Blinded By The Liars

Prophet Thiel has another entry today condemning various non-COG false prophets that have been uttered stupid predictions over the last few years.  He points out all their foibles while promoting his cultic book that is supposed to have all the answers.

He can rightly discern that these men are liars and false prophets, yet, he is blinded to the fact he follows one of Armstrongism's biggest liars and false prophets, Roderick C Meredith. Meredith has uttered  many damnable lies over the decades that have been publicly exposed over and over.  Yet, Prophet Thiel turns a blind eye to them, just as he refused to acknowledge the lies of Herbert Armstrong, Herman Hoeh, Dean Blackwell, Gerald Waterhouse and others.

They still gloss over the fact that Herbert Armstrong and Roderick Meredith lied in the early 70's when they said that we would be fleeing to Petra by 1972.  They lied that famine, disease and pestilence would destroy the nation in 1975.  They lied over and over and still today they have followers who deny they ever uttered a false prophecy. 

Thiel writes:

On January 2, 2011, in an article titled False Predictions for 2011 I had denounced several false predictions for 2011.
The false prediction with the largest following was Harold Egbert Camping of Family Radio.  And I stated that the following were some of his predictions which would be proven false in late May and October of 2011:

As we have noted, God further solidifies or locks in this date, May 21, 2011, by placing the day of shutting the door, when the rapture will occur, on the 17th day of the second month of the Biblical calendar. Significantly, the number 17 links perfectly to the fact of the rapture because spiritually, the number 17 signifies heaven. Moreover, the number 2 (second month) spiritually identifies with those who have been commissioned to bring the Gospel. Is it not amazing that they will be raptured on the 17th day of the second month? Is that coincidental? We also have learned that the last day of the earth’s existence, October 21, 2011, is the 23rd day of the seventh month of the Biblical calendar. The number 23 normally signifies God’s wrath being poured out. The number 7 (seventh month) signifies the perfect fulfillment of God’s purposes. Could this also be coincidental, that the final completion of God’s punishment on the unsaved occurs in the seventh month on a day that features the number 23, which is a number that completely identifies with God’s wrath, thus signifying God’s perfect wrath on the unsaved? (Camping H. We are Almost There! 2008 edition, p. 61-62)

Jesus did not return on May 21, 2011 nor did the world end on October 21, 2011.  Tens of thousands read my long article about him titled Harold Camping’s Teachings About the End of the World Do Not Agree with the Bible.

Then in true COG fashion, Prophet Thiel pulls a Dave Pack rabbit out of the air to promote his new book.  Dave Pack has the worlds largest and best web site on "the truth" while Prophet Thiel has the worlds most important and ONLY book currently dealing with false prophecies.  It is the worlds best documented book on the topic.

Those who seriously would like to compare various predictions and how they align (or in certain cases do not align) with Bible prophecy should check out my book 2012 and the Rise of the Secret Sect as it seems to be the most documented book on the market to do so (also world events have already aligned with at least 20 predictions that it contains, with none shown to be false).

It just goes to show that Prophet Thiel is as big of a liar as his spiritual leader Roderick C Meredith is.

Lying : A Cooperative Act

Think of the Church of God as you hear this.  While it is not directed towards the liars in religion, it very well could be.  The Church of God has been founded upon lies.  From Herbert Armstrong's dealings with the COG7th Day, in his writings in his autobiography and into his literal readings of scriptures. From Rod Meredith, Weinland's and Pack's absurd prophecies to the lying drunkard in Edmond Oklahoma.  Lying has always been part of our culture in the COG's and still is to this day.

Dr. Bob Concerned That Potential Suicides in 2012 Will Result In Lower Income For LCG

Chiropractor/naturopath/COG apologist/author, and all around important person is worried that the chance of increased suicides in 2012 because of idiot false prophets will cause a drop in LCG income and the prohibition of LCG preaching it's warning to the world. (One can only hope.....!) 

French Worried About 2012 Suicides: A Prelude to Interference of the Work?

 The Mayan 2012 flood prophecy will be proven false.  But 2012 will affect the world in ways that most who have discussed it publicly have not mentioned.

 While I have many concerns about the ramifications of the December 21, 2012 prediction (including an increase in prophetic scoffers, see 2 Peter 3:3-9, when the world does not end then), a relatively new one (for me) is that if there are massive suicides or other disturbances, this may result in governments calling for restrictions on making “end of the world” predictions.  This is especially feasible as in Malawi someone was arrested this year for pushing Harold Camping’s May 21, 2011 rapture date (see Arrest in Malawi and Stroke for Harold Camping).

This type of government action may restrict the ability of the Living Church of God to get its warning message out just prior to the start of the Great Tribulation.  Yet, for a short while it appears that we will get a lot of notice, and do the “short work”.  The late LCG evangelist John Ogwyn wrote:

God states clearly: “He will finish the work and cut it short in righteousness” (Romans 9:28). Who will He use to do it? According to Daniel 11:32 it is “the people who know their God [that] shall be strong, and carry out great exploits.”
… Today, the Living Church of God continues to do the Work of God, proclaiming the true Gospel to a world spiraling toward destruction.  (Ogwyn J. God’s Church Through the Ages.  LCG booklet, p. 58)

We in the Church of God have tended to believe that something would stop our organized ability to proclaim biblical truths including prophetic ones:

I have personally believed that when people like I explain who the final King of the North is and that he (who many will believe is an ally of the USA and UK) will actually invade and destroy the USA and UK, that I and others in the Living Church of God may be accused of treason, hate speech, or some technical violation of some rule in order to prevent our right to proclaim the truth.

With US FCC “net neutrality” rules (which they were approved to start to use in late 2010), Malawi’s arrest, and the French government’s public concerns, we are getting close to that time when governments will be too offended by the truth and some will take steps to stop it from being proclaimed.

The organized work may be stopped by government officials (like on the internet, television, etc.) and persecutions began because people of the holy covenant are warning the world of the results of their sins (which they will not want pointed out) and teaching that the King of the North is fulfilling these prophecies in Daniel 11. The faithful may be saying things that are not “politically correct” to the point that one or more governments will take action.

And if there are problems caused by the failed 2012 prophecies, governments (including the USA one) will feel more justified to taking steps to prevent small groups (like the Living Church of God) preaching the truth about the gospel of the kingdom and the end of the world as we know it.  The French statements may be a step that will lead to that.

Does all this mean I will miss the Olympics?  :-)

48 Hours Left Before the End-times Hits May 21, 6:00 p.m.

 

There is a little over 48 hours left before you can kiss your a....family goodbye.  Do you have your Petra Pack ready?  


Harold Camping has predicted the beginning of the end-times on Saturday, May 21st at 6:00 p.m. exactly..  He and his little band of idiots will be raptured off to heaven while Flurry and his little band of idiots will still be waiting in Edmond.


People have sold their houses, their businesses and left families in order to prepare for this great day.  What is going to happen at 6:05 p.m. Saturday night when they are still sitting on their sofa's? Will Jesus have delayed his coming yet again because people just were NOT ready?


That is what HWA blamed the church for in 1972 when the world did not end according to his plan.  It was the membership's fault because they were not ready!  Gerald Flurry, the certified dingbat Armstrongite in Edmond, OK has predicted the end-times several times now.  They are still parked on their sorry asses in Oklahoma.  Rod Meredith has made so many predictions over the decades that no one pays attention to his silliness anymore.  Well, may Bob Thiel does.  But even Thiel has made his own silly predictions.  2012 anyone?


Harold is just one more in a long line of ministers who are delusional liars.  Sunday, May 22 will prove him wrong.  Camping is a false prophet just like Armstrong, Meredith, Hoeh, Blackwell, Flurry, Cox, Pack, Weinland, and Steven's.


Below are just a few of HWA's and Meredith's false prophecies:

1964 Coworkers letter: "only 7 years before H-bomb warfare breaks out"

Feb 1965: by Meredith: "documented proof Hitler did not die in his bunker"

Nov 30, 1963, coworkers letter: "we have only eight years to finish the Work"; Nov 22, 1963, coworkers letter: "in eight years all of our ministers will be silenced" - religious persecution on WWCG

13 Dec 1965, HWA in co-workers letter: "We are in the grand smash climax - only 6 years left."

1959 PT: "Doom for US within 10-15 years

1934 PT: "Christ will return in 1936

1940 PT: "Christ will come after 3.5 years of tribulation in October 43

 1960's PT repeatedly claimed 1972 would be the year of Christ's coming

 after 1969: HWA claimed it would be 1975

Gerald Waterhouse continually: if HWA died, God would destroy the world

through 1960's/70's until 1978 in coworkers letters: he & GTA will be two witnesses Zerubbabel and Joshua

January 1955 PT: hoeh: "We face a national catastrophe by 1975.. . we will be totally consumed and carried away captive to other nations as slaves within twenty years." No.

"Why has God called so many construction workers, plumbers and electricians into HIS Church? It is because we are going to build a city for Him in Petra during the three and a half years the Church is protected from Tribulation." - Carn Catherwood at Feast sites as late as the late 1980s.

If Herbert Armstrong dies before the Coming of Christ, he will sleep until the Coming and then be the top ruler of the world under only Christ himself.

It was Hoeh's 1950s "calculations in that ludicrous "Compendium" which convinced him, and, for at least 15 years, Herbert, that Christ would return in 1975 and that the three and a half years of Tribulation would therefore start at Passover 1972.    

1982 Coworkers letter: (for those who claim he mellowed with the years) "I hope to arrange for the use of Petra as a possible refuge or place of safety during the Great Tribulation when I see King Hussein. Pray for this please."      

For more of Herbert W Armstrong's failed prophecies click on this link:

Herbert W Armstrong's 209 Failed Prophecies 

New Government In Canada A Sure Sign Of The Endtimes

Bob Thiel, apologist extraordinaire for Spanky Meredith, has made another prediction.  You would think after the hundreds of failed prophecies and predictions made by Rod Meredith that Thiel would learn to control his tongue.  But no. 

Thiel says that the current shake up in the Canadian government is a sure sign that we are close to the end times.  Canada is set to suffer horrendous persecution according to Armstrongite mythology with invading German armies, meathooks, concentration camps and torture galore.

Or will it be the Chinese?  Or the Muslims?  Armstrongism has been filled with all kinds of deadly scenarios in the last few years.

How might Stephen Harper help fulfill Bible prophecy?  But here are some key points to consider:

1. We are getting close to the end of God’s 6.000 years for humans to rule themselves their way in Satan’s world.
2. Canada will experience the great tribulation (Matthew 24:21, the time of Jacob’s trouble (Jeremiah 30:7).
3. Because of the timing of him being in office, Stephen Harper’s very presence (as well as his planned and unplanned actions) should be enough to enable the fulfillment of various end-time prophecies.
4. Getting the majority government he wanted, means that he will have more influence than he has had so far in office.

Despite having natural resources and many overseas international trading partners, because of its geographic location, its economic history, and what is recorded in biblical prophecy, Canada is tied in with the United States of America.

To a great degree, Canada is expected to share the fate of the USA, which ultimately will not be good.