Saturday, July 19, 2025

Dave Pack: Jesus Christ returns on Monday, August 4, 2025. I did not set this date, the material did.

 

A Case of the Mondays

Despite David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God recently announcing (kinda) that “no man knows the day or hour” and that he “could never offer you any other date,” he just cannot help himself. During “The Greatest Untold Story! (Part 583)” on July 12, 2025, the Pastor General taught that the date that cannot tarry when the Kingdom of God arrives will be Av 10 in 2025.

The Kingdom of God
Arrives on Monday, Av 10
August 4, 2025

One of the deciding factors for why this particular day is more correct than the previous 131 dates is that it is a Monday. Yes, Mondays are again a big deal in The Restored Church of God. It cannot be a mere coincidence that Av 10 lands on a Monday this year, setting prophetic events into motion, revealing itself to be the day that cannot tarry.

Dave tried to make Av 10 work in 2022.

Dave tried to make Av 10 work in 2023.

Dave snuck out early to get appetizers at Chotchkie’s in 2024.

Dave is trying to make Av 10 work in 2025.

You know how the classic saying goes: “If at first you don’t succeed, keep repeating the same mistakes without accountability.”

Flashback Part 468 – September 9, 2023
@ 1:20:22 
We just learned Av 10. So, how many years we gonna wait? …It would only be true in the first yearafter we learned it because that’s the only way we could receive it.

Dave considers people who quote him back his enemies. It is a good thing that Jesus Christ did not have that same philosophy.

David C. Pack is suffering from a biblical case of the Mondays despite how Mike Judge portrayed it.



David C. Pack is not a bungling idiot. He may be a documented hypocritical, blaspheming liar, false teacher, false apostle, and false prophet, but he is not stupid. After telling members that no man knows the day and hour for the return of Jesus Christ, his carnal mind found a way around that biblical inconvenience by denying he is doing precisely what he is doing.

David C. Pack is a kid with his hand in the cookie jar, looking you right in the eyes, telling you his hand is not in the cookie jar. Instead of just announcing Av 10 with the plain boldness, Dave plays mind games by gaslighting brethren to manufacture the illusion of plausible deniability.


Part 583 – July 12, 2025
@ 00:20 
I didn't speak last week because I was on the verge of really putting together something that gelled through the week.

This quote is being publicly documented because I anticipate Dave admitting he did not speak due to an illness, and not his devotion to accurate Bible study. The day that admission comes, remember that I am just an unordained non-prophet/non-psychic.

@ 00:55 But each thing sits till the idea or plan fully gels. Now, a date's been percolating since May and really much longer…

Av 10 has been percolating since 2022.

@ 01:24 Now, I'm not setting a date. I'm presenting an immensely powerful pile of evidence for examination.

Dave is presenting a pile, all right.

The Pastor General claims he is not setting a date during the introduction to alleviate the brethren’s discomfort and to create a talking point for apologists when confronted by curious family members.

David C. Pack is now a biblical gooner, relegated to engaging in prophetic edging.

@ 01:24 Now, I'm not setting a date. I'm presenting an immensely powerful pile of evidence for examination. Think of it that way. Much stronger, much stronger than Tammuz 5 two weeks ago.

How do you quantify what is stronger than worthless? Less worthless is still worthless. Dave presents broken logic with a straight face and adds to it as if it were not laughable.

01:55 Two weeks ago, I said endless possibilities and scenarios have existed for when the Kingdom would come. But eventually, out of the fog, smoke, mist, confusion, sound, fury, and noise for ten years, there must arise a day. One date that cannot tarry, that's simply unassailable from every angle.

Av 10 will shortly prove to be very assailable.

Dave dismantles his own point in 3…2…1…

@ 02:19 Now, I used that to set up Tammuz 5, which was a very strong possibility, and then told you, I I didn't think it was Tammuz 5. And since I haven't spoken since then, Tammuz 5 came 12 days ago, and it was not Tammuz 5. 

Dave has bizarrely convinced himself that his aborted Tammuz 5 teaching will somehow encourage brethren to buy his stronger malarkey about Av 10.

Dave claims victory in the face of failure in 3…2…1…

@ 22:31 And then I told you, I don't believe it's gonna happen. And it didn't. And I said that two weeks ago, and Tammuz 5 came 12 days ago. It didn't happen. All right. Fine. It didn't happen. It was a Tuesday. I I the case looked strong, but I knew something else was at play.

Presenting a strong case for something he did not believe and did not happen is not a flex he should be proud of. This is a screaming red flag ex cathedra that brethren continue ignoring.

@ 03:03 Many facts and bits of information exist, but they would not cohere. If I use that word. To present a day that would rise like this, you know, colossus and and and not delay. A simple in some ways, when I'm done with it, it'll be very simple. Final picture sort of emerged or reemerged, but with some slightly different timing, and also this time with more and clearer proof.

Abundance and clarity have never been the issue. Accuracy is what will forever escape him. Being true is a bar too high for David C. Pack to ever reach.

Remember how he started in light of what he said afterward and what he continues to say in Part 583. 

@ 01:24 Now, I'm not setting a date.

Really? To further his cowardice, Dave adopts a Pontius Pilate approach to wash himself of all prophetic responsibility.

@ 01:42 If a date is set, the material will do it. Not me.

Matthew 27:24
When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing, but that rather a tumult was made, he took water, and washed hishands before the multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person: see you to it.

If a date forms in the minds of the RCG brethren during Part 583, Dave is not at fault.

The WCG saying, "Don't believe me, believe your Bible," is now "Don't blame me, blame your Bible."

If any future disappointments or frustrations manifest due to the failure of Av 10, RCG brethren can now just blame the Bible. And Mondays.



Dave’s fixation on an 84-month Kingdom, the destruction of both Jerusalem temples on Av 10, and the significance of Mondays leads RCG brethren down a familiar path of random circumstances amounting to nothing.

@ 18:32 …I'm gonna divulge in not too long what I believe is the date we're waiting for.

Stop

David C. Pack has a terrible habit of undermining his own words by disproving and invalidating himself.

@ 01:42 If a date is set, the material will do it. Not me.

@ 18:32 I'm gonna divulge in not too long what I believe is the date we're waiting for.

Well, which is it?

Whether it involves eagles, rainbows, prophetic fog, biblical COVID, or a land sabbath, David C. Pack hammers the importance of whatever he fancies in the moment. Brethren clinging to the hope that “Mr. Pack only has to be right once" must have gotten super excited because this will all go down on a Monday.

For the rest of eternity, having the case of the Mondays will be a good thing.

@ 27:40 Nothing compares to this date. And it is Monday. Sunday night, Monday, Av 10. It's Monday, Av 10. It is simply a titanic, all-consuming date in Jewish history and in Israel's history. We're going to learn a lot more about it. It's such a terrible date because two temples, two temples were actually destroyed on that date.

@ 33:46 And again, remember, Av 10 is a Monday. Monday is also going to be extremely important.

He caught a scorching case of the Mondays because he mentioned it 32 times during Part 583.

David C. Pack will never learn his lesson about coincidences, but insists on making them relevant.

@ 48:05 It's the second day. …and if you this is a coincidence, then so be it. It is the third day of August. That's a coincidence. Well, then it is.

@ 58:27 You can't tell us this day and not tell us which one you're talking about. Well, now, we can call it a coincidence. Remember, I'm just presenting facts. But it's tied directly this day, this day twice in this book, twice to Av 10. So what do I do with that? What do you do with it? Coincidence?

Do not be fooled. David C. Pack is not “just presenting facts.” He is teaching prophecy in a manner that leads the audience to share his conclusion. He is laying a foundation of plausible deniability, like he did with Tammuz 5.

If Tammuz 5 had popped biblically, Dave would be crowing through all eternity about how he figured it out, while explaining away his public denials.

@ 1:19:08 But my job here now is is to is to underscore this extraordinary date that is now emerging again and again.

@ 1:28:34 The initial captivity 25 years ago and the destruction of Jerusalem 14 years ago, 11 years apart with the 7th year in there also highlighting Av 10. They're all Av 10. Years are being counted as Av 10. It says “from the beginning of the head of the year.” Av 10 is considered a year by God.

@ 1:32:04 And we’re waiting for the center, the center of a year, the midst the midst of the year. What year’s in the middle of the summer? It's not in the middle of a coor–group of coordinates of months, as I thought a few weeks ago. It has to be Av 10. There is no other there is no other summer summer a a year that begins.

Before anyone else catches a case of the Mondays, remember what David C. Pack said to start his Av 10 proofs:

@ 01:24 Now, I'm not setting a date.

@ 01:42 If a date is set, the material will do it. Not me.



Before brethren of The Restored Church of God get all excited, they would do well to remember the Av 10 banner was waved over their heads back in 2023 when Dave said he would never move from it.


Flashback Part 460 – July 22, 2023
@ 1:25:54 So, Message 460, that beats 459, is the ration that tells RCG, the house, the day. Now, it took a long time to learn a plain date where I could never come to another one. I could never come to another one. You could never. There's no way. What would I say next week? “Sorry, you know, set aside Av 10. Just blow it off. It was a mistake. Let's just keep going.”

That is exactly what he did in 2023. Do not be fooled. He will do it again in 2025.

Av 10 begins on Sunday, August 3, at sunset.
Wadsworth Sunset: 8:40pm EST
Jerusalem Sunset: 7:33pm (12:33pm EST)

David C. Pack will abandon Av 10 soon and shift his focus to not setting another date by letting the material do it for him. The brethren of The Restored Church of God will not need to wait until August 4 to catch a case of the Mondays.



Marc Cebrian

7 comments:

Anonymous said...

Ok, Dave! I'm bankin' on this! Really basing my life on it! If Jesus does not come back on Monday Aug 4, I will call the Mafia on you!

Anonymous said...

Hey Dave, I have a dentist appointment on the 4th August.
Can ya change the date to at least get me teeth seen too.
Tanks for dat.

Anonymous said...

This Dave guy should be President. He knows how to play a crowd and string them along indefinitely.

Anonymous said...

You know, it really depends on how much of the wine of Armstrongism that one drinks of. Pack has the unlimited supply.

Anonymous said...

Maybe this is a silly or stupid question, but perhaps someone who's been involved with Pack can help me understand the answer: WHY IS IT IMPORTANT TO KNOW THE DATE OF CHRIST'S RETURN?

Christians are expected to be found "so doing" when their Savior returns. Therefore, someone whose conduct changes depending on whether Christ will return on August 4 or Trumpets 2025 or National Frog Day isn't actually a Christian. Obsessing over the date of Christ's return is pretty solid proof that the obsessive person isn't a Christian, whether the obsessive person is announcing the date or accepting the announcement.

OK, maybe when you are new in the faith you'll put together everything you think you know and will come to expect a return date. But that date shouldn't make or break your faith, and after you've been wrong a couple of times you should by then have learned your lesson and just gone about the business of FOLLOWING Jesus Christ, not holding him to your timetable.

Pack and his followers may have become an interesting curiosity. But they very plainly aren't following Christ, and haven't been for quite some time.

Feastgoer said...

This would put Jesus's return on the birthday of President Barack Obama.

Coincidence???

(It also happens to be a Monday "banking holiday" in parts of Canada.)

Anonymous said...

How can this guy have any members left after so, so, so many failed efforts to predict the date of Christ's return???