Saturday, July 24, 2021

Does A COG Minister Have The Right To Determine Who Will Be A Church Member?

 

A comment was made on a previous thread about how the church has always claimed that no one could join the church unless God had called them. The problem then arose, did a minister ever have the right to determine who was in and who was left out? Potential members had to jump through all kinds of hoops in order to impress ministers that they were "called." From reading Mystery of the Ages, countless booklets, and a grand litany of does and don'ts, potential members needed to jump through a myriad of man-made and totally useless things to do. 

The COG loved to mock the Mason's for all steps they needed to climb in order to reach the top, while the church required the same amount of nonsense for members to become enlightened and part of God's privileged "called-out" ones. Then at that point, the church began to instill the fear into members that they could never leave the church and if they did they would lose their salvation. What utter nonsense! 


LCG Expositor has left a new comment on "Doug Winnail: God Is Watching You!":

LCG's practice of secret meetings stems from the old practice of WCG, where they tried to position themselves as an elite, sacred group. "We are the only ones who know the truth. The only ones God is working with on this entire planet. You can't just make yourself a member; God has to put you in. And we determine whether He is doing that. And once you are in this secret, elite group, it is so special you'll never want to leave, even if there is some abusive leadership. There's nowhere else to go. If you leave us, you're turning your back on God and on His selected leaders, and headed for the lake of fire. 
 
As far as I know, Flurry and LCG still engage in this detestable behavior, although LCG has toned it down. 
 
This practice started with the idea that "church" comes from "ecclesia" and means called-out ones. And we in the ministry get to determine whether you are called out or not. The problem is that while the word ecclesia is derived from "call" and "out-of", that is NOT what it means. Look it up in any Bible dictionary. Ecclesia means "assembly". Often an assembly of Christians, but not always. And nowhere in the Bible do we see any inkling of this arrogant exclusivity.

Friday, July 23, 2021

UPDATED: Gerald Weston, His Wife, and Others at Texas Teen Camp Contracted the Delta Variant of Covid


Greetings from Charlotte, 
 
Everyone should now be home from the Texas Teen Camp that we shut down because of COVID—most likely the Delta variant that is sweeping across the world at this time. Both Carol and I, as well as others who were at the Texas camp, have come down with it. I took Carol to the emergency room per doctor’s orders, but she was not put in a room and was sent home after a long day sitting up. 
 
It is truly remarkable how so many threads are coming together to present a picture leading to the end time and affecting some of our brethren here in the U.S., South Africa, and elsewhere. Leviticus 26 points out that when we come to despise God’s commandments, terror (terrorism) would follow. And following that would be wasting disease. This scourge of COVID has not gone away. And then it says in Leviticus that we will sow our seed in vain, for our enemies shall eat it. Mr. Gene Hilgenberg reported that there are shortages of food supplies, as he was having trouble getting some basic products for the camp. We see the western United States and Canada experiencing extreme drought conditions and high temperatures never before seen. Serious floods have ravaged parts of Europe and China. South Africa, countries in the Middle East, and parts of Asia are facing internal turmoil. See below for news about the situation in Haiti. We are now in a cyberwar with many bad actors disrupting basic services, such as water treatment plants. The big picture shows that this world is entering a time of trouble. Now is no time to fall asleep. While we pray for God’s Kingdom to come, we need to realize that very difficult times are ahead.— Gerald Weston

Church of God News has this up:

Announcement from Gerald Weston, Living Church of God, 22 July 2021: 
 
“By this time all of you are aware that we had to shut down the teen camp in Texas.
Tuesday morning we had a case of Covid from one of the ladies. We quarantined several of the ladies downtown in separate hotel rooms for several days as a precaution. One of those ladies, my wife, came down with Covid. The others seem to have escaped it, for which we are thankful that it was not any worse. The regular camp program began Wednesday morning. We seemed to be containing it, but then on Thursday and Friday we had several other cases … it seemed like there would only be about five total. Never the less, we could see a trajectory that, if we got into the next week, it could escalate significantly. It has, because some have come home from camp with it, so we know that more people were exposed, more people have caught the virus than we knew of for certain on Friday. 
 
Friday I called a meeting for all our department heads and all our our ministers … We realized that either we take control of the situation, or this could get out and outside authorities could take control of it and shut us down, so we decided to shut it down ourselves. 
 
We are not going to hide the fact that there was a Covid outbreak. We could have decided not to test and simply say there was some sickness, but the fact of the matter is it was Covid, we tested for it when somebody got sick.” 
 
This camp in Athens, Texas, has also been utilized by COGWA, which had one report of Covid during camp, and by Church of God Assembly, which has not made any public announcement.


Doug Winnail: God Is Watching You!



It has to be tiring to be a Church of God member anymore, especially being an LCG member. Always having to be on alert and anxious because God is watching their every move. The problem with LCG lies in the fact that if you do not do everything that they expect of you then their god will also not be on your side later on. The entire New Covenant is built around the concept that it was IMPOSSIBLE for people to keep the law and to be perfect. That perfection was granted through the NC to all who follow that Jesus. That enormous logbook of sins that COG leaders what to shame members into having has been filled with disappearing ink. It's no longer there.



Trials and Trust: Tests and trials are a major part of life. Our challenge as Christians is how we respond. Will we trust in God and follow His instructions—or will we give in to our emotions and respond in kind, or compromise and quit? To come through tests and trials, we need to remember that God says, “all things work together for good” (Romans 8:28) and that He “will make the way of escape” if we trust and obey His instructions (1 Corinthians 10:13). Those instructions include “do good” and trust God (Psalm 37:3, 40), forgive (Matthew 6:14–15), don’t return “evil for evil” (Romans 12:17), be patient and not easily provoked (1 Corinthians 13:4– 5), endure and don’t compromise and quit (Joshua 1:6–9; Matthew 24:13), learn from the experience and grow (James 1:2–4; 2 Peter 3:18). We need to remember that God is watching to see if we will trust Him and obey (1 Corinthians 3:13–14). We also need to remember that God is looking to see where He can “show Himself strong on behalf of those whose heart is loyal to Him” (2 Chronicles 16:9). So, when tests and trials come, and they will, trust God, obey Him, and keep your eyes on this big picture.
Have a profitable Sabbath, 
Douglas S. Winnail


If only Doug and LCG truly believed this:




 

UCG Summer Camp: Campers and workers come down with COVID

 




From a UCG member:

This is what Kubik posted on the member site about UCG children being infected with COVID at Pinecrest summer camp. Even after a large number of kids and camp staff were infected at that camps, he saw nothing wrong in driving more kids to another camp. Apparently, he does not believe anyone at the Woodland Camp will catch it or show up having it. The Delta virus is hitting kids this time around.

Bev and I are driving three teenagers to Camp Woodland in Georgia this week. Our teens are so happy to be able to have a camp experience this year after last year’s cancellations. We are aware that a number of staff and campers who returned from Camp Pinecrest tested positive for COVID-19. As a result, anyone who was at Camp Pinecrest, as well as anyone who has come in direct contact with someone who was at Camp Pinecrest, should NOT attend services this coming Sabbath. Please pray for the safety of our children for the remaining camp sessions that are and will be in progress.


Commercial Break and Just for Fun: Did Prophecy Almost Just Come Alive?????????? NO! "But Certainly Shows Other's May Be Out There"




130 Foot Long Barringer Meteorite Just Misses the Visitor's Center!
BTW
In order to trigger catastrophic events that could wipe out humans from Earth, the asteroid should have a diameter of over 10 kilometers. (6 miles ).  Although asteroids that range from 1 to 10 kilometers wide can certainly cause a lot of destruction on Earth, they are not powerful enough to make the entire planet completely uninhabitable. So we know WORMWOOD must be very small 

Dr Thiell Asks:

"Mega-Comet" That Is At Least 62 Mile Wide Has Entered Our Solar System

Could Comet Bernardinelli-Bernstein be Wormwood?"

(NOTE: Evidently not. That large and the Earth becomes confetti.  Now one does have to ask, who first named it and how did he know? )

For a complete list of known exceptional planetesimals and asteroids that the author of Revelation had to choose from see: 

("Wormwood" not currently listed)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_exceptional_asteroids#Landmark_names

 Dr Thiel Continues...


"So after the above, notice that something from outer-space is to hit:

10 Then the third angel sounded: And a great star fell from heaven, burning like a torch, and it fell on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water. 11 The name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters became wormwood, and many men died from the water, because it was made bitter. (Revelation 8:10-11)

Notice that Wormwood does not fall until after the third trumpet associated with the seventh seal of Revelation is blown. Well, this would mean that the fifth and sixth seal would also have already been opened–which are mentioned in Revelation 6:7-17, and the 144,000 numbered as shown in Revelation 7. And I should add that the fifth seal of Revelation cannot possibly be opened for at least 3 1/2 years from now .

But also notice that somehow Wormwood makes water bitter.

This could be because it may be a comet as opposed to an asteroid. Comets tend to come with cyanogen gas–when that mixes with water to form hydrogen cyanide, it has an almond odor and bitter taste."

(NOTE:  A comet may have hit the Earth over the ice sheet in Michigan as little as 12,800 years ago, melting vast amounts of water and sending it into the North Atlantic causing the Younger/Dryas return to a 1200 year cooling event. The Carolina Bays may be evidence of ice splatter from that impact on the ice sheet.  This event may have been the cause for the extinction of the mega fauna roaming America as well as the Clovis culture . 

Lidar images of the eliptical Carolina Bays all pointing SE to NW. There are over 500,000 of these in the Carolinas and not notably visible from the ground.  But , along with the Nebraska Rainwater Basins, all point to a possible Comet impact or air burst over Saginaw Bay, Michigan.  This hypothesis is currently gaining ground.




Bob continues...

"However, that does not mean that Wormwood could not be an asteroid. Some asteroids are bound to have substances that would be bitter in water.

If  Wormwood is a comet like Bernardinelli-Bernstein, it will cause massive destruction as the Bible foretells."

(NOTE: Massive destruction?  Again...  If a 62 mile wide asteroid hits Earth it will turn it into confetti Bob)

'Now, this does not mean that Comet Bernardinelli-Bernstein will or must be the biblical Wormwood."

(Note: Of course not. It's just a segway for Bob to make hyperbole filled Revelation mean what it never was meant to mean for us today)

Bob continues...

"But the fact that there is such a newly discovered large comet that is expected to come close within the next 10 years certainly shows that others may be out there."

(Note: May? Not familiar with the Asteroid Belt, Kuiper or Ort Cloud are you Bob? "
The belt is estimated to contain between 1.1 and 1.9 million asteroids larger than 1 kilometer (0.6 mile) in diameter, and millions of smaller ones.)" in the Asteroid Belt alone.  This does not include the even larger Kuiper Belt and Ort Cloud 




My personal Baby Wormwood before slicing with burn crust from its 25,000  mph ride through the atmosphere.  This is a Campo Del Cielo (Field of Heaven)  meteorite that fell about 5000 years ago in Argentina and was found in the 1570's . It is a piece of the 60 tons found to date strewn over an 18 mile path. 


Mere pounds of my own Baby Wormwood sliced to reveal it's Iron/Nickel self. This came from the core of a star or more likely the core of a small planet that was destroyed by collision in our early solar system formation. 

Dr. Bob continues...

"And biblically, we know that one, called Wormwood, is out there and WILL HIT PLANET EARTH!

And, if we certain events occur that Jesus predicted in the next couple of years, that destruction may well be in or by 2031."



My little piece of 4.5 Billion Year Old  Barringer Heaven



Asteroid Wormwood????

Pfffffft!

NOTE:  Bible Stars were considered not far, not big,  not hot and could fall like hail or snow.  

A few scriptural misunderstandings of the natural world

Amos 8:9 9"In that day," declares the Sovereign LORD, "I will make the sun go down at noon and darken the earth in broad daylight.

NOTE: Hold onto your butts. Caution. Instant Earth acceleration and human extinction level event ahead.

Mark 13:25 


And the stars will be falling from heaven, and the powers in the heavens will be shaken.

Revelation 6:13 


And the stars of the sky fell to the earth as the fig tree sheds its winter fruit when shaken by a gale.

Matthew 24:29 

“Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.

Isaiah 13:10 


For the stars of the heavens and their constellations will not give their light; the sun will be dark at its rising, and the moon will not shed its light.

Revelation 9:1 


And the fifth angel blew his trumpet, and I saw a star fallen from heaven to earth, and he was given the key to the shaft of the bottomless pit.

Revelation 12:4 


His tail swept down a third of the stars of heaven and cast them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was about to give birth, so that when she bore her child he might devour it.

Isaiah 34:4 


All the host of heaven shall rot away, and the skies roll up like a scroll. All their host shall fall, as leaves fall from the vine, like leaves falling from the fig tree.

Joel 2:31 


The sun shall be turned to darkness, and the moon to blood, before the great and awesome day of the Lord comes.

Daniel 8:10 


It grew great, even to the host of heaven. And some of the host and some of the stars it threw down to the ground and trampled on them.