongings to fund their way to Jordon.  Then all of a sudden he started building a new monstrosity in the middle of Oklahoma that nearly bankrupted the Philadelphia Church of God.  They still have not recovered financially from this mess.

Then there is Dave Pack.  Can anyone's ego ever match this guy? Pack claims to run the world’s largest, most important Church of God on the face of the earth. This is none and never will be anyone like him. Unlike Flurry, who got to buy lots of HWA memento's, Pack did not have the opportunity.  His edifices are monuments only to himself.  While he claims to follow HWA, but this is really all about him.

Pack also has been prepping his members to flee because the end is nigh.  Yet, he too, has taken tithe money and offerings to build his monuments to himself. He now is struggling financially because of his grandiose building plans.  Instead of his entire complex being done by the summer of 2013 now only one little building will be close to being finished.

Have you ever noticed how all of these men build their buildings filled with phallic pillars?  All three with erupting fountain in front of them.  It’s too funny not to make fun of!

All three men had/have ego's that cannot be contained. They feel they are God's gift to the world. People tremble at their sight.  They instill fear every where they go.  They are not the "beloved" leaders they think they are.  A path of death and corruption lays in their wake.  Lives destroyed, marriages broken, suicides and damaged relationships.

The Worldwide Church of God is gone.  It will never come back.  None of the hundreds of harlot daughters of the WCG will EVER reach the same heights of "glory" that the WCG did.  In all actuality it never made any impact in the world either.  The world still does not know WHO the Church of God is.  They only thing some know is that money is the most important message of the Church of God.  Money greases the palms of the countries they want to go into, it builds glorious edifices that will be decaying relics within a few short years.  It builds lush grounds and gardens meant to impress the world, while their members struggle and suffer.  All the Church of God is capable of doing now is having one snit fit after another and splintering off into yet another group.  Hundreds and hundreds of groups with hundreds and hundreds of egotistical little men in charge, all of them doing what they see as right in their own sight, and all accomplishing nothing.

The only thing these edifices all have in common is that they will all be sold off to other people eventually and used for "worldly" purposes because the Church of God is dying.

Dennis on: "I'm Calling a Fast."

"I'm Calling a Fast."

Evidently Dave Pack, Apostle for the Restored Church of God, is in a bit of a bind.  Pledges pledged aren't manifesting as pledged.  This is a common occurrence when fundraising is based on pledges because at the time the emotion of the call and the desire to participate are often bigger than the reality of the bank account. Both Jerry Lewis and NPR understand this well.

I would imagine Dave has a double problem in that a couple years ago everyone was bullied to "send it in" and you can only do that once.  Gee, I wish I could have an income anytime I just said "send it in."   I recall a command of sorts that said,  "And I don't just mean a little. I mean ten thousand , twenty thousand , a hundred thousand..."    Whew...  And now evidently he needs more because of more non-accountability decisions where bucks are needed.   Solution:  Fast and pray.

Most who read this site are well aware of the call to fast and pray during real or imagined emergencies in "the work."   In hind site, the real reason, even if leadership did not know it, was to serve as a distraction to questions about what might be going on and suggestions that rather than push the spiritual burden onto the members and the Deity, one might spend less, change the plan or simply repent of the foolishness of whatever was going on now.  Fasting seemed the tool of congregational distraction and leadership frustration with what to do about any number of things that were out of leadership control.

Personally, I never liked fasting and was not even a big fan of the Day of Atonement.  I never noticed any great changes or interventions whether I fasted or not.  I often wondered, especially now in the day of the Hubbell Telescope, just what am I trying to do?   Is there a God wanting to see me squirm in hunger.  Is this Deity impressed with me not eating and more inclined to listen and answer with a big "YES!"?    If so, what kind of Deity does that and why?  Am I coercing him by my act of not eating for a relatively short time?  Could I accomplish as much if I didn't take a bath for a week or held my breath until I passed out in prayer?  

Frankly I never got it  (please don't say, "and that is why you got no answer) and while I'm sure I gave sermons on it, I'm not sure I ever believed it.  I did read what the Bible said about it, why one does it and what to expect, but never saw much difference in myself or the Church for actually doing what it said.   It was much like "Ask whatever you will in my name and I will give it to you."  While pretty straight forward, it always came with lots of disclaimers and conditions like, "well you have to ask within God's will."  "You are asking amiss."  "God did answer and the answer was 'no'."    "Your ways are not God's ways,"  and so forth.  You simply could not win.  By the time you fulfilled and recognized all the disclaimers the scripture should have read "Ask whatever you will and if you have a great attitude, if it is good for you, if you don't ask amiss and if you are within my will do it, I will maybe do it, but probably not."

Anyway, back to fasting.  I believe that calling a fast in this modern day an age is a diversion used too often by the COGs to draw attention and responsibility away from the leadership who finds itself in a jam.  If the income is down we fast which as far as I can tell does not coerce the Deity into sending more but does coerce the flock, through guilt, to sacrifice more because after all, they are fasting.  Since God owns the cattle on a thousand hills could we not just as much "ask what we will" and ask him to sell some and "send it in" to the True Church we could continue to preach the Gospel (and pay our salaries)?  Combine both those concepts and skip the fasting one.

In my actual experience, I don't see where fasting does as advertised.  Just as I don't see how "prove me now herewith and see if I don't open the windows of heaven for you" by tithing.  I guess I'd have to throw in, "Is any sick among you? Let him call for the elders of the church ....and the sick shall be made well."  Again, can't skip the oil thing and "ask whatever we will"?   This is serious stuff and if you won't answer this one, what do you answer with "yes...I will send it by noon."

All this rather lines up with the concept that "without the shedding of blood, there is NO FORGIVENESS of sin."  Really?  Why not?  Why can't I ask whatever I will, such as "please forgive me," and skip the mess and the middlemen.  Was that concept concocted by Priests who made their living off blood shedding and sacrifices?  I am suspicious.  Let's face it, if some Old Testament character way ahead of his or her time could convince the crowds that they didn't have to buy expensive animals and take hundreds of hours a year to get them killed and drained for their sins, the Temple and Priesthood would be out of business, and I do mean business.

Well, this is not a big topic.  We all know what the Bible says about it but I am looking back at the fruits of it all and perhaps the real motives of those that command others to follow them in a fast for whatever.  It seems something done to control the mind of the faithful, wear them down a bit, guilt them a lot and distract them from their leadership making the hard decisions to back down from glorious and expensive ideas about how they want to do their work.  

Instead of fasting for income and because the building fund pledges or the income or the problems of the church are huge, why not, members, try this.

Minister/Leader

"I want to build a college."

Member

"No, its too expensive and stupid idea. Few will come and who is going to pay for all this and run it when you croak?"

Minister/Leader

"I want to expand our printing and the coverage of my wonderful telecast to all the world."

Member

"That's fine when you have inspired the ones you have already to send in enough to take the next step but please don't ask us for any more money.  We did send it in last time."

Minister/Leader

"We want to pick up and mover our headquarters to another state."

Member

"Screw that!"

I think we get the point.  Money is the grease that lubes the wheel of everyone's "work."  It is not prayer.  It is not fasting to coerce the Deity or show it how humble one is so please "send it in from on high."  It is money and you can't get money out of a turnip as they say, but for some reason Ministers and especially the self appointed Apostles and Prophets, Witnesses and Watchers are more bold about it.

Just think how your money bought Ron Weinland and Laura big houses, fancy cars, gold, diamonds and world tours to speak to a few folk and call it all "Church."  You really have to not have a conscience to do that and we know what that's a definition of.

So, yet another fast is called by yet another Guru who needs, not more faith, hope or love, but money.  I don't know or not if Dave Pack can pull off the College thing.  I do know he is not big enough to need it.  I can't imagine who would waste their time and money on attending if they did their homework on a good theological background check.  What kind of God Haunted and brain dead kids would go?  I think we are past the time where parents get to pick the college for the kids but maybe not.  

In the Church of God, calling a fast, IMHO, is a diversion from facing realities and addressing them.  They are usually called to address them long after they should have first been addressed for then one would not be fasting.  Fasts are called because the leadership of either a few or just the one is nervous about money and paying the bills they/he ring up without oversight or accountability.

This my experience as a member and a minister having soaked for decades in these fasts and pleas appearing to follow Biblical injunctions for such times as these, but in fact, consciously or unconsciously using it to divert from Church issues that should have been better handled in first place and way back when some genius thought them up.

Thoughts?

DennisCDiehl@aol.com