Ron Weinland: More Juror Comments

One of the jurors has added more to the story of what it was like listening to Ron Weinland's trial.  This is only a partial quote, go here to read the entire posting on Mikes most excellent blog! Keep up the heat!

 Juror Comment

There are really not any applicable words to describe this extremely dirty mess. It stinks really badly!

I can not imagine the frustration and hurt of many that this low life has instilled. People giving life savings…..etc; For what? To fund this diabolical scums jet setting life style and shopping sprees. I saw receipts from restaurants that ranged between $150 to $400 a pop. Many, many, many. On a daily and weekly basis. The IRS didn’t count hardly any of these either because they could have been church and travel related. Yea, right!

 If the agent had more than three weeks before the trial began to review all of his expenses it would be staggering I am sure.Another dirty tactic the defense used was with holding their evidence until 3 weeks before the trial started so the prosecution didn’t have time to look at anything. They did not need it. The prosecution just concentrated on the simple an blatant things.

 This jackass is the king all right. The king of the Weinland Disgusting Dynasty. This man redefines many things. Better yet, he is not even a real man. Real men do not act in such a manner and prey on others. He is a spineless coward hiding behind insanity. That would have been a much better defense but would not have worked either. He is cold, calculating, and too articulate to pass as a nut case. He is in my opinion a classic example of a sociopath. Google that term. I will ensure you that he fits most, if not all, of the traits and characteristics.

 I do not feel any compassion for Jeremy nor Audra neither. They are not kids, but adults, with full knowledge what is going down with the money train. In fact, they are using it for a paycheck along with mom & dad. I suggest they go get a real job. What are they going to put on their resume? Thief in training, conspirator, money launderer, go with the flow & benefit guy or gal, or I can play dumb as an actor/actress. They are not oblivious to what is going on. They receive plenty of “hush money” though. I am confident that they are enjoying the fruits just as well.

I really do feel for those of you who have been tangled up in this mess. In simple terms, it is unjust and very wrong. I am glad to see that some have figured it out. This low life will never quit though. You need to understand that. As soon as he gets out of the pokey he will be right back at it. This tool is an addict. Instead of drugs it is green backs! Greed is his driving force and in my opinion it has absolutely nothing to do with God nor being religious. That is just the cover he chooses to use.

Further down was this:

Juror#215 says:

June 15, 2012 at 19:02

Jack365, maybe the members would like to know the “accounting process” by which Mr and Mrs Weinland handled expenses.

All of the church expenses, from book related costs, to the airfare, lodging and meals during the constant travels, all of these were placed on one of the Weinland’s many personal credit cards, each with a $50,000 credit limit. The reason they used only personal credit cards was that a “church” couldn’t get the kind of credit they needed on a monthly basis to keep up their lifestyle. These cards were not just used for legitimate church expenses, but also for their everyday personal expenses, lavish shopping trips, jewelry, art purchases, expensive meals out on the town around northern Kentucky, and all of Mr Weinland’s frequent trips to Las Vegas. Did you know that he spent a lot of time in Vegas? From what I heard, PKG doesn’t have a congregation there.

Anyway, everything that the Weinlands needed to spend money on for any reason was charged to those cards. When the bills came in, the full amount of the bill was transferred from PKG accounts into the Weinland’s personal accounts to pay each of the cards off each month. At times, Audra would have to monitor the balances mid-month if any of the cards were getting close to their $50K limits, and would make several $40,000 transfers from the PKG accounts to the Weinland’s personal accounts to keep them paid down as they continued to spend, spend, spend.

When the credit card statements came in, it was Mrs Weinland’s job to check the charges, and decide if any were strictly personal expenses. If there were, she was supposed to write a check from the personal account back into the PKG account. The defense offered no evidence that this reimbursement to PKG was ever actually done.

Now, I’m no accountant, but I do work for a living for a company that has an accounting department that has a process to track and reimburse the expenses of its employees, and I don’t think that this system would meet any kind of auditing guidelines for legal financial activity.
This process is called “co-mingling” and it makes keeping accurate financial records very difficult. It is one of the tactics that criminals use to steal large sums of money, not the way that honest people do honest business.

There’s a big chunk of the iceberg for you.

Ron Weinland Jurors Speak Out

Mike has two very interesting letters from jurors that helped convict Ron Weinland this week.

The foreman of the jury writes:

When I left the courthouse that afternoon, I felt very tired and physically drained by the decision that we had to make, and by the gravity of the consequences for Mr Weinland, even though we all felt that he deserved to be found guilty and that he should receive the maximum penalties that could possibly be given.  Reading the comments from all of you on this blog that night, I was uplifted by the unanimous relief and gratitude from the commenters at the verdict that we had reached.  We knew that the way that Mr Weinland was fleecing his members by convincing them that he was a Prophet who had the ultimate authority on Earth over the church and humanity was deplorable, and the fact the members were handing over so much of their money just to have it spent on Mr Weinland’s luxuries was repellent.

Another juror writes:

I was on the jury. This clown is a predator. The judge will give him the max (5yrs.) in my guess. I think Laura, Jeremy, & Audra should be indicted as well, along with some others. Seeing what this family has done makes me sick! The way I see it, what he was actually charged with is a small drop in the bucket as to how much money he has looted. The Weinland Clan riffled through $4.5 million in just over a few years.

There was not much comingling of funds. It was ALL HIS! In my mind, this pile of dung spent 90% of that money. The prosecution did not even begin to sort out what Ronald McScammer said was a church exspense on his behalf etc;. The IRS gave all of that to him. The ONLY legit exspenses I saw were very minor, as in slim to none.

The money completeley paid for any and all lifestyles for Laura, Ron, Jeremy and his wife, Audra and her husband, Darymple’s, and others. Out of the 90% of $4.5 million, the Weinlands alone, spent at least 80% of that money. We are talking Lasik eye surgery, Insight cable bills, utility bills, car insurance, global & domestic shopping sprees for clothing, art, & jewelry, homes, on and on….basically everything and then some. In a nutshell these scumbags paid any and all exspenses down to groceries and morning coffee out of these church donations! The so called “church money” equals Ron and families money.

What a brazen piece of garbage. These people are sociopaths. I feel for those of you who were ever entangled with this freak! There is nothing at all Godly about this man. That is putting it lightly.

 Read both entire letters here: Voice From Weinlands Jury

Dale Schurter: Only Restored Church of God Going to Place of Safety

Dale Schurter, the back-stabbing defector from United Church of God is back again after another stint in Dave's reeducation camp.  Dale sends a letter to all of the folks in United and elsewhere extolling the glorious Dear Leader and his message.  Dale also wants you to know several important facts:

1)      The government of God is not found in any splinter group: Every Church of God out there in the land of Laodicea is an apostate false church that is unfit for membership in.  Only by being in the Restored Church of God can you come under true government where the Dear Leader can reeducate you into blind submission.

This government has specific offices Christ placed into the Church: “And He gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; for the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God…” (Eph. 4:11-13). None of the splinters faithfully hold to this understanding, restored in the twentieth century!

2)      The splinters have either watered down or rejected the place of safety doctrine: A place of protection is promised to “the woman,” the true church—and only to that one, unified, organized body of believers: “And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from [away from—out of reach of] the face of the serpent” (Rev. 12:14).

All of you folks in UCG and other splinter groups you need to wake up to the fact your ass is grass.  You are never going to Petra.  It is reserved for Dave and crew.  Of course Dave will be outside in the Marriott while the dumb sheep are starving to death inside.

3) Divorce and remarriage has been liberalized: Most splinters now exercise their own convenient, man-made theology when it comes to divorce and remarriage. It has become common practice in many splinters to allow the divorcing of a mate who departs from his or her “organizational fellowship” to another “COG,” with the remaining spouse then deemed free to marry again within their present organization, regardless of other circumstances. Others allow someone who has jumped ship to their COG organization to be free to divorce and marry again within his or her “new” group.

4)      The splinters have lost sight of what was and was not God’s Church through history: Among the splinters, the line between the Church and the world—between the children of light and the children of darkness—becomes blurrier all the time. Many have forgotten who the true people of God were in each era, and who were the illegitimate “splinters” and offshoots—which have virtually always existed, beginning in the Ephesian era.

With over 700 some splinter groups pout here now, all believing they are the one and only true church it is hard for the average COGer to know here to go.  Defector Dale wants you to know that the true church is the one and only Restored Church of God under the leader ship of Dave.

Only by joining forces with Dave, sending in your money, and submitting to your overlords, can your salvation be assured.  So step right up and surrender your brain and reasoning to the lord and master.

To be a part of those who are used to finish God’s Work, and are delivered from the face of the devil during the soon-coming Great Tribulation, this knowledge—and the action that is demands of those who prove it—is essential.