Wienerdudes Big Mouth Is What Got Him Into Trouble

If Wienerdude had kept his mouth shut about his Swiss bank accounts then he might not be in the trouble he is.  Cincinnati.com has an article discussing how he bragged to his church members that he was heading off to Switzerland to set up a Swiss bank account.  He told them he was  depositing $200,000 USD.

To show what a moron he  really is he bragged about how great his dividends were in just five months after depositing it. He claims to have made $25,000 - $30,000 in interest.

"We've already made around 25, 30 thousand dollars in a few months time, just by putting that money over there," he said. "Astounding. Astounding. We'd put a lot more in, but that's what it's all about. Not just helping us to prepare for things in the future that ought to shock you that this dollar is going down the tubes."

In confusing wording in the article they discuss how Wienerdudes daughter had been served papers in 2009 in one of the original criminal investigates.  Then it jumps into her being served again this past Monday.  Wienederdudes daughter is his accountant.

Also being served are all the banks Wienerdude has come into contact with:

According to court records, prosecutors were also attempting to summon officials from the banks of Fifth Third, PNC, JP Morgan Chase, Wachovia Securities, National City, Charter One, American Express, Huntington and Citibank.

Read the entire article here: Minister spoke of Swiss accounts

Dennis On: "It is Appointed Unto All Men Once to Die...."

It is Appointed Unto All Men Once to Die....

 

One of the hallmark traits of the COGs is that somehow "we" are unique to the history of humans dying.  When I was a pastor, I taught the "we who are alive and remain," concept.  It was very nice knowing that of all the times in history where humans have come and gone by dying, I was NOT going to have to experience that.  Of course, that was bullshit.

 

EVERY COG minister teaches and inspires by telling the faithful that they are unique in the history of mankind and will not have to die.  We live in "awesome" times.  We are the special, the chosen  those who will not have to die as billions have before us.  We will be changed, and "in the moment, a twinkling of an eye," shall be changed. 

 

Of course, Paul was very very wrong.  The Apostle Paul, 2000 years ago, 2000 YEARS!, was wrong.  He finally had to give in to , "I have fought a good fight..." etc, but he was toast.  He had told others to think "time was short," but had to finally admit it wasn't. 

 

Much of the motivation behind the COG "time is short," is the absolute fear of death.  Everyone dies.  If you agree to show up, you agree to leave.  I would love to think that somehow I was living in a time and in touch in such a way as to never die.  I'd love to think that , "we shall not all die, but we all shall change, in a moment, in a twinking of the eye.."  but, alas, we do all die.

 

The idea that humans  can know the future is terribly flawed.  Prophecy makes us feel as if we are special and not subject to the common fate of all those before us.  The COG guru's teach as if they will not die and will live over into some kind of amazing change not common to men.  But they are wrong. 

 

Roderick C Meredith will die before Jesus returns.  David C Pack, will die before Jesus return.  Gerald Flurry will die before Jesus returns.  Joseph Tkach will die before Jesus returns.  Ron Weinland will die before Jesus returns.  We ALL will die as it is the nature of agreeing to show up! 

 

In hindsite, I realize I wanted to be special.  I wanted to be excluded from the common experience of all human beings before me.  I wanted to feel special as to being called of God.  I wanted to feel that I was among those that would not die but would be "changed."   The reality is that no one is special and that all of us will die.

 

How motivational is the idea that "you won't die as others,"  But it is a lie.  The Apostle Paul spent a few years thinking he was special in this regard.  He said, "we who are alive shall be changed," yet ultimately had to admit he was wrong.  He finally had to admit he had fought a good fight, finished his course and was going to die. 

 

Dying sucks.  But it is what ALL humans experience.  There is no way out of this biological demise.  Cells can only replicate so many times and old age is a function of the failure of cells to do this efficiently.  All life form get about the the same number or breaths.  A mouse lives about 3 years and breathes about the same number of times as a human does in 70 years.  An elephant that live 125 years breathes about the same number of times as a human at 70 years.  Life and cells last only so long.

 

So give up the idea that some COG minister can get you out of this experience.  Dying is good for our soul.  We are not, then we are, then we are not.  That's how it works.  Fighting it is futile.  Thinking that some church or religious view can free us from this reality is vain. 

 

Jesus died.  The Apostles died.  The Apostle Paul, who thought he'd not die, died. All gurus died.  HWA died.  GTA died.  Gerald Waterhouse died. Raymond McNair died.  All will die is just how it is. 

 

Learn to live now as now is all you have.  Don't give in to the "just around the corner," or "soon" types.  Reject them. Live your life in the now. Enjoy and learn as you go. 

 

The whole idea that those in the COG "know" how it all will be are wrong.  They are afraid of dying just like everyone before them and misuse the Bible to get them off the hook. 

 

NO ONE gets off the hook.  Live in the now.  Forget the past and do not speculate into the future for you will probably be wrong. 

 

Amen.

 

Dennis C. Diehl
DenniscDiehl@aol.com

 

COG Splinter Cult Leader Hates Abraham Lincoln

Several years ago when the alt.wcg-newsgroup was functioning there was a group of people who jumped on it proclaiming that a new  leader for the Churches of God had emerged. His name was Neville Stevens and his new Church was Zion Ministries.  Stevens was a former COG member who went off the deep end. Despite that, he had a small group (less than 20) people who clung to every word he said.  If you thought the worship of HWA was bad, worship of Stevens and his words was even worse.

Neville in all his glory

Stevens had his followers wrapped up with the idea that they would be the instruments of God that would help usher in the tribulation.  They would be used as bearers of swords that would kill all who opposed Neville and the COG.  Many of them bragged about carrying swords to kill those who opposed the COG.

They would threaten and bully anyone who disagreed with them. They would have all kinds of names they would call people. They were and still are nasty people.  Yet through that nastiness they thought they were the most perfect COG members and Christians who ever walked the face of the earth.

Steven's writes are incredibly long and incredibly boring.  If you ever had any contact with Tony Almo's nutjob cult and the flyer's they placed on car windows you will quickly see the same writing style from Stevens.

Looking through one of his latest entries today, I saw the following from him about Abraham Lincoln.

A prime example would be the United States of America, though it wasn’t called a civil war, but the War of Independence.  It began as a challenge to the ruling body – which was the English Crown.  This war, believe it or not, was a fulfillment of Bible Prophecy.  What emerged was a nation which became the best that human beings could devise.  It was a Christian nation and it was established on a system of law and order, with clearly defined parameters so that everyone knew what the law required of them, along with suitable penalties for anyone who failed to comply.  The presiding government, including the President himself, would be appointed by the people and for the people, and they could easily be thrown out of office according to the will of the people.  The checks and balances were complete, and the nation prospered – at least until the other war, the Civil War of 1860.  This was the most insane period of America’s history.  And it all began when one man wanted absolute power over the states, and the maniac went to war against his own people!  But some form of justice prevailed in the end.  Thank you, John Wilkes Booth!  Well done!  God considers those who kill their own people to be satanic: Isa 14:19-20 “Like a corpse trampled underfoot, ²⁰ you (Satan) will not join them in burial, for you have destroyed your land and killed your people.  The offspring of the wicked [one], (that is Satan) will never be mentioned again.”  I prefer not to mention Abraham Lincoln either!  By a bizarre coincidence, Lincoln’s body was not buried either, but later dumped in some sort of mausoleum, and covered with scrap wood, from where it was stolen – though later recovered.  Finally, years later, they put it in a hole and covered it with a concrete slab in a new mausoleum (the old one had started to collapse).  I don’t know of any other President whose body was subjected to so much bizarre humiliation and interment disruption!  It seems to be telling us something!  You may have your own opinion, but personally, I don’t like the man!  I can think of no good reason why God would’ve either.  The deaths of 620,000 Americans, plus an undetermined number of seriously wounded, should be enough to condemn any man who wages war against his own people.

So why is he pissed at Lincoln.  Part of Stevens problem is his clinging to the British Israelism baloney.  Blacks were less than and inferior beings compared to the British Israelite peoples.  So any man who went to war to stop slavery is despicable in their eyes, just as many in Armstrongism still think to this day.



Stevens then goes on to tell why the US is in such bad shape.....we refused to obey King George!

What proved to be unique about the American system of government is the absence of a royal or kingly line.  After getting rid of King George III, they didn’t want another king.  This too, turned out to be prophetic:  Hos 3:4-5 “For the Israelites will live many days without king or prince, without sacrifice (there’s no religious sacrifices conducted in America) or sacred stones (As a matter of fact, they don’t worship ‘The Rock’ either), without ephod (Levitical priestly robes) or idol 

Then after a long tirade he gets into the meat of his message.  His followers and the TRUE followers of God will be lifting up swords to kill all heretics and blasphemers:

On top of this, the Order of Aaron takes a new role.  They must now be warrior priests in the Order of Melchizedek.  This is the New Order that is spoken of.  Elijah and the Levite Brotherhood are of this caliber, and they are prepared to fight for God’s Kingdom.  The enemy is already at work fighting to take the Kingdom by trying to expel the Jewish Israelis.  Does any rational person believe that God won’t order retaliation when the Kingdom of God is imminent?  With formidable odds against His servants the imbalance will be redressed.  Just to remind the reader of what this means, God has made it very clear: Zech 12:8-9 “On that day the LORD will shield those who live in Jerusalem, so that the feeblest among them will be like David (Wasn’t David a mighty warrior?), and the house of David will be like God, like the Angel of the LORD going before them. ⁹ On that day I will set out to destroy all the nations that attack Jerusalem.”  Don’t expect to see the Sons of Jerusalem walking around in prayer shawls and praying on street corners.  Or holding prayer meetings in the public places and calling on the Muslims to repent!  It will be far too late for any of that sort of thing, and the Sons of Jerusalem will be preoccupied elsewhere clearing the borders!

Of all the crackpot splinter cults of Armstrongism this one has the potential to cause harm to others outside the cult.  They despise Muslims and claim to be ready to go to any length to kick them out of Jerusalem and Israel.