Sunday, August 25, 2013

Dennis Muses...Sucketh It Up

The Branson 2013 Challenge



I am absolutely the last person any COG would ever pick to write about the Unity of the Faith  and with good reason.  Balancing, if that is a goal in the realities presented by both science done well and religion, the conflict between faith and skepticism is a challenge for me and many to say the least.   "Just have faith" means nothing to me as it seems like what you say when you can't explain something well or simply have no answer for something that obviously is unbelievable.  Believing the unbelievable has become a personal problem. On top of that, the politics of religion and in my own experience, within the Church of God has put me off beyond measure.  I'm probably still stuck in an idealism of childhood.  Someone once thought I did not get much beyond 11 in my reactions and idealistic expectations of oneself and others.  Perhaps they were right.



Christ Church Episcopal-Greenville, SC

Founded 1826

 I'm writing this because I am going to have my first formal church experience in a couple hours. It will be Episcopal and the oldest surviving church building in Greenville.  The reasons for going are varied at this time.  This is only the second time in 15 years I have been inside a church building.  I do like the fact that Christ Church's stain glass, done in 1914 of the Lord's Supper, clearly shows Da Vinci's belief that Mary and Jesus were closer than the Gospel stories would like you to believe.  She plainly sits on his right hand in the picture at Christ Church.  Even the person I was with when I commented on the whole picture suddenly said, "Hey, who is that woman in the picture?"  Lol.  She has gone there since childhood and never noticed until I mentioned how nice the stain glass was. I did not say anything about Mary. 


Da Vinci also made it so that if you placed Mary on Jesus left instead of right, it forms a very endearing couple with robes complimenting each other.  Also , the four groups of three may have had the deeper message of the Four Seasons around the Son of God (Sun) who was Most High in June, but I spare you! 

 I returned to my old Presbyterian Church for mom's memorial service.  It was the same inside as when I played a shepherd in the Christmas play for Sunday School.  The pews were the ones we all sat on decades ago as children when our feet would not touch the floor and our parents were young with all of life ahead.  The woman who brought me down the isle for my baptism to present to my parents, as an infant, and the baptismal still sitting where it did then, was sitting on the front row.  The Sanctuary had not changed one bit but we all had of course. That's the nature of a stable church.  It gives good memories

 So why write to challenge the myriad of Feast of Tabernacles churches and groups that will descend upon Branson, Mo. this year, to reach out and mend broken fences and share common hopes?   Because I know they won't and can't I suppose. Maybe to prove they tend to more competing corporations and marketers than really stable beliefs and congregations. .

 Religion is an organizational thing.   Spirituality is a whole other thing. They are COG "leaders" and leaders don't wish to give up their autonomy for the general good it seems. It threatens loss of members to others.  No Dave Pack is going to shake hands with a Vic Kubik of course, but maybe Vic Kubik could shake hands with one or two or three of the more balanced and open minded leaders of other groups. Or at least try   I suspect those under a Rod Meredith type might really wish to shake the hand and share a common service at Branson with someone they know but they don't have the power to make such a decision. Of course there are the zealots in each who would howl to the heavens.  Rod would require them to come to him and the idea of "come let us reason together" is totally lost on that generation of COG leaders.  Anyone outside of them is of the "marked" and "disfellowshipped' or as Vic Kubik taught me when I was 22, "dis-membered" crowd.  We don't talk to them. 

In reality, of course, none are bad folk or fallen away from their hopes and understanding of what the Bible says to them.  They just ran afoul of closed minded, limited view and authoritarian Bible readers of this or that persuasion.   Gone are the days of feeling bad about being put out of the one true church.  Now you can just slide over to another true church and feel right at home.  It was my first thought when the Tkaches reinvented the wheel of my Presbyterian past.  "Well if this is so, then screw driving thousands of miles a year to church.  Down the street works just fine and no you can't have anymore of my resources."  Seemed a no brainer to me.

 Anyway...  May I suggest if not arranging to share a service together, how about a hymn sing before or after one?   I know...that could be emotional and someone would lose members to the other who would gain them depending on the mood. I suspect there will be a lot of festival sermon and church hoping in Branson anyway.  A day here, a service there and meals out with the "enemy" are probably going to be common place. The kids with friends in "the splinters" in Branson will find each other and talk about how stupid church is and this idea of same hopes and views, practices and even hymns but turf wars galore. It will cause them to shun the whole thing first chance they get. Just because they aren't talking to mom and dad about it does not mean they do not observe such stupidities among themselves and their peers.  I know I would if I was a COG kid in Branson this year.  I also know I would not care who my kids talked with in Branson were that the case.  I found it more healthy to send them the message in life that they got to make their own beliefs and truths decisions just as I did and do .  Of course you have to live with them and sometimes recover from them.

 So...We all know now that after 3 requests for Dave Pack to come out from behind the walls of the Restored Castle of God and down from the mountain, to talk theology and the Bible , he won't, but how about a challenge for even just two different but the same Churches of God in Branson to share a common service at least once?   We need two real Church of God leaders to suck it up and show some class.  We need someone , somewhere to prove it's not just about getting and keeping members, collecting money and increasing  the numbers. 


First Presbyterian Church :: Noisy Offering


Religion is what others stuff into your head.  Where to be, when to show up, what to believe and how much give.  Spirituality is an inside job and while each may have a different perspective on the whole thing, spiritual people don't sweat the details and they don't major in the minors as we see so pathetically done by, say, a James Malm type of Church of God cast off. 



Besides...If any Branson Feast Churches of God, even just two, answer the challenge, it will drive the Apostle Joshua C. Packstrong nuts.

 Well...off to Church.  If they sing the "wrong" hymn and memories of a kinder and more gentle time in religion come flowing back...I'm toast for a time before the skepticism returns.

Seven Different COG's Will Be Having A Feast In Branson And None Will Speak To Each Other



Remember the years of one COG site in a city with sometimes up to 15,000 people?  Well those days are gone, along with a "one" COG.  Now there are hundreds and hundreds of COG's all pretending they are the best ever.  Imagine what it is going to be like in Branson, Missouri this year with SEVEN different COG's all holding God's most important Feast days in their own  insular little groups.  All of them preaching about a Kingdom of God where the world will be unified.  Are they too dumb to see what is wrong with this picture?

Talk about awkward moments in restaurants and casino's!  Everyone is going to be watching which group eats some shrimp or some bacon. What's a poor parent to do when their kid wants to play with another kid from another COG.  Ghastly days!  What a dilemma!

According to feastgoer.org, at least 7 COG’s are going to be united in one city but divided and not meeting together in Branson  from the largest UCG to some smaller groups – it looks like if Florida’s got the biggest city to site capita, Branson’s got the biggest cog-in-city capita. Well, it’s for good reason – if you like shows and entertainment. They’ve got the silver dollar park, and what seems to be countless shows with stars, singers, and entertainment. I checked what’s going on in September in Branson – and no wonder! You can be on The Price Is Right Live, literally countless shows and singer tribute shows, hey, might as well just show you the whole huge list to choose from!
From:  Preparing For The Feast, COG-Wide, and Luau’s seem to be OK with COG People Despite their ORIGINS??

Saturday, August 24, 2013

Bob Thiel, Ever the Comedian, the Hobbit Talks About Women




Bob Thiel, is  he a Hobbit or what?  

Does he realize how stupid he still looks sitting in front of that crooked bookcase?  Bookcases that have doors on them usually only cover a couple of shelves on the bottom of the bookcase.  Look across the room at your book case and see if your doors go up over halfway as Bob's do in his videos.  Those doors extend up past his chair.  Everything about the image he presents is off kilter, just like his ministry.

He starts off trying to be cute and humorous about women in the New Testament.  You can hear his wife or some other female chortle along with him.  Then he starts flapping his arms, waving his wrists and laughing that it so is distracting to what he is trying to get across that you will quickly tune out after 3 minutes.

Bob Thiel's Vengeful god Is Back Punishing California With Wildfires



Bob Thiel's god is apparently on a rampage in California again.  Is his god so pissed off that he let a Kenyan still tithe money that it is punishing the State of California because Thiel lives here?  That logic is about as logical as Thiel's claim that his god is trying to wake the world up.

Wildfires are part of the Sierra in the summer. But no one has seen a fire this out of control since 1987 when all of California seemed to be burning.  http://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-yosemite-fire-20130824,0,1432454.story?page=1
The Bible shows that God uses weather to get people’s attention. Sometimes to punish, sometimes to lead to repentance, and other times to consider that God, not humankind, is in control.
Wildfires have always been a part of the world humanity lives it.  It is a natural way of cleaning overgrowth to allow new growth to start anew.  Only because we have a hyperventilating press and a population that has moved into theses areas, are they in the news so much.   Then, coupling that with the whacked out view of a nutty Armstrongite spouting "biblical" passages and you have the ultimate godly super-storm of wrath and punishment.
Although California historically has wildfires, the Bible also mentions fire as a tool that God sometimes uses. Here are some examples:
11 The Lord said:
“Surely it will be well with your remnant;
Surely I will cause the enemy to intercede with you
In the time of adversity and in the time of affliction.
12 Can anyone break iron,
The northern iron and the bronze?
13 Your wealth and your treasures
I will give as plunder without price,
Because of all your sins,
Throughout your territories.
14 And I will make you cross over with your enemies
Into a land which you do not know;
For a fire is kindled in My anger,
Which shall burn upon you.” (Jeremiah 15:11-14)
12 O house of David! Thus says the Lord:
“Execute judgment in the morning;
And deliver him who is plundered
Out of the hand of the oppressor,
Lest My fury go forth like fire
And burn so that no one can quench it,
Because of the evil of your doings.
13 “Behold, I am against you, O inhabitant of the valley,
And rock of the plain,” says the Lord,
“Who say, ‘Who shall come down against us?
Or who shall enter our dwellings?’
14 But I will punish you according to the fruit of your doings,” says the Lord;
“I will kindle a fire in its forest,
And it shall devour all things around it.”‘ (Jeremiah 21:12-14)
11 The Lord has fulfilled His fury,
He has poured out His fierce anger.
He kindled a fire in Zion,
And it has devoured its foundations. (Lamentations 4:11)
15 There the fire will devour you,
The sword will cut you off;
It will eat you up like a locust. (Nahum 3:15)
But have comfort Oh distressed ones....the non-ordained and s self-appointed Chief Overseer of the worlds most import Church of God doing an end-time work, Dr. Bob is praying for you!

My family used to live near the area of the current wildfire and I know of people who are being affected by it.
Then we see the REAL point of Thiels article, those gays are the cause of it.
My prayers are with those affected by the fires.  I also pray that those in California will repent as worse problems are ahead if it continues to go in a moral direction away from the Bible.  California set a bad standard last Fall when it became the first USA state to outlaw attempts to convert homosexuals from that ‘lifestyle’ (see California’s Brown Signs Anti-Homosexual Conversion Bill)–the State of New Jersey recently followed California’s bad example (see Republican Christie to sign bill outlawing homosexual conversion therapy).  Additionally, the State of California has other issues where it is also setting very bad examples (such as the production of pornographic entertainment).
The same old drumbeat of Armstrongism marches on and on, thankfully the  drum skins are getting old and will soon break leaving these buffoons with nothing to scare people with.

E. W. King: The Most Important Thing The Church Does Is Stay At Home And Focus Upon One's Self



Armstrongism has always thought of itself as special and set apart.  God was only working with and was only going to save COG members in that great day of trial and tribulation.  The world was not to be bothered with other than to warn them to shape up or else.  Nothing else was done for the world because God was going to fix it all later.

E. W King the new and current leader of the REAL Worldwide Church of God proves that point with this idiocy:

The Worldwide Church of God is the center of Christian Life. We are the “body of Christ”. As true believers and those experiencing true conversion we continue to grow together and learn from each other. We are most importantly the Church at home, with fellow family members. The home is the sacred meeting place for Christian Life.
The observant Christian begins the day and ends it with prayer. All of our meals are accompanied by prayer and concluded with it. We eat the diet that our Heavenly Father advises. Our every week ends with Holy Sabbath rest. We as families come together in our homes on Friday evening and light Sabbath candles and say prayers to invite the Sabbath experience into our lives. This is consistent from childhood to adulthood. We also observe all of God’s holy festivals. As family and friends come together God is praised and fellowship begins. Our children are taught the moral commandments of God and experience the importance of family life. We learn that ALL LIFE is precious. 
The entire life cycle of the child revolves around God’s church. From baptism to weekly Sabbath experience, from holy festival to holy festival, from eating to sleeping, from praying and talking with mom and dad, husband and wife - we experience God’s love like no other people on this earth. Home worship is extremely important. Preparing our children to one day marry as God has ordained is extremely important. We pray and worship without ever having to leave our homes to go to some fancy building.

That's rgith, clos eyourselves up on your homes, homeschool your kids, only read boks written by Herbert Armstorng, associate only wiht your closest church members and above all NEVER, NEVER help the world!

Many denominations today have lowered the standard of God. They do this to get members. The true Church of God is not worried about membership numbers. The true Church of God will always be a remnant. [Revelation 12:17] We should all pray for courage to talk with others about the true gospel of the Kingdom. Only God’s coming kingdom will solve all of our problems. In the mean time we can rest in His one true church. This Devil-ruled world does not want the Good News of the Kingdom or the laws of our Great God. Truly obeying all of God’s laws will indeed bring health and healing on all levels.

Friday, August 23, 2013

Malm's New Fundraising Cash Cow To Milk The Brethren With



James Malm, he who is NOT starting a church, has conned some of his acolytes into setting up a "charity" that will keep him in his apartment so he does not have to go out and get a job now.  Only last year was he complaining about being low on funds and needing support.  Today, it is official.  SEND IT IN!  NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

With his new money  miking machine, his new COG empire can quickly arise.

Feast sites are planned, weekly broadcasts are being made, tithes and offerings are coming in, life couldn't get any better!  Pretty soon he will be jetting around the world with his message to world leaders about a "strong hand from the Old Testament."  Money will be available for Steuben gifts, suites at Raffles will be booked. Oh the life of an Armstrongite cult leader....

Life has been rough for Malm lately.  He is in desperate need for cash.  He has not been able to receive his income stream and he needs it now.  With his feast in Oregon coming up, his travel and lodging there, he must book the finest establishments as possible.  No more Motel 6 for him.  Super 8, here he comes!

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Please remember that I had asked people to wait for this for their own tax benefit, and I have received almost no funds for some time.  With Feast and other expenses, funds are urgently needed.
It has been my experience that US Priority Mail is no faster than regular mail, so don’t waste money on that.

Bob Thiel Has A Kenyan Deacon Who Is Conning Him and Various Churches of God for Money



Poor Bob Thiel, being doubly blessed apparently has not given him any double insight into the types of "leaders" he has preaching for his personality cult.  In order to increase his numbers and look like he is doing a worldwide work, Thiel embraced a lot of Africans who claimed they wanted to join his group.  It turns out that they were only after money. Instead of a Nigerian money scam going on, it is a Kenyan money scam. 

Life can't get any more delicious....Thiels tithe money has been conned from him.

James Malm has an article on his blog today about Kenyans who are conning various COG's into giving them money.  They are contacting various COG's telling them that they are a longtime COG members and need financial help.   Kenya, A Warning to The Church of God

On August 19th, in a phone conversation with James Russell, of the Church of God in Truth, “Prove All Things”;  it was discovered that their Nyandiwa Scout Camp [Feast Site]arrangements had fallen through, but they weren’t aware of it in time to withdraw the announcement from being published in their magazine.  

In another unrelated search, it was discovered that a George Otieno was listed as a deacon in the “Continuing Church of God”, led by Bob Thiel.  Otieno is named as a ‘deacon’ in his organization, and is a representative for Thiel (and apparently Russell’s the Church of God in Truth, “Prove All Things”.) simultaneously. 
 
Otieno had contacted Thiel for the first time in about February of 2012 (claiming to have been a long-time member of the WCG / UCG / LCG over time).   Bob Thiel, until August 20th, was not aware of these other affiliations.  
He today (8/21) indicated that he’d found that George Otieno was nephew of Lukas Ogada.  We have long known that Polycal Ormondi Ogalo is also nephew of brother Lukas.  Just this morning (8/21/13) Simon Muthama, rep. for the Living Church of God in Kenya, wrote indicating that Polycap Ogalo and George Otieno are brothers.  

Thiel indicates that his sponsored Feast site was not Nyandiwa.  But, that George Otieno was the contact person for his site at Homa Bay!  The Continuing CoG website lists the location as the Prudence Hotel in Homa Bay.

We are at present drawn to conclude that these men were colluding to draw support from our two organizations, the CCoG-GJ and CoGit (and perhaps others).  When CCoG-GJ balked at sending $17,800+, the deal fell apart.