Sunday, April 23, 2023

Is Silver Important For Your Salvation?

 

Imagine if you can, being a member of the improperly named "continuing" Church of "god" and you have just received an email from your Great Overseer announcing his latest message. By this time you have gotten used to the bouncing and flouncing the Great Overseer does when he speaks and yet you are eager to hear more about Christ and his salvational works. You get your laptop out as you put on your Sabbath wear to listen to God's word expounded upon by the world's greatest prophet. Even better, the Great Overseer is being "interviewed by Steven Dupuie, one of Bob's loyal sycophants. Ready for the amazing message you are about to hear you open your Bible to the New Testament stories of Jesus, eager to follow along.

Then, low and behold, it is not about Jesus or anything he accomplished, but is instead about silver! SILVER! WTH???

This is the kind of useless crap that Bob Thiel tries to pass off as necessary for one's walk with Christ.

What is silver? 
 
What is it used for? 
 
How long has it been used? 
 
Will it have use in the future? 
 
There was an archaeological discovery that concluded that silver was used as a form of payment 3,700 years ago in the Levant (roughly the area of Israel, Lebanon, and Syria)--that was 500 years earlier than many thought it had been used there. 
 
Was silver shown to be used even a couple of centuries earlier than that by Abraham in the Bible? 
 
What is dross? 
 
Did ancient Rome have dross coins? 
 
Did the USA switch to dross coins instead of silver in 1965? 
 
Does the Bible teach against the use of dross? 
 
Does the Bible prophesy that silver will have value into the Great Tribulation? 
 
Are there Greco-Roman Catholic prophecies pointing to Great Monarch amassing precious metals and the Antichrist using wealth as bait? 
 
Will there be a time when people toss their silver into the street? 
 
Are there any radioactive risks with silver? 
 
Will gold and silver have value in the millennium? 
 
What does the word of God teach is more valuable than gold or silver? 
 
What should you invest in? 
 
Steve Dupuie and Dr. Thiel address these issues.

 



 

Dave Pack Now Playing Ping-Pong With Himself

 

Ping-Pong

 

David C. Pack continues to deteriorate as each reinvention of his religious construct induces further delusions. Emboldened by the drowsy apathy of the brethren and the fatigued capitulation of the Headquarters hirelings, the Pastor General of The Restored Church of God operates unfettered as his deception tactics slide further into darkness.

 

The 1335 of Daniel 12:12 was reset after the February false start. Only those who read between the lines would notice.

 

The second Passover occurring on Iyar 15 was repeated, but Dave avoided reading the verses revealing it is on Iyar 14. Only those who read between the lines would notice.

 

The four-kingdom structure was resurrected through scattered comments and pointing. Only those who read between the lines AND watched the video would notice.

 

All the members of RCG who listened to “The Greatest Unending Story! (Part 436)” in their cars or while jogging missed the titanic shifts. They have yet to learn to keep their eyes on the hands of that pickpocket they foolishly trusted to make it plain.

 

Brethren of The Restored Church of God are forced to watch David C. Pack play Ping-Pong against himself. He is the Quicksilver of Bible prophecy stationed at both ends of the table, zipping back and forth as members tweak their necks, trying to follow the perpetual rebound.

 

With each hit from the right side of the table, members are compelled to fully agree.

 

With each hit from the left side of the table, members are compelled to fully agree.

 

Multiply that action by 436 for over seven years. Maybe folks are not surrendering their Common because they spend that money on chiropractors and Bengay.

 

 

We now return to our regularly scheduled format.

 

Part 436 – April 20, 2023

@ 00:02 This will be the single most important sermon I’ve ever given. You won’t doubt it. Or, if I lived twenty more years and we had to wait twenty more years that I ever could give.

 

David C. Pack only lives in the present. He forgets the past and disregards the consequences of the future. When he says things like this, at the moment, his self-fabricated reality allows him to believe it.

 

Part 275 – December 26, 2020

@ 08:53 It’s the single most important message (probably) ever delivered on Earth.

 

Part 254 – June 1, 2020

@ 32:48 This is the most spectacular thing anybody’s ever been allowed to explain.

 

Part 288 – February 24, 2021

@ 00:03 Well, today and tomorrow will come to the most important information I’ve ever given in my life.

 

Once we all pass the May 6 threshold and King Charles III is crowned, Part 436 will never be referred to as “the single most” anything ever again.

 

The RCG brethren are forced to watch a Ping-Pong match with which message is the most super-duper. This one. No, this one. This one. No, this one.

 

 

According to Elijah-Elect, there have been some staffing changes in the Man of Sin Department due to a stealth shuffle in the kingdom schedule.

 

Part 436 – April 20, 2023

@ 16:48 So this is a monster the likes of which the world has never seen. But, it cannot be Nebuchadnezzar.He’s a year later. It cannot be the Seventh Head. Or the Eighth Head, of course. It has to be somebody here.

 

Whether this is a promotion or demotion is yet unknown.

 

@ 24:22 So then, we’re waiting for Christ on the throne of His glory when He’s the Anointed One and in power, He takes out the Man of Sin. Who I do not believe is Judas anymore because he’s part of a system.

 

@ 24:40 He [Man of Sin] is not the Seventh Head and is not Nebuchadnezzar. If he’s Judas, it would be a great surprise. A great surprise.

 

There will be plenty of “great surprises” for David C. Pack when Jesus Christ returns to bring the Kingdom of God. That is not a room I would want to be in.

 

This remix of the Bible meanies points to David C. Pack owing Judas an apology if they ever meet.

 

@ 59:46 There’s a monster coming called an antichrist. He’s working against Christ’s purpose. And the antichrist would appear before Christ’s Kingdom, not after it.

 

The Man of Sin was revealed twice as Pope Francis by David C. Pack. But, then, the RCG stage was given to Balaam, Judas Iscariot, and Nebuchadnezzar.

 

The identity of the Man of Sin 2023 Edition was left TBD until Part 437. The Three Shepherds of Zechariah 11 will also be re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-explored. Again.

 

The RCG brethren are forced to watch a Ping-Pong match with the Man of Sin. It's this guy. Nope, this guy. It's this guy. Nope, this guy.

 

 

It is funny how the wackiest of Brain Babies in David C. Pack’s head will not pass through the birth canal. The oddest doctrines turn breech dragging out the labor of hearing them randomly throughout the Series.

 

Zechariah 8:23 is a prime example. Dave’s piss-poor reading comprehension conceives more wild private interpretation. Without consent, I might add.

 

These kinds of thoughts belong in David C. Pack’s Gallery of Stupid. He introduced the idea of only ten languages on Earth during the Kingdom of God in February. Like the theory of the Queen Elizabeth crown never being worn again, this ten languages bit was not previously covered.

 

Flashback Part 419 – February 14, 2023

@ 1:19:47 "Ten men shall take hold out of ALL languages of the nations, even shall take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew, saying, we have heard we will go with you: for we’ve heard that God is with you.” That’s not the First Kingdom. They get the wrath to the end. There will be ten languages. All nations will break out to ten languages. If there’s some other meaning, I don’t know what it is.

 

The other meaning is: Ten men “out of all languages” is correct. “Mankind having only ten languages” is not. But, whatever.

 

@ 1:21:43 So, we’ve resolved the problem of languages. Everybody is bilingual. And all peoples on Earth are gonna keep ten languages. There're gonna be ten. Now, why would that be? Because God does not want everybody mixing together. He knows where that leads…People are not to intermarry. If they're stuck with a language, then they're gonna stay in one place…But I thought you would find that fascinating.

 

He blended this into the “pure language” of Zephaniah 3:9. There will ONLY be ten human languages alongside one pure language. Everyone will be bilingual. Get it?

 

Solomon said there is nothing new under the sun, but he never heard David C. Pack.

 

Part 436 – April 20, 2023

@ 43:38 There gonna be men of ten languages, and I don’t know how many races and ethnic groups will exist. This is gonna be a structured kingdom that goes on forever.

 

Is this Dave’s god’s version of ethnic cleansing? Dave ponders if some races and ethnic groups will cease to exist. Suggest to him Caucasians will be absorbed into others and watch him choke on his broccoli.

 

Does that mean a person goes to bed Tongan and wakes up Hispanic? Are all Filipinos turned Chinese the next time they look in the mirror? Do people of mixed race have to flip a coin and settle on one? How would that even work?

 

Who are the lucky non-whites who get to sit at the Whites Only table with Elijah after their change comes? Is there an organized lottery system, or is it impartial and random, like Thanos would suggest?

 

When all humans receive a spirit body, race and ethnicity will not matter. But in the flesh, it seems like a complicated matter for some people to switch racial teams. Is the current genetic makeup of the modern world "too complicated" to manage efficiently?

 

Even ancient Israel got to enjoy having twelve tribes.

 

Will your parents become a different race than you because they drew the short straw? “I’m black now, but my parents are both Asian. We’ll have to retake our K-Mart family portrait.”

 

I am not calling David C. Pack a racist. But race is on his mind. He thinks about it enough to keep mentioning it to the church. That is okay because David C. Pack’s Gallery of Stupid keeps growing.

 

 

David C. Pack cannot seem to avoid finding himself in the Bible. On an average day, I wonder how many personal conversations are invaded by that reminder.

 

@ 26:46  “…and the counsel of peace shall be between them both.” [Zechariah 6:13] Now, it’s written so that it’s either between God and Christ or between Christ and {I} Elijah. I think that’s the more obvious reason.

 

For the love of Pete. When the choice is between the Father and King David Passed Over, it is obvious to side with Team Dave? In his mind, he is the more likely candidate. That is humility in action.

 

I would not trust David C. Pack to counsel peace with someone torn between ordering wheat or rye toast.

 

The first time he misinterpreted 1 Samuel 2 as being about him, I had a pit in my stomach. I was quietly disgusted in the Main Hall at Headquarters. I was not yet ready to leave, so I kept my mouth shut.

 

And here we are years later. No one at Headquarters challenges Dave's claims, so it must be true until he determines it is not.

 

@ 46:40 “…on Hophni and Phinehas; in one day they shall die both of them…And I will raise me up a faithful priest, that shall do according to that which is in my heart and in my mind: and I will build him a sure house; and he shall walk before my anointed every day.”…So, this when {I} Elijah stands in front of Christ every day…“And it shall come to pass that everyone that is left in your house” (Eli) “shall come and crouch to him” (Why? Because they'll crouch to all of us, we're in the family of God. They're gonna bend over. They’re worshipping us.) “crouch to him for a piece of silver and a morsel of bread…”

 

He often lumps the brethren in, but that is not usually the primary focus. The idea of people bowing before Dave strains the integrity of his Depends. The thought of his critics being tossed into the Lake of Fire weakens his knees.

 

The realization that chapters 1 and 2 are setting up the introduction of, you know, Samuel is open to interpretation. The book is called Samuel. The book is about Samuel and his journey with Saul and King David.

 

But the faithful priest is Elijah-Elect David Crowl Pack. This is not based on Bible evidence but an old-fashioned "because I said so."

 

The RCG brethren are forced to watch a Ping-Pong match with where David C. Pack appears in the Bible. I’m here. I’m also here. I’m here. I’m also here. Just assume it’s me until I say it’s not.

 

 

Extreme Irony Alert

 

@ 50:16 “All power, signs, and lying wonders. All deceivableness of unrighteousness.” I can’t fathom what could take out people who may have served God ten, thirty, or fifty years of their life, and they’re gone in a few days. They can’t tell the difference between God’s truth and the deceit of this guy [Man of Sin]. Time comes when they'll heap to themselves teachers having itching ears, and it won’t end well for some of them.

 

God has a sense of humor and is a fan of irony. Words fall from David C. Pack's lips, and he has no idea what he is saying.

 

The Restored Church of God has heaped up one helluva teacher for themselves that entered in among them. The Headquarters enablers can be grouped into this because they support the biblical fraud through silence, spin, and feigned agreement.

 

The deceit of this guy is front and center. Documented and proven lies. Documented and proven blasphemy. Documented and proven manipulation.

 

And yet, the members cannot tell the difference between God’s truth and what David C. Pack teaches.

 

The RCG brethren are forced to watch a Ping-Pong match with the return of Jesus Christ. It’s Thanksgiving. No, it’s Christmas. It’s New Year’s. No, it’s Purim. It’s the Night To Be Much Observed. No, it’s the Third Day of Unleavened Bread. It’s the second Passover. No, it’s before May 5.

 

If folks are waiting for someone else to come along and stop the game, they will be waiting a long time.

 

 

 Marc Cebrian

See: Ping-Pong

Sneaky Dave



Kingdom Pickpocket

 

David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God has entered a new level of mastery for manipulation and sophistry. He has been described as a magician before, but he fully claimed that mantle during "The Greatest Untold Story! (Part 436)," given on April 20, 2023.

 

I have to admit that he got me. I fell for it. He tricked me. Looking back, I can see how I got scammed, but I was not aware while it was happening. That is a trademark of skilled con artists. I feel pretty foolish as I write this. I am also a tad embarrassed. But I only have myself to blame.

 

I took David C. Pack at his word only, which burned me. If anyone in The Restored Church of God only listens to their Pastor General, they will get burned, too.

 

After hearing Part 436, I came to some conclusions. Up front, know these conclusions were wrong.

 

The First 1-Year Kingdom of God does NOT come on May 5.

The Second 7-Year Kingdom of God now comes on May 5.

The First Kingdom cannot be one year if it ends before May 5.

There was a grievously confusing misspeak in the middle of Part 436.

 

Hearing Part 436 does not tell the whole story. And David C. Pack knows that.

 

Once again, the table made a familiar appearance, with the glass kitchenware representing the imminent plan of the Kingdoms in God.

 

Glass 1 – First Kingdom of God: One Year

Glass 7 – Second Kingdom of God: Seven Years

Glass 1,000 – Third Kingdom of God: One Thousand Years



What is very hard to see is the new element beside Glass 1. The thimble. You would not know it existed if you did not watch Part 436 as a video. That thimble changes everything.

 

 

If anyone else is trying to follow David C. Pack’s logic, good luck to you. You will have the struggle of your life. At times, it feels like observing someone exhibiting the onset of early stages of dementia or Alzheimer’s. That is not a joke. His delivery is the very antithesis of making things plain.

 

Part 436 started out like a typical message, and it lulled me into a familiar sense of normalcy that would pave the road to my undoing.

 

Part 436 – April 20, 2023

@ 00:02 This will be the single most important sermon I’ve ever given. You won’t doubt it. Or, if I lived twenty more years and we had to wait twenty more years that I ever could give.

 

The brethren would settle for the single most accurate sermon that would prove to be important after it came to pass. Otherwise, this is more of David C. Pack self-congratulating himself.

 

Oh, how naĂŻve I was. Writing my little comments while I listened rather than commenting after I heard it all twice. Things need to change at exrcg.org going forward.

 

 

Dave describes the Kingdom of God everyone is waiting and praying for. I watched the video in this area so I could follow along.

 

@ 03:15 Most of my life, I thought it was this one [1000 years]. Then, we came to believe it was this one [7 years]. The question is, is it this one [1 year]? Because the Kingdom of God (full-on in every sense) in every way would bring everything that the Kingdom of God was ever foretold to bring. Now, Christ said that He came to proclaim to preach the acceptable year.

 

This rehashed what the audience already knew. Or, so I thought. Already the manipulation was in play, but I did not yet know it.

 

I had to listen to this message twice. Once as audio. A second pass as video. There is a world of difference. To help the skimmers get the highlights so they can move on to other things, here is the punchline:

 

David C. Pack subtly added a fourth kingdom to God’s plan in front.

David C. Pack renumbered the kingdoms of the 1-7-1000 glasses.

David C. Pack moved the return of Jesus Christ to before the Kingdom of God.

May 5 is still the arrival of the Kingdom of God, but it is now called “the Second Kingdom.”

 

Those are gigantic shifts that were all unnoticed until after watching Part 436. How can you get such a different impression from the Bible study when listening versus watching?

 

Pointing

 

David C. Pack points so he can change the language used up until now. The facts you thought were facts were changed without him saying so. All he had to do was point, and the change was made. Blink, and you missed it. Look down to write a note and you missed it.

 

This technique is the most devious I have witnessed. This repeated quote has a new context.

 

@ 03:15 Most of my life, I thought it was this one. Then, we came to believe it was this one. The question is, is it this one? Because the Kingdom of God (full-on in every sense) in every way would bring everything that the Kingdom of God was ever foretold to bring.

 

He did not call the 1-7-1000 Kingdoms of God the First, Second, and Third. He had through Part 435, but not here. Why? Because he changed them. But you would not know that until you watched the entire message.

 

Pointing hid the changes while you watched him. He pulls a relabeling switcheroo right under your nose. 

 

As he describes the kingdoms and what-happens-when, he avoids calling Glass 1 “the First Kingdom.” Until he is ready to reveal the foundational change late in the message.

 

@ 58:44 But for now, I want you to walk outta here and know that if it is this year, May 5th is a lock for the Second Kingdom. ‘Cause there’s no way you’re gonna add anything to this. You can't get to eleven kingdoms, and Mr. Pack (maybe) missing eight kingdoms here. 

 

You would think he is talking about the Second 7-Year Kingdom of God.

 

But now, watch:



Glass 1 has always been the First Kingdom of God when Jesus Christ returns. But, fifty-eight minutes into Part 436, it is the Second Kingdom. He changes the language by pointing. This is more nefarious than resetting the 1335 without telling you he did it.

 

His manipulation is more calculated and bold than in times past. All this was done to avoid the embarrassment of stating, "The plan is back to four kingdoms, brethren." Members would have uncomfortable flashbacks of the not-the-Kingdom-of-God kingdoms before the Kingdom of God.

 

Flashback Part 415 - January 17, 2023

1:06:24 Now, we never saw or understood this. It’s not remotely what anybody has ever understood. And I been looking at this, as you know, for like 20,000 hours. For years trying to put it together. Three Kingdoms. Four. Three. Four. Three. Four. Three. Four.

 

Is RCG back to a partial month, or 10-days, or 5-days, or 3 ½ days before the Kingdom of God kingdom? The answer is Yes, we are. And he did. But he dared not give a duration yet.

 

Throughout the message, the thimble was referred to by pointing or holding as “the Day of Christ,” “the Man of Sin,” “a kingdom,” “the kingdom of Israel,” “a tiny little kingdom,” “tiny witness kingdom,” “some other little kingdom” and “an antichrist period.” So, the Thimble Kingdom is a big deal, if not still a bit opaque.

 

The start and duration of this new First Thimble Kingdom are TBD. Part 437 today should have all the answers you could ever want and more.

 

 

The Thimble Kingdom is prominent when you learn what to watch and listen for.

 

Part 436 – April 20, 2023

@ 19:58 Now, this is startling understanding. No one has had it for many centuries. Took us a long time to find the seven years. But, to pin down what goes first, God just reserved and reserved all the way to the end of the Series till we learned all the other things He wanted us to know because this isn’t the whole story.

 

This next portion is where I should have noticed the fourth kingdom element.

 

@ 20:40 But, there were many, many other things we had to know before God laid this on us in what the Bible says is the days right before {I} he sounds for what would have to be some other little kingdom in front of it. Fifteen days and counting.

 

And here is where Dave grants me my new favorite quote.



@ 41:03 Now, why is this the most important sermon? Let’s just say I don’t care how many times I’ve preached, this Series would be an unequivocal abject failure if it did not end where we had the Kingdom of God in the right place. We just didn't know what kingdom we were seeking.

 

This is a gentle reminder that even IF I fully followed Dave’s understanding from the first listen and nailed down his logic perfectly, the man will still fail no matter what date he sets for the Thimble Kingdom.

 

At this point, May 5 does not matter. May 5 is what happens after the Thimble Kingdom.

 

What happens after NOTHING happens? Well, more nothing. By May 5, nothing will be the headlines in RCG, and nothing will usher in clarification of more nothing.

 

Even if I got fooled into misunderstanding on the first pass, I could listen a thousand times and memorize every word from Dave's mouth, and it would not make the man any closer to being accurate or led by God. David C. Pack is a false apostle and a false prophet, no matter which underhanded, sneaky tactics he uses to slide changes past the brethren crossing his fingers that they do not connect the dots.

 

I fear most are too asleep and too willfully blind to notice. Or care. How much do you want to bet that the non-listener, non-note taker percentages are still on the upswing? Part 436 would break your brain if it was not broken already.

 

 

The Thimble Kingdom may be short-ish, but the picture is far from rosy.

 

@ 1:13:02 How would you characterize Christ arriving for a year? Here’s what Christ says, “I come to cast violent fire into the earth. Or, I’m coming with the Kingdom of God.” Do they sound like the same thing? No. When Christ comes initially, He is not bringing the throne of His glory and paradise and a Great Supper for seven days, the second Passover. He characterizes His initial coming to a little flock saying, “I come to send violent fire.” To cast it. To, literally, wind up like a fastball and throw it at the earth. So, that’s a totally different coming to a little flock who knows the score. Who has the full picture. There’s a fire enkindled because there’s some people too stupid…to not leave. They leave. They blew off protection and eternal life first. 

 

Some RCG brethren are too stupid to stay. What a wonderful pep-talk that warms the heart with a clear expression of outgoing love and concern from the Pastor General.

 

Jesus Christ comes before the Kingdom of God now. That is a significant update.

 

 

From now on, David C. Pack should be scrutinized as you would a pickpocket. You must always observe his hands, or you may not realize your wallet is missing. Or your kingdom understanding was blown up.

 

Identifying this technique sheds new light when he carefully worded the conclusion.

 

@ 1:22:32 But when does Christ come to Joseph? It would have to be the little kingdom before May 5th. We’ll know well before May 5th if it’s not this year. You won’t have to wait till May 5th because now you know the First Kingdom is not May 5th. The First Kingdom is over that day, and a horrific period is over that day. And I'm gonna tell you about it (more about it). I'll see ya Sabbath. Good night.



He appears to change the date without changing the date. David C. Pack is more cryptic than ever before. Look out, folks.

 

During Part 435 on April 15, 2023, the First Kingdom was the 1-Year Kingdom of God, and the second Passover on Iyar 15 was the focus.

 

During Part 436 on April 20, 2023, the First Kingdom is not the Kingdom of God and happens before May 5. The Second Kingdom is the 1-Year Kingdom of God that occurs on May 5. The second Passover was only mentioned once. Maybe news of it actually being on Iyar 14 reached Dave’s desk. That is hard to know because Dr. Timothy Ranney never called me back. So much for being the Public Relations guy.

 

The author of confusion compiled the notes for Part 436. Deceit and cunning aided in the delivery.

 

He has adopted pointing as an effective way of communicating prophetic doctrines. He uses literal sleight of hand so he can dramatically change the framework without tipping you off he is dramatically changing the framework. Language is massaged and carefully chosen.

 

Keep an eye on David C. Pack. Do not get duped by him as I did.


Marc Cebrian

See: Kingdom Pickpocket