Exposing the underbelly of Armstrongism in all of its wacky glory! Nothing you read here is made up. What you read here is the up to date face of Herbert W Armstrong's legacy. It's the gritty and dirty behind the scenes look at Armstrongism as you have never seen it before!
With all the new crazy self-appointed Chief Overseers, Apostles, Prophets, Pharisees, legalists, and outright liars leading various Churches of God today, it is important to hold these agents of deception accountable.
Herbert Armstrong's Tangled Web of Corrupt Leaders
How Big Is Big? How Small Is Small? Crackpot Prophet Pretends To Solve That Problem
It is fun to watch the little upstart COG's constantly trying to justify how little and insignificant their groups are. With well over 12 years along for the improp[erly named "continuing" Church of "god", the growth is minuscule with its only measurable "growth" being church-hopping Sabbatarians in Africa who change church affiliations faster than American COG people do.
The littler they are the more magnificent they claim to be as God's only chosen people who are doing a "work" today.
One of Bob Thiel's Canadian acolytes did a sermon on big churches vs little churches.
Big is a relative term. When talking about God’s church, how big is big? Small is a relevant term. Using the universe as an example, everything is very small. What about the ‘day of small things’? Herb Haddon discusses not only size issues, but shows many photographs of Harvey Station, New Brunswick–the location of the headquarters of the Continuing Church of God in Canada. He also discusses worship at various churches.
Haddon looks back longingly at WCG's Canadian office and its POBox number. Box 44 supposedly had prophetic implications. Yep, Arstrongiete craziness has no end to its nuttiness.
Haddon goes on to describe the town where Bob has his Canadian "office " and proceeds to have photos of various buildings in the city from restaurants to the Post Office where he has a photo of the POBox of the greatest work the Canadians have ever seen.
Haddon then gets to pictures of neighborhood churches and proceeds to mock them all as false Christians.
Haddon then lets us in on how many TRUE Christs there are in the area. Three! Two men and one woman. Three!
This ladies and gentlemen is the face of the greatest Church of God to ever exist in human history. Preordained by God himself to arise in these perilous end times to witness to the world the dreams and fantasies of Dr. Robert Thiel. Bwana Bob is lucky if he can count on both hands the total members he has in the entire nation of Canada. And yet, we are supposed to believe that since they are so small they are doing work. What a crock of craziness!
It is a pretty strong indication from all the present Church of God and former Church of God members in Canada that Bwana Bob has been INCAPABLE of drawing these people into his little group.
Bob can brag all he wants about how little his group is and what powerful work it is doing. He is not. It's a lie meant to deceive gullible people. His filth is right up there next to Gerad Fkurry, Dave Pack, and Ron Weinland's lies.
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Any word on whether Canadian CCoG members are allowed to wear BC Lions football jerseys? Is Bob also a Debbie Downer on the CFL???
Sorry, I don't get it. Why is 44 a prophetically important number - when it doesn't appear by itself in the Bible? (144,000 does, but there's a "1" in front of the "44.")
Box 111, the P.O. Box for Pasadena, seemed closer to Biblical. Even though some might think it's a hint at Trinitarianism.
P.S. Yes, Dr. Thiel has included Canada in recent writings condemning U.S.-style football. Don't know what he thinks of rugby.
All I know is that it would actually be an improvement to his style if at the beginning of his so-called sermons, he yelled, "Trust me!!! Boogah boogah!!!!
The Legacy of Box 44 In the quiet town of Vancouver, British Columbia, during the mid-20th century, a small post office box numbered 44 was in use. It was owned by the Worldwide Church of God (WCG), a prominent religious organization of that era. This box, however, was not just a repository for letters and notifications; it was a symbol of the Church's spiritual connection and a beacon for their global community.
As the years passed, the Church faced schisms, reformation, and the rise of new organizations claiming its spiritual lineage. Among these was the Continuing Church of God (CCOG), a group that sought to uphold the doctrines and teachings of the original WCG. The CCOG established its Canadian base in Harvey Station, New Brunswick, where they procured a post office box numbered 344. It was a random assignment, but the leadership saw a divine pattern. Both the old and new post office box numbers contained the digit '44', a figure they began to perceive as a spiritual marker, a sign of continuity. The leader of the CCOG, a scholar and historian, began to research the potential significance of '44'. He discovered that 44 is a master number in numerology, often associated with business, structure, and balance. More importantly, he found that in biblical numerology, the number 4 signifies God's creative works, and the repetition of a number often emphasizes its meaning. Thus, '44' could be interpreted as a double affirmation of God's work.
The coincidence was too significant to overlook. The number 44, occurring in both the original WCG box and the current CCOG box, was seen as a divine affirmation that the CCOG was indeed the rightful spiritual successor of the WCG. It seemed to confirm their belief that they were carrying on God's work in the manner He intended, thus becoming the "Continuing" Church of God.
Word of this divine synchronicity spread quickly among the CCOG community. Members and leaders alike felt a renewed sense of purpose, their faith deepened, and their unity strengthened. The narrative of the '44' served as a powerful symbol, reinforcing their shared identity and commitment to the teachings of the original WCG.
To this day, the story of Box 44 remains a cherished part of the CCOG's legacy. The number '44' is seen as a symbol of their divine mission and an affirmation of their rightful place in the lineage of the Worldwide Church of God. But more than that, it serves as a reminder that sometimes, divine messages can be found in the most mundane of places - even in the number of a post office box.
Jesus is in all 66 books of the Bible to talk about, but Bob instead is leading them down another rabbit trail.. Great job, Bob. Satan is well pleased.
It is consistently evident that since these fake pastors do not read the Bible, do not have a prayer life, and do not know the voice of the Holy Spirit. So they create distractions where none exist. They find fault with people in the room, attack their community, and make up shit. They are so boring, so judgemental, so arrogant. There is nothing to take notes on.
Look up on YouTube "11 YEAR OLD BOY REVEALS JESUS IN EVERY BOOK OF THE BIBLE.". 4 or 5 minutes long. He has a red shirt on. That is what a real pastor looks like.
44? My number "26" is assigned to me at work which I didn't ask for. I looked up the Bible meaning of the #26. It is way, way better than 44. "26 is the geometric # being the sum of the Hebrew characters the name of the God of Israel YHWH." I know God considers me VERY, VERY special giving me HIS OWN NAME on my walkie talkie.
People who want to "know the truth" should be all over my #26. Bring your notebook. If you disagree with anything I say, I am sorry, but you just aren't called at this time to know the truth. So š¢š
And if anyone ever tells you."It is insulting to the speaker not to bring a notebook & paper.", that is treating the people disrespectfully belittling them like children. It also is a reflection on the speaker that he is boring and has no insite or revelation.
Now, comes the hard part. Why have they not gone viral? They've had sufficient time. Everybody secretly knows that the blessed group, the one with the mantle for which everyone still in the Armstrong movement is secretly waiting, has not as yet emerged. Splinter members go along with their little leaders who lie with statistics in an attempt to demonstrate that their splinter is the true successor, but none has reached the point at which they are doing a great and powerful work, are now creating noticeable street buzz, and growing at a true and verifiable rate of 30% per year. That sort of visibility and growth was only happening on a local, national basis in Jamaica, until its leader who actually became a friend and regular contributor to this blog, suddenly died. I was not about to join up, but Ian actually confessed the past sins of Armstrongism, and had made an effort to reform the movement because he felt that the basic theology was valid. Others have also recognized the past and current sins, but are not even close to emerging as the rightful successor to HWA.
Metaphorically speaking, the big question when HWA died (and no small number of people were of the opinion that he had actually emotionally left his own church by that point in time) was "What are you going to do, now that the roast beef is gone???" People began to wonder, "Where's the beef?" So far, it has not been found. All that seems available is something that used to be served up in the AC Student Center, which was artificial, plant-based crab meat which was popular amongst the Seventh Day Adventists, many of whom are vegetarian. One would imagine, that in these days of PETA, and climate change due in part to methane in bovine belches, that artificial meats would be taking over. The funny thing is that more people speak of artificial meat than they do of Armstrongism. However, despite the demands of its impotent leaders that members support them or will be denied salvation itself, or maybe because that is what they devolved into preaching, none of them are going viral with their way of life which is supposed (according to their traditions) to bring tremendous blessings to the compliant ones. People throw around the term "Laodicean". I don't believe in the extrabiblical theory of church eras, but if anything, it seems more like dead old "Sardis" to me.
Only Bob sees himself as a "big man", when in reality, everyone else sees him as the smallest man in the room. He is soooo desperate to be seen as a prophet and God's guy doing a great work, that he has imagined himself just like that. The fantasy and the realty do not match up. He has imagined himself a church leader, imagined himself a prophet, imagined his dreams have biblical/prophetic implications, imagined he understands the entirety of Scripture and imagined people would flock to his church. If he genuinely had a double portion of the Holy Spirit, he would, in fact, be leading the biggest mega church the world over, teaching orthodox Christian doctrines. The churches would be bursting at the seams, he would have millions of members and be a household name. Instead, the reality is that Bob has <150 members, nobody outside of his family and friends know who he is, he teaches heretical doctrines and nobody is beating his door down to get in.
The bottom line is that Bob sees himself and the world through the lens of Armstrongism, not reality. He doesn't even see the incredible irony that his worldview comes from another little man, who desperately wanted to be a big man, HWA. Reality will never match his fantasy, whether he admits it or not.
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Any word on whether Canadian CCoG members are allowed to wear BC Lions football jerseys? Is Bob also a Debbie Downer on the CFL???
Sorry, I don't get it. Why is 44 a prophetically important number - when it doesn't appear by itself in the Bible? (144,000 does, but there's a "1" in front of the "44.")
Box 111, the P.O. Box for Pasadena, seemed closer to Biblical. Even though some might think it's a hint at Trinitarianism.
P.S. Yes, Dr. Thiel has included Canada in recent writings condemning U.S.-style football. Don't know what he thinks of rugby.
Bob is spiritually drunk on the fornication of the harlot of Revelation 13.
All I know is that it would actually be an improvement to his style if at the beginning of his so-called sermons, he yelled, "Trust me!!! Boogah boogah!!!!
@Feastgoer 3:17,
The Legacy of Box 44
In the quiet town of Vancouver, British Columbia, during the mid-20th century, a small post office box numbered 44 was in use. It was owned by the Worldwide Church of God (WCG), a prominent religious organization of that era. This box, however, was not just a repository for letters and notifications; it was a symbol of the Church's spiritual connection and a beacon for their global community.
As the years passed, the Church faced schisms, reformation, and the rise of new organizations claiming its spiritual lineage. Among these was the Continuing Church of God (CCOG), a group that sought to uphold the doctrines and teachings of the original WCG.
The CCOG established its Canadian base in Harvey Station, New Brunswick, where they procured a post office box numbered 344. It was a random assignment, but the leadership saw a divine pattern. Both the old and new post office box numbers contained the digit '44', a figure they began to perceive as a spiritual marker, a sign of continuity.
The leader of the CCOG, a scholar and historian, began to research the potential significance of '44'. He discovered that 44 is a master number in numerology, often associated with business, structure, and balance. More importantly, he found that in biblical numerology, the number 4 signifies God's creative works, and the repetition of a number often emphasizes its meaning. Thus, '44' could be interpreted as a double affirmation of God's work.
The coincidence was too significant to overlook. The number 44, occurring in both the original WCG box and the current CCOG box, was seen as a divine affirmation that the CCOG was indeed the rightful spiritual successor of the WCG. It seemed to confirm their belief that they were carrying on God's work in the manner He intended, thus becoming the "Continuing" Church of God.
Word of this divine synchronicity spread quickly among the CCOG community. Members and leaders alike felt a renewed sense of purpose, their faith deepened, and their unity strengthened. The narrative of the '44' served as a powerful symbol, reinforcing their shared identity and commitment to the teachings of the original WCG.
To this day, the story of Box 44 remains a cherished part of the CCOG's legacy. The number '44' is seen as a symbol of their divine mission and an affirmation of their rightful place in the lineage of the Worldwide Church of God.
But more than that, it serves as a reminder that sometimes, divine messages can be found in the most mundane of places - even in the number of a post office box.
Jesus is in all 66 books of the Bible to talk about, but Bob instead is leading them down another rabbit trail.. Great job, Bob. Satan is well pleased.
It is consistently evident that since these fake pastors do not read the Bible, do not have a prayer life, and do not know the voice of the Holy Spirit. So they create distractions where none exist. They find fault with people in the room, attack their community, and make up shit. They are so boring, so judgemental, so arrogant. There is nothing to take notes on.
Look up on YouTube "11 YEAR OLD BOY REVEALS JESUS IN EVERY BOOK OF THE BIBLE.". 4 or 5 minutes long.
He has a red shirt on. That is what a real pastor looks like.
Herb Haddon is married, so that is probably his wife shown in the picture. So other than this couple, the congregation consists of ONE PERSON!
People historically in the COG are very superstitious about numbers. Heck, people even used to memorize their "Plain Truth" subscription number!
44? My number "26" is assigned to me at work which I didn't ask for.
I looked up the Bible meaning of the #26. It is way, way better than 44.
"26 is the geometric # being the sum of the Hebrew characters the name of the God of Israel YHWH." I know God considers me VERY, VERY special giving me HIS OWN NAME on my walkie talkie.
People who want to "know the truth"
should be all over my #26. Bring your notebook. If you disagree with anything I say, I am sorry, but you just aren't called at this time to know the truth. So š¢š
And if anyone ever tells you."It is insulting to the speaker not to bring a notebook & paper.", that is treating the people disrespectfully belittling them like children. It also is a reflection on the speaker that he is boring and has no insite or revelation.
That's very nice, 5:49. I am happy for them.
Now, comes the hard part. Why have they not gone viral? They've had sufficient time. Everybody secretly knows that the blessed group, the one with the mantle for which everyone still in the Armstrong movement is secretly waiting, has not as yet emerged. Splinter members go along with their little leaders who lie with statistics in an attempt to demonstrate that their splinter is the true successor, but none has reached the point at which they are doing a great and powerful work, are now creating noticeable street buzz, and growing at a true and verifiable rate of 30% per year. That sort of visibility and growth was only happening on a local, national basis in Jamaica, until its leader who actually became a friend and regular contributor to this blog, suddenly died. I was not about to join up, but Ian actually confessed the past sins of Armstrongism, and had made an effort to reform the movement because he felt that the basic theology was valid. Others have also recognized the past and current sins, but are not even close to emerging as the rightful successor to HWA.
Metaphorically speaking, the big question when HWA died (and no small number of people were of the opinion that he had actually emotionally left his own church by that point in time) was "What are you going to do, now that the roast beef is gone???" People began to wonder, "Where's the beef?" So far, it has not been found. All that seems available is something that used to be served up in the AC Student Center, which was artificial, plant-based crab meat which was popular amongst the Seventh Day Adventists, many of whom are vegetarian. One would imagine, that in these days of PETA, and climate change due in part to methane in bovine belches, that artificial meats would be
taking over. The funny thing is that more people speak of artificial meat than they do of Armstrongism. However, despite the demands of its impotent leaders that members support them or will be denied salvation itself, or maybe because that is what they devolved into preaching, none of them are going viral with their way of life which is supposed (according to their traditions) to bring tremendous blessings to the compliant ones. People throw around the term "Laodicean". I don't believe in the extrabiblical theory of church eras, but if anything, it seems
more like dead old "Sardis" to me.
Only Bob sees himself as a "big man", when in reality, everyone else sees him as the smallest man in the room. He is soooo desperate to be seen as a prophet and God's guy doing a great work, that he has imagined himself just like that. The fantasy and the realty do not match up. He has imagined himself a church leader, imagined himself a prophet, imagined his dreams have biblical/prophetic implications, imagined he understands the entirety of Scripture and imagined people would flock to his church. If he genuinely had a double portion of the Holy Spirit, he would, in fact, be leading the biggest mega church the world over, teaching orthodox Christian doctrines. The churches would be bursting at the seams, he would have millions of members and be a household name. Instead, the reality is that Bob has <150 members, nobody outside of his family and friends know who he is, he teaches heretical doctrines and nobody is beating his door down to get in.
The bottom line is that Bob sees himself and the world through the lens of Armstrongism, not reality. He doesn't even see the incredible irony that his worldview comes from another little man, who desperately wanted to be a big man, HWA. Reality will never match his fantasy, whether he admits it or not.
You gotta wear Green and support rough riders.
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