Sunday, April 26, 2020

Dave Pack and Social Media




God's most superfantabulous Church of God leader to ever exist (after Bob Thiel, of course) is Dave Pack.  As God's most important man, it is vitally important that Dave maintain full control over his dwindling supply of cash cows.

Dave has never had a good relationship with social media over the years when it came to members speaking their mind or participating on Twitter, Facebook, and elsewhere.  All of those avenues of expressing ones self were, in his eyes, holding the door open for Satan to enter their minds which would cause them to write things Dave did not approve of.

Now that many of Dave's ATM machines are isolated at home. some are going online to socialize with their brethren.  Dave has set a limit on how many can talk together without having a minister involved in the chat.

Social Media Groups 4/18/2020
During these difficult times, an extraordinary fruit has been borne—increased contact and communication with each other through social media. This is inspiring to see! As we find ourselves becoming more isolated by events beyond our control, we encourage everyone to continue to find unique ways to fellowship.
It is important to remember the Church’s policy that when 10 or more gather together for activities, just like at Feast sites, it is recommended than an elder should be present. Similarly, when using social media in a group of 10 or more, we ask that you include your local minister so all things can be done decently and in order (I Cor. 14:40).
Please continue to reach out to brethren as we are encouraged to do: “Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also you do” (I Thes. 5:11). 

13 comments:

Tonto said...

Yes Brethren (err children),...DO THIS ONLY WITH YOUR MINISTER PRESENT

Hold hands and look both ways when you cross the street, wear your bicycle helmet, wait a half an hour to go swimming after eating, say "excuse me" when you "pass gas", dont pick your nose, dont run with scissors, wear clean underwear in case you get in a car wreck, stay more than 6 feet away from the TV, Dont cross your eyes or they will stay that way, dont crack your knuckles, and finally...dont get any "FREE LITERATURE" from a church.

Anonymous said...

when 10 or more gather together for activities, just like at Feast sites, it is recommended than an elder should be present.

You need an elder to play basketball with your friends?

If you and your wife are taking care of aged parents, and you have six children, you need an elder present at all times? Or will Pack ordain Dad to keep everything decent and in order?

Come to me, you who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you MORE BURDENS. Yeah, that's DP's Christ for you!

Anonymous said...

If I were an ACOG member right now, I would be more curious about what others outside of my group were saying, thinking, and doing. So, I would be looking outward for information and ideas, and because such activity would be considered unauthorized and subversive, it's not something which I would share with other brethren.

Is that activity, looking outward, which is totally normal for me, something in which ACOG members would indulge, or are indulging? As a hypothetical, if you happen to be part of a group whose official stance is that corona virus is all a hoax to unseat the president, are you secretly wearing a mask when going to the supermarket, and washing your hands frequently? And if so, does this indicate, in practice, an emerging distrust of your leader? Do you trust him for straight information which will help you through the current crisis? I can actually see this trust or distrust being a matter of life or death in some very real cases, right now, and in real time.

This is probably quite the little dilemma for ACOG members who are aware of their leaders' pronouncements, but also mindful of the mounting statistics which belie everything he is telling them. This is most certainly a time when you would want above all things for your leader to get it right. We're not just talking about another failed prophecy, an "Opps! Jesus didn't show as we thought" moment. If your leader gets it wrong, this time you could actually die! It's something to think deeply about.

R.L. said...

People using social media is "inspiring to see"?!?!

This is almost a sea change for RCG. Remember when David Pack opposed blogging?

Anonymous said...

Is that activity, looking outward, which is totally normal for me, something in which ACOG members would indulge, or are indulging?

Remember those couple of posts, a week or two ago, from what seemed to be a young LCG employee? Yes, his words defended his employer. His actions, however, demonstrated that he is already willing to disobey Gerald Weston's dictums about not getting involved in sites like this. That seed of rebellion isn't going to go away.

Once he reads the material on this site, he will figure out that there are some nutty people who invent stories and exaggerate LCG's faults. However, he will also see that there is a lot of material that coincides with his own experience. Confronted with the realization that he isn't the first to notice some serious discrepancies in LCG, he will either double down and become a full sociopath, or he will wake up and eventually leave the cult.

Anonymous said...


Dave Pack has rustled, slaughtered, and consumed a lot of cash cows that had the old WCG brand on them.

DennisCDiehl said...

Let us recall the original decree from "Mr Pack" to the brethren on the topic of blogging.

"The Conclusion--and Solution

So what have we learned? Recall that a blog provider stated, with blogs "there are no rules." This is obviously not true with God. He does have rules and guidelines, but not everything is spelled out in the Bible. We must take principles and consider the overall big picture.

Should teenagers and others in the Church express themselves to the world through blogs? Because of the obvious dangers; the clear biblical principles that apply; the fact that it gives one a voice; that it is almost always idle words; that teens often do not think before they do; that it is acting out of boredom; and it is filled with appearances of evil--blogging is simply not to be done in the Church. It should be clear that it is unnecessary and in fact dangerous on many levels.

Let me emphasize that no one--including adults--should have a blog or personal website (unless it is for legitimate business purposes).

When this policy, now being instituted, was discussed with Mr. Pack and other Headquarters ministers, there was not a shadow of doubt in anyone's mind that blogs are something youth should not be doing in any way.

As has been said before, Jesus Christ and His Church have standards. Those who desire fewer standards should go to the splinters or to the world.

When trying to justify something, teenagers will often narrow in to specific areas, and say, "Well this particular thing isn't wrong!" They will then use this as proof that the larger thing is okay. Do not allow yourself to think this way. Consider all the elements we have discussed.

Blogging has become a socially accepted practice--just as are dating seriously too young, underage drinking and general misbehaving. But just because someone else "jumps off the cliff" does not mean you should do the same.

Some questions naturally arise: "Can I have a photo gallery?" For example, maybe you visited an exotic country and want to share your photos with close friends. This can be done, but certain guidelines apply. Of course, there should never be any inappropriate pictures (again, be careful of the appearance of evil); it should be private and password protected, and only shown to family and closest friends.

Is this article saying that every blog in the world is wrong? No, of course not! Again, there are some professionals and specialists who use blogs to serve a proper purpose."

and too

""But what does this have to do with blogs?

The Internet--and more specifically blogs--has enabled everyone to have a voice on any matter. Now everyone's thoughts are "published" for all to see. Whether or not it is effective, as soon as something is posted the person has a larger voice. It often makes the blogger feel good or makes him feel as if his opinion counts--when it is mostly mindless blather!...

Ask yourself, "Do I have a tendency to want to have a voice?"

...The level of shallowness and emotional immaturity this represents is astonishing! In the grand scheme of things, why would the world at large care?

People naturally want to make a mark in this world; they want to make a difference, and many believe blogs will allow them to do this. However, most blogs, especially by teenagers, serve as nothing more than public diaries. (Of course, there is nothing inherently wrong with a personal diary, as long as it is kept private.) Although certain professional weblogs can make a positive difference within some elements of society, teen blogging does not."


https://ezinearticles.com/?An-Open-Letter-to-the-Teens-in-the-Restored-Church-of-God&id=320190

WHAT ABOUT THE TRUTH said...

The RCG elite is a hard group to "live" with when you are a member of this organization.

Having made it to headquarters for the Feast one year, we the poor members had to endure 20 minute daily announcements on a detailed list of all the things we couldn't or shouldn't do.

With this daily list came the pronouncement that all who couldn't meet the standard were not welcome either on the premises or in the meeting hall.

So if your mini van is leaking a drop of oil, you your wife and four children will have to find another way to get to services. If you have a little cough you are not to come to services because we are recording and we want complete silence. Kids that are a little noisy, are not allowed in the meeting hall. Don't touch this or that. Don't walk there without a minister or meet with a large group of people.

It is too hard to go on. Mel Gibson got it right portraying William Wallace. FREEEEEEDOOOOM!

Anonymous said...

All this talk about david pack is depressing. I vote to turn this site into a porn site. It will be more fun.

Lake of Fire Church of God said...

1 Corinthians 14:40 reads "Let all things be done decently and in order."

I'm no Bible scholar, but it seems to me since Communist Dave Packatolla referenced this verse that actually reading the verse is appropriate. It seems to me that the verse can apply to the individual one person lone Christian, or it can apply to the entire Church of God which was small at the time with no upper limit. Perhaps I am taking this verse out of context, but then so did Communist Dave by referencing it. There is no mention made of a local minister in this referenced verse. It does NOT say "when using social media in a group of 10 or more, we ask that you include your local minister so all things can be done decently and in order".

As Dennis Diehl has pointed out many times, the internet was the death of the Worldwide Church of God. I am sure Commie Dave knows Dennis is correct and has probably even Dennis comments about it. Freedom of information, and information that was withheld from all of us who grew up in the WCG suddenly became known to us all albeit decades later. I surmise this is Communist Dave's way of acknowledging the reality of the internet, of social media in particular and how it helped splinter the WCG, and he doesn't want the same to happen to his RCG. He doesn't want his tithe slaves leaving the Commune plantation. So get a local minister involved in any on-line gathering to police the dumb tithe slave brethren. They might actually stumble on the truth, and spread it among his cash cows.

Richard



Hoss said...

While I'm not a fan of popular social media, I do have an account on LinkedIn with about 700 connections. If I was in RCG, does that mean 70 of the connections should be elders or above? Are there that many still in RCG?

Byker Bob said...

Is Banned considered to be social media? How about You Tube? If they are, then I guess I'm on social media. I don't do Facebook, and I don't tweet, but know others who live their lives very publically on these.

A business colleague years ago persuaded me to join Linked In. I was inundated by requests to the extent that I shut it down shortly thereafter because I didn't really want everyone knowing my business. Working through spoken recommendations and referrals carries much more weight.

BB

Anonymous said...

Do you think this leach would actually get out and work for a living?