Thursday, February 4, 2021

LCG: If You Are A Proper Team Player You Will "...deal with people gently, respectfully, and patiently, and are willing to listen..." Just Like We, The Leadership, Do With You



It looks like LCG members are not all "team players", especially when they criticize and say negative things about LCG leaders. 

LCG members need to remember that the ministry can treat you like crap but don't you dare criticize them! 

A good team player will forgive LCG ministers when they say or do something that hurts you. 

After all, if the ministry says something it is as if God is speaking.

Good team players will always promote harmony like the ministry does, especially when they deal gently, respectfully, and patiently with people. 

LCG leaders and ministers have always done this, right?


Skills that Promote Teamwork: Members of successful teams (families, congregations, business groups, and athletic teams) develop the necessary skills to work together smoothly to accomplish goals. These skills can be identified and learned. As Christians, we must develop the same skills—and many are clearly biblical. Effective team players avoid saying or doing things that offend others (Matthew 18:7; 1 Corinthians 10:32). Team players learn to forgive and overlook slights or hurtful comments because they have learned the value of not being easily offended (Proverbs 10:12). Effective team players do not sit in judgment of others—accusing, criticizing, spreading their discontent, or saying or assuming negative things about others on the team. Instead, they make sure their own lives are in order (Matthew 7:1–5; James 4:11). Team players are peacemakers (Matthew 5:9) who can promote harmony and work smoothly with others (James 3:17–18). They deal with people gently, respectfully, and patiently, and are willing to listen  ithout trying to justify their own position (James 1:19). Effective team players appreciate that a team is made up of individuals with different talents and abilities who can make unique contributions to the team (1 Corinthians 12:12). They know the main priority is to work together smoothly to achieve a goal while showing love to one another (Ephesians 4:16). In summary, good team players have learned how to love their neighbors. Let’s all strive to develop these important skills so we can do God’s Work effectively! 
 
Have a profitable Sabbath,
Douglas S. Winnail
Editor

Dearest Friends at BannedbyHWA

 

Greetings Banneditos!

These are the words of myself to the good folk at BannedbyHWA,  who holds the seven stars in my right hand and walks among the seven golden lampstands: 2 I know your deeds, your hard work, and your perseverance. I know that you cannot tolerate wicked men, that you have tested those who claim to be apostles but are not, and have found them false. 3 You have persevered and have endured hardships for my name, and have not grown weary...

It has come to my attention that "Apostle", I never knew him, David C Pack is spreading, and I mean spreading, the rumor that I will be returning tomorrow.  As well, I am supposed to return to the Land of Ohio, of which I have never heard.  Besides, it is Super Bowl Weekend. Why would I return on Super Bowl weekend? I have plays to inspire and underdogs to grant their prayers of victory to, or not depending on how I feel.  

So just to be clear.  I have no intention of returning anywhere tomorrow. Dad won't say when I am supposed to but after talking with him, it is clear to me that he is also busy and not trending at all in that direction. Dad does like football however as he says it reminds him of the good old days when he was smiting just about every nation that got in the way of his chosen people.  Speaking of football...who is Bob Thiel?  Love the nicknames.  Bobel-on and on-ia, Bobbalonia and Bobamiah.  LOL...you guys!  We didn't pick him as a salesman either but when he flaps his arms and hands, the whole Host of Heaven gets a chuckle! And those curtains!  

Dad also said that returning on a Friday would put pressure on keeping the Sabbath Holy and restful.  He's read the Book of Revelation, which BTW, I did not inspire either, and he's leaning more to a return on a Monday so at least we have the majority of the week to clean up before the next Sabbath.

I did pass along all 258 sermons DCP gave on why Dad and I simply have to return on all those dates now past. Dad listened to the first one but pretty quickly delegated to me saying he had no time for such rubbish.  I agreed and neither did I so passed it on to Lucifer thinking perhaps he could get some good ideas out of it all.  He just threw the whole thing in the fire and kinda chuckled asking again "who wrote this?  The name sounds familiar".

At any rate, I'm not returning tomorrow and I just wanted to get that out there.  Just a reminder. I was nailed to a cross, not a boomerang!  Dad and I are seriously thinking of cutting out all these salesmen/middlemen thinking it was a mistake to count on them from the beginning.  Talk about the game "Telephone".  The original conversation got garbled real quick long before it got to David C Pack.  But my sense is he garbled it up one last time just so there was no discernable truth left in the original message. Some humans, evidently, just like to muck up stuff like that for gain and fun. We'll speak with him personally soon enough.

And too,  Dad and I have tweaked the message just enough so I actually don't have to return at all.  We decided to go with you live, you better believe on me, you do, you die and up to Heaven you come!   I called it "the Simplicity in Me" program. I'm really a nice guy and please don't equate me with my Dad's OT attitudes.  And please don't tell him I said that!  I'm working on him. Dave Pack is way way too complicated and frankly, I can't imagine how he managed to keep those people gyrating in their seats as long as he has.  But trust me. There is a rest for the people of God and we have scheduled it to begin this coming Friday evening at Sunset.

Love to all.  You have tried those who say they are Apostles and are not and I thank you!

Good job!

Your Friend

Jesus

PS and too...  I don't consider you scoffers. It wasn't me or dad who came up with that  "a thousand years is as a day and a day as a thousand years."  Whoever wrote that seemed unable to say, "guess we were mistaken" and had to blame someone for "not getting it." I know you are just good observers of the obvious and willing to speak up. Good on ya!


Wednesday, February 3, 2021

PCG on why church members are important


The Philadelphia Church of God has a new article up that regurgitates some stuff Herbert Armstrong wrote decades ago. It is about the "vital" role of members to the church and is from HWA's incredibly boring book, Mystery of the Ages.

Like many things written by church leaders over the decades, it has NOT aged well. It starts right off by making a ludicrous statement:

The individual lay member has his vital part in proclaiming the good news (gospel) to the world. How? Not by going out and himself proclaiming Christ’s message to the neighborhood or to the world. That is done primarily and directly by God’s apostle through radio, television and in print!

There is no better example of Christian values than by the everyday actions of a Christian in his/her everyday life. If they actually believe what they say they believe then they live it and it is apparent to those around them.  It doesn't take some globe-trotting "apostle" who has "prepaid" for his visit with world leaders so he can preach about a "strong hand from someplace." Who needs to hear that kind of crap? That message has had zero impact upon the world while the everyday lives of Christians have made such an impact that Christianity has been an active force for 2,000+ years.

The author, Christ’s apostle [Herbert], can say emphatically that the apostles, evangelists, pastors and elders could not carry on the Work of God without the loyal backing and continual encouragement of the lay members. 
 
Neither can the individual lay member develop and build within him God’s holy, righteous and perfect character without the operations of the apostle, evangelists, pastors and elders. All these various members God has set in His Church are interdependent—mutually dependent on one another. They form a team—an organized spiritual organism—utterly different from any secular and worldly organization!

Christianity, and most religions, all operate as "spiritual organisms". Most are mutually dependant upon the interaction of followers with religious/spiritual leaders. This is not something new that Herbert pulled out of his hat.

Then they get to the real reason the church needs members. Money! 

In general, the whole operation of the Church costs money. Facilities and methods are available to the Church for performance of its commission that did not exist in the first-century world. Without the tithes and generous freewill offerings of lay members, the Church commission could not be performed in today’s world.

Oh, ye of little faith! No church needs an extravagant campus. No church needs a multi-million dollar concert hall. No church needs private jets. No church needs faculty rows and housing for its elite ministers on the cult compounds in Edmond and Wadsworth. No church needs any of that. It doesn't even need its leaders going to speak to leaders of nations in the world. 

Oh, and don't forget, church leaders need the support of the members because of the INTENSE persecution they all suffer.

Without the fervent and prevailing continual prayers of all members, the Work could not be accomplished. Without the continual ENCOURAGEMENT of lay members and those over them locally, those of us operating from headquarters could not bear up under the persecutions, oppositions, trials and frustrations.

Every "persecution" PCG faces and COG's as a whole are because of their own perverse actions. When they run off at the mouth and say dumb things, treat members like crap, and make utterly asinine prophecies, they have no right to claim persecution, opposition, trials, and frustrations. These idiots brought it upon themselves. 

Also in reverse, the lay members need just as urgently the encouragement, teaching, counseling and leadership from headquarters and local pastors.

Oh no, they don't! Considering how awful the leadership is in so many of the COG's and the fact that 99.50% of them actually have no training in real counseling presents to church members things they do NOT need. 

The “loner”—the “individual Christian,” who wants to climb up into the Kingdom some other way than by Christ and His way through His Church—is not being trained in Christ’s manner of training, to rule and reign with Christ in His Kingdom!

While it is true that Christian is a "communal" faith that creates the need for community in order for the faith to grow it is not a training ground for "proper church government" nor for becoming god as Christ is god.

The Kingdom of God will be the God Family—a superbly and highly trained and organized family of God beings. The Church is God’s special school for training those He has selected and called to be trained in His Church—to be kings and priests, to rule and to teach—for their part in that Kingdom. Only those so trained in the Church will be kings and priests in the Kingdom of God.

Pure bunk. Millions of Christians down through the centuries who have never been part of an Armstrongist COG are immediately cast aside by such flippant remarks. If the soon-coming Kingdom of God is going to be comprised of current COG leadership and certain members then the licking flames of the lake of fire would be more compassionate. Can you imagine 1,000 years being ruled over by the Flurry clan and their followers? Or, Dave Pack and his ministers? Or, even Bob Thiel. Nothing could ever be more frightening!

The sad thing is that over the 80 years existence of this version of the Church of God we have had piss-poor leadership, horrendous abuses dished out on members, hundreds of false prophets, heretical teachings, and morally bankrupt leadership. 

Never has the COG NOT been an example of first-century Christianity than it is today. 

See The Vital Role of a Church Member