Let's put an end to this foolish interpretation of Isaiah 28 once and for all! :)

How often we have heard Isaiah 28:9 is THE WAY ONE STUDIES THE BIBLE?  God's truth is scattered all over the place from Genesis to Revelation and only the true church, apostles, priests and kings approved by God have the combo.  The reason there are so many false churches or teachers in Christianity is because most, save for the elect, simply get the scriptures in either the wrong order or leave out the ones they don't like.  Ha!  Like ALL Churches don't do that!

Anyway, Val says:

"The Bible that must be studied the hard way of here a little and there a little for solving the hidden pieces of line upon line to rightly separate the word of love is the King James Version, the other versions have been altered for the convenience of man."

How about we once and for all lay this ignorant interpretation of scripture to rest and show ourselves, or at least those who are not invested in the above interpretation as being the correct Bible Study Formula, to be a ridiculous way to view this passage. 

First, read it in context.  I know, I know.  Crazy idea for sure, but give it a try.  CONTEXT!

Isaiah 28:

	Verse
1.	Woe to the crown of pride of the drunkards of Ephraim, and to the fading flower of his glorious beauty, which is on the head of the fat valley of them that are smitten down with wine!
2.	Behold, the Lord hath a mighty and strong one, as a storm of hail, a tempest of destruction, as a storm of mighty waters overflowing, that casteth down to the earth with violence.
3.	The crown of pride of the drunkards of Ephraim shall be trodden under foot;
4.	And the fading flower of his glorious beauty, which is on the head of the fat valley, shall be as the first-ripe fig before the summer, which when one looketh upon it, while it is yet in his hand he eateth it up.
5.	In that day shall the LORD of hosts be for a crown of glory, and for a diadem of beauty, unto the residue of His people;
6.	And for a spirit of judgment to him that sitteth in judgment, and for strength to them that turn back the battle at the gate. Comment: The strange mingling of severe warnings and gentle promises of hope, especially noted in this chapter, is the result of Isaiah's discrimination between the leaders who are principally to blame for the approaching disaster and the rank and file of the people who are being misled. "He varies his tone and manner,"F4 accordingly as he addresses first one group, then another.    Verse two identifies God's instrument of destruction as the empire of the Assyrians, metaphorically described here as (1) a hail, (2) a destroying storm, and (3) as a devastating flood. The Assyrians were ready and would soon destroy Ephraim; but the Ephraimites continued to lead lives of, "libertinism and debauchery, in which even the clergy participated with disgusting excess." Their egotistical and boastful over-confidence was noted by Rawlinson: "They said in their hearts, `We have taken to ourselves horns by our own strength' (Amos 6:4,5). They persisted in regarding themselves as secure."   The practical interpretation of Isa. 28:3 means that when the king of Assyria sees Samaria he will immediately take it and eat it up. It also indicates the ease with which Samaria would be taken. Its siege lasted less than three years (2 Kings 18:9,10); whereas the siege of Ashdod, according to Herodotus lasted 29 years, and that of Tyre lasted 13 years.  ...Isaiah turned his attention at once to the same shameful conduct in Judaea that existed in Ephraim.
7.	But these also reel through wine, and stagger through strong drink; the priest and the prophet reel through strong drink, they are confused because of wine, they stagger because of strong drink; they reel in vision, they totter in judgment.
8.	For all tables are full of filthy vomit, and no place is clean. Comment: If Isa. 28:5-6 are considered as a parenthesis, which they manifestly are, then these words are a continued description of the debaucheries of Ephraim. Some have tried to explain the drunkenness of Ephraim as A "spiritual" error; but the description of reeling, staggering, etc. is powerful evidence of common intoxication. Payne properly discerned this as an affirmation that, "Priests and prophets in the northern kingdom were no better than ordinary citizens."
9.	Whom shall one teach knowledge? And whom shall one make to understand the message? Them that are weaned from the milk, them that are drawn from the breasts?
10.	For it is precept by precept, precept by precept, line by line, line by line; here a little, there a little. Comment: We might paraphrase this mockery of Isaiah by the drunken rulers and leaders of Ephraim thus: Why, who does this man think he is teaching, a group of babies who have just been weaned? Is he trying to teach us our ABC's? These silly little sayings of his are nothing at all. They are just rule, rule, rule and law, law, law! J. B. Phillips has this, "Are we just weaned ... Do we have to learn that The law is the law is the law, the rule is the rule is the rule?" Such a mockery indicates that Isaiah's teachings might have been very simple and monosyllabic. Isaiah might have used the stammering, monosyllables of drunkards to announce some of his teachings. In any case, his hearers hated it! God, through Isaiah, at once responded to the mockery.
11.	For with stammering lips and with a strange tongue shall it be spoken to this people; i.e the Assyrians
12.	To whom it was said: 'This is the rest, give ye rest to the weary; and this is the refreshing'; yet they would not hear.
13.	And so the word of the LORD is unto them precept by precept, precept by precept, line by line, line by line; here a little, there a little; that they may go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken. Comment: The thought is, Very well, you reject Isaiah's messages from God; I will speak to you with the words of a cruel invader. You pretend not to understand what God says; but you will really not be able to understand the brutal language of your slave masters in Assyria.
14.	Wherefore hear the word of the LORD, ye scoffers, the ballad-mongers of this people which is in Jerusalem:
15.	Because ye have said: 'We have made a covenant with death, and with the nether-world are we at agreement; when the scouring scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us; for we have made lies our refuge, and in falsehood have we hid ourselves';
16.	Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD: Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a costly corner-stone of sure foundation; he that believeth shall not make haste.
	Summary: Isaiah is telling Ephraim that Assyria is barking up their butts. Ephraim's leaders are a bunch of vomiting drunks.  (Resist Douglas! :) The drunken leaders mock Isaiah  in the form of "blah, blah, blah you say... Do you think we are babies at the breast?  Isaiah it is YOU who sounds like a baby with your blather...wha wha wha."  ("here a little, there a little, line upon line, precept upon precept"  I know this sounds more official, but the original tone was mockery.) Isaiah responds with, "Oh yeah, well you'll see if it is baby talk.  God is going to spank you.  (Sorry couldn't resist:), and you won't think it's baby talk then."   Sorry Val....but thanks for playing.  Like ALL of the COGs, you got this o totally out of context and what you see as THE way to study the Bible is merely phrases used as mockery of Isaiah and then God of Ephraim in response.   You have, like many, managed to make a scripture mean what it never meant. Warm Regards Dennis DenniscDiehl@aol.com

New COG Prophetess Arises: Meet Prophet Val

It's not often that the Churches of God are graced with female prophets.  What's that I said?  A female COG prophet?  Never!  God does not allow it.  Sure we have had a few women here and there that have popped up over the years claiming that they had a message from God.  However, none have ever been as bold as our new self appointed prophet.


Armstrongism's prophets have always been men.  HWA, GTA, Meredith, Flurry, Pack, Cox, Weinland, Waterhouse, etc.  These are men who self-appointed themselves to be the mouthpiece for God. God reveals himself through these men and the world had better sit up and listen.  Otherwise, you will be SPANKED!

Women are to be submissive to men and not rule over them.  They are not to speak in churches or instruct men.  They are to keep their heads covered while in church.  Or, so says Armstrongism ministers.  

Rejoice ye minions!  Your new oracle has arrived with a message from God proving to all doubters that she is an end time prophet:

It is written: One woman delivers the true word John1:1, Rev 12:5, Rev 12:13 that restores Acts 3:21 all things to the world before Christ’s return. She exposes the lies of Satan who has deceived the whole world Rev 12:9. She creates a new thing in the earth fulfilling God’s promise to Eve Gen 3:15, Jer 31:22, Isa 14:16. She is like Moses Acts 3:22, Num 12:3 and she is like Elijah Matt 17:11  her witness alone from the wilderness Rev 12:6  turns the hearts of the fathers to the children Mal 4:5-6 to prepare a people for the coming millennium before the great and dreadful day of the Lord Matt 17:3, Luke 9:30. Moses and Elijah are together with the word Matt 17:3. These three are in this woman. Woe on those who claim to be Christians but refuse to hear Acts 3:23 the true word of God commanded to be written and delivered to the world free of charge, as a witness and a warning Rev 12:12-13, at the heel of time.  This true word delivered turns the hearts of the fathers to the children of God by giving the truth that not one child of God will be put in a hell fire no matter what their sins. It never entered the heart or mind of God to do such a thing Jer 7:31, Jer 19:5. God created evil Isa 45:7 to teach his children the knowledge of good and evil Rom 8:7, Gen 3:22 so that at their resurrection they are ready to become a god Matt 22:29-30, Ps 82:6. Prove all things. Be a workman that needeth not to be ashamed. You cannot rightly judge this unless you read all that has been written. I am she. A true witness delivereth1 Pet 2:5, 1 Pet 2:9. souls… all souls are now delivered Pro 14:25,

Say hello to the Church of  God's new prophet:  Hello Val!

Val also has this to say about the Bible  (KJV only, of course).

The Bible that must be studied the hard way of here a little and there a little for solving the hidden pieces of line upon line to rightly separate the word of love is the King James Version, the other versions have been altered for the convenience of man. God began this end time country with the King James Bible plus he provided study aids to go with this Bible. Other versions are helpful to more easily understand by today's language but the hidden things cannot clearly be seen in the other versions until you have solved the puzzles first in the King James Version. Satan is the author of confusion(1 Cor 14:33). He inspired several different Bible versions all with the deceptive notion of making us think that the word of God would be easier for us to understand. But actually the other versions hide the way for us to see truth by blocking our ability to study precept on precept, line upon line, here a little and there a little as God instructed us in Isa 28:9-10.

A warning to all of you scoffers.  If you reject Val you reject God!

Some preachers have taught that the woman of Revelation 12 is a church. I believed this too at the time. This is because no one could ever imagine God giving a woman the boldness in the Holy Spirit to stand against Satan’s lies alone to deliver the true word of God to the world from the wilderness of cyberspace, (Rev 12:5-6) it is indeed a tall order for one to do. But nothing is impossible for God to do. He will accomplish all his will, I am living proof.
The true word of God now delivered is proven by the true word that is rightly divided on this website (Luke 1:17). If you reject his almighty word of power now delivered, you reject him.

Val also seems to have been listening to Spanky Meredith a little too much:

I did not want to do this and I told God so in 2006. I wanted my Christian life to be easy. It had taken me a long time to finally have a church family. God spanked me hard for this attitude.

I was so very heart broken and deeply pained (Rev 12:2) when my church family shunned me as crazy because of the true word that was growing inside me. I could not understand how others professing the Holy Spirit could treat me so unkind, especially when what I was telling them was of God (love). I asked God why? He told me, it is because they are lukewarm. He said, “they have a form of godliness but they deny my power” (2 Tim 3:5). All prophecies will be fulfilled. I too now say “not my will but thine be done”. I write all that he inspires; I do not want any more spankings. (emphasis mine)

 Val claims she is now turning the hearts of the fathers to the children and the children's hearts to their fathers.   HWA was not capable of doing that. Meredith still has not.  Weinland has not.  Flurry is an abysmal failure at it since he has deliberately broken hundreds of families apart and destroyed parent/child relationships.  Satan is also preparing to swiftly attack her:

Some preachers have taught that the two wings of a great eagle is an airplane that they think will fly this church worth of people into the wilderness. This is not true; when Satan tries to destroy me (Rev 12:17) there will be no time for anyone to board a plane let alone a whole congregation to then take off into the air. The fact is his attack will be so swift that the earth has to open up to help me (Rev 12:16). As Elijah was taken into the air (2 Kings 2:1) so will happen for me (Rev 12:13-14). This website does turn the hearts of the fathers to the children by the word and will of God to prepare a people with his everlasting love for the coming millennial rule of Christ.

She also seems to have the disease of Meredithism - spanking.  She talks about spanking a lot!

How does our invisible Father get our mortal attention? It is through trials and spankings of which we all are partakers

Like all good prophets, Val has written a book. Not a real book, but a pdf book.  The Good Tale

You can checkout Val's mighty words of malarkey here:  Prophet Val

Knock, Knock. Who's There? Another Armstrongite 'prophet', That's Who!

Move over HWA!  Move over Meredith!  Move over Flurry, Pack, Weinland, Cox!  You have new competition!  Well, actually you don't.  You are worthless, irrelvant, apostates who do not know the real god.


A new 'voice' is crying out in the wilderness and is here to save all of you lazy, good for nothing, smelly Laodiceans.  It is another HWA necromancy site. It's all things Herb, all the time. Lot's of cheesy videos of a nutjob that quickly grates on your ears after the first introduction! The Laodicean Knock


There are no true ministers of God left on earth except for this guy.:   L F Maschio  

At least Maschio has a new angle.  Instead of a god giddy with excitement about SPANKING the world with hoards of marching Germans or raging Islamic hoards, Maschio's god is year to 'knock' you.

After being a member, and serving for many years in different  organizations “both tyrannical and liberal”. Mr. Maschio was forced to conclude  that  every senior minister privileged to be ordained during the   Philadelphian era (of which we are aware) have either compromised  themselves,  become corrupt, or strayed from the faith. 

After the death of Herbert W Armstrong, men such as Garner Ted Armstrong, Gerald Flurry, Roderick C. Meredith, David C. Pack, David Hulme, Ronald Weinland and many others have dominated the landscape of Laodicea. Since then, the fruits of the collective ministry of groups such as the PCG, LCG, RCG, UCG, etc. have produced heresy, division, compromise, slander, failed prophecies, and self-righteousness!
These fruits have prompted the LIVING JESUS CHRIST into The Prophesied call to action in the form of a KNOCK to Laodicea.