Dave Pack Says Doctrine Can Only Come Through Him

William Beher is on the defense today against UCG and COGWA.  He is in a snit because they have doctrinal committees that sit down and discuss doctrine.  William wants you to know that doctrine can ONLY come down through the proper chain of command (from Jesus through Dave) and NOT through doctrinal committees.

Is Dave afraid that some of his heretical doctrines are starting to cause issues and he wants to stamp out any rebellion?  Have some of the new converts had their eyes opened and realized that they made a mistake in joining his cult because of his heretical doctrines? By speaking out such as he has, he has once again throttled members  from questioning his decisions and man made doctrines.

Who is responsible for teaching the Church doctrine and for ensuring it speaks right doctrine—TRUTH? Groups and organizations such as United Church of God and Church of God, a Worldwide Association, would have you believe “doctrinal committees” and/or a “council of elders” or individual ministers of varying ranks leading their own groups may bring truth to the Church, including overturning what an apostle taught. Also, whose duty is it—apostles, committees or lower ranking ministers—to ensure all of God’s people “speak the same thing”? Mr. Armstrong brought plain teaching on this subject, and it is what scores of thousands in the Worldwide Church of God all once professed to believe.

No “doctrinal committee” or “other group of ministers or lay members” (or any single minister below apostle) may bring truth into the Church. Why then do organizations permit groups of men to decide what their organizations believe and teach—and throw out doctrines taught by Christ’s 20^th-century apostle? Who gave these men such authority? 

 William ends with:

Mr. Armstrong speaks with no ambiguity! Don’t believe false ministers. Do your own thinking. Examine the rotten fruits of organizations that teach contrary to the Bible pattern, and compare this to the fruits of God’s Church, which faithfully holds to ALL of the truth—what Christ’s 20^th-century apostle taught.

We have examined the rotten fruit of the "restored" Church of God and is rotten to the core.  Smelly and vile.  It makes great pig slop.

Wit and Wisdom From The Messianic Armstrongite Kabbalists

Oh the joys of the Internet!  No longer can Armstrongites sit back and claim they are the most unified, biblical oriented true church on the face of he earth.  There are so many factions and beliefs in Armstrongism now that there will never be unification.

While some branches of Armstrongism have unrepentant sinners going to the Lake of Fire, the Messianic Armstrongite Kabbalists have EVERYONE being send to  hell for a twelve month purification process. But if you were a good little boy or girl on earth then your stay in hell might be a little shorter.  The better person you are the less time you will have the flames of hell licking at your feet. Then, if you are still and rebellious sinner, you will get sent to the Lake of Fire.

The Messianic Kabbalist Pastor General writes

The Zohar reveals that the maximum duration of stay in Hell of an unclean soul is 12 months. For the souls that are less impure than others, they may stay in Hell just for hours, days, weeks, and a few months, depending on how impure they are, and depending on how easy the impurities are removed from them. 

People may think that it is just a short period of time, but the pain that will be experienced here in Hell, for every second or minute is indescribable! It is hope that by this length of time, or less, the person would have totally and humbly accepted God's purification process. If this is the case, God will now allow that purified soul to enter His Kingdom and be given eternal life.

In spite of all of this you should be encouraged!  Your evil angel that's been assigned to you will perish too and will no longer be able to influence anyone.

FOR EVERY SINNER, THERE IS A CORRESPONDING EVIL ANGEL. BOTH WILL BE CONSUMED BY FIRE!

The Zohar revealed that one who commits one sin acquires one prosecutor. A fire descends from up high and burns the body parts, the fat and the portions of the bullocks, the sheep, the he-goats and the she-goats, which is a secret of Yud Hei Vav Hei that descends like a lion of fire to burn them. Their members are burned and the Demons or the Evil Angels in charge of the sinning members are also burned.

I guess God was too stupid to give each person a good angel.  So much for the loving God......

Next our glorious leader in Armstrongism discusses our reentry into the Garden of Eden.  Alas, the chances of you making are slim because of climate change.  Say what?

Man's re-entry to the Garden of Eden was enabled by the death sacrifice of Christ, and Christ's resurrection from the dead enables man to eat from the Tree of Life. For an in-depth explanation about  how can one be qualified to re-enter Paradise, please go to: DO YOU KNOW THE BIBLE PARDES? It is the 4 Levels of Bible Knowledge and Understanding! Reaching the 4th Level, which is the Messianic Kabbalah Wisdom, Qualifies You to Enter Paradise (the Garden of Eden)!

But before man can enter back to the Garden, he must be purified to that status of Adam before the sin. Climate Change is one of the major purification processes in this human life that every human being must be exposed to and tried (Rev 3:10). MESSIANIC KABBALAH WISDOM is the other option, which is relatively easy and less painful.

If you are not being purified in hell I guess the sun's going to fry your sorry butt.

Then he moves on to Elijah.  From the qualification he lists below it immediately dismisses most Armstrongite ministers and evangelists from ever being Elijah.  Most of them are not sexually pure and are filled with greed and lust.  It's tough being an Elijah in Armstrongism!  Even Elijah Reimann feels this.

WHO IS ELIJAH, REALLY? ELIJAH IS THE REINCARNATION OF PHINEHAS!

According to the Zohar, Elijah is the reincarnation of Phinehas, also known as Pinchas. During the time of Moses, while Israel succumbed to the sexual and idolatrous temptation of the Midianites, it was Phinehas' zealousness that protected and preserved the Covenant. And because of this zealousness, GOD gave him the Covenant of Peace, with the agreement of Moses (Numbers 25:12).

UCG West Virginia: Sexual Abuse and Embezzlement

Here is another story about sexual abuse  in the Church of God and how the ministry of UCG tried to cover it up.  Check out Silenced for this story about a UCG elder that was sexually abusing women in his congregation.  The members knew about, complained and UCG honcho's covered it up (some of these guys now are parked on their self-righteous asses in COGWA.)

I had heard about this congregation several years ago when it happened.

 An excerpt: 

Several years ago there was an entire UCG congregation in West Virginia which seceded from the mothership after a local elder molested a young lady in the congregation. The local elder had a history of doing this sort of thing. He had repeatedly been admonished by church leaders to stop, but as is so often the case, he didn’t because he knew they would never discipline him. Keep in mind, this was back around 2004 – 2005 when all the leaders of COGWA were still running United. Doug Horchak, Jim Franks, Richard Pinelli, Clyde Kilough, etc., were all aware of what had taken place with this elder and how he had molested a young girl. 

There are three reasons why I’ve waited until now to shine some
light on this very troublesome situation. First, the church asked all
family members to not discuss the case until a decision was reached
or else they would drop the appeal. Second, I really believed that
the leaders of our church would take at least some just action to
resolve the issue of an elder and sexual harassment. Third, after
reading Mr. Pinelli’s misleading response I felt it necessary to
share some relevant facts in this matter.

It is a fact that an elder in WV has sexually harassed my sister-in-
law. The “hugs” were accurately described in posts by
Lindap, the elder would sneak up from behind, lock his arms directly under the
breasts and then squeeze very tightly and lift for an extended period
of time. There was indeed touching that could be categorized, at the
very least as grossly inappropriate, and more accurately as
molestation. I can absolutely guarantee you that such hugs would be
grounds for severe discipline or reprimands were they to take place
at one of our UCG Youth Camps. This situation involves an ordained
official in UCG, are the standards less? This act of touching
inappropriate body parts is in and of itself defined as sexual
harassment in UCG’s own Sexual Misconduct Guidelines (Section N
reads: “No lewd touching or other inappropriate contact of a
sexual nature is permitted with minors”).

There will still be some who will defend this elder’s actions as
Mr. Pinelli did by describing them as “signs of grandfatherly
affection” or by arguing that the elder meant nothing perverse by them. I
already believe the prior paragraph alone, would require for UCG
leaders to take some kind of action. But to those who are still
skeptical let me provide the following evidence that has led me to
believe his actions reflected his intent.

Read the entire story here: More sexual shenanigans recently in the COG

West Virginia seems to  present UCG with a lot of issues.  A few years ago there was a UCG member in WV who embezzled hundreds of thousands of dollars from the bank she worked in.  She would show up at UCG services and hand out envelopes of cash to people who were in need and who needed help to attend the Feast.  She took a lot of the money and built the local congregation their own church building.  When she was arrested and then jailed the government repossessed the UCG church building and took it away from them.  The last I heard UCG made no attempt to repay any of the stolen money.

Apostle Malm: Catholics Invented Islam To Kill Off Church of God Members and Jews

Apostle Malm is doing a series of posts over the next few days on Islam, Christianity and the Jews. One of his acolytes is claiming that Islam was invented by the Catholic Church in order to kill off all Christians and Jews.

James, what do you think of the notion that is out there about the apostate church “inventing Islam” in the beginning as a means to Help destroy the Jews and true Christians? It is said that “The Vatican helped to finance the three Islam armies of old, in exchange for three favors: One was to eliminate the Jews and Bible Believers. One was to protect the Augustinian monks and the Roman Catholics, and the last reason was the most important; to conquer Jerusalem for the Pope. The Muslim army conquered Jerusalem, but refused to co-operate with the Vatican. “. 

There are so many similarities within these religions, from physical idols to human idols, etc., and obviously they are both from Babylon. I guess it really doesn’t matter how Islam got its roots, so long as we realize that all of this false religion is from satan. It shows how the drive for ” peace and all-one religion” will be able to come about so easily when radical Islam is declared to be done away. Their premises are so similar, but most cannot see it

The Apostate Apostle answers: 

You are correct! Tomorrow I am covering the Ottoman Empire to the present. The next day I will cover the fact that all religions including Catholicism, Islam and modern Judaism are only different cosmetically and actually are the same. Satan is the god of this world and has deceived the whole world. God has prevented him from actually uniting these religions into one; but that will change with the final false prophet who will be allowed to deceive the WHOLE WORLD and he will become the ultimate moral authority for all religions. It is this COG “Islam is worst” nonsense that is deceiving them into a false position on prophecy; that I am trying to deal with. James

So much of Armstrongite thought processes take factual events of history, dress it up with conspiracy theories and stupid speculations and them promotes it as truth. Uneducated readers can read the above and find it to make sense to them.  However, if you do research on the topics Armstrongites claim authority on, you quickly see that it is a mixture of all kinds of truths, half truths, speculations and out right lies.  That is exactly  how they interpret scripture too.  It sounds halfway good at first glance but then when you really look into it, it is nothing more than an abominable mess.

The Shrinking Church

This was sent to me today.  Reading this you have to wonder what is the purpose of leaving the doors open any longer for GCI?  While many people had high hopes it would morph into something bigger and better, it just seems to be shrinking smaller and smaller.


To think that over the 70 some years of it's existence close to half a million members were on the WCG church membership list. The chruch area I grew up[ in (Dayton Ohio) had over 700 members by the time I left to come to Pasadena in 1975.  It was common in many areas to have church memberships in the 300+ range.  Sure, there were lots of smaller one, but many were large in number.  Now to see that average attendance for GCI in late 2011 is 26 is appalling.

...the following statistics which I obtained on October 31, 2011 in a phone conversation with Nancy Akers, who is the executive secretary to the Superintendent of Ministers in America. 1) Our weekly attendance in America is 7,832. This is 9% of what it used to be. 2) We have 300 congregations. While this number has only declined by approximately a third, the decline in average attendance per congregation is shocking. In 1989 it was 191; by October of 2011, it was only 26.