When You Talk to Someone and Their Voice Rises, it is Because a Demon is Influencing Them....Because They are Borderline Commandment Keepers

In the never ending weirdness that is Armstrongism, here is another one for the file cabinet:

Quite a few times I have heard of Church people lying. Both side affirm that they are telling the “truth”.

Some of this can be explained by people being tired and mixing up words. Plus misunderstandings.

For a few months after my Heart Attack, I was quite bad with putting sentences together backwards. Giving the opposite meaning. When questioned these types of mix ups are always corrected.

The lying that I am bringing up is about Demonic Lying. I have talked to people who have been excited about a certain subject, suddenly there voice changes tone or pitch. They say something completely offbeat and wrong. I sharply correct them. Then they carry on with what they were talking about.

At times (a few/too many) COG people and Ministers who have sin lurking, and slipping more and more away from the Ten Commandments. Have Demons lurking in certain thought layers of their brain. When the Demon takes over they have no knowledge of it. After the Demon has had his say. They carry on knowing nothing of what they just said.

These situations cause all sorts of very bad evil troubles in the Church.

My advice to anyone, who has COG people tell them that what they have just said is wrong is this.  Go back over what has been said and try to work out any misunderstandings.  We as Gods people should never completely reject correction. We need to heed and look into our lives to see if we are slipping away from the Truth.

Take note of pragmatic (hard headed) liars. Usually there voice will change tone or pitch. Usually they will be borderline Commandment keepers.  They will not understand what is going on. Lots of demonic troubles will follow them.  

Best to stay away from them.

Aaron Dean on Dave Pack: "I feel sorry for his people as he is demanding so much from them"

Forwarded to me tonight from a Yahoo group:

Posted By: Aaron Dean

Dave Pack appears to be using scare tactics to gain a following and grab former WCG members.  He buys web search engine spots on every other church groups name, even Lifenets and facebook pages to do what I refer to as "sheep rustling" to all familiar with HWA.  This is something HWA would never do. He then puts them down, and then says he is the true church. UCG had to buy a spot to say "This is the official UCG web site" to keep people from thinking he is it, or getting wrong information.

I feel sorry for his people as he is demanding so much from them, like asking them to borrow against their homes (and if the husband won't do it, as community property he asks the wife to borrow her half - again going against a husband is something HWA would never demand except to obey God's law. Borrowing against the family home to give to the church is not one of God's laws.  Proper respect of your husband is) and then justifying it by saying they had all things in common in Acts.  Of course that is not what Acts is about.   We had a long email exchange where he was upset with answers I gave from questions mostly from his own people, saying I was lying, but ended up justifying everything I had listed in giving answers. Obviously he felt I was keeping people from him with his claims of being so close to HWA and other issues.

Gamaliel's advice will play out on him. He does not do as Mr. Armstrong did and I pray for people who are, or will be, hurt by him.  He has a grandiose plan and needs a lot more money to complete it and many are fooled by scare tactics.

Philadelphia Church of God's Mark Nash

A reader here commented about Mark Nash of the Philadelphia Church of God and his new moon nonsense.  I decided to look the guy up and see what he said.

The very first thing that popped up was nothing about "new moons" but the fact that he was in prison for tax evasion and that PCG let him preach while out on "good behavior" weekends.

Another person of interest is Mark Nash. He is a former Navy Seal or Green Beret, with all the "talents" taught to them. He went to prison for defrauding the IRS, and yet was not even suspended while in prison. In fact, he was allowed to give sermons while on leave for "good behavior." If any member on the bottom level was similarly put away, he would be put out for putting the "church" in a bad light. After all, even deacons are supposed to be "blameless" in the world and of "good reputation." What gives? What do these men know that keeps them in the "good old boy network"? These two men, at least, have knowledge that keeps them on the "inside." Otherwise, Flurry would have disposed of them long ago. Mark Nash now teaches Physical Ed and who knows what else. ESN

If he had been a low class regular church member they would have kicked him out.  Because he was part of the "elite" they did nothing to him.

Another wonderful legacy of Armstrongism and the Philadelphia Church of God.  Flurryism rocks!