Greco-Roman COG Con-artist Takes Questions At Feast And Acts Like It Is A Big Deal

God sure knew what he was doing when he was forming the foundations of the earth so that in these perilous end times, a prophet would arise who would be filled with all the knowledge that true believers need to know.

Never has the church had such a magnificent prophet/apostle/Joshua/Elisha/Elijah in its midst who surpasses all revealed truth from Herbert Armstrong?.

Our most highly favored God to be, the Great Bwana Bob Mzungu Thiel had this to say about his question and answer session at the Feast on prophecy.

CCOG Q&A: Prophetic Questions in Galveston

For this sermon, Dr. Thiel took written questions from people attending the Feast of Tabernacles in Galveston, Texas. He did not see the questions until he saw them while doing the sermon. Questions/topics addressed included whether or not there would be a future Zerubbabel and Joshua, the “teachers of Isaiah 30:20, the timing of the ‘Day of the Lord’ and the 6,000 years, if there is a relationship between the timing of Habakkuk 2:6-8 and Daniel 11:39, the sequence of Daniel 11 and the King of the North, Greco-Roman Catholic prophecies and Satan’s plan, why Muslims will turn against the King of the North, when Satan is cast out of heaven, Sabbath matters, whether Philadelphians would be subject to deadly persecution, the canon of the Bible, the short work, forgiveness, whether or not the serpent Eve saw looked like a snake, the timing of Matthew 24:29, having servants and maids in the Millennium, and the timing of Ephraim and Manasseh turning against Judah, plus comments related to the Beast, Islam, crosses, and the Antichrist. Dr. Thiel commented on each and every question that was submitted.

The Danger in "The God Given Purpose"

 

"Isn't it fantastic that if there is no purpose you have nothing to fulfill. You can just live. 

But no. You want a purpose and not just a simple purpose, but a God given purpose.

It's very dangerous. People who think they have a God given purpose are doing the cruelest things on the planet. They are doing the most horrible things. And they have always been doing the most horrible things. Because when you are given a God given purpose, life here becomes less important than your purpose."

Sadguru-Stop Looking for Purpose

 I couldn't help but think the how true that is when reading the previous post about the trials and tests of Samuel Kitchen as he runs around the planet seeking and fulfilling his perceived God Given Purpose. What a mess he is. The God given purpose can do that to you. 

I don't recall much emphasis, if there was any at all, on having a God given purpose growing up in the Dutch Reformed Church. I never heard the phrase and knew no one striving to find it or fulfill it in that context. We just lived our lives and found meaning wherever it presented itself. That is my recollection.  My parents found meaning in volunteering for the Red Cross or the State School where my brother resided. That was enough. 

But when I discovered The Worldwide Church of God at 14 in a world of assassinations, racial upheaval and war in the Middle East, I became convinced my purpose was to respond to being chosen and have a good explanation as to the oft asked question once in the church, but yet unknown, "So, how did you come into the truth?"

Not only that, my God given purpose was to become a Pastor. That was my personal goal when I went to AC. However, the first student assembly there, GTA warned us all that if anyone came here "to be a minister", to get that out of your head.  What!?  I thought this was a seminary?  (I was naive about the WCG and AC as well as the Armstrongs).  I recall my thought being, "We'll see about that", but kept and pondered these things in my heart. It was kinda like being told in advanced public speaking class by the instructor/minister "No one get's an "A" in my class".  Uh huh...we'll see.  He was mistaken. 

From then on, it was game on.  My purpose was to become a King or a Priest in the Wonderful World Tomorrow. To rule over 10 cities, or 5 or just 1 if I was a lazy ass or had less than stellar enthusiasm for my God given purpose. Personally, I never cared for the idea of ruling cities. I would have more hoped for a nice log home, along a lake in the Adirondacks and basically being left alone with a few good friends in the surrounding Wonderful World Tomorrow community. 

My perception of being a Priest or King was that those positions, back in Biblical and Medieval times were probably considered the premier positions as opposed to the peasant population, so that seemed like great positions to aspire to in that miserable and mundane setting the average person had to endure just to get by. 

My God given purpose was also to attend the FOT with 3 services a day. Morning, afternoon and evening, at least at first, until exhaustion and illness caught up with way too many, marriages were getting a bit frayed, and the kids were beginning already to hate church. I recall thinking at 18 when I attended my first FOT at Squaw Valley, these folk are a bit too driven, but I really think it was just a way to give every hot shot HQ minister some sermon time, at the expense of everyone's attitudes, to serve not God, but ego.  But that's just me. 

It hadn't yet dawned on me that "Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven," (Matthew 5:19) could be taken to mean "no worries, at least I made it" :)

So for the next 30 years, I invested in my God given purpose. To preach the good news of the Kingdom of God both to inspire and motivate. Then of course, the Deity and Jesus must have gotten bored with that purpose and changed it, working a "miracle in the Church".

 Now we had a different God given purpose, and I personally had better get onboard and preach it or else. The new God given purpose was to magnify his Son, honor him through new, but not new of course, Holy Days of Christmas and Easter and eschew all things in the previous God given purpose. Of course, this was all done on purpose. 

I was no longer interested in the concept of the God given purpose and I thank God that I never hopped over to those insisting on the old God given purpose or those all emotionally attaching to new one, which, of course, was not new at all. It was just new to them. For me it was the reinvention of the wheel. Not interested. 

From all of this, my personal conclusion in the whole matter was that the Deity and Jesus are tricksters who would have known that when I sought my original, because I was chosen, had "come into the truth" and now had my God given purpose, but it really wasn't that at all and decades on the ruse would be revealed. Being suspicious of the new God given purpose and having already experienced that the first quarter of my life, I don't find a need any more to have such lofty goals or purpose.

The obsessions and compulsive behaviors one can come up with to fulfill their God given purpose are myriad and not a bit frightening. They can tear your family apart and leave you not a bit broke if one attaches oneself to, say, a Gerald Flurry, Dave Pack or others not only obsessed with their own purpose but in need of being in charge of inflicting it upon others at great cost. 

 The world, indeed, is full of examples of the perils and dangers in having one's own God given purpose which conflict with the God given purposes of others.  

So I agree with...

" People who think they have a God given purpose are doing the cruelest things on the planet. They are doing the most horrible things. And they have always been doing the most horrible things. Because when you are given a God given purpose, life here becomes less important than your purpose."

Poor Samuel Kitchen is a really good example of a really bad view of himself and the folly of "The God Given Purpose". 

"If you have balance, then you can climb. If you don't have balance, then it is better you stay on the ground. It's not safe for somebody who is not balanced to climb high. It is best you stay close to the ground. Then you should not climb"

"If you are looking for a purpose, you are seeking madness. If you find one, you are sure mad. If you think you have found a purpose in life, you for sure gone crazy. Because only insane people have purpose. Or people who have purpose are insane in many ways. "

"If you think this is your purpose (to fight for "my country") you will destroy the whole world for the nonsense you believe in"

"The purpose in life is to live"

 

Petra: Round 2-Another Failure

Two years ago, Samuel Kitchen headed off to Jerusalem to usher in the end times and gather the faithful Worldwide Church of God members. Devious crooks conned him with hotel reservations, and he had to leave Jerusalem and head off to Petra, where God had placed his name for the Feast. That turned into a major catastrophe that drove a wedge between his brothers and broke other relationships.

Never one to learn a lesson from the debacle, he is back this year in Petra for round 2 after Turkey ruined his orginal plans. This will once again will most assuredly be another bust.

Good morning brethren, 

 

I’ve been awake for almost 4 hours now already. I was awakened this morning in Petra, Jordan by a voice saying “What’s this, Samuel?” And since then i haven’t been able to go back asleep. 

 

And now, almost 7am in the morning, I am in my room asking God and contemplating why I have returned to Petra. 

 

Earlier in the year, I was actually looking into Egypt, to visit Mt. Sinai and to contemplate God’s great work there, during the Feast of Tabernacles.  

 

I was spurred to look for friendly countries, after listening to Gerald Waterhouse give a sermon, and after some prayer and research I settled on Egypt. I even purchased a plane tickets for my younger brother.  

 

I had booked our tickets through Turkish Airlines, and I was kind of nervous doing that considering the history of the Turkish people and the prophecies of the Bible.(Particularly Obadiah). 

 

Our 15hr layover was going to be in Istanbul, Turkey.  

 

Well a few weeks ago, Turkish airlines cancelled our connecting flight from Istanbul to Egypt, causing the cancellation of the entire trip.  

 

I began looking at inland United States, along the Florida, and Alabama coastlines, and wasn’t having any luck finding a suitable place to keep the Feast of Tabernacles. 

 

I even looked along the eastern coastline, and even looked at European, and Asian countries, asking God to open a door to where He placed His name. 

 

Then I remembered, God did place His name here in Petra! In 2022, when God’s people were planning on assembling in Jerusalem, we were guided by Jesus Christ to Petra, Jordan. 

 

Last year I kept the Feast in Philadelphia, PA, and the worldwidechurchofgod.org website was started. Its function was to facilitate the ASSEMBLING of the membership of the Worldwide Church of God, and to show we are not completely destroyed as some assume. 

 

I find it interesting that it was in PHILADELPHIA that this world started forward in such a manner.  

 

But now this year, I was anticipating distress here in the United States, especially during the election year. I started to look at friendly countries that supported Mr Armstrong. I looked in Africa, and finally landed on Egypt.  

 

I realized how reasonable the prices were to travel there, and I sought to visit Mt. Sinai, and stay there for the duration of this years Feast of Tabernacles.  

 

Suddenly $2,000+ landed in my hands from new customers and I had the ability to purchase tickets and reserve hotel stays. So I did. I knew that it was safe in God’s hands. He provided the money, and even though I was struggling financially, I decided to put God first, and make sure His Feast and Holy Days were taken care of first! 

 

As we approached Feast time, with the upset and troubles in the Middle East, airports began to close. Our way into Egypt, was through Turkey. 

 

And when they cancelled, the book of Obadiah came instantly to my mind.

“For thy violence against thy brother Jacob shame shall cover thee, and thou shalt be cut off for ever.

“In the day that thou stoodest on the other side, in the day that the strangers carried away captive his forces, and foreigners entered into his gates, and cast lots upon Jerusalem, even thou wast as one of them.(against God’s Church)

“But thou shouldest not have looked on the day of thy brother in the day that he became a stranger; neither shouldest thou have rejoiced over the children of Judah in the day of their destruction; neither shouldest thou have spoken proudly in the day of distress.

“Thou shouldest not have entered into the gate of my people in the day of their calamity; (into the congregations of the Worldwide Church of God)yea, thou shouldest not have looked on their affliction in the day of their calamity, nor have laid hands on their substance in the day of their calamity”(verses 10-13)

We begin to see who took the “substance” of the WCG organization, should NOT have done such.

“Neither shouldest thou have stood in the crossway, to cut off those of his that did escape; neither shouldest thou have delivered up those of his that did remain in the day of distress.”(verse 14)

Now, those of the Worldwide Church of God was persecuted!(Rev. 12:13) We were targeted with oppression, in order to NOT assemble together.

What happened was the membership of the Worldwide Church of God was forced to assemble in other churches and other groups! (And they used the name of “the Church of God” to cast the net over them! The wolves did the pushing, to force the flock into a scattered condition, where a “network” worked on the people! No longer were they together as they were assembled under Christ’s apostle Herbert W Armstrong!

It’s been a real battle to reassemble as the Worldwide Church of God, doing it God’s way! My family did so under great scrutiny, and peril.

So much so, new church groups and websites were started to copy us and our work, and their goal was to eliminate the warning message to our Laodicean brethren!!

My family was hit tremendously, and some have died in this battle to assemble as God has called us to assemble!

So in 2022, I sought to declare the continued existence of the Worldwide Church of God here in Jerusalem. As soon as that was declared, and as soon as we met up with fellow brethren, we were moved to Petra, Jordan. There we kept the Holy Days and the Festivals of God! It was made crystal clear where God placed His name!

So as I looked at friendly countries, and as plans began to fall through, I was looking at Egypt. I found a scripture in 1 Kings 19, where Elijah fearing for his life, thinking he was the ONLY SERVANT OF GOD LEFT ON EARTH, fled Jezebel’s slaughter and ran into the wilderness a day, and was prepared to die. He asked God to kill him. But God gave him food and strength and he continued his journey to Mt. Sinai!

There wind, earthquakes and fires were persecuting Elijah! God’s Word says “The Lord wasn’t in them”. Now who was behind those things and using those things, if God wasn’t? Satan the Devil wanted Elijah dead.

Now here was Elijah at Mt. Sinai, now located in modern Egypt, facing great persecution. Then he heard the voice of God, and there you see the man of Gid responding!

The Lord asked him “Why are you here, Elijah?” Elijah responded saying “And he said, I have been very jealous for the Lord God of hosts: because the children of Israel have forsaken thy covenant, thrown down thine altars, and slain thy prophets with the sword; and I, even I only, am left; and they seek my life, to take it away.”(verse 14)

God asked him again, “Why are you here, Elijah?” And again Elijah repeated what he said before!

Elijah came to Mt.Sinai, his entire life focused on the work of God. He was fleeing an unsafe environment, trying to stay alive to finish what was given him to do. He had thoughts he was done, so he asked for death.

But God was yet to FINISH the Elijah work, and God orders Elijah to return.

So after looking at Egypt, I found this scripture, and thought I was to go to Egypt. But then Modern day Edom, and Esau, which is Turkey, stopped my ability to go there. So I began to think on why I looked at Mt. Sinai, and God’s question to Elijah kept coming back to me. Why there? God says go back to “this location” to finish the job. Back to where God placed HIS NAME, and Elijah went back with the name of God stamped on him!

And so coming back to Petra, is very interesting. There aren’t any brethren here with me. I’m alone. But many brethren are with me in spirit, and have joined with me via The Worldwide Church of God website, where they are!

This past year, Satan has inspired some to rise up to claim the name of God’s true Church, and to have approval from Caesar against us. To keep us from assembling without their involvement.

So as far as I know, Petra, Jordan is the Headquarters of God’s True Church right now! He has placed His name here, and no other impostor can erase this fact!

All the prophecies of this Church shows this Church going into “her place”(Revelation 12:14). She isn’t recognized as having ANY OTHER PLACE TO GO!

So while others are assembling in Tennessee and other places which are convenient for them, God’s Church is and will end up assembling where God says is HER PLACE!

That is not the word of Samuel Kitchen! God’s Word says this Chirch will go to a place of safety!

Now returning back to Obadiah 1, and the persecution this Chirch is receiving, let’s read verse 16.

“For as ye”…the spiritual edomites who have attempted to rob and destroy the Worldwide Church of God…”have drunk upon my holy mountain, so shall all the heathen drink continually, yea, they shall drink, and they shall swallow down, and they shall be as though they had not been.”

Yes they have been drinking and gobbling up everything this Church (which only has God’s government restored)has put out, so much they even grasp to lay claim of possession on what is NOT theirs!

What is coming, against them, is from Jesus Christ!

And while Christ moved me around the blocking of my path to the Feast, and led me safely back to where his name was placed, perhaps my job is to once again announce where God’s Church, the Worldwide Church of God is headquarter and based out of!!!

Last year, even some from other groups, had to flee Jerusalem to Jordan to escape war. I think that highlights this even more!

The Worldwide Church of God is alive! And I’m here in Petra, Jordan hosting online for brethren all around the world.

Listen to God’s apostle, and the ministry who have prepared messages for our time. Let the true witness, which is Jesus Christ, remind you of what He has said. Have a wonderful feast everyone! I am praying for your safety and blessing.

In Christ’s name,

Samuel W Kitchen