Friday, September 13, 2013

David C. Pack: The Splinters are Egypt - PERIOD!



Dave writes:
Verses in Haggai 2 reveal more about the prophecy. The remnant now having returned, God is speaking to His people and says, “Be strong, all you people of the land, says the Lord, and work: for I am with you, says the Lord of hosts: according to the word that I covenanted with you when you came out of Egypt, so My Spirit remains AMONG you: fear you not” (Hag. 2:4-5). (Dave then jumps to this conclusion)Verse 6 makes plain this is describing a people at the end of the age, not ancient (or modern) Jews or some group in a church of this world.


Dave again takes scriptures meant for a specific people for a specific time and  says it's all about him and his splinter cult.  What an idiot!


Many pages could describe the parallels between ancient Israel leaving Egypt and God’s people leaving the “Egyptian” splinters. While there are of course differences, the parallels are stunning—and fascinating in regard to what God’s people can expect from their God—Jesus Christ, the Head of the Church—in the manner of how He will work with His final small flock of people to complete such a great end-time Work.
Dave's god certainly is impotent.  Why does it need a little group of people to do the job it should have been doing all along?
First we might ask: Why, in regard to the remnant, would there be IN HAGGAI a reference to Egypt and God’s COVENANT with Israel? Every Christian has heard this many times. God calls Christians out of spiritual Egypt, which is a type of this world. Every year during the Days of Unleavened Bread Christians rehearse their coming out of Egypt. Accept it or not, those outside God’s one Church are in the world. Having adopted numerous false doctrines, standards and ways that God commands true Christians to reject, this describes the splinters. In the end, there is only God’s Church and the world, also variously described as Babylon, Egypt and the place of dragons. Christians are in one or the other. They cannot be in both and this includes you. The splinters are Egypt—period. God plans to bring His people out of Egypt, reinstate them into His Church, and work with them as He did ancient Israel when they came out of Egypt during the Exodus. This is what He says.

David C. Pack: I, Along With the True Believers Will Soon Hear Christ's Audible Voice



More proof that Dave Pack is having mental issues.  Jesus Christ and/or his god, is going to start soon speaking to Dave and the Restored Church of God.  Dave and his followers will HEAR that voice.  Unconverted losers will be unable to hear that voice though.  Even Herbert Armstrong never made such outlandish statements as this.


Confirmed in Zechariah

Zechariah 6 brings more proof of God using a literal voice, and in a context directly related to the remnant. The word “shall” all through verses 9-15 indicates the events described have not yet happened. Much explanation could be brought to this longer passage, but for now realize that verses 12-13 will carry more meaning when we move to the next subhead:

“Thus speaks the Lord of hosts [to Joshua], saying, Behold the man whose name is The BRANCH; and He shall grow up out of his place, and He shall build [the Hebrew can also mean repair] the temple of the Lord: even He shall build [again, repair] the temple of the Lord; and He shall bear the glory, and shall sit and rule upon His throne; and He shall be a priest upon His throne: and the counsel of peace shall be between them both…And they that are far off [Heb. means “long ago, of old, remote in time or space”] shall come [speaking of the returning remnant in context] and build [repair] in the temple of the Lord, and you shall know that the Lord of hosts has sent me unto you. And this shall come to pass, if you will diligently obey the VOICE of the Lord your God” (6:12-13, 15).

A statement by Dave in the following paragraph shows just how theologically bankrupt he really is.  Scripture says that Jesus came to reconcile the entire world back to the Father so that no one should perish.  Davey's god is going to "winnow" out the undesirables from the church.  Quit a contrast between Jesus' word and the word of Dave!
The Hebrew for “voice” is again qol, not dabar or amar. This amplifies Haggai 1:12. In fact, dates in Zechariah show that he foretold how God would use His voice several weeks before Haggai recorded that the people heard it. Get this point. Christ will use His actual voice to get the attention of His sheep. This is what He says, not what I say. But this is no surprise because He says that He will do this at times. And He has done it periodically. Christ will winnow out those who do not belong in His Church. He certainly will not speak to those who do not have His Spirit about coming back to a Temple of which they have never been a part—hence WHY some will not hear the voice and others will. Because people once attended the Worldwide Church of God or today are attending your splinter is not relevant. Having God’s Spirit is relevant. Prophecy reveals that probably most will hear Christ’s voice and make the right decision. But others will not obey what they hear and Zechariah 11:10-11 explains that God will immediately—“in that day”—remove His Spirit and cut them off from Him.

Here is the scripture that Dave IGNORES:

The Lord isn’t slow to do what he promised, as some people think. Rather, he is patient for your sake. He doesn’t want to destroy anyone but wants all people to have an opportunity to turn to him and change the way they think and act.
The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance.
The Lord is not slow in doing what he promised—the way some people understand slowness. But God is being patient with you. He does not want anyone to be lost, but he wants all people to change their hearts and lives.
The Lord is not slow concerning his promise, as some regard slowness, but is being patient toward you, because he does not wish for any to perish but for all to come to repentance.
The Lord is not slow to keep his promise. He is not slow in the way some people understand it. He is patient with you. He doesn’t want anyone to be destroyed. Instead, he wants all people to turn away from their sins.
The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.
The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.

David C. Pack: I WIll Soon Be the Oracle at Wadsworth




Dave is so desperate to grasp at anything that he can use to legitimize himself that he now says he will soon become the OFFICIAL mouthpiece for his god to speak directly through him.
One final Hebrew word in Haggai should be noted: “Then spoke Haggai the Lord’s messenger in the Lord’s message unto the people, saying, I am with you, says the Lord. And the Lord stirred up…the spirit of all the remnant of the people; and they came and did work in the house of the Lord of hosts, their God” (1:13-14). “Says” in verse 13 is NOT amar, but rather neum. The word neum can also be translated “an oracle.” God uses this word when He wants to bring special emphasis to a message. Of course the message is that God is now with people who are frightened and who were cut off from Him for a long time, and who have come to see that they were.