Crackpot Prophet Is Still Seething After Being Called A False Prophet

It has been almost a year since we ran an article about the Great Bwana Bob's New Year's Prophecies that he predicted for 2024. In that article, we mocked his self-appointed status as a prophet of God and other absurdities he claims.

Never has the Church of God had such a delicate man leading a splinter group as we have today in the improperly named "continuing" Church of God and its Great Bwana Bob, the savior of Africa.

The Great Bwana Bob Mzungu Thiel writes:

The Bible teaches:

4 Do not answer a fool according to his folly,

Lest you also be like him.

5 Answer a fool according to his folly,

Lest he be wise in his own eyes. (Proverbs 26:4-5) 

 

Jesus sometimes answered detractors and sometimes He did not. 

 

Last week, a couple of people posted some statements about me, Bob Thiel, such as that I have had many false prophecies. Yet, they listed none as proof. Instead, they repeated that claim multiple times. 

 

The Bible teaches:

16 The lazy man is wiser in his own eyes

Than seven men who can answer sensibly. (Proverbs 26:15) 

 

Can you accept the sensible truth? 

 

Earlier this year, Gary Leonard, the webmaster at the Banned by HWA, posted the following at his Banned by HWA website: 

 

This brings us today to our very own resident prophet of God dreamed into being as the foundations of the world were being created. Assigned to be revealed on earth in the perilous end times as God’s most important human to ever walk the earth, after Jesus of course, but above all others, this great prophet would arise from the ashes of Armstrongism to bring truth and light to a hurting world. This prophet would be the last chance anyone in humanity would have to be saved before Satan is unleashed to wreak havoc worldwide. Only true followers of this mighty prophet would be able to discern the time they need to flee to Petra, Sella, or some other godforsaken place in the Middle East where all devoted followers would be subjected to 3 1/2 years of hearing him preach.

Never in the history of the Church of God movement has a man as great and important as Bob Thiel the Great Bwana to Africa and 100 Caucasians been more prophetically endowed than we see in him today. A world-renowned scholar on everything imaginable, from the Mayans to end-time prophecy, the Great Bwana is the most quoted man spiritually converted man ever to appear on MSNBC and in the Washington Post. These news organizations stood in awe as the wisdom of the Great Bwana astounded them all as he spoke. Never had they heard such mind-altering information!

As the new year starts all kinds of people are making their yearly predictions on what they expect to happen in 2024. For prophecy addicts this is a very important time to get their messages out even though their track records have all been epic failures the previous year. Yet, they march on to victory! Onward Christian Soldiers!!!

Anyway, back to our favorite resident prophet of Armstrongism, the Great Bwana to Africa and 100 Caucasians has released his list of prophetic things to watch for in 2024. Anyone with half a brain can see these are nothing more than current news stories or just daily events that happen all the time. It is so easy for COG false prophets to search for articles and news stories to prop up their utterances.

The Great Bwana Mzungu writes:

He then goes on to list how big old meanies like those on Banned will persecute him and his church:

Sermon: 24 Items to Prophetically Watch in 2024


Dr. Thiel goes over 24 items to watch in 2024 and points out events that were related to several of them in 2023:

1. Scoffing in the Last Days

2. Immorality Prophecies Being Fulfilled

3. Media, Internet, and Other Censorship

4. Weather Sorrows and Troubles

5. Earthquakes and Volcanoes

6. The White Horse of the Apocalypse

7. Strife and the Red Horse of War

8. Trade Issues

9. The Deal of Daniel 9:27

10. Knowledge Increasing

11. Debt

12. US Dollar Dominance will Decrease

13. CBDC and 666

14. Gold

15. Unrest, Terror, and the Dividing of the USA

16. Europe Will Work to Reorganize

17. Europe Will Have a Great Army and Many Ships

18. Steps Towards the Formation of the King of the South

19. The Time of the Gentiles will Lead to Armageddon

20. Jews Readying to Sacrifice

21. Inventions of Evil Things

22. Totalitarian Steps

23. Preparation for the Short Work

24. Fulfillment of Matthew 24:14 and 28:19-20.

Dr. Thiel goes over prophetic scriptures (in 2 Timothy, Habakkuk, Amos, Daniel, Matthew, Mark, Romans, Revelation, Isaiah, 2 Corinthians, Psalms), including those that must be fulfilled before the start of the Great Tribulation, as well as others that also need to be fulfilled before Jesus returns. When are some prophetic events expected and not expected to be fulfilled? Could we see events in 2024 in the Middle East involving Israel that would lead to the Great Tribulation starting in 3 1/2 years and Jesus returning in 2031? Dr. Thiel goes over many biblical items and ties them in with world events that happened and are in the process of happening.

The following particularly set off his beta-boy alarms:

Here is the list of years where the Great Bwana Bob was wrong:

2012

2013

2014

2015

2016

2017

2018

2019

2020

2021

2022

2023

We can now add 2024 to this list. Imagine twelve years of speaking utter nonsense!

                                                                                   

 

CGI: Is It Tolerance or Cowardice?

 

Is It Tolerance or Cowardice?

Lonnie Hendrix

As someone who formerly associated with the Church of God International and continues to have family and friends within that organization, most of you will understand the focus of my posts on that particular Armstrong Church of God. More particularly, for many years now, I have concentrated on the dissonant messaging coming from that group.

For those of you who may not be familiar with the situation within that organization, there is a substantial group of ministers who have rejected the heresies of British Israelism and Current Events Headline Theology. In short, this group is focused on the good news about salvation through Jesus Christ and eternal life in God’s Kingdom. However, there is another prominent group of ministers who embrace both and are insistent that those things be the focus of that organization’s messaging. Unfortunately, the more enlightened group has decided to be very tolerant of, and accommodating toward, the Armstrongist reactionaries in their midst.

Why tolerate messaging which they clearly think is inappropriate and/or wrong? When presented with that question, those ministers often cite the need to keep the peace, preserve the unity of the organization, and/or tolerate diverse perspectives within their membership. On the surface, it sounds reasonable and noble, but it doesn’t hold up very well under the scrutiny of Scripture.

First, we know that Jesus of Nazareth delivered very clear instructions to his disciples about messaging before he ascended into heaven. In the Gospel of Matthew, we read: “Jesus came and told his disciples, ‘I have been given all authority in heaven and on earth.  Therefore, go and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. Teach these new disciples to obey all the commands I have given you. And be sure of this: I am with you always, even to the end of the age.’” (Matthew 28:18-20, NLT) Did you notice the glaring absence of anything regarding currents events or Anglo-Israelism? In other words, NOTHING about warning Israel!

“We’re preaching the right message!” the enlightened protest. “Nevertheless, the reactionaries have their fans, and they’d be upset if we didn’t post their messages!” they claim. The thinking seems to go something like this: “Sure, they’re wrong, but what’s wrong with keeping them happy?” Of course, they would recoil in horror if that same line of reasoning was employed with regards to homosexuality, Sabbath-keeping, or Festival observance! “I don’t personally believe in British Israelism, but what harm can it do to indulge their delusion?” “It’s an unfortunate part of our culture and history.” In the meantime, the other side is shouting: “At least we have the courage to speak the ‘truth’ and confront Israel’s sins!”

All of this reminds me of a story in the Hebrew Bible and another one in the Greek New Testament. In the time of the judges, we read that Eli was faithful to the Lord and didn’t follow the wicked behaviors of his sons; but he did tolerate their behavior (I Samuel 2:12-16, 22-25). How did God react to Eli’s tolerance of his sons’ behavior? We read that he sent a prophet to confront ELI! He demanded: “why do you scorn my sacrifices and offerings? Why do you give your sons more honor than you give me—for you and they have become fat from the best offerings of my people Israel!” (Verse 29, NLT) As a consequence, Eli was told that God would remove his family from the priesthood, and that his sons would die (I Samuel 2:30-36)!

Likewise, in Paul’s first epistle to the saints at Corinth, we read: “I can hardly believe the report about the sexual immorality going on among you—something that even pagans don’t do. I am told that a man in your church is living in sin with his stepmother. You are so proud of yourselves, but you should be mourning in sorrow and shame. And you should remove this man from your fellowship. Even though I am not with you in person, I am with you in the Spirit. And as though I were there, I have already passed judgment on this man in the name of the Lord Jesus. You must call a meeting of the church. I will be present with you in spirit, and so will the power of our Lord Jesus. Then you must throw this man out and hand him over to Satan so that his sinful nature will be destroyed and he himself will be saved on the day the Lord returns. Your boasting about this is terrible. Don’t you realize that this sin is like a little yeast that spreads through the whole batch of dough? Get rid of the old “yeast” by removing this wicked person from among you. Then you will be like a fresh batch of dough made without yeast, which is what you really are. Christ, our Passover Lamb, has been sacrificed for us. So let us celebrate the festival, not with the old bread of wickedness and evil, but with the new bread of sincerity and truth.” (I Corinthians 5:1-8, NLT)

In both of these instances, the tolerance of someone else’s wrongdoing tainted the “righteous” with sin. Eli and the Christians of Corinth weren’t personally participating in the evil behaviors which were displeasing to God, but they were tolerating or overlooking those behaviors in others!

Finally, Paul told the saints of Galatia: “I am shocked that you are turning away so soon from God, who called you to himself through the loving mercy of Christ. You are following a different way that pretends to be the Good News but is not the Good News at all. You are being fooled by those who deliberately twist the truth concerning Christ. Let God’s curse fall on anyone, including us or even an angel from heaven, who preaches a different kind of Good News than the one we preached to you. I say again what we have said before: If anyone preaches any other Good News than the one you welcomed, let that person be cursed. Obviously, I’m not trying to win the approval of people, but of God. If pleasing people were my goal, I would not be Christ’s servant.” (Galatians 1:6-10, NLT) Clearly, Paul thought that messaging was important. What about you?

Dave Pack: Nothing New...but we have 38 days to go

 

Part 550: Nothing New

After taking a personal two-month hiatus from reporting on The Restored Church of God, I began listening to sermons again, starting with Part 545. It was screaming obvious that nothing the Pastor General said during Parts 534 through 544 was of ANY consequence because he perpetually changed the story and re-reads the same verses while drumming up tired excuses for his long list of blunders.

This exercise proved that you can stop listening to messages for months and jump back in without missing a beat. Returning to Part 545 confirmed my suspicions.

David C. Pack is still painfully boring.

With over 300 articles on exrcg.org, what could I possibly say that has not already been stated?

Oh, look. He thinks that is him in the Bible, not Jesus Christ.
Oh, look. He is teaching something impossible to argue with until he argues it the following week.
Oh, look. Daniel has been unsealed, resealed, and unsealed again.
Oh, look. He discovered something no other human being has ever known or thought to look at.
Oh, look. He is super special, and God is working with him to teach X-Y-Z.

Just because David C. Pack is self-cursed to spend the rest of his miserable days ignorantly repetitive does not mean I must follow suit.

His consistent lies, blasphemies, deceits, foolishness, spiritual corruptions, expressed mental disorders, and delusions have already been thoroughly exposed. Shame on those who ignore David C. Pack’s words.

“The Greatest Untold Story!” now stands at Part 550, proving David C. Pack has nothing new to say.

 

I took a break because Dave is boring. How could I continue to analyze while remaining engaging and funny when the source material is just bland, recycled malarkey? I also lost hope for those still attending The Restored Church of God that they will ever escape. I have already helped those who can be helped.

At this point, those who opt to remain in that spiritually bankrupt and biblically corrupt organization are so mentally broken they are beyond reach. They willfully ignore the Bibles in their laps, close their eyes to the clear warnings that manifest before them, stop their ears from truly hearing, and have chosen to be lambs for the slaughter of vile men. Their blood is upon their own heads.

Here is a summary of Parts 545 through 550 for the skimmers:

Part 545 – Jesus Christ Will Return December 16, 2024.
Part 546 – Jesus Christ Will Maybe Return on January 15, 2025.
Part 547 – Jesus Christ Will Maybe Return on December 31, 2024.
Part 548 – Jesus Christ Will Return on March 29, 2025.
Part 549 – Jesus Christ Will Return on February 13, 2025.
Part 550 – Jesus Christ Will Return on January 29, 2025.

Yawn. More dates for the return of Jesus Christ that took longer to study than for Dave to believe them. We made it all the way to Part 550, and David C. Pack revealed that he still had nothing new to say.

 

The inexplicable madness of The Restored Church of God continues. A prime example of the religious lunacy the members are willing to endure centers around Pastor General David C. Pack declaring that the start of the 1335 in the book of Daniel brings salvation and Jesus Christ on December 16, 2024.

During “The Greatest Untold Story! (Part 545)” on November 16, 2024, he taught “impossible it’s wrong” proofs and promised even more evidence was coming. That further evidence never came.

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One week later, during “The Greatest Untold Story! (Part 546)” on November 23, 2024, Dave expressed doubt about the previous teaching by suggesting it could happen instead on January 15, 2024.

Part 546 – November 23, 2024

@ 51:37 So then, the question becomes: Do the 1335 and 1290 day periods or 1335 and 1260 days best complete the picture God is building of the one week? Put another way, are we waiting for December 16^th or January 15^th? That’s a question.

 

@ 1:15:26 So, God will tell us which day. I’m pretty sure I know ‘cause I haven’t told you more than a fraction of what I put together. Enough said from me on January 15^th for now.

 

Actually, that was enough on January 15 forever because Dave abandoned it immediately, proving he did not know anything.

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One week later, during “The Greatest Untold Story! (Part 547)” on November 30, 2024, Dave threw out all he taught about a January 15 possibility to declare the 1335 still occurred on December 16, but salvation would not come until December 31.

Part 547 – November 23, 2024
@ 1:03:48 But I not only think we tarry, I think I know how long. But I'm not sure. And God may have written it the way He did until someday when His servant, the one who's racing to call it out, would figure it out and be able to tell the church. So, I’m gonna give you my opinion.

Dave figured nothing out. He has been racing for nine years, blathering nonsense and falsehoods.

@ 1:38:21 So, I still fervently hope the 1335 begins the Kingdom that there’s no that there’s no delay. I hope it. But, if you had to ask me what do I believe, I do not believe it’s gonna happen. I wish it would.

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One week later, during “The Greatest Untold Story! (Part 548)” on December 7, 2024, Dave threw out all his recycled malarkey about a New Year's Eve possibility to declare the 1335 did still occur on December 16… but had to give a “heartbreaking” caveat that “haunted him.” Members of The Restored Church of God MAY need to wait until March 29, 2025.

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One week later, during “The Greatest Untold Story! (Part 549)” on December 14, 2024, Dave threw out all he teased about March 29, 2025, to "prove" they are actually waiting for February 13, 2025.

Part 549 – December 14, 2024
@ 07:55 You’re thinking the Kingdom is either Monday or Abib 1 ‘cause I had all these proofs of Abib 1 and one month and so forth. What if I could show with the first document we gave it to you last, the long one under your seat, that it may be neither. What if I could show you that?

All the foolish dopes who actually took their Pastor General at face value were reaffirmed as idiots one week later, further emphasizing the reality they should take notes with a pencil and not a pen.

@ 1:18:43 We’re supposta see the day approaching. I do see it approaching. It just didn't look like Monday, and I couldn't I couldn't reconcile it. And after all this time, God intervened and showed me when the Messiah really was selected.

God did not intervene. God showed David C. Pack nothing. Seven days later, his words exposed him again as a man falsely speaking with God's authority and in His name.

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One week later, during “The Greatest Untold Story! (Part 550)” on December 21, 2024, Dave threw out all he taught about February 13, 2025, to “prove” they are actually waiting for Shevat 1, which is January 29, 2025.

Part 550 – December 21, 2024
@ 59:24 Well, let me just tell ya before we start. It appears we will not make it to February 13^th or even to February. I made two remarkable discoveries recorded by two prophets. And they’re almost they’re almost silly simple.

He framed the doctrinal shift as two remarkable discoveries, not 45 minutes of remarkable errors. He also gaslights and manipulates the brethren by hiding behind his private interpretations of the Bible.

@ 1:00:18 So, I’m not gonna I’m not gonna make any pronouncements here because I don’t have to.

@ 1:21:08 But what I’m trying to do is tell you I’m not giving you a date. I’m [chuckles] the Bible is doing this. In fact, it’s up to you… to see the day approaching.

@ 1:24:40 “Thought it delay, wait for it. It’ll surely come and not tarry.” It cannot go past Shevat 1. It’s impossible.

@ 1:25:23 You’re not left with what Mr. Pack said. I love ya’ll dearly, but shame on you if you do that. What do you think? What do you think?

I think David C. Pack cannot be trusted. He is not a man of his word even while he proclaims to speak on God’s authority. He is a blaspheming, hypocritical liar not led by the Holy Spirit and can never be right about the timing of the return of Jesus Christ.

Selfish, compromised enablers like Bradford Schleifer, Edward Winkfield, Carl Houk, and Ryan Denee have their greedy reasons for supporting the madness at Headquarters while the brethren of The Restored Church of God are stuck in the reality loop they could escape from if they genuinely believed their Bibles.

During my two-month respite, I had two great laments:

1) It is too bad The Restored Church of God never sued me because I would have loved to prove to the State of Ohio that David C. Pack is a false apostle, false prophet, and false teacher desperately in need of professional mental health services.

2) I would have rejoiced being invited across the street to sit at the table with David C. Pack in the Third Floor Executive Imaginarium. Surrounded by tie-wearing corrupted mollusks, I could say to David C. Pack's face the very things I have written in 285 articles. Reading his own foolish, blasphemous words back to him would be a joy. I have envisioned a cowardly Dave standing up with his hands on his hips and his ears blazing red as he verbally blasts me, then abruptly stomps out of the room with Coffee Kid and Pepper Boy scurrying after him.

If only…

It should be clear by now that after 550 Parts, David C. Pack has nothing new to say. No wonder listening to him and taking notes feels like tedious homework. He covers the same verses over and over, often repeating his ridiculous conclusions that he forgot he already discovered.

While trudging through the dismal swamp that is The Restored Church of God, we can look forward to the approaching ten years of continual nothingness.

When the inevitable Part 600 surely comes, rest assured that David C. Pack will still be boring and has nothing new to say.

Marc Cebrian

See: Part 550: Nothing New