Dave Pack Also Speaking Out Against Bob Thiel

Poor Bob, he is getting hammered on all fronts. Can we say p-e-r-s-e-c-u-t-i-o-n!

Dave writes:

Here is why Thiel disavowed his previous position and hid the facts. He saw the same thing we have seen since our posting—WIDESPREAD DISAGREEMENT IN LCG WITH ROD MEREDITH’S FALSE TEACHING ABOUT THE FALLING AWAY! He probably got the same avalanche of emails from LCG members that we did. He wanted to be in agreement with the large number in LCG who know this doctrine is WRONG! 

How many wrote him? Enough to make him (1) flip-flop, (2) alter his posts to hide his first position, (3) attack us for reporting the truth—and (4) go public against LCG’s leadership. 

Not surprisingly, Meredith weighed in on Bob Thiel, seeking to distance LCG from “their man,” but of course choosing something other than Thiel’s “falling away” position to do this. A recent weekly Bulletin stated that Thiel is not an official LCG spokesman, and that he “has written a number of things” (postings and books) with which LCG’s leaders do not agree. Let’s summarize: LCG allows a lay member to write ridiculous, divisive, heretical nonsense, but remain a member. Why? Because he can periodically be “useful.” Thiel’s books are speculative, heretical nonsense about prophecy by a man working presumptuously without God’s calling, completely out of his depth. We ask again: Why would LCG permit this? Why would they look away as a lay member takes to himself such AUTHORITY—and for years? 

The answer: Because its leaders produce so much ridiculous, divisive, heretical nonsense themselves—on prophecy and numerous other doctrines! On what basis would they stop such a man when they have lost track of so much prophetic truth themselves?

Bob Thiel on "Persecution" Another Embarassment For LCG

What an interesting topic to pop up on Bob Thiel's blog today after he has been publicly rebuked by Rod Meredith and ripped apart on various blogs by people are who are disgusted with him. Was Meredith's letter "persecution?"  This blog? James Malm's deep seated disgust with Bob? Readers comments on various blogs?

The world's most renown authority on prophecy writes (bold highlights are Bob's)

COGwriter
Jesus taught:

20 If they persecuted Me, they will also persecute you (John 15:20).
29… Assuredly, I say to you, there is no one who has left house or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife or children or lands, for My sake and the gospel’s, 30 who shall not receive a hundredfold now in this time–houses and brothers and sisters and mothers and children and lands, with persecutions–and in the age to come, eternal life (Mark 10:29-30).
10 Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness’ sake, For theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 11 Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake. 12 Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you (Matthew 5:10-12).

The Apostle Paul taught:

12 Yes, and all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution. (2 Timothy 3:12)

What should a Christian do when persecuted?

43 You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you (Matthew 5:43-44).

10 We are fools for Christ’s sake, but you are wise in Christ!  We are weak, but you are strong!  You are distinguished, but we are dishonored! 11 To the present hour we both hunger and thirst, and we are poorly clothed, and beaten, and homeless. 12 And we labor, working with our own hands. Being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we endure; 13 being defamed, we entreat. We have been made as the filth of the world, the offscouring of all things until now.  14 I do not write these things to shame you, but as my beloved children I warn you.  (1 Corinthians 4:10-14)

The most faithful to the word of God often are amongst the most persecuted.
Remember also that Jesus said:

32 “Do not fear, little flock, for it is your Father’s good pleasure to give you the kingdom.  (Luke 12:32)
10 Do not fear any of those things which you are about to suffer (Revelation 2:10).

Persecution is not fun, but it is expected.

He ends his screed with this:

All the faithful will be subject to persecution and being betrayed by professing believers (Matthew 24:9-13, Mark 13:12-13; Luke 21:16-18; Daniel 11:32-35).   Persecution has taken many forms throughout history and a deadly time of persecution is coming.

There is not a single COG out there that has been persecuted for their beliefs.  They still are able to assemble freely, write absurdly ridiculous books, maintain blogs critical of the Catholic church and it's beliefs, ridicule other churches, races and sexual orientation. On and on the list could go.

Christian are being persecuted in Iran, Iraq, Syria, Indonesia, and other places.  But according to Bob those are not "TRUE" Christians so their "persecution" is irrelevant.  Only the members of the Living Church of God will suffer "real" persecution.  However, the "Dr." apparently senses he is suffering it now.

Since Bob apparently does not understand what persecution is I suggest he check these sites out:

Voice of the Martyrs

Persecution: International Christian Concern

Persecution Project Foundation

Please Note:  

The pictures below are of persecuted FAKE Christians, 

at least according to Bob Thiel,
the world's foremost authority on 
Christianity, prophecy and persecution.  

The only real Christians on the face of the entire earth 

are part of Living Church of God, 
at least according to Bob Thiel, 
the world's foremost authority on 
Christianity, prophecy and persecution.

EW King: Run Away From That Cigar and Champagne!

EW King has some words of wisdom today concerning your satanic friends at worldly weddings you might be attending.  Beware if those evil people who offer you a glass of champagne and a cigar!  Evil dudes!  Evil! Evil! Evil!

Those true Christians who speak about the Commandments of God are usually and quickly attacked as “legalists”. Satan has got his language down in labeling things. If a Christian attends a wedding and does not drink alcohol or smoke he may be approached by a so called “friend” saying to him: “We are going to make a toast so here is some Champaign and a cigar.” If you tell him you do not drink alcohol or smoke he might ask you to pretend for the picture. Should you? No! He might suggest to you; “Come on! Don’t be a fanatic!” But the Bible is clear; “Make no provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.” [Romans 13:14] And we are not to even flirt with the appearance of sin. [1 Thessalonians 5:22] They will argue with you: “You are out of balance!” In other words, they recommend that we balance our Christian lives with a little sin. Do not listen to them!

So what's a poor dude in the Church of God to do when offered that evil cigar and champagne?

God asks us to “flee from sin”. It is okay to just get up and leave the areas of temptation if we can. Run to God and not to the fallen mob! True Christians are a remnant, a small group. That is just the way it is. [Luke 12:32]

I know a LOT of COG ministers that like their cigars with brandy or other liquors.  These guys are in UCG, LCG and COGWA at the moment. 

Champagne certainly is not frowned upon by many ministers I have seen over the years while seeing them get drunk on it in ministerial dining at the Feast.

Only EeeeW King seems to have an issue with it.  Is he jealous that no one offered him some bubbly and a Cohiba?