Standing On Holy Ground With Philadelphia Church of God at Robbers Cave State Park

Campfire song at Robbers Cave with PCG


PCG's Official YouTube Video of This Holy Ground Weekend With Godly Piano

The Philadelphia Church of God has an article up today about a "retreat" that the faculty and "college" students went on to Robbers Cave State Park, in Oklahoma.  Most of the things they describe sound like a typical Church of God camp out with all kinds of activities.  That is until this:

The Robbers Cave tradition goes back before 2002 to when dean of students Stephen Flurry read Malachi’s Message for the first time on July 16, 1989, while there as a 19-year-old. Since 2002, students and faculty have heard Chancellor Gerald Flurry deliver major announcements at Robbers Cave, including the Philadelphia Church of God’s copyright victory.

“Our most memorable experience by far was the announcement of the court case victory in 2003, at the same location where a year previous we’d heard Mr. Gerald Flurry share with us the new revelation from Habakkuk that this victory was prophesied,” theology and speech instructor Wik Heerma said.

“Robbers Cave is a place with an immense amount of history, yet at the same time, it points to a wonderful future and gives vision in such an awe-inspiring way,” sophomore Joel Hudson-Stewart said.

Will Gerald Flurry now try and buy the state park for his own private use or move it to his cult compound?  Will he erect a monument there glorifying that lil' Stevie read Malachi's Message there?  Or, that  PCG paid WCG millions of dollars for the rights to publish Herb's foolishness, or that Gerald Flurry drank Coor's beer there?

The nonsense that COG groups deem "historic" and relevant to a Christians walk is appalling.  They can't talk about Jesus, but they hold as sacred lil' Stevie reading a plagiarized document there.

I am not worthy to be in the presence of such magnificence.

Rod Meredith Tells LCG Members To Stop Questioning His Decision To Hire Nathan, Elliot and Rodzaj

Rod Meredith has sent out a letter telling his loyal followers to basically shut up and quit whining about his decision to hire Peter Nathan, Steve Elliot and Bob Rodzaj immediately after they had just stabbed David Hulme in the back in order to start their own church. 

All three of these men were already in the process of negotiating with LCG while they were were planing "conferences" for the Church of God Fathers Call.  Once more we see the true COG ethics at work.

Living Church of God members are not to concern themselves with that however.  Jesus Christ has approved this move to LCG! How dare you question this happening!

Notice how Rod has to get a dig in at David Hulme right off the bat.  Meredith says, "...no real work was being done there, and that the full Truth was not being preached."

...it is now “leaking out” that a number of ministers, elders and members are coming with us from Mr. David Hulme’s church. We have in no way orchestrated this, but many of them have felt for months or years that no real work was being done there, and that the full Truth was not being preached. So, after checking us out, many are coming to the Living Church of God. Also, we are going to be able to employ at least three ministers who are coming with us to help out in this Work and in this ministry. I ask all of you, in Jesus’ name not to be alarmed or worried about this!

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So I hope all of you will have confidence that Jesus Christ—the Living Head of the Church—will lead those of us here in Charlotte in making these decisions. Christ does not want any of you sitting around being negative or “worrying” about decisions which have been thoughtfully and prayerfully worked out. Rather, we should all be very thankful that a few ministers in the greater Church of God are coming with us to help us do this Work and help us minister to the flock. So please welcome these ministers and their families whole-heartedly, pray for them and ask God’s blessing in this whole thing as He will guide us as we walk and yield ourselves to Him.

If these men are fresh out a a splinter group that has never accomplished a "real work" and has never preached the "full Truth" then why are these men allowed to immediately enter the LCG ministry with full salary and housing benefits?  A thinking person would assume that LCG would have given these men several months to fit in to the LCG way of understanding and to see how loyal they actually are.  Even crazy as he is, David Pack makes his newly poached ministers go through a reeducation camp where they have to read and learn all of David's writings so that their "eyes are opened" to the truth David has delivered.  Meredith doesn't.  He has another standard on which he judged these men. Brunches, babysitting and being a faculty aide.

Frankly, each one who is coming with us full-time has been very well known to me, to Dr. Winnail and to Mr. Ames personally. So they are not “unknown quantities” in any way.  

Never mind the fact that all three worked for Hulme and/or WCG as it was formatting the changes and helped promote the new teachings on the Trinity to church members.  Then when Hulme decided he knew more than anyone else (no shocker there) he started his own group and these three jumped ship with him.


Here's Merdith's qualifications for hiring Peter Nathan...they took him and his wife to brunch...a lot!  Oh, and they worked together in Big Sandy and socialized together...a lot.

Because of this, both Peter and Karen would take my wife and me to brunch every time they would come back from New Zealand when he was the head of the Work in New Zealand under Worldwide for a number of years. After that, Mr. Nathan ended up working for me for a couple of years during my tenure as Deputy Chancellor at Big Sandy. We did a number of things together socially, in addition to our professional interaction.

What is Merdith's reason for hiring Steve Elliot?   He helped babysit him when he was little!  Oh, and Elliot is supposedly shocked at the lack of prophecy preaching in the church.  Given the fact that EVERY SINGLE PROPHECY Meredith has uttered over the past 60+ decades has FAILED, you would think this would not be a major concern right now.  Maybe preaching about false prophets, but certainly not predicting things.

Mr. and Mrs. Stephen Elliott are coming with us from the Chattanooga, TN area. I have known Stephen since he was a little boy as his parents had a number of us college “boys” babysit their own boys—as Betty Bates was the only girl in the college in those early years! So Stephen and I have been friends and associates and I have known his family for over 60 years. He, also, is very sound in the faith and was concerned for quite some time about the lack of preaching on prophecy and on other key matters in his recent association.

So what about Bob Rodzaj?  Rodzaj was Meredith's student aid during the liberal years of the church just before Meredith was shipped to Big Sandy.  They worked together for a few months.

Mr. and Mrs. Bob Rodzaj from the Phoenix, AZ area are also coming full-time. Mr. Rodzaj was my Faculty Aide for a full college year back in the winter of 1985-1986—just before I was transferred to be Deputy Chancellor at Big Sandy. So we worked together for many months and I have found him always to be very sound in the faith, very dedicated and a fine and faithful minister of Jesus Christ.

Those are the magnificent qualifications for immediate employment in the Living Church of God!  Those qualifications did not sit well with a lot of the leadership in LCG and with members.  Notice again for the quote above that there has been dissension in the ranks over the employment of these men:

So I hope all of you will have confidence that Jesus Christ—the Living Head of the Church—will lead those of us here in Charlotte in making these decisions. Christ does not want any of you sitting around being negative or “worrying” about decisions which have been thoughtfully and prayerfully worked out.  Rather, we should all be very thankful that a few ministers in the greater Church of God are coming with us to help us do this Work and help us minister to the flock. So please welcome these ministers and their families whole-heartedly, pray for them and ask God’s blessing in this whole thing as He will guide us as we walk and yield ourselves to Him.

Since all ministers in ALL the splinter groups are now part of the "greater Church of God" will they too be allowed in without any test period? It is nice to know that they are ALL now equal in their ministries. 

The Electric Guitar Riffing Prophet of Armstrongism Gives a Prophetic Message With His Guitar

The prophet King added a guitar to his rocking chair missives today.

It's too bad that King did not continue on and make something of himself by playing guitar instead of promoting himself as some kind of true spiritual leader in Armstrongism.