Meredith Letter on LCG Member Page

Partial screen capture of LCG member page

In addition to being read in all churches, the letter from Rod Meredith concerning Bob Thiel is now post online for all the world to see.

Apostle Malm: " Bob (Thiel) is seen as a kind of Absalom."

In outward appearance he is an impressive man. 

“From the sole of his foot to the crown of his head there was no blemish in him” (2 Sam 14:25). 

At his annual haircut, his sheared locks were sold for two hundred shekels (2 Sam 14:26)! 

 Looks, however, can be deceiving. Embittered by the mistreatment of his sister Tamar, he murdered his brother Ammon. He tries to take the reins of justice and authority out of rightful hands and into his own. 

Both the cause and the means are unjust. Despite the leniency David extended to Absalom after his treachery, Absalom sets out to undermine the authority of his father and king. 

He despises the fifth commandment. 

He does so by sowing discord among the Israelites and casting doubt on his father’s decision.

 The rebellious son sets himself up as an alternative ruler and judge. 

“So Absalom stole the hearts of the men of Israel” (2 Sam 15:6). 

Perhaps David was thinking of his rebellious son and his mob when he wrote in Psalm 35:12:  

"They rewarded me evil for good to the spoiling of my soul."  

Absalom dies in disgrace, his swelled head with its flowing locks

caught in the branches of a terebinth tree (2 Sam 18:9, 14-15).

Character Studies-Absalom 

Even the apostle is hitting out at Bob Thiel.  Bob and James have a deep seated disgust with each other.  Both call each other false teachers and other kindly Christian things.

I think there are several threads converging on this.

1) Bob has made very many enemies in the general COG clergy including LCG; and COGWA may want him defanged. Larry Salyer may want to take note and keep his head down for a quid pro quo request from LCG.

2) The LCG leaders may think that Bob has too much influence among the brethren [not the elders who dislike him] and are moving to cut him down a few notches.

3) Enough of the LCG elders are finally so fed up with Bob’s presenting his personal speculations contrary to LCG teachings, as fact, and are pushing for action. Bob is seen as a kind of Absalom.

4) In his personal circle Rod has made it clear that he is not comfortable with Bob and his blog.

All these things are adding up, and Bob’s monumental conceit is preventing him from taking it and saying that most certainly people should prove all things. Bob just cannot take being questioned.

Please forgive me for laying this out openly but I have had long dealings with Bob in personal correspondance and in his wilfull bearing of false witness against me. I am well aware of the nature of this man and it is NOT godly by any stretch.

If he gets the boot from LCG no one else will likely take him [maybe Dave Pack].
It is my prayer and mny hope that Bob will repent and turn to God, and away from his fascination with catholicism and paganism. James

Bob Thiel: Pretending To Be Catholic In Order To Sell Books?

Bob Thiel, Living Church of God's illustrious book publishing mogul, has been pumping out books lately for the masses.  From Mayan fantasy, to visions of Fatima and now to Barack Obama, the speculation and theorizing abound.

It's interesting that Thiel is using Herbert Armstrong's tactics on taking his message to the world.  HWA was embarrassed to mention what church he represented so he formed the Ambassador International Cultural Foundation to open doors for him. Then he would talk about "a strong hand from someplace..."  What the hell is that? Is the flying spaghetti monster going to come floating down from outer-space?

Thiel is using his early baptism and confirmation in the Catholic church to legitimize his book in the eyes of the Catholic faithful.  No where in any of his Amazon information does he state that he believes the Catholic Church to be the Great Whore of Babylon, that the Pope will be the Antichrist that will kill "true" Christians, that Catholics are all heretics because they don't keep one of the 10 Commandments or that he is no longer a Catholic but a member of a diminished American sect that is fading into oblivion.

Once again you will get to see that Bob thinks he is more enlightened and informed that the majority of humanity. I guess we need to start genuflecting to his awesomeness since he is the "world's foremost authority of prophecy writings."

On his Fatima Shock book site on Amazon he states the following in his author description:

Baptized and confirmed into the Catholic faith as a youth, Michigan native Bob Thiel is one of the world's foremost authorities on prophecy writings, a published Ph.D. and a highly regarded researcher with multiple awards to his credit. He holds a Bachelor's degree from the University of LaVerne, a Master's degree from the Unversity of Southern California, and a Ph.D. from the Union Institute and University. Throughout his academic and professional career he has studied philosophy, religion, science, and prophecy; in recent years, has had scores of articles published on these subjects in magazines, newspapers, trade publications and scientific journals. Married to his wife Joyce since 1981, the two have made multiple trips to ancient sites around the world, including Fatima, Portugal. Dr. Thiel's articles and commentaries are wildly popular online with visitors to www.cogwriter.com, his philosophy and religion website, where he is known as “COGwriter.” “When I heard in 2010 that Pope Benedict XVI changed his views about the future of the Fatima messages,” explains Dr. Thiel, “I was immediately interested in why and what would be included. When someone I knew gave me a Fatima publication shortly thereafter, I was inspired to write a book about what Fatima really would mean for the 21st century.” As an award-winning researcher, Dr. Thiel took his work seriously, traveling to Fátima, Portugal as well as other places he identifies in his book. He and his wife have visited scores of sites of religious and prophetic interest around the world. After endless months of compiling and analyzing the Fatima messages and various other prophecies, Dr. Thiel now presents them in a clear, straightforward language, explaining what was said, what was seen, what will likely happen, and what has already occurred.

UPDATED: Case Thrown Out: Rick Van Pelt: Lawsuit Claims $250,000 Bribe and Trip to India Solicited

Photo:  PCC Courier

The Los Angeles Times Pasadena Sun is reporting that Rick Van Pelt, Pasadena City College Vice President and Al Hutchings, Facilities Chief,  sought a $250,000 bribe from a Los Angeles based lighting company and a trip to India in exchange for a lighting contract for the College.

Van Pelt and Hutchings have countersued claiming while they do go to India, they never solicited a bribe from the company.

Van Pelt was the former Facilities Administrator for Ambassador College and a Worldwide Church of God member.

The Pasadena Sun reports:

Lawsuit: Former Pasadena City College officials sought $250,000 bribe

Lighting company alleges executives facing criminal probe sought kickback. Van Pelt, Hutchings deny claim.

By Joe Piasecki, joe.piasecki@latimes.com

September 7, 2012| 5:50 p.m.

Two former Pasadena City College administrators facing a criminal bribery probe offered a lucrative campus contract to a lighting company in exchange for a lavish visit to India and $250,000 in payoffs, a lawsuit claims.

A countersuit filed Tuesday by former PCC Vice President Richard van Pelt and then-campus facilities chief Al Hutchings acknowledges the pair traveled to India, but denies they sought a bribe.

Los Angeles-based LED Global LLC, a manufacturer of energy-efficient light bulbs, alleges in a suit filed July 26 in Los Angeles Superior Court that van Pelt and Hutchings solicited kickbacks in 2011 after promising the firm a $5-million contract to upgrade campus lighting.

The company refused to make the illegal payments, was denied the contract and contacted law enforcement authorities, according to a related claim LED Global filed July 30 against PCC with the city of Pasadena.

On July 7, investigators with the L.A. County district attorney's office seized computers and documents from the homes and campus offices of van Pelt and Hutchings. The men have not been charged, and the investigation remains open, according to Deputy Dist. Atty. David Demerjian, who heads the office's public integrity section.

PCC fired van Pelt after the raid and removed Hutchings from his job pending an administrative hearing.

LED Global's lawsuit claims that the company's owners met with van Pelt and Hutchings in January 2011 to discuss a contract, and that in February 2011 the firm examined the college's lighting needs.

The suit claims that the company received a $5-million purchase order for LED lighting from van Pelt and Hutchings on March 17, 2011, after agreeing to pay for the men to travel to Mumbai, India, from May 1 to May 6 for a factory tour.

During that trip, van Pelt and Hutchings twice asked for a 5% kickback on the proposed PCC contract and on future contracts they would broker for LED Global at other community colleges, according to the suit.

The lawsuit also claims van Pelt and Hutchings made “unusual and expensive” requests during the trip, asking for company-paid stays at luxury hotels in Mumbai and New Delhi, an excursion to the Taj Mahal, access to prostitutes, limousine rides, lavish meals and $2,000 worth of Cuban cigars.

LED Global owners Robert Das and Salia Smith claim the company paid for most of those demands but refused to hire prostitutes for the men. They allege that Hutchings — a former Los Angeles Police Department officer — made veiled threats after they refused to make the payoffs.

Van Pelt and Hutchings did not inform the college about the trip to India, said PCC spokesman Juan Gutierrez.

The rest of the article is here.

UPDATE:  

‘Wild Claims’ Against Ex-PCC Officers Turn Out to Be Unbelievable

A CorrespondentOctober 11, 2013News

Re “The Latest PCC Protest Hits Home”

Dateline Pasadena – A lawsuit filed July 26, by Robert Das and Saila Satter Leiter Smith of LED Global Corp, LLC, against Richard van Pelt, former Pasadena City College Vice President of Administrative Services, and Alfred Hutchings, former Facilities Services Supervisor, was dismissed with prejudice yesterday by Los Angeles County Superior Court Judge Suzanne G. Bruguera. 

Another lawsuit filed by the same persons against Pasadena City College was dismissed earlier this year.

Previously, all parties were ordered by Superior Court Judge Louis M. Meisinger to appear for a mandatory settlement conference on Aug. 28. But Mr. Das and Ms. Smith apparently left the country. They  were sanctioned $3,000 by the court for their failure to appear. Judge Meisinger scheduled another mandatory settlement conference for Sept. 13. Once again ordered all parties to appear. The pair failed to appear again, and were sanctioned an additional $3,000.

On Sept. 18, Mr. Das and Ms. Smith’s attorneys, the Layfield Law Firm of El Segundo, asked Judge Bruguera to be relieved of their responsibility to represent the two petitioners and LED Global Corp. LLC. The judge granted the request.
John Schmoker, attorney for Mr. van Pelt and Mr. Hutchings, said that dismissal of the case “was a long time coming because Das and Smith did not have a single piece of evidence that could support their wild claims.

 “The harm caused to van Pelt and Hutchings never can be repaired.

“A malicious prosecution lawsuit against Das and Smith is being prepared and will be filed if they return to California.”

In court documents filed by Pasadena City College, the school claimed it relied primarily on the accusations by Mr. Das and Ms. Smith to terminate the employment of Mr. van Pelt and Mr. Hutchings. The District Attorney also relied on the allegations made by Mr. Das and Ms. Smith to begin an investigation.

Mr. Das and Ms. Smith made a number of allegations, including bribery, extortion, kickbacks and racketeering. In an apparent attempt to garner additional interest in their claims, they alleged that LED Global paid for all of Mr. van Pelt’s and Mr. Hutchings’s expenses to India, that they provided a stretch limousine while in India, that they turned down a request by Mr. van Pelt and Mr. Hutchings to provide prostitutes while in India, and that while an officer with the LAPD, Mr. Hutchings murdered people. Not a single document could be produced by Das or Smith to even remotely substantiate any of their claim

Bob Thiel SURPRISED That Rod Meredith Has Concerns About His Books

Today Bob Thiel wrote on his blog under the News of the  Living Church of God that he is surprised that Rod Meredith has concerns about his writings and books.  Rod Meredith will be calling Bob this week to discuss this situation.

09/08/12 p.m. Attached to the Weekly Update from the Living Church of God, Charlotte (LCG), that is being read today in congregations throughout the world, was a letter from Dr. Meredith related to me, the Barack Obama, Prophecy, and the Destruction of the United States book, etc. FWIW, I was unaware of any LCG concerns about this book prior to seeing Dr. Roderick C. Meredith's letter, so this has come as somewhat a surprise. 

In the past, the Charlotte-based evangelists such as Dr. Meredith, Richard Ames, and the late Dibar Apartian have always been supportive and encouraging regarding my writings and books. And while a couple of suggestions have been received in the past related to the books, no serious doctrinal concerns have ever been raised.

I am unaware if Dr. Meredith has yet had the time to read the book in its entirety and he is supposed to call me next week to discuss his concerns. A careful read of his letter shows that nowhere does he state that the book actually contains any error, but that it is not an official LCG document and that people need to check out what I write--"Prove all things" as the Apostle Paul wrote (1 Thessalonians 5:21, KJV)--and, of course, I completely concur with that.

From the beginning, it has been my intent to update the Barack Obama, Prophecy, and the Destruction of the United States book in November 2012 or January 2013 (I updated my previous book Fatima Shock! within a couple of months of its release), so I look forward to discussing details with Dr. Meredith.

Anyway, although I have served LCG in many capacities over the past 14 plus years, I have never been an employee, accepted any salary, etc. thus I have never been an official employee. And, of course, since LCG did not produce the Barack Obama, Prophecy, and the Destruction of the United States book, it should be clear to all that it is not an official LCG publication. In case there have been concerns about my non-official capacity or writings, the following information is at the www.cogwriter.com home page:

Important Notice
This is the personal home page of Bob Thiel, the Church of God writer AKA COGwriter. The opinions expressed are my own, based upon my understanding of history, various facts, and the Bible. This is not an official Living Church of God, United Church of God, Church of God (Seventh day), etc. site. This site is maintained by a genuine Church of God believer who is solely responsible for its content. The official website of the Living Church of God is http://www.lcg.org. The opinions and positions expressed within this page should not be taken to be the official position of the Global Church of God (which, for practical purposes, no longer exists), the Living Church of God, United Church of God, COGWA, etc.

The purpose of this web page is to promote biblical doctrines, help unify the remnant of the Philadelphia era of God's Church (so that those who are truly part of it may more effectively get the Gospel truth out as a witness per Matthew 24:14; Revelation 3:8), support the Ezekiel warning (Ezekiel 2 & 3), support Matthew 28:19-20 (etc.), and to alert true Philadelphian Christians so they can be kept "from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth" (Revelation 3:10). It is also hoped that those who are not Philadelphian will be able to benefit from its content, including those who had never previously received the witness of Christ's gospel of the kingdom.

My intent is to continue to try to support Matthew 24:14, 28:19-20, and other aspects of the work. And I look forward to discussing those matters, including the final phase of the work, with Dr. Meredith.

If the Apostle Only Eats Edam Cheese and a Pear on High Days Then You Should Too!

Lest any of you sinning  members out there forget how to keep the Sabbath and High Days at the Feast this year, the apostle has laid down the law.  The apostle only eats Edam cheese, a pear and a small salad.  If it is appropriate for him then it should be for you too!  I can just picture Malm's acolytes running out and buying the same products.  COG members did the same thing when HWA declared he liked certain foods and alcohol.  Since the apostle deserved the best and emulated how the kingdom should be then church members were expected to do the same thing.

The very idea that a church member needs to ask what they are supposed to do instead of using their own brain tells a lot about his followers.  God forbid if a COG member actually made a logical decision on their own and stuck to it regardless of what the apostle or minister thought.

I have been asked how to observe Sabbath and High Days in regards to not working, buying or selling on those days.

First it is important to arrive early enough to take care of all necessaries before the first High Day or Sabbath
It is best especially if one has children to seek a unit with a kitchenette. In any case in today’s world almost all grocers have very convenient ready to eat choices from veggies and dip plates, to ready made salads, fruit, sandwiches, cookies and sweets, cheeses, bread etc etc.  If there is no refrigeration a cooler or simply putting them out in the car over the coolness of the night will keep carefully selected food over night.

I have found that I tend to eat too much of the wrong things at the Feast anyway; and a break from that and a simple mid day meal of a salad, a pear, and some Edam cheese suits me fine as a break from the heavy food.

Remember to tell the staff that no room service will be needed.

It is extremely easy to use the preparation day to acquire enough to last through Sabbath while eating an early dinner on the preparation day and a late dinner after sunset ends the Sabbath, Holy Day;  while observing Sabbath without buying food or cooking.

The only real difference between being “on he road” and at home, is that at home we can cook extra food on the preparation day, while on the road we have to be ready food in advance of the Sabbath or High Day.

Rod Meredith Responds to LCG Members Concerns About Bob Thiel

Yesterday a reader posted a letter reportedly from Rod Meredith discussing the concerns that some LCG members are having with Bob Thiel speaking as if he was the voice of the Living Church of God.  When I read it, I thought this really does sound like something Meredith would write.  Then the original poster responded that it was authentic and a couple of other people also agreed that they think it is authentic.  Is it real or a hoax?  If it really is a hoax then someone really knows how to impersonate Rod Meredith to a "t."

I know several LCG members who are quite concerned about prophet Bob's latest book critical of President Obama.  Add to that the use of sources that have traditionally been looked upon by the Church of God as pagan or demonic and you have even more concern by Church of God members

Thiel is now bragging on his blog that he has been cited as a credible source on end times prophecy on MSNBC and the Washington Post.  Prophet Bob is still the face of the Living Church of God when he does this.

http://www.cogwriter.com/

Below is the letter reportedly from Rod Meredith:

From the Presiding Evangelist

Dear Fellow Servants of Christ,

An important matter has just come that I want to alert all of you faithful servants of Christ about. It involves Dr. Robert Thiel. While Dr. Thiel has declared himself to be a loyal member of the Living Church of God and has helped us in many ways with interesting ideas, suggestions and personal help, we do feel it is important for all of you to know that he is not our official “spokesman” in any way. He has written a number of things with which we do not agree.

Dr. Thiel has just published a highly speculative book about President Obama much of which we do not agree with. So it is important that all of you realize that—although I love Dr. Thiel personally—it is vital that each of you brethren check out carefully and prove to yourself whether any of his writings are valid if you read them. Although he has not stated it as such, some of our brethren may have assumed that Dr. Robert Thiel is an “official” spokesman for the Church on many matters. We want you to fully understand that this is not so. He is not in our employ, nor does he officially represent us in any way. So although we continue to wish him well, we do want everyone to know that when it comes to some of his unusual writings or concepts, they must stand on their own and not be represented as something from the Living Church of God. If you have questions about this matter, please counsel with your own local faithful Living Church of God minister.

In these difficult times, let us all be careful to “prove all things” and be sure where we stand before God. Also, we certainly want to love and forgive one another and keep working together in every way we can to accomplish the great mission Christ has set before us. Thank you for your understanding, your prayers and your loyalty.

With Christian love,
Roderick C. Meredith

          September 6, 2012 8:13 PM 



I do have to hand it to Rod Meredith in distancing himself from prophet Bob's books.  They are all highly speculative and about as useful in understanding prophecy  as Ron Weinland's 2008 God's Final Witness and The Prophesied End-Time are. We have all seen in the last year how well those books have worked out for Ron Weinland and his church. Prophet Bob's books have the potential to actually cause Living Church of God undo "persecution."  The track record of the Churches of God in bringing trials and tribulation upon themselves are legendary.