Friday, June 28, 2013

I Did Not Ask to Be Joshua But It Is In My Nature



Davey make two incredibly stupid claims:

It is in my nature to be Joshua
I was the first filed Pastor to stand for the truth

Next, Satan is rebuked by Christ (twice). Rebuke means “to chide, corrupt, rebuke or reprove.” This does not mean the devil is bound or has been cast into the bottomless pit. But Satan and his chief agents over the splinters are removed from being able to resist Joshua as they do. Verse 2 also describes Joshua as a “brand [poker or firebrand] plucked out of the fire.” The Hebrew word for brand means “to rake together; a poker (for turning or gathering embers).” The purpose of pokers is to stoke fires, which increases heat. God identifies Joshua as someone who does this—who continues poking the fire. This is certainly my nature, and describes my whole life. I did not ask for this personality type, but it was the type apparently necessary for the duty. During and after the apostasy, as the very first field pastor fired for standing for the truth, I did constantly stir things up to show brethren what was happening. Mr. Armstrong was the same way—very much so. Recall how he often tried to “JOLT!” (his word) people out of complacency.

Is Dave Pack About To Declare Himself a "Type" of Christ?



Dave writes:


3:1: “And He [Jesus Christ in the context, see Zech. 2:13] showed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the Lord, and Satan standing at his right hand to resist him.”
The ancient Joshua described in Ezra, Nehemiah, Haggai and Zechariah had two different names. Ezra and Nehemiah call him Jeshua, but Haggai and Zechariah use Joshua. There is a reason for this difference! Joshua means “Jehovah-saved.” Jeshua means “he will save.” So this man is one who is saved, but also one who delivers (saves) others. Of course Jesus Christ is our ultimate Savior and High Priest. This man then, like Moses and Adam, becomes a type of Jesus Christ.

How interesting that it was a man named Joshua who followed Moses, and was used to deliver Israel from enemies and the wilderness to the Promised Land.
To further legitimatize his claim to be Joshua is says he is persecuted and attacked.  The Devil is pissed with Davey and is trying to destroy him.


Verse 1 pictures Joshua standing before Jesus Christ being resisted by Satan. The Hebrew word for resist is the verb form of the word translated Satan. It means “to attack, accuse, be an adversary or resist.” In summary, the devil is doing to Joshua what he naturally does, but in a closer and more direct way. Notice Joshua is not in Satan’s clutches, as some mistakenly believe. This man is in the devil’s crosshairs—constantly attacked, accused, opposed and RESISTED. This should not be hard to understand since the devil would most want to destroy the final leader of God’s Church. (Incidentally, I have been attacked more than any other leader alive. Only Mr. Armstrong, having had more years, was attacked more.)

Dave Pack: I am NOT The Chief Sinner That COG Groups Are Looking For




Is Davey about ready to pull a Bob Thiel out of his ass and claim that since he spoke to HWA about Joshua that he is legitimately the man? 


With this foundation, we are ready to examine the question of, “Who is Joshua?” First understand that this prophecy was a vacant doctrine in the Worldwide Church of God. Mr. Armstrong once believed his son was Joshua. (Coincidentally, it was at this time many were privately speculating that these men might be the Two Witnesses.) But Mr. Armstrong’s thinking evolved and he eventually realized this would be impossible, for a number of reasons. When Mr. Armstrong and I spoke on the phone, we often discussed prophecy. I once asked him who was Joshua and he said that he did not know.

Gerald Flurry, the leader of PCG, originally taught that Joe Tkach was Joshua. After Joe Tkach died, he changed to Joe Tkach Jr. One effect of these crazy unbiblical ideas is Satan has brethren looking backward for false “Joshuas,” instead of forward for the true one.

Other splinters hold no teaching on Joshua other than “some day we may know.” They could never discover his identity because they lost the clues to finding him. And they are looking for the wrong profile. Grasp this! Misunderstanding Zechariah 3:3-4, people are looking for a kind of chief sinner. Obviously, no leader would claim to fulfill this. In effect, the identity of Joshua has been hidden due to a false assumption. However, just as the point came when Mr. Armstrong had to see and explain that he was Zerubbabel, God would do the same with Joshua.

Since Davey wants to give the impression he is without sin, it is easy to guess who he is leading up to above.   Since Dave's arch nemesis is Rod Meredith and Rod has already declared his has never committed a major sin since baptism, Davey has to one up him and claim he keeps examining himself and cannot find any fault within.