David C Pack: Your Refusal To Believe My 'god' Can Change Its Mind Is Proof of Your Sinfulness

David C. Pack is now shifting blame for his grossly public failure to the bad attitudes of COG members.  They criticize him now because they refuse to admit his god may have changed his mind.  Davey never made a mistakes, his god delayed the great reunification, so live with it!

Since his god has apparently changed its mind, the the people should be willing to shift their beliefs to a new time frame.  Its still going to happen, but just on a different date. 

Christians should always want God’s will in every matter. This includes matters of prophetic timing. If God intends to fulfill this prophecy in another timeframe, then Christians should want that timeframe, not their own. God’s will is to be done on Earth in every regard, and we are to be praying for this every day (Matt. 6:10). Think of the coming of God’s kingdom. While we all want to see it come tomorrow—TODAY would be better—we should want God’s timing more than our own. Seeking God’s will in everything is always the Christian path. This includes prophecy.

So then, how long will you wait for prophecy? The answer should be until God’s will is done. I realize that disbelieving accusers are never going to wait for what they do not believe. Having never believed the prophecy as it was revealed in the first place, they are certainly not going to start now. But the prophecy is true—right!—and it will occur whether or not you wait for God.

David C. Pack: I Have Been Waiting For 47 Years For Christ To Return, Don't Get Pissed At Me For A Wrong Date

As usual, it is all about Davey. Davey has been waiting patiently for Jesus Christ to return for 47 years now.  Because of his sterling example you have no right to criticize him for giving out a wrong date.  He does not criticize Jesus Christ for not returning, so you cannot criticize him.

When things took longer, did the apostles panic, leave the Church and give up Christianity? No! They waited on God. This is what Christians do! These men remembered Christ’s words: “In your patience possess you your lives” (Luke 21:19).

God’s people are today waiting for many prophecies to be fulfilled—with this new one to come first. For over 47 years, I have been waiting for Christ’s Return, waiting for great prophecies to be fulfilled, waiting to be born into the kingdom of God, waiting for the Day of the Lord, waiting for protection in the place of safety and waiting for the abomination to appear. If you are watching as Christ commanded, so also have you been waiting. And still, as of yet, NONE of these events have happened. Not one.

David C. Pack: If the Apostles Could Be 2,000 Years Off on the Expected Return of Christ, Then You Should Not Be Upset With Me for A Wrong Date

David C. Pack now has placed himself in league with all the Apostles and Jesus' own bothers.  They were all wrong on their dates so he can be too.

The big difference between the Apostles and Davey is that Davey gave a specific date.  All the Apostles were looking at a future date, knowing full well that it was at least sometime in the future with the hope it would be in their lifetime.  Davey said it was happening specifically by August 31, 2013.  Davey was not about some future date, but a specific date that was immediate.

Think of the original apostles. They watched and waited year after year after year for Christ’s Return, absolutely believing this would happen in their lifetimes (I Cor. 15:51; I Thes. 4:15). Yet they were off by almost 2,000 years—a full THIRD of the entire length of God’s Plan! However rare, some few may think about this. Here’s what virtually no one reflects on. There was much more that they were waiting on and believed they would live to see—all of the OTHER events preceding Christ’s Return: the falling away, the Four Horsemen of Revelation, the arrival of the Beast, the False Prophet, the abomination of desolation, Jerusalem surrounded by armies, being taken to safety, as well as the Tribulation, Heavenly Signs and Day of the Lord. For decades, the apostles’ senses told them that all of these things lay just over the horizon—that they would live to see ALL of them fulfilled. Think. ALL of the apostles—every one of them!—got ALL MATTERS wrong in regard to timing—EVERYTHING!—and for almost an entire LIFETIME—again, including being off by 2,000 YEARS. Two were Christ’s own brothers, James and Jude. Two more, Peter and Paul, were leading apostles. It is no wonder that Mr. Armstrong himself was wrong for a time regarding Christ’s

Return—and thus also was necessarily incorrect about the timing of everything prophetic that preceded it. But only his enemies crucified him. Mr. Armstrong lived to see virtually none—NONE!—of the things that he expected to see. I wonder how many brethren—first century or twentieth century—gave up on big prophecies because the apostles—first century or twentieth century—had their timing wrong. These men did not have the prophecies themselves wrong, but merely only the TIMING. Get the difference. 

In Davey speak this translates into: "If they can get a date wrong, so can't I; so live with it!"

Dave Says He Is "Waiting", but on What?

David C Pack says he and the entire church is writing for the day they can all become one Church of God again.  He then goes on to quote several scriptures to back up his "truth."

True  Christians are not "waiting" for some grand reunification of the Churches of God.


True Christians are those that wait on the return of Jesus Christ with great expectations.

Consider Zechariah 11:11. When God breaks his staff called “Grace,” it says: “…the poor of the flock that waited upon Me [God] knew that it was the word of the Lord.” This is a fascinating statement. We all are waiting for reunification. But a unique group called the “poor of the flock”—the prophecy reveals this to be God’s true people—are waiting on God. Waiting for God’s purpose to be fulfilled is nothing new for true Christians. The scriptures are filled with examples of God’s people waiting on Him—for healing, deliverance, guidance, a mate, a child, a job, prophecy to be fulfilled, and ultimately salvation. Notice just a few quotes from the Psalms, as well as one from James and one from Daniel:

Psalm 25:3, 5, 21: “Yes, let none that wait on You be ashamed…Lead me in Your truth, and teach me: for You are the God of my salvation; on You do I wait all the day…Let integrity and uprightness preserve me: for I wait on You.”
Psalm 27:14: “Wait on the Lord: be of good courage, and He shall strengthen your heart: wait, I say, on the Lord.”
Psalm 37:7, 9, 34: “Rest in the Lord, and wait patiently for him…those that wait upon the Lord, they shall inherit the earth…Wait on the Lord, and keep His way…”
Psalm 52:9: “…I will wait on Your name; for it is good before your saints.”
Psalm 59:9: “Because of His strength will I wait upon You: for God is my defence.”
Psalm 62:5: “My soul, wait you only upon God; for my expectation is from Him.”
Psalm 69:3: “I am weary of my crying: my throat is dried: mine eyes fail while I wait for my God.”
Psalm 69:6: “Let not them that wait on You, O Lord God of hosts, be ashamed for my sake: let not those that seek You be confounded for my sake, O God of Israel.”