An Ecumenical Church of God Love Fest In The Works?

Armstrongism has always mocked the Christan world when various churches met together to work towards a common goal.  Now it seems United Church of God and Living Church of God are extending an olive branch to each other so they can work together in fulfilling the commission.  Quite absent from this love fest is Church of God Worldwide Association, UCG's recently departed brethren.  Why the hypocrisy?

As the end of this age draws near, it seems more appropriate than ever that God’s people, wherever they may reside, support one another in fulfilling the commission Jesus Christ gave us. With this in the forefront of our minds, representatives of the of the United Church of God, an International Association, met with the leadership of the Living Church of God at Living’s Headquarters in Charlotte, North Carolina, on January 9-10 for a two-day visit. 

The purpose of the visit was to rekindle friendships and discuss ways to cooperate in serving God’s people. The meetings were cordial and positive and included an open and frank discussion about those things that we have in common, and some of our differences, including church government and the way each Church is organized. We also discussed our different strategies for preaching the gospel in this modern age. There was no discussion of any type of merger.

Discussions about areas of cooperation within the greater Church of God community included humanitarian concerns, disaster relief and other unforeseen events where we can help our members meet critical needs by supporting and loving one another as Jesus commanded. Cooperation could also include helping members who have difficulty getting time off for the Sabbath and Holy Days, and other legal matters that affect both organizations.  It was agreed that open communication between Church of God organizations will become more important as world events move towards their ultimate prophetic fulfillment. 

Those in attendance at the meetings in Charlotte on behalf of the Living Church of God were Dr. Roderick C. Meredith, Mr. Richard Ames and Dr. Douglas Winnail. Those who traveled from Cincinnati for the United Church of God were Mr. Dennis Luker, Mr. Victor Kubik and Mr. Peter Eddington.  Mr. Luker commented that the Cincinnati team felt most welcome and were treated very warmly. In addition to the meetings, the UCG visitors were given a full tour of the Living Church of God headquarters and adjacent media center.

Another tour?  These tours are starting to be dangerous!  Will the representatives immediately jump ship now to LCG because they were in awe and amazement at the magnificent work being accomplished in Charlotte?  Will we have another Schurter 20 page resignation letter from these guys?

Schurter Says He Offers Hope to COG Slackers

Dale Schurter has written about his amazing and mind boggling defection over to the Restored Church of God.  He claims hundreds have written to him and been restored back to wholeness by his amazing letter.  You would think that this event is the most miraculous thing to happen in the Church of God in decades.

Greetings again, everyone. As I continue to hear from people around the world, many are emailing and calling from several of the break-away groups of the WCG, in addition to folks in general. Comments indicate my letter has already helped many to see that they have slacked off in regular and heartfelt daily prayer and Bible study, among other things, and some have again committed to “get back on track.” As of this evening, my website has reached 960 cities in 40 countries. How encouraging and sobering at the same time.

He then goes on that not all comments have been warm and fuzzy.  Some disagree and he is not happy about the detractors ridiculing him. But takes it on the chin as a martyr for the truth no matter how painful..

And yes, some comments are negative, a few of them even hostile in nature. How we all long for the day “the accuser of the brethren” is no longer able to accuse the faithful daily before the throne of God. However, the vast majority of the comments are positive, including comments of appreciation to receive a “wake-up call,” and gladness to be back in touch again. Please continue to pray for all the brethren and those being called of God….yes, including those who do not yet understand in full, and strike out at others. This can be painful, but should never dissuade us from our commitment to the Father and Jesus Christ to stay the course to which we are called. Remember, “All who live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution” (II Tim. 3:12).

He should realize that his "detractors" see through the malarkey of his miraculous visit to Packman's HQ and how that cult is damaging hundreds of lives.  People are still shocked that he wants to be part of that kind of evil.

Idiotic Ron Weinland Video : Alien Demons

Armstrongism's latest fool to soon go down in flaming glory on May 27th is Ronnie Weinland.  Here is one of his more idiotic videos.

Brain Test

Let's free our minds from all things Armstrongite for a couple of minutes.  

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God Discussion Puts Ron Weinland On Hot Seat Tonight

Sign on tonight to listen to a lively discussion about one of  Armstrongim's biggest false prophets. There will be a discussion tonight on "God Discussion" that will feature a segment about Ron Weinland.

This is from the email I received this morning:

"...on our "God Discussion" show tonight during the 2nd hour of the program to talk about Ron Weinland.  The freethought types of blogs have gone wild promoting the story over the past few days, so it should be a well-received interview. 

Details on tonight's guests are here:

http://www.goddiscussion.com/88618/this-week-on-the-goddiscussion-show-a-night-of-humanism-and-reason-with-roy-speckhardt-al-stefanelli-and-others/

The show itself can be accessed live here:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/god-discussion/2012/01/13/roy-speckhardt-american-humanist-association

There is a web-based chat room that appears automatically, also, and it tends to be a hoot.

When it is live, the page notes that it is ON AIR and it will play from your computer speakers (you might have to press a button -- BlogTalk keeps updating but generally, the show automatically plays).  About 10-60 minutes after the podcast concludes, it is available for download as an MP3 from BlogTalk and shortly thereafter, is available on iTunes.  Slowly but surely, I am converting the shows into YouTube videos.  It's a long process and I cannot give a specific date on when tonight's show will be in video format."

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This Week on the God Discussion Show: A night of humanism and reason with Roy Speckhardt, Al Stefanelli and others, including the scoop on the latest 'end times prophet'

January 11, 2012 By admin 4 Comments

A slate of outstanding guests will be joining us for the first God Discussion Show of the new year.
First, we will be talking with Roy Speckhardt, Executive Director of the American Humanists Association.  Roy actively promotes the humanist perspective on progressive political issues. He’s appeared on CNN Headline News, Fox News, numerous national radio shows, and has spoken to dozens of local humanist groups across the country. He also serves as a board member of the Humanist Institute and the United Coalition of Reason and as an advisory board member of the Secular Student Alliance. He holds an M.B.A. from George Mason University and a B.A. in sociology from Mary Washington College. He lives in Washington DC.
Al Stefanelli is well-known for his work with United Atheist Front, Inc., which he founded in 2005 and ran until August 2011, at which point he shifted gears to serve as the Georgia State Director of American Atheists.  Al is the author of A Voice of Reason in an Unreasonable World and is a widely read journalist with the National Atheism Examiner, Freethought Blogs and Associated Content.  He has been a writer and journalist since 1993, starting out as a weekly columnist for a McClathy Newspaper, where he wrote a column called Think About It for ten years.  His work won a North Carolina Journalism award.  Al also produced and hosted the weekly syndicated broadcast Millennium for three years.  He is also a former Baptist Minister, Preacher and Evangelist.  Links to his various projects and online columns can be found at his official website, AlStefanelli.com.

QUICK NOTES:
Show Time:  Thursday night, January 12, 2012, 6  Pacific / 7 Mountain / 8 Central / 9 Eastern
Call-In Number:  914-338-0452
To hear the show live and participate in the web-based chat room:  http://www.blogtalkradio.com/god-discussion/2012/01/13/roy-speckhardt-american-humanist-association
More info about time zones, the chat room, archive downloads and hosts:  The God Discussion Show

Extras … Thomas Paine is perhaps the most influential of America's founding fathers, yet he is ignored or forgotten. The World Union of Deists has launched a campaign to convince the History Channel to produce and air a documentary about Paine. Jayson of the World Union of Deiests tells us more (you can sign the petition here). And *tentatively* we'll learn more about the Ronald Weinland, the doomsday preacher who says that Jesus Christ is returning on May 27, 2012.
As an added treat, we're happy to announce that we will have a chance to talk with Mike, who blogs at RonaldWeinland.info.  Mike will give us the scoop about God's latest "prophet" who has proclaimed that Jesus Christ is returning to earth on May 27, 2012 — and that people who "mock" Ronald Weinland's message will die of cancer.  Weinland's so-called prophecies have been around for awhile, and despite the failed May 21, 2011, doomsday prophecy of Harold Camping, has not backed down from his prediction.

Meredith's Wife Has Stage 4 Cancer

Living Church of God Northeast has announced that Rod Meredith's wife has stage 4 cancer.

Your prayers are requested for Mrs. Sheryl Meredith, wife of Mr. Meredith, who has been diagnosed with stage-4 cancer throughout her liver and other parts of the stomach region. 

It has always been a fact that wives of so many ministers and church leaders have been stricken by cancer.  During the 1980's there was a huge number of ministers wives that were stricken.

I am sure this has to be hard on Rod Meredith, since his first wife Margie also died from cancer. Plus, with Rod's stroke and his declining health this does not bode well.

Restored Church of God Defecting Minister Letter

 

 

Please use this form when specifically transferring your loyalty and mind over to the Restored Church of God and the Resident Apostle.  If good enough, if you are well known enough and can prove that you can send this letter to thousands of current COG members now attending the untrue churches, you just might have found yourself a job.

 

 

"Dearly Beloved____________________________________________________   "    

                             Please use the appropriate words that will endear you to the

                                                                        receiver

 

"Greetings to all of our dear friends.  ________________________________________________________________"

Give a long history of where you have been and how you got here. Please take your time and explain your entire connection to WCG including ALL your amazing contact with the Armstrongs.  (Do not mention the Tkaches).  Be careful NOT to say Mr. Armstrong trained you or any such thing. This simply will not wash.

 

"Over the last few years______________________________________________

__________________________________________________________________"

Please take lots of time to explain your perception of what has happened compared to the truth. Be dramatic.  Tell the brethren Satan's role in it all but be sure to point out the human instruments used to destroy God's Church.  Hold yourself above the fray of course and share the agony you felt watching it all but never really speaking up of course.

 

"Finally our eyes were opened.______________________________________________________________

 

_____________________________________________________________________"

Explain clearly how you opened your eyes. DO NOT take anytime to speculate on how long it took or why now.  You can lose points here if your move is connected to lower numbers and discord in your present Church.  Also, do not reveal they have been paying your retirement for a few years now.  Use appropriate "eyes opened" scriptures.  Be careful to make it sound like your eyes were recently opened. Saying your eyes have been opened for years is a mistake.  Also credit Satan with your not seeing things for such a long time.  If the brethren think you were too comfy staying put and saying nothing...well, just don't fail to credit Satanic eye scales.

 

"Almost as if Christ himself was leading us, we decided to stop by and take a tour of the Restored Church of God's World Headquarters.___________________________

______________________________________________________________________

Ok, here ya go.  Be very enthusiastic about this visit.  Please use the words "amazing, overarching, world's biggest, incredible, true, on track, " etc in your praise for the organization.  Mention the entire staff and team and again use words that make it seem they all get along, love how things are done and spend hours a day trying to be more and more transparent to all concerned.  DO NOT ask how many members there actually are.  DO NOT inquire about specific income figures. When you are told the stats  given be sure to act like that actually was the answer to your question.  DO NOT ask what personal family members, mostly untrained if ordained, make as a salary.

 

"We were honored to spend many hours personally with Mr. and Mrs. David C Pack._______________________________________________________________

____________________________________________________________________

____________________________________________________________________

Now....be very careful here.  Be sure to pour praise on the Resident Apostle.  DO NOT refer to him by a first or shortened name.  This is BIG NO NO!   Honor to whom honor and all that.  How well you learn to do this will directly impact your future income.  More honor=More Income.

 

"We have come to realize_____________________________________________

__________________________________________________________________

__________________________________________________________________

Here is your chance to shine and justify yourself. Please show how what you are doing is exactly what GOD, CHRIST, THE EARLY APOSTLES (especially Paul) HWA, Roderick C Meredith and a few leading....oops, no wait!!!!   HWA, David C Pack and a few unnamed yet to come leading Evangelists, would do.  Be sure your actions are easily proof texted in both the Old and New Testaments.  A lead towards the NT is helpful but not necessary.  Call Jesus  "Christ" as it sounds more crisp and authoritative.  BE SURE TO REMIND THE BRETHREN YOU HAVE FOUND THE LONG LOST ONE TRUE CHURCH.  Nothing short of this will get you hired.

 

"I must caution you about criticism to come both to myself and Mr. David C Pack

___________________________________________________________________

___________________________________________________________________

__________________________________________________________________"

 

Here is your chance to shine again.  Be a martyr glorious. But be careful!  You must be willing to blow off a bit less criticism than The Resident Apostle.  You must not come across as suffering more than he. It is your job to absorb the blows.  You are the armour. You are the buffer between Satan and God's anointed.  Do not take too much credit to yourself to be willing to be thrown under any bus. It is Satan who is criticising you.  NEVER take any input from your former friends and such too seriously.  They are blind and have eyes that do not see as you do and ears that do not hear the piper as you have.

 

"Brethren just look at these statistics from Mr. David C Pack himself.

__________________________________________________________

___________________________________________________________

___________________________________________________________"

Please just read the statistics given to you.  Do not ask about how much the income is or what the actual membership numbers are.  There are reasons these things are not given unto you. Just go with the numbers.  Don't kid about how years ago you had a garage full of Plain Truth Newstand copies that were counted as given out and weren't.  BE SURE you credit David C Pack with originating the Plain Truth Newstand Program, even if ...well, you know.  Do not kid about what "World Leaders" may have said after Mr. Pack left the room.  DO NOT compare what they may have said with what was said of Ron Weinland when he spoke to the brilliant a year or so ago and made a fool out of himself. At this point, real income is none of your business and that number resides only with the Resident Apostle.  DO NOT ask if Mr. David C Pack thinks you might be one of the Two Witnesses he will train.  Give it some time.

 

"Brethren, time is short.  If you have any questions, I would welcome you in my home, office or even if you wanted, you could come to church after I check with Mr. Pack. _________________________________________________________________

____________________________________________________________________

__________________________________________________________________"

Let it go here.  Be suave and caring. Let them know you love them with all your heart and would move heaven and earth to get them attend, er....ask you anything they want and come visit you.

DO NOT tease them about giving a discount on tithing for the first few months if they will change over right now.  There is never a discount and soon you also will learn to "send it in," because you are now one of God's employees. 

 

"Please check my new website and ask any questions you might have.  I will post the ones I like and skip the ones that question my decision or want to fill me in on their own experience working for RCG.  I did say my eyes were open but did not say my ears were near as open so don't push me.

 

In Christ's Service________________________________________________

_________________________________________________________________"

Be sure to indicate you know you are the service of Christ himself and a reference to the Great God and Father can't hurt either.  Thank them for their concern and love and be sure to repeat that you love them more than they love you and that you are anxious to hear from them.

 

Depending on who you are, how famous, popular, well know and so on, you will receive a reply either really really fast,  really fast,  fast,  slower than fast, not so fast, slowly or not at all.  DO NOT CALL to inquire about your status.  That will be decided by Christ and the Resident Apostle