Wednesday, November 27, 2013

Mr. E.W.King Clears Up The Misunderstanding of Earth ‘Eras’ and Paleolithic Man




God's greatest gift to the church, after Bob Thiel, of course, is Eric King.  King knows everything about everything.

Mr. E.W.King clears up the misunderstanding of earth ‘eras’ and humans. COGSR ministries is dedicated to bringing you the whole truth and nothing but the Truth. Please read and share:

What is “Paleolithic Man”? This phrase for man comes from what is known as the Paleolithic Age, Era, or Period. It is referred to as an age of prehistoric human history. It tells of a time when the human mind was in its earliest development. Actually this period starts from prehuman existence with certain ape-like creatures that God created who began to learn how to use their hands or limbs by making tools. We see other animals doing this today such as the raccoons and the ocean seals. We find animals learning how to do this as early as 2.6 million years ago. Please do not misunderstand me, I am not claiming that these creatures were human beings, they were not. They were animal species which have now gone extinct.-

About 7,000,000 years ago God decided to create some very interesting beings. He created Sahelanthropus Ttchadensis. We have given this species the nickname “Toumai”. These creatures were the first to look like modern man in many ways but still fell short. These creatures exited for some time and developed a form of communication amongst them selves. God was taking pleasure in all of His great acts of creation. God loves to create!-

When we get to about 4,400,000 years ago (before modern man) we find the creatures known as Australopithecus Afarensis. These were some of the first human-like creatures to spend more time on the ground and outside of sheltered areas. One from this species is popularly known as “Lucy”. She walked upright and began to use her hands to do other things than just walk. After her came Homo Habilis and some others.-

COGSR has discovered that our universe was created 13.7 billion years ago. We learned that our galaxy is called the Milky Way Galaxy and was formed roughly 13.2 billion years ago. We learned that our solar system (4.6 billion years old) and our planet was formed and created by our Almighty God and that it was originally created to be inhabited around 6 billion years ago. We learned that God created IB’s [angelic beings] to inhabit and take care of our planet as “care-takers”. We learned that these angels failed and rebelled against God during what we call the Permian Period and the angelic war ended with what we call the KT extinction event at 65 million years ago. The angels had traveled to heaven and tried to war against God [Jude 6]. As a result they were cast back to our planet which caused great devastation and the destruction of the dinosaurs. When the IB’s hit the Earth they caused four great craters.-

We learned that after this event God continued to create through additional periods. At the end of the KT extinction event God proceeded to create again. We can start this new phase of creation with strength around 47,000,000 years ago. This brings us up to the last ice age which ended roughly 10,000 years ago. We understand that the first 4000 years of this time helped melt the ice and prepare the way for the Garden of Eden and the creation of the most recent and last human couple, Adam and Eve.-

When we reach what is known as the Pleistocene era around 10,000 BP we begin to see the groups of the first humans [who come from one of the Nine first Mothers], before the creation of Adam and Eve starting to make homes and use dwelling places such as caves to hide from the changing weather and wild animals. We find cave art painted on the walls of some of these caves. These early humans were beginning to learn how to live in a “fallen world” [Corrupted by the angelic Rebellion]. This era of development is what some call the Paleolithic era.

You can read the rest of his bullshit here:   Paleolithic Man and your Bible

Something Just to Think About...





I can't say I ever heard much in WCG, nor did I ever speak much if at all on the Birth Narratives of Jesus when pastoring.  I think it was subconsciously avoided due to the over reaction the church had to all things Christmas.  I gave one sermon on both accounts twice in two different places towards the end of my ministerial career explaining why the Birth Narratives were added to the Gospels of Matthew and Luke and how they simply cannot be harmonized and that was not the point anyway.  The conflicts over why there would be genealogies of Jesus in both books giving rather human roots to Jesus but then the birth stories which made genealogies moot as God was Jesus father are endless.  Apologetics goes into overdrive when discussing the Birth Narratives of Jesus.  My view, as you should know by now, is that the Narratives are not harmonious and it obvious that neither writer read the other's story before writing their own.  They were added to the Gospels accounts and are not eyewitness accounts of anything.  While not trying to sound too harsh or pointed, there were never really any Wise men, shepherds watching flocks, angelic choirs, roaming stars, flights to Egypt, the slaughter of the innocents or quiet trips back to Nazareth after 40 days.  These stories are mined totally from the Old Testament Scriptures, as was the writing style of the times, to give Jesus a spectacular birth fit for the Son of God.  The Caesars had them so why not Jesus...


If one is genuinely interested in the background of the Birth Narratives, one of the definitive works on the topic is by Raymond Brown in his classic, The Birth of the Messiah.  It is a heavy hitter and he admits to having to his own caution not to offend the Magesterium of the Church and get himself bounced.  Father Brown removes any doubt as to the intent and mistakes made my the authors of the Birth Narratives that would not be tolerated today.  He even takes Ernest Martin, of WCG fame , to task for his unfortunate literalism which lead Ernest Martin to all sorts of calculations about the Star of Bethlehem etc.

The Birth Narratives of Jesus as found in Matthew and Luke are fascinating.  I would like to point out one aspect of the genealogies which lead from Abraham to Mary.  I would like to point out that in this genealogy are four WOMEN, which of itself is rather unheard of in genealogies of this type.  But what is more interesting is that the four are not the women one would expect.  There are no Sarahs, Leahs or Rachels.  No Deborahs or even Eves, though she might make the cut on this one.  The four women included are all fallen women with questionable backgrounds.  They were as included in the text....

Matthew 1:

"The Genealogy of Jesus the Messiah An account of the genealogy of Jesus the Messiah, the son of David, the son of Abraham. Abraham was the father of Isaac, and Isaac the father of Jacob, and Jacob the father of Judah and his brothers, and Judah the father of Perez and Zerah by Tamar, and Perez the father of Hezron, and Hezron the father of Aram, and Aram the father of Aminadab, and Aminadab the father of Nahshon, and Nahshon the father of Salmon, and Salmon the father of Boaz by Rahab, and Boaz the father of Obed by Ruth, and Obed the father of Jesse, and Jesse the father of King David. And David was the father of Solomon by the wife of Uriah, and Solomon the father of Rehoboam, and Rehoboam the father of Abijah, and Abijah the father of Asaph, and Asaph the father of Jehoshaphat, and Jehoshaphat the father of Joram, and Joram the father of Uzziah, and Uzziah the father of Jotham, and Jotham the father of Ahaz, and Ahaz the father of Hezekiah, and Hezekiah the father of Manasseh, and Manasseh the father of Amos, and Amos the father of Josiah, and Josiah the father of Jechoniah and his brothers, at the time of the deportation to Babylon. And after the deportation to Babylon: Jechoniah was the father of Salathiel, and Salathiel the father of Zerubbabel, and Zerubbabel the father of Abiud, and Abiud the father of Eliakim, and Eliakim the father of Azor, and Azor the father of Zadok, and Zadok the father of Achim, and Achim the father of Eliud, and Eliud the father of Eleazar, and Eleazar the father of Matthan, and Matthan the father of Jacob, and Jacob the father of Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom Jesus was born, who is called the Messiah."



To refamiarize yourself...

Tamar -Daughter-in-Law of Judah

Tamar-  Tamar was accused of prostitution on account of her pregnancy. Upon hearing this news, Judah ordered that she be burned to death. Tamar sent the staff, seal, and cord to Judah with a message declaring that the owner of these items was the man who had made her pregnant. Upon recognizing his security deposit, Judah released Tamar from her sentence and accordingly she was able to give birth to twins, Perez and Zerah. Perez is said to be the ancestor of King David. The Genesis narrative also makes a note that Judah did not have further sexual relations with Tamar. (Genesis 38:24-30)


Rahab, the Harlot who helped the boys out 

Rahab, (/ˈr.hæb/;[1] HebrewרָחָבModern Raẖav Tiberian Rāḥāḇ ; "broad," "large"; GreekῬαάβ) was, according to theBook of Joshua, a woman who lived in Jericho in the Promised Land and assisted the Israelites in capturing the city. Nearly all English translations of Joshua describe her as a harlot or prostitute.[2]


Ruth the pretty relative of incestuous ancestors

Ruth the Moabitess,  (a Gentile through whom no heir to the Messiah could come.) the great-grandmother of David, and, according to the Gospel of Matthew, an ancestress of Jesus.  The Moabites were descended from the incestuous relations between Abraham's nephew Lot and his oldest daughter after the destruction of Sodom (Gen. 19:33-38)


Bath-Sheba because she was taking a bath.  If she was taking a shower, she'd be "Shower-Sheba."  (Radio Preacher truth I heard here in town.  I added the shower part.)

Bathsheba (Hebrewבת שבע‎, Bat Sheva, "daughter of the oath") (Arabicبثشبع‎, "ابنة القسم") was the wife of Uriah the Hittite and later of David, king of the United Kingdom of Israel and Judah. She is most known for the Bible story in which King David took her to sleep with him.  (But they were not really sleeping:)

Why fallen women?  Because it was not uncommon for the early Church to have to defend Jesus birth as not illegitimate and Jesus a bastard is why.  In John 8 we have an argument that goes wildly out of control between Jesus and the Pharisees over who really can claim God as their Father.  It ends up Jesus telling them their father is the Devil and they are all liars.  The Pharisees respond with stones. So much for turn the other cheek.  Just before this knockdown, we have the story inserted many years later and not in any originals showing that texts were indeed edited along the way to fit agendas, of Jesus and the woman taken in adultery.  Jesus basically reminds the men they all have done it too in one way or the other and they slink away.  All is forgiven.  Was the author responding to his misunderstanding of the charge in John 8:41 that unlike Jesus, the Pharisees were not born of Fornication?  Maybe....   The spin off doctrines of trying to keep Mary a Virgin and thus herself clean and Jesus perfect have been many.  One embellishment of a story leads to the need for many more to explain how the last one could be. 

Including the four fallen women in the genealogy was some one's attempt  to send the message that no matter, even if Jesus had a questionable birth and circumstances were dicey at best (no one really knows anything about Jesus actual birth date or circumstances), God can work through fallen women to accomplish his goals so get off Mary and Jesus back!  The inclusion of the women was an admission that few would buy the "Dad, Joseph...I have something to tell you.  I am pregnant but not to worry.  It is by the Holy Spirit and the baby will be the Messiah because God begot him in me.  I am really still a virgin."   "Oh ok...great!" was probably not going to be any real response by the men in Mary's life.  Joseph is a bit player in the play and comes and goes from the scene quickly.  

I recall a several brilliant questions from a teen to me once which left me only with, "Wow..great questions!"  I was asked how old Mary was when she had Jesus.  Tradition says below the age of 16 and maybe as young as 12.  He asked if that wasn't a crime?  Prolly!    He then asked me who was Mary's husband when she had Jesus?  Well we might say Joseph but he was not the father of Jesus .  It was God according to the story.  He then asked me why that would not be considered fornication on God's part since God may have been the father but not the husband...  See what I mean about one story leading to another to explain the last one!  He finally asked me a third question about the text that says Mary was with child "by the Holy Spirit."  Ummm...Mr. Diehl, who's child was this?  God's or the Holy Spirit's?  The problem gets bigger if you imagine the HS as a third person of the one mysterious thing.  Another topic where one answer produces the need for more stories.  I liked that kid!  He's probably an Episcopal Priest somewhere now!  He would probably understand this...and be ok with it too.


...but that's another story  :)


At any rate, tis the season to hear the story over and over and I know if you were in WCG or are in the Splinters, you not only won't hear much of the story but you certainly won't hear the why and how of them and the fascinating politics going on behind the scenes which required them to be inserted in the text.  Let's face it, if the geneologies lead from God or Abraham or Adam and Eve back to Jesus, without miraculous stories, then why do we need them?  The fact is that the geneologies were probably much older in the text than the come later Birth Narratives suited for another time.  Rather than remove them, because they were already so popular, they just let it be complete with all the conflict doing so would bring theologians and thinking Christians for the next 2000 years.

Tuesday, November 26, 2013

David C Pack: You Will NOT Go To The Bathroom During Services!



Silenced has the following entry on their blog about a woman who attended for a brief time with the Restored Church of God cult.

Shirley Ward left this comment on our last post about RCG cult lunatic David C. Pack’s efforts to control his members:
I was with the RCG for several months, but got out because I was treated like child in an elementary school. I was told I had to call (one of the members) to let them know if I wasn’t going to be there on the Sabbath. I made it very clear that I, am 76 yrs old, and had some medical problems that kept from leaving the house. When I didn’t call, I was reprimanded. I explained that if I didn’t show up, that I was too ill or the weather was too bad.. I also, explained the difficulties I had, getting to and from the meetings, as it took me two hours to get there and that the traffic was extremely bad. Then I was told that I nor my grandson wasn’t allowed to go the restroom during the sermon to do so before or after the sermon, which was a problem for me, because of the medications I took. I was furious when I would get phone calls about how I or my grandson would leave during the sermon, so after the last tongue lashing I went on line and left a scorching e-mail and told them what and how I felt about the RCG Mr. Pack and his ego trips, constant need for money for his building fund and so on. So there, I just validated all of your comments.

Silenced ends the entry with this:
Dear Wadsworth media,
Potential sources criticizing Pack’s cult are practically being handed to you. Your laziness and lack of intellectual curiosity are rather sickening at this point. Real reporters would be probing this already.

Amen to that!  The Wadsworth "reporters" have given Dave a free pass on his cultic behavior. They know the criticism but refuse to hold him accountable.  How many lives need to be lost to this dangerous cult before one of them wakes up?