Aaron Dean on Dave Pack: "I feel sorry for his people as he is demanding so much from them"

Forwarded to me tonight from a Yahoo group:

Posted By: Aaron Dean

Dave Pack appears to be using scare tactics to gain a following and grab former WCG members.  He buys web search engine spots on every other church groups name, even Lifenets and facebook pages to do what I refer to as "sheep rustling" to all familiar with HWA.  This is something HWA would never do. He then puts them down, and then says he is the true church. UCG had to buy a spot to say "This is the official UCG web site" to keep people from thinking he is it, or getting wrong information.

I feel sorry for his people as he is demanding so much from them, like asking them to borrow against their homes (and if the husband won't do it, as community property he asks the wife to borrow her half - again going against a husband is something HWA would never demand except to obey God's law. Borrowing against the family home to give to the church is not one of God's laws.  Proper respect of your husband is) and then justifying it by saying they had all things in common in Acts.  Of course that is not what Acts is about.   We had a long email exchange where he was upset with answers I gave from questions mostly from his own people, saying I was lying, but ended up justifying everything I had listed in giving answers. Obviously he felt I was keeping people from him with his claims of being so close to HWA and other issues.

Gamaliel's advice will play out on him. He does not do as Mr. Armstrong did and I pray for people who are, or will be, hurt by him.  He has a grandiose plan and needs a lot more money to complete it and many are fooled by scare tactics.

Philadelphia Church of God's Mark Nash

A reader here commented about Mark Nash of the Philadelphia Church of God and his new moon nonsense.  I decided to look the guy up and see what he said.

The very first thing that popped up was nothing about "new moons" but the fact that he was in prison for tax evasion and that PCG let him preach while out on "good behavior" weekends.

Another person of interest is Mark Nash. He is a former Navy Seal or Green Beret, with all the "talents" taught to them. He went to prison for defrauding the IRS, and yet was not even suspended while in prison. In fact, he was allowed to give sermons while on leave for "good behavior." If any member on the bottom level was similarly put away, he would be put out for putting the "church" in a bad light. After all, even deacons are supposed to be "blameless" in the world and of "good reputation." What gives? What do these men know that keeps them in the "good old boy network"? These two men, at least, have knowledge that keeps them on the "inside." Otherwise, Flurry would have disposed of them long ago. Mark Nash now teaches Physical Ed and who knows what else. ESN

If he had been a low class regular church member they would have kicked him out.  Because he was part of the "elite" they did nothing to him.

Another wonderful legacy of Armstrongism and the Philadelphia Church of God.  Flurryism rocks!

Happy 121st Birthday!

Bob Thiel wants you to know today is Herbert Armstrong's birthday.  Bob Thiel also wants you to know that TRUE Christians do NOT celebrate birthdays - they only acknowledge them.  WTH?

Like any good Armstrongite trained at Rod Meredith's feet, Debby Downer has to bring death and sex into the birthday wishes acknowledgements.

Herbert W. Armstrong was born 121 years ago, on July 31, 1892. And a lot has happened in the world since he was born. From automobiles to the space age, from paper to computers and the internet, from WWI to WWII to terrorism, from societal respect for biblical principles to abortion & homosexual marriage “rights.” There have been changes.

But “he who does the will of God abides forever” (1 John 2:17).
Even though we in the most faithful COGs actually do not celebrate (but do acknowledge) birthdays, nor do we celebrate his (see also the article Did Early Christians Celebrate Birthdays?), since many who come to this page know little about him that this would be a good time to tell a few things about him.

119 Ministries: Attracting Armstrongites Who Require the Law

Here is an interesting web site called 119 Ministries.  I have to admit it is a slick well produced site.  There are COG members that are attracted to this group.

As usual, it is a mish-mash of Armstrongism mixed in with Messianic Judaism.  The law reigns supreme along with some works based "grace."

Their videos are slick and well produced.  They put to shame anything Dave Pack, Gerald Flurry or Bob Thiel is putting out.  The videos are certainly compelling and for an Armstrongite struggling with the 700 different opinions by 700 different splinter cult leaders, I can see why some are attracted to this group. If I had to choose between this group and James Malm it would be an easy decision.

True to their Messianic roots they also wear tzitzits which you can conveniently buy from them: