Chewing The Cud

I had to laugh when I saw this.  I remember when I was little that we traveled to the feast in Jekyll Island, Georgia from Ohio.  We took with us this absolutely nut-job member and her son.

This women had buttons missing on her clothes and I remember my mother telling her that she would sew some new buttons on as we drove along.  The woman refused.  She said God did not look at the outer person, but only the inward person.

Then we stopped to eat and the woman asked this question.

Crazy as hell!

Dennis on: "It's None Of Your Business!"

Now there is a phrase I'd like to see the average Church of God member adopt ASAP and understand what topics it might apply to as they allow themselves to be ruled over by the ministerial elite, such as a self appointed Apostle, Prophet  or That Prophet .   I know the average COG member thinks that they have to answer every question and inquiry a minister can come up with, but this is not actually so.

"Why weren't you at Church this Sabbath?"

None of your business

"Where were you for Bible Study?"

None of your business

"I have checked your tithing and you aren't up to date."

That's really none of your business

"Do you have a blog site?

None of your business

"Are you reading  blogs about the Church?'

None of your business

(My favorite)

"Do you know Dennis Diehl?"

None of your business

"Do you believe this is God's Church and I am it's leader?"

Ummm..none of your business

"Why weren't you at Spokesman Club, Church outing, family night, movie night, district weekend, join the team, support the change drive or contribute to the Steuben fund?

None of your business

"What did you say to Mr We Don't Like Him?

None of your business

"Have you been talking to Mr. or Mrs. Marked for Life?"

None of your business

"What is your annual income?"

None of your business

"Does your wife work and what is her income?"

None of your business

"Is this your comment on BannedbyHWA??"

UMMM....NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS

"How much 2nd Tithe do you have?"

None of your business

"Shouldn't you be third tithing by now?"

None of our business

"Where are you going for the Feast?"

None of your business

HERE ARE SOME EVEN BETTER ANSWERS IT WOULD BE REFRESHING TO SEE COG MEMBERS PRACTICE MORE.

"Do you agree I am Joshua the predicted High Priest of Haggai?"

Not really...No.  You can be if you want.

"You are not to talk with or see your unconverted family."

No.  I'll talk with and see whomever I please.

"I marked that person. They are enemies of the Church."

No, that's my mom and I love her

"Do you understand I am 'That Prophet?"

I believe you believe that but , no I don't personally

"If I get off into strange and unusual ideas or go weird on the church and make the Bible start meaning things it never meant or see myself spoken of by the prophets,

 will you call me on it?"

Yes   and I am......

"Because you know that when that happens I won't want you to remember I said this. 

 I'll say this does not apply. 

No, no, no, no...this is different.  

Will you call me on it?"

Yes I will

"But I said 'I'm not going anywhere Brethren' so do you trust me not to?"

Oh no sir.  I trust no man and the older I get the less I would and do. 

Let me ask you.  If I call you on going weird and strange and trying to get me to forget you said to be looking out for that in you, will you listen?"

"NO..I won't have to because I said I am not going anywhere and that should be good enough for you.  Do you think I would get weird or strange ideas about myself like seeing myself spoken of by the prophets?"

Yes sir you have and you have already gone somewhere and I'm not going.

"Do you read Banned HWA?"

Yes and time will tell if Haggai was really all about you, which it is not.

"Hey, I'm not done with you. Where are you going?"

None of your business

contact Dennis at: denniscdiehl@AOL.com

Ron Weinland: My Second Witless Witness Wife And Daughter Need To Go To Europe This Summer - Give Them All Your Money

Ron Weinland, the imprisoned felon and discredited Armstrongite cult leader is sending his second witless witness wife Johnny Harrell, and money laundering daughter off to Europe this summer for "official" church visits.  For this to happen the widows need to sacrifice their money they use for medicine and food so that they can send more money in to fund these trips.

Weinerdude's wife Laura has been well know for having a bottomless purse that regularly fills up with diamonds and other expensive items.  She turns her receipts in as church expense and Audra pays for it.  Before Weinerdude went to prison, Laura wore several large gold and diamond rings.  This was fast money in case the world came to an end while they were traveling and they needed fast cash.

You can see from the dates that they will spend at least 1 week in London, one of the most expensive cities in the world.  You can be guaranteed they will NOT be staying in an Easyhotel or other low priced hotel.

June 29 – Indianapolis, IN -  Laura Weinland, Audra Little
July 20 – London, England – Laura Weinland, Johnny & Myrtle Harrell,  Audra Little
July 27 – The Netherlands – Laura Weinland, Johnny & Myrtle Harrell,  Audra Little
August 17 – Portland, OR – Laura Weinland, Terry Wrozek, Audra Little, Amanda Wrozek

Their Fabricated Tithing Doctrine: This is the big daddy. This is their sacred cow. This is the beating heart of their evil empire. The crown jewel. The Death Star.

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Their Fabricated Tithing Doctrine

This is the big daddy. This is their sacred cow. This is the beating heart of their evil empire. The crown jewel. The Death Star. The one ring to bill them all. The pot of gold. Their matrix (into which they want to plug you). Their Wizard of Oz. Their magic spell. Their special power. Their secret recipe with the eleven herbs and spices. Their Golden Goose. The very air upon which they breathe!

Question this doctrine and watch these money hungry pastors bare their fangs. This is a teaching that they will bear no compromise on. Tithing, or at least their own version of tithing, is their one true love.

Here are some bullet points about tithing that these money hungry pastors don’t want you to know:

• The New Testament Church did not tithe.
• The New Testament does not teach tithing for Christians.
• Their favorite Malachi verses cannot be used for Christians since Christians are not under the law of Moses.
• Abraham’s one off tithe of his war booty did not set up a precedent for Christians to regularly tithe their income.
• The version of tithing they teach cannot be found in Scripture (see below).
• The “Storehouse” in Malachi cannot be equated to your local church organization.
• There are plenty of rich (money wise) Christians who do not tithe. This would be impossible if their version of tithing was true.
• The New Testament teaching is that you decide how much to give, and there are no rules about where it goes. You cannot be compelled to give.

It may come as a surprise to learn that their tithing doctrine is a combination of twisted scriptures and wishful thinking, as opposed to solid Biblical exegesis reflecting a central thrust of New Testament teaching. Here is their tithing doctrine stated in a nutshell:

“Christians must give ten percent of their gross income only to their church organization. If they do, then God will bless them for any offerings they make to the church organization beyond this ten percent. But if they do not give ten percent gross, then they are stealing from God and God will curse them.”

There are variations of this teaching, and sometimes it is called a “principle”, but the above definition contains the core essence of this doctrine.

It is vital to grasp that tithing is not for Christians. Tithing was part of the old law (of Moses) which was fulfilled (completed) by Jesus. You know that Christians are not under the law of Moses don’t you?

But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code. – Romans 7:6

know that a man is not justified by observing the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by observing the law, because by observing the law no one will be justified. – Galatians 2:16

All who rely on observing the law are under a curse, for it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.” – Galatians 3:10

New wine should not be put into old wine skins, nor should new unshrunk cloth be used to patch an old garment; if you think you need to obey the law of tithing then you need to obey the whole law (or you will be cursed, Galatians 3:10).

What is more, this tithing doctrine they teach isn’t found in either the New or Old Testament. Tithing in the old testament does not match what these pastors preach – this unique tithe teaching is of their own invention.

This is such an important subject that Cultwatch has a special website TithingDebate.com dedicated to setting Christians free from this fake doctrine. There are free books to download and articles to read. Make sure you read our article “Should you give? New Testament Giving Supported!”, because Cultwatch is not anti-giving. If you think tithing is for Christians today, then you need to read TithingDebate.com

Tip: If you are struggling to feed your family or buy them clothes, then understand that you do not need to give to the church. You can still do so if you choose, but you should not feel under compulsion since your family is more important. Also understand that if you are poor then that does not mean God is cursing you, or that you have done something wrong; this is an erroneous teaching these greedy men promote to guilt you into giving. Remember, your duty is to your family first. If anyone does not provide for his relatives, and especially for his immediate family, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever. – 1 Timothy 5:8

Tip: Churches that push this erroneous tithing doctrine will often try to enforce tithing via written agreements (called covenants), and also by monitoring what people give (so they can compel them to give more if they are not meeting the ten percent target). First, grasp that these “covenants” are illegitimate and not worth the paper they are printed on, because they contain false doctrine (like tithing) and set up the pastors as a false authority over you. God would not be party to a covenant that contains falsehoods, therefore God was not party to the covenant you were pressured to sign, therefore you are free from this burden. It is as if you never signed it. Second, recording what you give and using that information to pressure you to give more is wrong, the Bible implies that our giving is best done in secret so that only we and God know what we gave. Don’t go to a church where they monitor what you give. (note: some churches voluntarily let you record what you have given via a numbered envelope system for tax purposes. Done correctly, no one in the church will know what you gave. There is nothing wrong with this kind of recording.)

Your Counter Strategy: Stop giving to that church until they change their ways. That doesn’t mean to stop giving to Godly works, we would encourage you to give as the Holy Spirit prompts you and as you decide. But it is valid to protest false doctrine by refusing to fund the system that promotes that false doctrine.