Saturday, April 14, 2018

Spiritual But Not Religious?

I have always said that religion is what others pour into your head about their vision of how it all is and how you should practice it.  Spirituality is an inside job.  I have also found that religion is not fond of spiritual people.  They don' go along to get along. Rigid views are often considered just current opinions that will mellow and change as new information reveals itself.  They don't always show up when and where they are told to and give and support something however they choose or do not choose.  A dog can be trained well.  You can't herd cats.


The Jesus of the Gospel of Thomas, a Gospel that did not make the cut for obvious reasons said:


Nag Hammadi Coptic Text
Oxyrhynchus Greek Fragment

1 [2]. Jesus says: "Let him who seeks cease not to seek until he finds: when he finds he will be astonished; and when he is astonished he will wonder, and will reign over the universe!"

Jesus said, "If those who lead you say to you, 'See, the kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the kingdom is inside of you, and it is outside of you. When you come to know yourselves, then you will become known, and you will realize that it is you who are the sons of the living father. But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty."


For the United Church of God rebuttal to the Gospel of Thomas and to understand why it did not make the cut see:

 

Continuing...

"Spiritual but not religious" (SBNR) is a popular phrase and initialism used to self-identify a life stance of spirituality that takes issue with organized religion as the sole or most valuable means of furthering spiritual growth.

"Spirituality begins with a reverence for the ordinary that can lead us to insights and experiences that are anything but ordinary."
Sam Harris


The increasing prestige of the sciences, the insights of modern biblical scholarship, and greater awareness of cultural relativism all made it more difficult for educated American to sustain unqualified loyalty to religious institutions. Many began to associate genuine faith with the "private" realm of personal experience rather than with the "public" realm of institutions, creeds, and rituals. The word spiritual gradually came to be associated with a private realm of thought and experience while the word religious came to be connected with the public realm of membership in religious institutions, participation in formal rituals, and adherence to official denominational doctrines.
Read more at http://www.beliefnet.com/entertainment/books/2002/07/spiritual-but-not-religious.aspx#bgAJmQqbqGk23lSd.99


The increasing prestige of the sciences, the insights of modern biblical scholarship, and greater awareness of cultural relativism all made it more difficult for educated American to sustain unqualified loyalty to religious institutions. Many began to associate genuine faith with the "private" realm of personal experience rather than with the "public" realm of institutions, creeds, and rituals. The word spiritual gradually came to be associated with a private realm of thought and experience while the word religious came to be connected with the public realm of membership in religious institutions, participation in formal rituals, and adherence to official denominational doctrines.
Read more at http://www.beliefnet.com/entertainment/books/2002/07/spiritual-but-not-religious.aspx#bgAJmQqbqGk23lS

The increasing prestige of the sciences, the insights of modern biblical scholarship, and greater awareness of cultural relativism all made it more difficult for educated American to sustain unqualified loyalty to religious institutions. Many began to associate genuine faith with the "private" realm of personal experience rather than with the "public" realm of institutions, creeds, and rituals. The word spiritual gradually came to be associated with a private realm of thought and experience while the word religious came to be connected with the public realm of membership in religious institutions, participation in formal rituals, and adherence to official denominational doctrines.
Read more at http://www.beliefnet.com/entertainment/books/2002/07/spiritual-but-not-religious.aspx#bgAJmQqbqGk23lSd
Mark Vernon author of How To Be an Agnostic notes...
"People associate religious institutions with constraining doctrines, and bad things that are done in the world. That may be outright fundamentalism, the oppression of women or some kind of conflict with liberal values."
Science has replaced God for many today, Vernon suggests.
But while science may be able to explain the world, it doesn't evoke how many people feel about their place in the universe.
Awe and wonder is how spiritual people often describe their relationship with the world. There's a sense that life is more than pounds and pence, of work, childcare and the rest of the daily grind.
A typical Portland sunrise along the Willamette River from the beach where I spend a few minutes each day before work.  
There are moments that seem transcendent in their lives - a beautiful sunset, a football crowd filling a stadium with noise, or a moving piece of music.
Oliver Burkeman, author of The Antidote, says the phrase "spiritual but not religious" has become a bit of a joke. But the concept is worth defending. "Spirituality I take to refer to things that are not expressible in words. There's an aspect of human experience that is non-conceptual."
It's about more than belief, Burkeman says. Just as for Christians and other religions, it is the practice of worship that is as important as the belief, he argues.

It doesn't mean the nonsense of "3-5, 10 at the most, 20 tops" and the endless game of thinking anyone knows or can know the future.  Prophecy is  the hook and insanity of the Churches of God. Without it, they would have no way of  trying to turn the spiritually minded into religious followers. 
Buyer beware...regrets to follow

"Gaetan Louis de Canonville practices mindfulness meditation in Richmond, south London. "We're not worshipping a God or paying homage to something in the sky. It's about learning to accept things like impermanence and living in the moment. If you get a glimpse of how happy you can be by embracing the moment, all the chattering of your thoughts stops."
Mike Stygal, is a secondary school teacher who practices paganism in his private life. He believes in a divine force in nature. "I believe everything is connected, I feel very in touch with nature and the changing seasons. Awe is a very good word for how I feel. It's a sense of deep respect for nature. I can communicate with the deity."
Bridget McKenzie, a cultural learning consultant, does daily walking meditations. "It's about making time to contemplate the awesomeness of life on earth, the extraordinary luck this planet has in sustaining life."
With trillions of galaxies in the Universe, which may only be one of many universes, the God of the Bible can seem too small, too jealous, too petty and too exclusive and cultic for the spiritually minded
She is not a pagan but for the summer solstice organizes a Garlic Man Parade in south east London to reconnect with ancient traditions. "We all sense changes in the light as the seasons change. It's important to mark the occasion."
Colin Beckley, director of the Meditation Trust, says the only true spiritual experience is silence. "Transcendence is often triggered by nature like being on a mountainside. But by learning to meditate you can bring that mountain experience to your flat in London."
Humanism is about the belief "that human beings find value in the here and now rather than in something above and beyond". "People have social instincts and as a humanist it's about reinforcing those instincts," he explains.
The search for meaning can be exhausting. Philosopher Julian Baggini writes in The Shrink & the Sage that there is a yearning for something more. "My short reply is that you can yearn for higher as much as you like, but what you're yearning for ain't there. But the desire won't go away."
That doesn't make it a bad thing, Vernon says. But it may lead to awkward questions. And that may explain why the research finds that spiritual people have more mental health problems.
"You're going on an interior mental journey. It's risky to go and try and see things from a bigger perspective. The promise is tremendous but the journey can be very painful."


PCG: The Petra Group and Christian Ethics



It looks like one of Philadelphia Church of God's elite is practicing true Christian ethics in a business that is drawing in negative reviews.  Like any good Church of God member, it has a name that immediately will draw up a reaction from church members.  Because who else is always the first easy target for some wild business adventure than fellow church members! It is called The Petra Group.

A reader here on Banned wrote:

Jeremy Cocomise is Co-Founder and Director of Operations for "The Petra Group," along with Bret Smythe. (Jeremy Cocomise's Linked in page doesn't come right out and say he works for "The Petra Group"; however, if you enlarge his picture, you will see the words "The Petra Group" embossed on a yellow background.) In my opinion, it looks to me like this company is a cash cow for the PCG (zoominfo gives $5-10 million in revenue). It appears to be a closed company to PCG employees as all the PCG names I searched, such as Privratsky, etc., come up working for this company and are tied in with PCG and HWA College (AC). The Petra Group is not BBB accredited and BBB has received several complaints alleging customer service issues. I also discovered a "Notice of Federal Tax Lien" in November 2012 with an unpaid balance of $2944.55. 

You remember Jeremy Cocomise...


This company, as it sets the Biblical Standard of the HIGHEST ETHICS  due to the fact it claims to employ several PCG folk, whom we all know to be the most ethical Christians EVER, is not fairing so well with consumers that have paid big bucks for their assistance. One person even claims they are being investigated by the Department of Justice and Consumer Affairs Department for fraud.

THE PETRA GROUP LLC Ripoff Reports, Complaints, Reviews, Scams, Lawsuits and Frauds Reported
1, Report #935334 
Aug 31 2012
10:34 AM
The Petra Group The Petra Group SCAM!! Gresham, Oregon 
Petra Group guaranteed first page Google placement after 60-90 days.  I requested two specific key phrases on the premium package and then Petra Group charged my $275 monthly.  My rep said my monthly fee would be discounted to $275 per month instead of $375.   They guaranteed first page placement.  After 90 days, my business was not listed on the first page on my requested key phrases.   I cancelled my account yet Petra Group still charged my card $275.  They are refusing to refund any money back.   I am now going through my bank to recuperate my money.  Petra Group stated that I was never on the premium package.   They discount $100 in the beginning so that they delude you to think you are on the premium package even though in reality you are on the basic package.  I received monthly invoices from Petra Group that never stated anything with regards to being on what type of package I was on.  TOTAL SCAM!!!    I also receive harassing random anonymous phone calls from Petra Group trying to solicit business!  VERY ANNOYING!!!
Entity: Gresham, Oregon 
2, Report #1146250
May 13 2014
10:24 AM
Entity: Gresham, Oregon 
3, Report #987446 
Dec 26 2012
11:34 PM
The Petra Group Unauthorized Debiting Theft , Internet 
This company gained access to my bank account and began dinging me $275 per month.  I did not authorize their debit of my account.  I did not agree to do any business with these people.  When contacted, they claimed to have telephone messages from me authorizing the deductions and refused to stop or refund any of the money already taken from my account.  No services were performed.  I am attempting to get funds credited back to my bank account, but Chase Bank is little help in stopping the debits or diligently putting the clamps on these scammers. This company markets over the phone to law offices, like mine, and other professionals claiming to get top billing on internet advertising.  They claim to have 10,000 clients (how do all those folks get to the top of the list?), but provide no service...and in my case, deducted funds from my account without any authority from my office.  Do not do business with these guys and hope they cannot access your account information to start deducting cash right out of your account...internet theft.       
Entity: Internet, Internet 
5, Report #1067906
Jul 17 2013
06:25 PM
The Petra Group Beware Media Mouth is The Petra Group!!! Don't be fooled!! gresham Oregon  The Petra Group is MEDIA MOUTH!  Don't be fooled!!  It's the same low life owners, Bret and Jeremy, and they are still up to no good.  They are under investigation from the Dept of Justice and Consumer Affairs for fraudulent business practices.  In particular, for charging customer credit cards AFTER you have clearly cancelled your service.  They hope you don't notice.  If you do, they wait for you to file a complaint with your credit card company and have your charges reversed.  In the meantime they have held onto your money for a couple of months.  They are cons!  DO not do business with them or give them your credit card information.  You will be sorry, they are con's!  BEWARE!
The Petra Group
Entity: gresham, Oregon 
Jun 27 2012
11:55 AM 
The Petra Group in Gresham Oregon Tel: 877-296-8618 The Petra Group...... Scam Artist Frauds BEWARE!!! gresham, Oregon 
These guys are nothing but frauds... Scam artist. They should be locked up and sent to prison. Mr Bret Smythe  and Jeremy Cocomise the owners are slimy low lifes. They sign your business up for Google Places which takes anyone two minutes to set up and they charge you 275.00 per month for five minutes worth of work and call it a business model. Once I figured out what they were doing I canceled and I'm still trying to get my money back from my credit card BUYER BEWARE!
Entity: gresham, Oregon 
The Oregonian reports:

This company gained access to my bank account and began dinging me $275 per month.  I did not authorize their debit of my account.  I did not agree to do any business with these people.  When contacted, they claimed to have telephone messages from me authorizing the deductions and refused to stop or refund any of the money already taken from my account.  No services were performed.  I am...
Petra Group guaranteed first page Google placement after 60-90 days.  I requested two specific key phrases on the premium package and then Petra Group charged my $275 monthly.  My rep said my monthly fee would be discounted to $275 per month instead of $375.   They guaranteed first page placement.  After 90 days, my business was not listed on the first page on my requested key phrases.   I...