Thursday, May 23, 2013

Bob Thiel: Because of God's Mercy He Kills and Maims With Tornadoes



Bob Thiel, the non-ordained self-appointed false prophet, has went to great lengths today to point out that his vengeful god truly does delight in killing, maiming and destroy with tornadoes.

Bob started out with:

While the terms ‘tornado’ and ‘cyclone’ are not in the NKJV, KJV, or the DRB (Douay Rheims Bible), some translations of the Bible (like THE MESSAGE) do use them, and those that do not tend to use the term ‘whirlwind,’ which is basically what a tornado/cyclone is.
The Bible shows that whirlwinds are one of the forms of weather that God controls:
3 The Lord is slow to anger and great in power,
And will not at all acquit the wicked.
The Lord has His way
In the whirlwind and in the storm,
And the clouds are the dust of His feet. (Nahum 1:3)
God teaches that because of disobedience He will scatter people and use a whirlwind:
8 Then the word of the Lord came to Zechariah, saying, 9 “Thus says the Lord of hosts:
‘Execute true justice,
Show mercy and compassion
Everyone to his brother.
10 Do not oppress the widow or the fatherless,
The alien or the poor.
Let none of you plan evil in his heart
Against his brother.’
11 But they refused to heed, shrugged their shoulders, and stopped their ears so that they could not hear. 12 Yes, they made their hearts like flint, refusing to hear the law and the words which the Lord of hosts had sent by His Spirit through the former prophets. Thus great wrath came from the Lord of hosts. 13 Therefore it happened, that just as He proclaimed and they would not hear, so they called out and I would not listen,” says the Lord of hosts. 14 “But I scattered them with a whirlwind among all the nations which they had not known. Thus the land became desolate after them, so that no one passed through or returned; for they made the pleasant land desolate.” (Zechariah 7:8-14)
21 A cyclone sweeps them up — gone!
Not a trace of them left, not even a footprint.
22 Catastrophes relentlessly pursue them;
they run this way and that, but there’s no place to hide

He then has to drag in British Israelism into his brewing pot:

The following is telling of a time when at least some of the descendents of Ephraim (currently dominating lands such as the UK, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand) will face a major destruction from a tornado:
5 Even though Ephraim ran wild,
the black sheep of the family.
“God’s tornado is on its way,
roaring out of the desert.
It will devastate the country,
leaving a trail of ruin and wreckage.
The cities will be gutted,
dear possessions gone for good.
16 Now Samaria has to face the charges
because she has rebelled against her God:
Her people will be killed, babies smashed on the rocks,
pregnant women ripped open.
(Hosea 13:15-16, THE MESSAGE)
 Bob particularly likes vs. 16 in hte above quote from The Message.  He takes delight in  babies smashed against the rocks and pregnant women ripped open.  He can't talk about Jesus but loves to quote his vengeful god by somehow tying the USA into the above Scripture.  Oh yeah, I forgot,  its British Israelism so it is 100% fact.

In the above, notice that Samaria is also affected. This seems to be a reference to the ‘melting pot’ of the USA (Samaria was a melting pot mixture of Babylonians and Israelites).

Then, he ties his invading German armies into taking citizens of he USA to Germany as slaves:

7 “They sow the wind,
And reap the whirlwind.
The stalk has no bud;
It shall never produce meal.
If it should produce,
Aliens would swallow it up.
8 Israel is swallowed up;
Now they are among the Gentiles
Like a vessel in which is no pleasure.
9 For they have gone up to Assyria,
Like a wild donkey alone by itself;
Ephraim has hired lovers. (Hosea 8:6-9)
The passage in Hosea 8 is clearly referring to the descendents of Israel, including Ephraim and Samaria. Notice that they are among the Gentiles and some go to Assyria (end time Germany). There are enough references to whirlwinds and the end time descendents of Israel that it seems like one or more major tornadoes are prophesied to affect them.
After being mocked for the last couple of days for defending his vengeful god Bob claims that the people killed by the tornadoes were not necessarily the worst sinners out there.  Though they might have had a little good, they were essentially all evil people.

Thus, though some of these passages may also have a figurative sense, major tornadoes are forecasted in biblical prophecy.

Now, does this mean that those most affected by tornadoes are necessarily worse sinners than those less affected?

The biblical answer is no.

Notice the words of Jesus:
45…He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. (Matthew 5:45)
4 Or those eighteen on whom the tower in Siloam fell and killed them, do you think that they were worse sinners than all other men who dwelt in Jerusalem? 5 I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish. (Luke 13:4-5)
He ends with his always encouraging tone:

God uses weather and other events to try to get people’s attention.
God does not want people to suffer, but to turn to Him
He uses weather for correction and for His mercy (Job 37:13).
Will you heed the weather warnings?

Wednesday, May 22, 2013

Do You Realize That Armstrong Demanded 76% Of Your Income?



Over on the All About Armstrongism Blog he has up all of the expected tithes and offerings that the Worldwide Church of God expected/demanded from members.  Do you realize that if you had participated 100% in Armstrong's expectation that you would have given the Church 76% of your income?

Flurry, Meredith and the others carry on this same obscene tradition today.  The worst offender is Dave Pack who expects members to turn over all retirement programs, mortgage homes and businesses and give every last penny you have to him.

Here is what was expected of true followers:

  • First tithe – which was 10% of gross income.
  • Second tithe – which was another 10% of gross income.
  • Third tithe – which was another 10% of gross income.
  • Regular Offerings  3% of gross income
    • Holy Day offerings.  4% of gross income.
    • Emergency Fund – No percentage given.
    • Fourth Year Fruit From Trees  (I remember my mother doing this)
    • First-fruits – estimate the value and give the money to headquarters
    • Firstborn male of cattle  (I know farmers who did this)
    • Firstborn child – buy back with an offering to headquarters.
    • Building fund expectations were 4% of gross income
    • Tithe of Tithe expectations were 10% of gross income
    • Loans to the work were also expected of members (I remember when the receivership happened and Tkach and Webber stood up in the Hall of Ad and told members to mortgage their homes and businesses to help stop Satan)
    • Gifts to the Church
    • Special Emergency gifts when the Work was in trouble were also expected of members
    • Also mentioned were library funds, recreational funds, spokesman club dues, and social funds.

    Check out his entire article at the link above for much more detail on what we were conned out off.  These percentages and giving opportunities were from John Pruner's sermon.

    All of this to fund a work that was embarrassed to talk about Jesus or God.  What impact did HWA have traveling the world talking about a "strong hand from someplace?" 



    Why Are There No Happy People In The COG That Do Good????



    A reader on Gavin's blog made the following comment:

    "I have come to realise that nothing is better for people than to be happy and to do good while they live. (Eccl. 3:12)"

    Yet I challenge anyone to name a happy person or one that does good.
    Apparently there are NO happy people anywhere in the world  and certainly not one single human on the entire planet that does good.  Everyone is just miserable human filth that is destined to the worm pile to be eaten by maggots.  Such a lovely outlook on life from a typical right wing Armstrongite.

    E. W. King and His 100% Accurate Prophecies



    I am so humbled to just be able to read the 100% accurate prophecies of E. W. King.  Can there be any greater human on earth today?  Dave Pack thinks he is the greatest, but apparently that is not true.  Bob Thiel thinks he is  a prophet after getting a double portion of gas.  Yet these two little men pale in comparison with the mighty prophecies of King.

    Here are a few of his latest 100% accurate utterings.  Read them and be amazed!


    • E.W.King predicted more Gov-Computer Control!In 2011 and into 2012 I predicted that the US government would continue to try and get more control over the internet. I stated in 2012 my predictions for 2013. I stated in my prophecy forecast:“We will see strong government control over the internet. Government will try and control freedom of speech.”We now have learned that since I stated this last year we find that the Semphonic Monitoring system of computer data is being accomplished by the US Government through the new Utah Data Center which is a new huge government facility.

    •  E.W.King predicted new illness! MONTGOMERY, Ala.A mysterious respiratory illness of unknown origin has killed two people in southeast Alabama and put five more in the hospital.A May 21 statement from the Alabama Department of Public Health says that seven people have been admitted to a hospital with a fever, cough and shortness of breath in recent weeks.

    • E.W.King’s warning about FOX News legal battles continues!In 2012 and in 2012 I informed COGSR members that in the year 2013 FOX News would face legal battles. All of you have been reading our articles know about this and the original posted articles are still up. Remember my rant? I stated in more than one article:“FOX news will face legal battles.”And in today’s news we learn…behold, yet another:  Newly uncovered court documents show the Justice Department seized phone records associated with several Fox News lines as part of a leak investigation — a revelation that comes as the White House Correspondents’ Association spoke out against the administration’s monitoring of reporters.

    • Mr. E.W.King’s Tornado predictions just won’t stop!Isn’t it amazing? All of the things that COGSR ministries has warned about are coming to pass yet the world continues to close it’s eyes to the TRUTH. How sad. I have several articles about tornados…I have continued to warn about these terrible events.Many of you have sent me emails regarding my tornado predictions. Now…look at what has happened since all of these warnings:  A massive and powerful tornado hit Moore, Okla., yesterday, causing widespread destruction, including at least 51 deaths. 

    • COGSR Against Homosexuals Showering with Straights! “If you are going to let gays shower and change with straights…then let opposite sexes shower and dress together in public facilities with tax payer money!”  [This message was given by God’s servant: Mr. E.W.King, founder of COGSR on January 17th, 2012 in Utah. Will the major News Networks address this issue? Probably not! FOX & CNN have ignored Mr. King’s accurate prophecies. They have ignored God’s true Last Day Church!COGSR]

    • China Earthquake:  Here’s what we know about Saturday’s massive earthquake that has, for the second time in five years, thrown China’s Sichuan Province into despair: Over 200 people are either dead or missing. Over 11,000 are injured. 17,000 more are homeless, a number that will surely go up.

    • Heatwaves! Mr. E.W.King posted in a letter another recent dream, strange indeed! Here is how it goes: “I was watching ships, I think they were military, but not sure. A beam of light came from a land mass and was directed, like a laser, to one of the ships…from there it was reflected to other ships. The dream then went to me being with some other people in a house where we were told that a heat wave was coming our way..this heat wave had already killed many people. They said it should hit around 2012 [perhaps military time?]..then it came, the heat wave. we jumped in a small pool of water to try and cool off…them I woke up. Very strange indeed!”

    • Mr. E.W.King gave warnings about the current terrorist attacks!

    •  Mr. E.W.King warned about UFO freaks in 2013! Look what there doing now!   Thank you to everyone who participated in the 2013 International UFO Congress. The event was a success thanks to our wonderful speakers, volunteers, vendors, and of course our attendees. We’re back in the office and are already beginning the preperation for next year’s event. The 2014 International UFO Congress will take place February 19-23, 2014 so mark your calendars!

    • “We will see violence of the strange kind enter our homes…through the News!”And what do we see on our televisions? “This is so, so sad… not to mention SCARY!
    Are you not astounded and amazed?  Can there be any greater prophet in the Church of God?  We are not worthy to be in his presence!

    Why Do So Many Sabbatarians Hate Scientific Inquiry?



    Here is a little blurb from the Seventh Day Adventists.  It seems that just like Armstrongism, they cannot wrap its head around alternative views and scientific data when it come to bible stories.

    It is either you believe and teach a literal 6,000 year old earth or you are out the door.  Obviously critical thinking is not a well used tool at the "university."




    La Sierra, a Seventh-day Adventist university, has teachers who do not believe in a young earth. This upsets the General Conference so much that the teachers who believe in an old earth are to be fired.

    James Malm Wants You Know How To Qualify For A Job In His Kingdom




    PERSONAL:  Before I continue with today’s post on Proverbs I wanted to tell a personal story which illustrates some of the focus of Proverbs, much other scripture and the problem in the COG Groups today.

    Many years ago my wife and I applied for a job managing a government building.  We were well qualified and immediately had a good rapport with the interviewer, being able to answer all their questions correctly and amicably.  We did not get the job!

    We had wanted this particular job and were disappointed, however by analyzing the interview we learned an important lesson.  This may help those out job hunting and as we are hopefully all seeking a “job” in the Kingdom of God, it should help us in understanding the kind of kings and priests that Jesus Christ wants working for him. 

    At one point in the interview we were asked what we would do in a particular situation.  Eager to show off my knowledge and impress them, I said that we would do this and this and this. My answer was CORRECT but it was THE WRONG ANSWER!

    The answer being sought was:  “I would follow your policy on the matter”!

    These folks would be paying someone to manage a huge building and they had a right to have their decades  long established policies learned and followed!

    THINK!  How much more do the Father and Christ have the right to KNOW that their policies of countless millennia, are being followed by candidates for a “job” assisting them and affecting the lives of millions?

    If you want to rule, you must learn to live an example of true godliness; and to teach and rule in a godly manner; or we will not get the “job”.

    Flurry Cult: God Has Protected His Earthly Sanctuary From The Tornado


    The above screen capture is of a comment a reader here posted on PCG's site the other day.  She was responding to a comment by a PCG member claiming that their god had protected his earthly sanctuary in Edmond Oklahoma on the PCG compound.

    As if God is actually coming down to Edmond for a cup of tea every once in a while.  The "earthly sanctuary" belief is just as stupid as claiming the Ambassador Auditorium was "Gods House."






    I had the nerve to write to PCG.  They had a whole big article on their site.  They mention their booklets, how they missed out on the tornado and how bad they feel.  See attached photo of my comment.  Its under moderation.  I’m Michelle Ruscansky, a critical thinker.  Other comments published right away.
    Publish if you like.  We all need to start holding their feet to the fire, and have them put their money where their mouth is.