The Dave Pack clown show continues....
God has been directly channeling thoughts into Dave's mind...or, so he says.
From an RCG source:
Sermon 285
So, here we go again with another 53 whopping reasons (!) why Christ will be returning this Friday evening.
I would be interested in hearing from an RCG member or minister to issue an apologetic for how Dave can speak "with God's authority," as "His messenger," deliver a 2 hour message where he claims the material comes directly from God and then it is ALL wrong.
So we will either see Christ, the Kingdom, all the New Testament saints and all Israel [resurrected] in just over 4 days, or you have more conclusive evidence that God isn't speaking through or involved in RCG.
Disclaimer: These are loose quotes (consider it the "NLT" of Dave's sermon).
- 25:05 - "I have 53 points or indicators that Christ comes on the Sabbath!"
- 47:21 - Is there some reason the final servant [God's Final Servant] who is selected is named "David Passover?"...Why? I know what David meant but why?...It meant I was a Levite probably..." [Hard to know if he meant "Pack/Passover" was why he called himself a Levite, ultimately doesn't matter]
- 48:50 - In 2014, I explained about the walls of Jericho falling down, now exactly 7 years later [2021 by his count] is when the Father will return. [Unleavened Bread]
- 49:33 - I knew nothing of this as recently as of last Friday morning...
- 54:15 - Doubling down on a lot of crazy math. 1,335, 1,290, 11.5 days, 3.5 days, etc...it intersects with Christ's return and now counts down, not up!
- 57:18-1:06:47 - If Christ doesn't come this Friday, allowing the Father to arrive at the last Day of Unleavened Bread, then it blows up the beginning of the 1290 on Trumpets! The Eighth Head then blows up the world!!!! (RCG foretells 8 heads, not 7, as in WCG) [Note: He really locked himself into this one, so when Christ isn't here on Friday, it will blow up this new picture]
- 1:09:16 - More, very specific math and nonsensical time cycles. "The Millennium ends on the Last Day of Unleavened Bread, it's impossible to argue with it, unless the sun and moon go away. You can't argue with it! If you want to know the date the Millennium ends its April 3 3028. Dead on! [You are shocked!] I can see the blood loss in your faces, just like the ministers!
- 1:12:07 - It's a perfect picture...only the whole thing crashes if Christ doesn't come this Friday.
- 1:25:56 - How would God's messenger [David Pack] eventually know that Jesus Christ was finally coming quickly and in haste? How would he absolutely know the series is over? Simple, a hard date was shown to him that could not be breached. We finally learn how this man knew he finished his charge. He saw a giant blinking red calendar stop sign.
- 1:26:26 - If this whole picture is wrong I hope you will forgive me, since we will need to move on to some other near term date that I have no idea. So the good man of the "RCG house" would not remotely know when Christ comes as a thief and doesn't anticipate a day and neither should you.
- 1:28:40 - God streamed this concluding list through my mind without notes or the Bible. I told my staff, type this message, it was tape recorded just as I speak it, (that is also known as automatic writing) "All Israel rises [will be resurrected] this Friday night!
- 1:46:45 - It's a divine act [Dave's inspiration in Part 285], if all these prophecies are at stake, would God let me mess up? He had to just stream it into me!
- 1:49:34 - Sabat 24, is this Friday night. May we now see Christ, the kingdom, all the New Testament saints and all Israel [resurrected] in just over 4 days. If its wrong then you now understand why I kinda thought I was on to something.
For any RCG members, feel free to record these and revisit them in a couple months to see how Dave's predictions age (usually not well). Also, you could probably use the same verses/points around this time next year when he "reveals" more "Truth."
30 comments:
Dave Pack is like a 1936 Air Traffic Controller, trying to guide in a 30 seat passengers plane during the perfect storm on a remote airstrip in Kansas for emergency landing.
"Do we have visual, do we have visual??" I can hear them.
Panicking.
"Call everyone in town with a Ford motorcar and have them lined up along the (dust) runway with their lights on!"
Hysterical
"It's coming in, it's coming in!"
"Brace brace brace!"
Nck
...... Every ...... Sabbath ..... it ...... is ...... the ...... same ...... thing ....... in ........ Dave’s ........ mind ........
Lets face it Davey; JC is not coming ‘cause you say so and JC is surely not coming to Wadsworth.
I think the reason why he expects Christ to come soon is because, in his mind, the 6000 years of man's rule is over and Christ SHOULD come now or soon.
I never seen anything about 6000 years in the bible but whatever.
How does anyone stay with this guy? He needs to be in an psychiatric unit. I remember as a kid sitting in a butt numbing endless sermon by Gerald Waterhouse thinking to myself how if you were a minister and proclaimed undying loyalty to HWA that you could get away with anything. This is the end result of there not being good checks and balances regarding your ministers.
"... how Dave can speak "with God's authority," as "His messenger," deliver a 2 hour message where he claims the material comes directly from God and then it is ALL wrong."
maybe God sent him a strong delusion...
but seriously, I'm thinking Pack actually believes the stuff he says, which is very disturbing, even dangerous for his followers.
I can't imagine that there are any in The Church associated with RCG at this point.
Hi its Dee Bunker. Do you think I could get a copy of this sermon ? I would like to help.
I see Thiel just stole your post again and put it on his blog. He is such a low life weasel. He is too humiliated that he can’t stop reading this blog. His handful of followers wouldn’t appreciate the fact he reads the blog he spends so much time bitching about.
The GUESSERS (also known as the lying false prophets) in the so-called COGs usually say that things will start to happen in 3 to 5 years so that people will pay attention. Then it could go on for 10 or 15 or even 20 years. They assure people that it will not be as long as 50 years. After 50 years passes, people still listen out of force of habit, and new dates can be looked forward to. The end must be getting closer than ever now.
What Dave Pack is doing with his frantic and nearby date guesses is really just a speeded up version of what all others have always done all along.
Professional Wrestling is more believable than Pack!
Today is Ground Hog Day, and like the plot of the movie, Dave keeps repeating his nonsense, with slight tweaks each time, but the day keeps repeating itself...
At this point, I no longer feel empathy for the members who sit there and continue to believe David C. Pack's lies.
I use twist and turn in consternation at the thought of my friends still there trapped by his manipulation and his breathtaking ability to make the scriptures fit his narrative and make it seem sensible. This is the danger of men like Pack, that they are so cunning in their craft of twisting scripture. I know the source of that talent.
But every single Christian has a responsibility to rise above that "mans" ungodly fear tactics and know that at one point in the conversion process they were armed with the tools to deal with the pandemic of false prophecy, they must:
- Trust God, not man
- Work out their salvation with Godly fear and trembling
- Remember that like the Bereans they need to receive the word with all readiness of mind, and search the scriptures daily, whether those things are so. (notice it says daily-and not-prove once and stop questioning all future teaching in compliance with David C. Pack's rigid rigid doctrine explanation)
- Never forget how God handled false prophets in the past and how plainly the scripture speaks of false prophets in the future. How God encourages on the individual level the role they must play in dealing with such people. That it must not be left to the administration to handle but how it is incumbent on each individual to convict such people and deal with them according to scripture.
- Remember Jude, the warnings.
- Understand that Christ does not know the timing of events, only the Father does. What would make anyone remotely believe that David Pack is above Christ in that privilege to know?
- Never forget the Simplicity in Christ.
- If it has taken ALMOST 300 sermons to re-explain failed dates that something MUST BE WRONG!!!!
- Understand that in other areas RCG is extreme. It is highly superficial. It spends a lot of resources and time building advertising its campus but not fulfilling its commission to preach the gospel to the world. That at one point dave pack told members that having pets was a waste of money that could go to the church and yet RCG has purchased various farm animals and horses and misc. items that make no sense.
Not to worry. It's just the Parousaic "Dance" of the Apocalyptic Millerites. The Liturgy is starting up again. Slow, hypnotic but most of all repetitive. If it means something, I don't know what it is.
The only thing I can relate it to in American history is the Ghost Dance Movement among the Plains Indians in the mid-19th century. Several tribes thought Jesus was going to return and save them from the depredations of the encroaching White man. So they danced special dances that were meant to portray the spirits of resurrected Indians - referred to by White people as "ghosts." But, alas, this frontier liturgy did nothing but fire up the ire of White people who sent the cavalry to carry out another wave of genocidal destruction. Another clichéd story arc.
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"...57:18-1:06:47 - If Christ doesn't come this Friday, allowing the Father to arrive at the last Day of Unleavened Bread, then it blows up the beginning of the 1290 on Trumpets! The Eighth Head then blows up the world!!!! (RCG foretells 8 heads, not 7, as in WCG) [Note: He really locked himself into this one, so when Christ isn't here on Friday, it will blow up this new picture]..."
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If Christ comes Friday, then I will become a Mickey Mouse Millennium (MMM) believer, But Christ will not show up in Dave Pack's (or is Mr. Rogers') neighborhood on Friday.
So absurd a prophecy by Dave Pack, and it almost sounds like Bob Thiel's words, although Bob is also into believing in his own version of a MMM theory.
But of Dave Pack, like Bob Thiel? Neither one still can identify who the Beast is, so how would any of them figure out the 8 heads of the Beast?
Yes, the Beast is multi-headed: "And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns." Revelation 17:7
What scripture does Dave Pack use to show us that "the 8th head then blows up the world?" There is none showing some 8th head doing any such thing!
We know all about that 6th head: that it identifies Rome. How do we know that?
:10 "And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, [and] the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space."
The Roman Empire was in existence as the "one is" during the time John wrote that Book of Revelation.
Who are the "five are fallen?" The first one cannot be the Babylonian-Chaldean Empire, and chances are that any who still believe Babylon was #1 Empire probably also believe in that MMM. That is just another false theory: like junk food, but time will tell...
And "the other is not yet come" will eventually come as the 7th Head of the Beast. We know its name. It's Gog, but is only to continue for "a short space," but that's later.
And believe it or not, that Head does not exist or is activated until AFTER Satan is loosed from the bottomless pit...and that won't happen until over 1,000 years from now.
And there will be a 7th head/Gog before an 8th head exists!
Can Dave wait over a 1,000 years to see what some 8th head will do?
How silly can the likes of Thiel and Pack get?
Dave says: "...If Christ doesn't come this Friday, allowing the Father to arrive at the last Day of Unleavened Bread..."
Well, the Father has no plans to arrive on the LDUB, and Christ won't come to Dave Pack's, or Bob Thiel's or Mr. Rogers' neighborhood anytime during the 1440 minutes of this Friday, and ...
Time will tell...
John
In Dave Pack's speeded up version of prophetic date guessing, the money drain gets speeded up too. Instead of handing over a fortune over a period of decades or an entire lifetime, everything you have needs to be handed over to Dave right away.
That picture of the Dave Pack Clown is the best I have seen so far.
It could be made even more realistic with the addition of a couple devil horns and a devil tail.
At this point, I no longer feel empathy for the members who sit there and continue to believe David C. Pack's lies.
His remaining members may feel there is nowhere they can go. I only remember one spinoff from those who fled Dave, and that was the Vigilant COG. There are plenty of spinoffs from other groups, such as UCG and LCG. And I hear there is plenty of room for newcomers at the CCOG -- which at the moment doesn't have enough Western members to create a subsplinter [the African members appear to be multi-denominational, maybe even pluralist].
Disturbed!
@ 10:26 AM
You're right! Ugh! That is what stopped me from leaving sooner. Although all I can say now looking back is,
sometimes we may not know where to go but leaving the current situation can at least give us a starting point in a new direction.
Can't fathom how anyone with an ounce of brain matter is still believing this stuff!
Save whatever is left of your sanity and leave before it is too late. There is life and healing after the insanity of Pack's delusions!!!
The Lord shall smite thee with madness, and blindness, and astonishment of heart; and thou shalt grope at noonday, as the blind gropeth in darkness.
That was written in Deuteronomy 28:28-29. But at the endtime, there are ten virgins - blind, wretched and naked - and they are groping in the light.
I pray for these people. Saddening.
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I believe Dave is trying to change members brain chemistry with his frequent "Christ is returning in a few days" mantra. It's his way of chaining members to his cult.
David Pack-of-lies strikes again.
The Devil loves lies. Pack is one of the great satans tools
I believe Pack is suffering from bi-polar. He seems to have the flight of ideas that's one of the signs of that illness. Just read all of his latest statements. He seems to be making them in a manic state of mind. He issues one statement after another at a very rapid pace, that's very typical of someone in the grip of this terrible illness.
Agreed, the devil loves liars.
I know Mr Pack very well, He has illness of mind maybe a few demons have found a new home ?
I feel so sorry for the man, Please pray for him!
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