Exposing the underbelly of Armstrongism in all of its wacky glory! Nothing you read here is made up. What you read here is the up to date face of Herbert W Armstrong's legacy. It's the gritty and dirty behind the scenes look at Armstrongism as you have never seen it before!
With all the new crazy self-appointed Chief Overseers, Apostles, Prophets, Pharisees, legalists, and outright liars leading various Churches of God today, it is important to hold these agents of deception accountable.
Herbert Armstrong's Tangled Web of Corrupt Leaders
Would you be willing to spend a couple more thousand dollars a year in addition to Feast of Tabernacles expenses just so you can spend 7 days at a "feast" location for Unelaveend Bread? Some Sabbatarian groups think you will.
Not content with living in grace and new covenant freedom, those entrenched in legalism seek to even further impact members' wallets.
Prior to the great Worldwide Church of God upheaval that spawned hundreds of splinter groups, some WCG members were getting wrapped up in the sacred name and Messianic Judaism groups. Given that many COG members felt that they were better "Jews" than regular Jews, it made sense for some of these people to venture into Messianic Judaism and sacred name groups. The more Jewish they could pretend to be the more righteous they felt.
The Forgotten Seven Day Feast Some smaller churches will be observing the Festival of Unleavened Bread in 2023 for the full seven days – but for most people, particularly those who were in the Worldwide Church of God, going to “The Feast” means Tabernacles. Very few are aware that the Church, under its former name, the Radio Church of God, also celebrated the Festival of Unleavened Bread for the full seven days – not just the two annual high days as now.
When my mother first joined the church in 1959 people still looked fondly back at the items that they got to gather together for 7 days during Days of Unleavened Bread. Some of the people in our church area did attend these sites, but far too many could not get off work for this. By the late 1960's the church was spreading around the country and these "feast" locations were not feasible for people to drive long distances to, take more days off work, and spend more money.
In 1952 Herbert and Loma Armstrong travelled to Gladewater, Texas, for Passover and the 1st holy day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread. They were overwhelmed by the large numbers who came, not only from Texas, but as far afield as Wisconsin and Michigan.
“We know now – God has shown us plainly and unmistakably – that we must have an adequate place of our own in this central location for the Passover and Feast of Unleavened Bread EVERY YEAR.
The proper place for meetings of this kind is not an expensive brick or stone or concrete church building on a main corner of a city in all the traffic and noise of the world – but to get CLEAR AWAY FROM THE WORLD – out into God’s own open beautiful nature, utterly secluded from the world!
Next Spring, we shall plan a full eight-day festival, to last thru the entire seven days of unleavened bread following the Passover, and all who plan to come are urged now, with a year ahead to plan, to start laying plans to come for the entire eight days …
Yes, this opens up AN ENTIRE NEW PHASE of God’s great work. This will provide a place for annual great conclaves of God’s people, where many who cannot come as far as Pasadena can meet together at God’s great festivals.
“In SEVEN major Festivals here in America, plus others in England, Australia and around the world – a glorious season was observed this year! “THEREFORE let us KEEP THE FEAST …” (I Cor. 5:8).
In obeying this inspired New Testament COMMAND to Christians, over TEN THOUSAND brethren of God’s Church assembled this spring to observe the Passover and Feast of Unleavened Bread. All reports indicate that there was GREAT JOY in this observance.” Why then in 1968 (the year the church was renamed Worldwide) were all the festival sites discontinued?
According to the article Days of Unleavened Bread – How Should They Be Observed? [p.4] by the Church of God the Eternal (supporting the change to observing the 2 high days only): “… the receipt of income for “the Gospel” was appreciably reduced each Spring, because most of the members did not receive any salary or wages during the week they attended the seven Days of Unleavened Bread. Consequently, tithes and offerings dropped off alarmingly in the Spring …
It was felt by Mr. Armstrong that if the Gospel were to continue to go forth with growth and power, the membership would have to be in a financial position to contribute heavily. The observance of the Days of Unleavened Bread for the full seven days was thwarting this effort.”
Like everything in Armstrongism, money was the common denominator.
When you toil mentally over something but put it down to get a good night’s sleep, you sometimes wake up with insight you did not grasp before because you were too close to it.
During Part 419 of “The Greatest Unending Story!” on February 14, 2023, David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God spent almost two hours establishing that the Kingdom to Israel comes first and will be ruled by Elijah because the Father gives him authority over “all He has.”
Part 419 – February 14, 2023
@ 1:00:22 Which Lord made the wise and faithful servant, Elijah, ruler over His household for a couple-dozen years? Well, God did.
@ 1:01:04 Well, now, the same Lord is described as making him ruler over all that He has.
@ 1:06:53 So, the householder [the Father] can come early on…and gives all that He has to Elijah. That is not Christ.
@ 1:07:31 Christ has no kingdom yet to give. God raises all of us. Elijah.
Without using these exact words, David C. Pack teaches Elijah will be ruler over the First Kingdom to Israel with authority given by God the Father.
If you ever paid attention to anything posted on exrcg.org, please pay attention to this.
The Third Kingdom is ruled by the Father.
It is the Father’s Kingdom.
The Second Kingdom is ruled by Jesus Christ.
It is Christ’s Kingdom.
The First Kingdom is ruled by Elijah.
It is Elijah’s Kingdom.
David C. Pack is Elijah.
It is the Kingdom of David C. Pack.
This kingdom comes first and is labeled “The Kingdom to Israel” or “The First Kingdom” throughout Parts 419 and 420. It is stated repeatedly that this is NOT the Kingdom of God.
The implication is: Since the dawn of time from the Garden, all humanity has been anticipating and hoping for the arrival of the Kingdom of Dave, which signals to the entire world there IS a God. The God of the Bible is real. Jesus Christ is real. Elijah is real. The time draws near. Repent you and believe the Gospel. Be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ.
David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God is now teaching with full assurance and clarity:
The Coming of the Kingdom of Dave
This is no wordplay or humorous analogy. He is preaching EXACTLY this. A very sobering development.
What is occurring inside The Restored Church of God is nothing short of catastrophic blasphemy. This is Paul pleading day and night with tears type of conditions.
There is a new Trinitarian doctrine capturing the minds of the brethren.
The Father. The Son. Elijah, aka David C. Pack.
If there was a time to fear for the people attending The Restored Church of God, it is now. This is the greatest test anyone attending has ever faced.
Which God do you serve, brethren? Which spirit do you follow? Which Gospel do you believe? Do you obey a man or God?
It is hard to wrap your head around this reality. It is almost too big to believe is true.
“Marc Cebrian is making it up to get attention and cause a stir. He is just a bitter, disgruntled ex-employee lashing out by making up lies to tarnish the good people in The Restored Church of God.”
Sure about that? Reread Dave's words. Listen to all of Part 419 and try to deny it.
An Angel of Light would not blatantly declare, “I am Elijah, and I will rule the First Kingdom.”
A statement like that could rouse even the sleepy-heads across the street.
No. You must digest the entire message, discern the key points, and connect the dots.
I do not believe David C. Pack consciously knows what he is saying. He is not the originator of these ideas, which means he is in far worse shape than I could have imagined.
Elijah is becoming increasingly LIKE the Most-High. Part 420 takes things a step further.
Part 420 – February 17, 2023
@ 06:56 Will we, will you be seen in the Kingdom to Israel? Or will only your voice be heard?
@ 07:14 God will not yet be seen. We know that. He goes to His temple and stays there. He hides His power. He will not be seen. Christ is not revealed until His Day.
@ 07:34 Christ will not be seen. There is no evidence that Elijah is seen. The Bible emphasizes his voice over and over again.
During the First Kingdom to Israel, the Father will be invisible. Jesus Christ will be invisible. Elijah will be invisible. The members of The Restored Church of God will be invisible.
This begins in the days ahead before the Kingdom of God arrives on the Day of the Lord on Abib 1, March 22, 2023. Part 420 explains a 14 ½-day period that starts before that.
Years of doctrinal fraud and conditioning…
An apostle. Joshua, the High Priest. Elijah. That Prophet.
“The Greatest Unending Story! (Part 419)” can be summarized this way:
David C. Pack finishes the Mystery of God by heralding "good news" about the rise of Elijah to rule the First "Kingdom to Israel." Jesus Christ rules the Kingdom of God after.
Dave first. Jesus Christ later. Got it?
The rest of this good news is additional color, texture, and flavor out of the mouth of the Pastor General of The Restored Church of God.
Dave reminded everyone how prophetic understanding can easily intrude on Christian living.
@ 17:25 “Hallowed be Your name. Your kingdom come.” Now, are you praying for (we could ask) are you praying (this is important to know) are you praying for the First Kingdom to come? Or you praying for the Second Kingdom to come when Christ told all saints to pray for this?
Dave insists on inserting his perversions into “the model prayer” from Matthew 6 and Luke 11. Since he says the Kingdom to Israel is NOT the Kingdom of God, we have to be careful.
When this was first brought up years ago, I made a point of not letting Dave get into my head while praying. I actively rejected him.
“God, please bring Your Kingdom.” End of story. First, second, third, or tenth was inconsequential on my knees. “Father, let your will be done.” That was the only way I knew to cope. Ignore Dave and not let him into my prayer closet.
That continues to be my advice for the members of The Restored Church of God. His speculations do not need to invade your prayers. It will only introduce doubt and confusion, which is the spirit he serves.
David C. Pack is Elijah-Elect and is more super-fantabulous than you realized.
@ 1:00:22 Which Lord made the wise and faithful servant, Elijah, ruler over His household for a couple-dozen years? Well, God did.God selects apostles. He selects every saint. He selected every one of you.
Dave reminds the audience God placed him in his current position. If you mess with him, you are messing with God. He has been ruling over the household since RCG was founded, but he will be elevated during the First Kingdom.
This statement is past tense. He HAS BEEN Elijah for "a couple-dozen years." Elijah is a prophet, making Dave a prophet. Being wrong once makes you a false prophet. Did Dave just slip up again and admit he is a false prophet?
@ 1:00:55 Which Lord had him ruler over His household a couple decades ago? Almost 24 years ago. God. Well, now, the same Lord is described as making him ruler over all that He has.
During the First Kingdom to Israel, David C. Pack will be the ruler over all God has. That will make things a tad awkward for yours truly.
@ 1:06:53 So, the householder [the Father] can come early on and be here for the parable of the wheat and tares and gives all that He has to Elijah. That is not Christ. Christ has to go and get a kingdom.
One thing I always found curious is how Dave is woven in and out of the Bible. He is mentioned in one verse but is suspiciously absent from the next.
Matthew 24 and Luke 12 describe Dave until things turn sour. Then, the identity of the servant changes.
“But if that evil servant…” is suddenly NOT David C. Pack.
The flow from Matthew 24:45-51 and Luke 12:42-48 is seamless. But not according to Dave because that cannot be him. Why? Because he said so.
Dave is in Matthew 24:45-47, but not in :48-51. Got it?
Dave is in Luke 12:42-44, but not in :45-48. Got it?
Keep the good. Throw out the bad. Easy peasy.
David C. Pack reframes the context of the entire Bible. Nobody has ever read it in the way it was intended. Not Herbert W. Armstrong and not anyone inside The Restored Church of God. Until today.
@ 1:29:12 What I'm gonna tell you is true of the Old Testament and New. The Gospels, the Epistles, Revelation, the Prophets, and Psalms. And I never saw this. I wish I had.
@ 1:29:30 So what happens is, now follow this, all of those Epistles, Gospels, Prophets, Revelation, all start from a position talking to saints from inside the First Kingdom.
@ 1:30:23 The New Testament starts from the presumption that Christ already came, spoke, and everybody in the grave stood up, and you're in the First Kingdom.
The First Kingdom is “The Kingdom to Israel” and is NOT the Kingdom of God. That is what Christians are really waiting for. For Elijah to be the ruler over all God has during the First Kingdom.
Boy, is that some good news or what? More so for Elijah than anyone else.
@ 1:35:39 But it [Revelation] does need to tell you, there was this fella who was making things clear.
Yes. Central to God's plan is to have David C. Pack spell all this out. Like we need constant reminders.
@ 1:37:05 Boy, I wish I'd have understood the story of all of Paul's writings was from inside the First Kingdom.If I'd have known that and Revelation and that Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, but base all the parables of Matthew, Mark, and Luke, and particularly particularly were all inside the First Kingdom. Wow. What a difference that would've made. So I'm explaining to you a great mystery nobody else knows.
Nobody else knows because it is not true. Dave has taken a razor blade to the Kingdom of God in the Bible to cut out “the Kingdom to Israel” in Acts 1 as being separate. And that Elijah will rule it. The good news keeps rolling.
@ 1:37:33 And I defy anybody who knows anything about the Bible to come and tell me otherwise.
If anyone in The Restored Church of God attempted this, they would be out the door before their coffee got cold. This is an empty threat with no teeth. Dennis Diehl has been offering to talk things over with Dave for years.
Brad, he can be reached at DennisCDiehl@aol.com. Yes, we can all laugh because he still uses AOL. He is up for taking on Dave with this open challenge.
Only a pure coward throws out a dare like that, knowing he will never accept it when it comes. That coward is David C. Pack.
@ 1:39:06 So, this opens and explains a giant key to Bible prophecy. All these books start from a position that Jesus Christ already came with the Kingdom to Israel.
And then Elijah gets to manage it.
The All-Believing Zealots should allow the blood back into their faces. Dave once taught that the Book of Hebrews had one audience and one topic: The Restored Church of God and "The Prophecy." All Brethren Back Together Soon. Elul 24. 2013. Nothing happened, and Hebrews was tossed back into the cell with the other New Testament riffraff.
I suspect that by Passover, this “the entire Bible is about” shtick will fall into the “we thought” bucket.
Dave took a detour to explain how significant Dave is in Revelation. Okay, he said Elijah, but we all know who that is by now. He preaches about himself in the third person as if he is somehow disconnected from the concept that he is teaching a ton about himself.
This next bit is odd but goofy at the same time.
@ 1:32:44 404 verses are in the Book of Revelation. Do you know how many verses in those 404 verses in the Book of Revelation speak at all…of a period (any kind of period) before the First Kingdom or the Second or the Third, or even on beyond that, beyond the Great White Throne judgment?
He spends a full minute winding up the world's most extended question. Someone call Guinness.
@ 1:33:41 How many verses in that book speak of any kind of period before the First Kingdom? One. Now, how big does this become? “In the days of the voice of the Seventh Messenger.” Revelation 10:7.
That 1 of 404 had to be for today. That 1 of 404 had to be about Dave. Good grief, Charlie Brown. He then speculates on insignificant information suggesting significance. This is the goofy part.
@ 1:34:03 “In the days of the voice of the Seventh Messenger.” 170 verses in and…some 233 after it…It's almost in the middle of the book.
170 verses in. 233 after. By that logic, there are 64 verses qualifying as “almost in the middle of the book.” When you frame it that way, the point seems pointless. It almost sounds like he was making something out of nothing to give more weight to his stale hot air.
@ 1:34:19 That's the only time anything is said that's before any of the kingdoms it describes. That should sober you. That makes the importance of that verse where the Mystery of God has ended when he's about to sound loom like the icebergs rearing up in front of the Titanic. It's huge. It is literally a Titanic verse.
The words fall from his lips, and he has no idea what he is saying.
Yes, Dave, your teaching about this is like the Titanic. It is big and heavy and was boasted as being unsinkable. However, it will sink and kill most of the people who are on board.
Fun fact: There were more people on the Titanic than currently attending The Restored Church of God.
@ 1:34:43 And I take it tremendously seriously that I had better fulfill that. It's called a charge, where I'm fast and granular and make it plain.
Would you like to know what else is fast and granular, Dave? Heroin. Heroin is fast and granular. You word junkie, you.
@ 1:34:54 That's the only key that particular book gives of how to know you're at the end.The other 403 verses speak to once it already started from start to finish all the way to the end of the book. "Come, Lord Jesus," that's the Second Kingdom.
How many times has Dave warned in video and literature over the years not to base a doctrine on a single verse?
How did he prove this 1 of 404 in Revelation is for our present time? Because he said so. Mic drop.
Hopefully, nobody in RCG wrote this down in ink. Everyone should be well-trained in pencil by now.
All Laodiceans are going into the Fire during the Great Tribulation.
None of them can escape, in case you were wondering. That is because those dummy jerkfaces refused to listen to Dave year after year. So, they will get hammered in the coming weeks as Dave stares out his Third Floor Tower with peaceful satisfaction.
He is speaking to you Splinter folks out there: LCG, UCG, PCG, COGwa, CGI, etcetera.
Dave weaved that good news with some of his personal resentments.
@ 1:52:31 And I have written thousands of pages to them [Laodicea]. I don’t know how many messages to them. They’re so hypocritical they take all of our material and use it for years because their organization’s so lazy and covetous…
The concept of “freely you have received, freely give” is for suckers. Dave must own the copyright on God's truth. If anyone outside RCG wants to use the material he helped write, that is a sin.
David C. Pack did not write ALL the literature by himself.
Just because his name appears alone on the covers today does not erase the group of men who were instrumental in crafting the books and booklets over the years.
If anyone knows Bruce Ritter, you need to shake that man’s hand the next time you see him and thank him for his incredible contributions to the legacy material of The Restored Church of God.
James Turck and Gabe Lischak once had their names on the covers, too. Remind Dave about that and watch his nostrils flare and ears turn red.
Rather than being flattered and humbled by God’s True Church spreading the Gospel of the Kingdom of God, and that wonderful knowledge is reaching outside the corporate walls of The Restored Church of God, Dave is pissy about it.
With that sour face, Mr. Poopy Pants snatched his toy and stomped home. “Mine!”
What a whiny little bitch Dave can sometimes be. Who is the covetous one here?
Instead of being proud that RCG material is cherished by those outside the organization, he attacks. By their fruits, you shall know them. Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks. And Dave’s mouth speaks volumes.
@ 1:52:43 …they spend it all on their ministry.
Instead of horses, trees, gardens, and unnecessary $500,000 houses like The True Church does.
@ 1:52:46 And then we're accused of wanting their money, but they use our literature for free because their own literature's junk. And it's full of junk. It's printed with the quality of junk, and it's fully of junk. And they know better because they're all on our websites and have been for years.
@ 1:53:02 They’re not gonna get a pass. You can’t recover in 15 days for what you blew off for 30 years.
@ 1:53:21 So, the Seventh Era is destined for arrest, prison, torture, and death. And they're gonna have to endure to the end, and it says it one way after another after another after another, and I didn't necessarily wanna tell you that…
Yikes. I can hardly wait for this guy to rule the First Kingdom. The whole world having to listen to Dave sounds like a living nightmare. Check me out early.
Why tell those in RCG when it does not apply to them, Dave? Why not warn the people who need to be alerted if time is so short and your message is so urgent? In an interesting twist of circumstances, the exrcg.org website is doing what rcg.org is not.
If he were seriously concerned about the well-being of the people in the Splinters, he would rush out a new video or letter posted publically as one-last try at helping them before the door slams shut.
But instead, he rants at the lectern to his paid audience. And then applies the money pressure again.
Common is now tied to the 1335 of Daniel. Common is “selling all” and connects directly to salvation.
@ 1:54:02 Now, some among us have not adhered [to the 1335]. It isn't "blessed are they those that come to the 1335," and I explained this the other day. "Blessed are those who adhere," they hold on, and they're doing the right thing. I know there are people among us who have not “sold all.”They haven’t adhered. They didn’t quit. But, they haven’t adhered. It’s not too late.
Pay-to-play. The brethren enjoying the blessing of the 1335 still need to give up the extra funds even though RCG will not have time to spend them. Then why give? A show of faith.
It is about the money with Dave. Is that an accusation or a statement of fact?
Think about those who “gave all” around Pentecost last year, and time rolled on.
Think about those who "gave all" at the Feast of Tabernacles last year, and time rolled on.
Think about them before you do it now. Because when Passover and Unleavened Bread roll around, those fresh green envelopes will not stuff themselves.
Vote with your checkbooks and your feet, brethren of God. Dave cannot hear you otherwise. He only speaks in dollar signs.
@ 1:54:54 We find people leave, and they say, "There were a lot of things I didn't agree with." Well, they were lying to us. And they were lying, maybe lying to themselves. They took all the literature like they were members. But, it didn’t belong to them because they weren’t in agreement, and they shoulda left, and eventually, they always do.
Maybe stop giving away the literature for free on the website to the general public.
What about the people who AGREE with the literature but do NOT AGREE with David C. Pack? The literature DOES NOT MATCH what the sermons teach. It is impossible to keep up. The material is outdated, and they continue to offer it because they need to keep fresh wallets walking in the door.
@ 1:55:15 So, now I’m gonna just say to you one last time, there iddn’t much time left. If you’re not squared away, get there.
Ha. This is not the last time.
For those who continue to hold back your Common, reread this quote on March 23 and email me how thankful you are.
Dave is wrong. He will always be wrong. And for all our sakes, that is some good news.
