My Campus Is Like The City of Zion

The incomplete City on the Hill

Just as Jesus feet supposedly walked the green hills of England, Dave Pack's "jesus" will return to walk the green hills of Wadsworth, Ohio.  After all, it is just like Zion!  Awesome!

Let me make a summary statement, brethren. Zion is then a very long, thin city…And for the moment, think of our campus as about three-quarters of a mile long or about 4,000 feet, but only a third of a mile wide at its widest point…maybe 1,700 feet…but in places, the campus is only a third of that, maybe 6- or 700 feet. So much like Mount Zion, we are a long, thin campus that runs, let’s say, 6- or 700 feet up to 1,700 feet wide, while it is 4,000 feet long. And that’s interesting to consider, that will come up later in the sermon.

Anyone Who Leaves My Church Is "Spewed Out" By Christ

One of the fear tactics that the church has always used to scare people into "obedience," was the false claim that if you left the church that Jesus Christ spits you out of the body.  It is never you leaving the organization because it is corrupt to the core, but that  Jesus Christ got sick and tired of your bellyaching and whining and "spewed" you out.

Superfantabulous Dave Pack says:

“I know your works, that [you’re] neither cold nor hot…[I wish] you were [one or the other] cold or hot. [But]…because you are [barely warm. That’s what it means.] neither cold nor hot, I will spew you out of my mouth” (Rev. 3:15-16). That happened decades ago, and anybody who grows lukewarm, today, and you see them leave, they’re spewed out of their mouth. Christ just turns their head a quarter-turn, and out they go. They think they rejected us, but they’re really the rejectees, not the rejectors, by a loving Christ Who says, “I can’t work with you here. You’re not getting it. You’re going to have to go through some real tough times.” And so out they go, thinking they decided to leave, but in many cases, Christ had to expel them, because we’re not going to go around and put them out. We can’t read their hearts anyway.

I’ve seen it happen many times; but for the most part, it happened twenty-some years ago. Tens of thousands of people were just spewed out of Christ’s Body, that’s what it means—out of His mouth. When they were spewed out of Christ’s mouth, it means out of His Body. What else would it mean? They’re His people and He loves them—but they’re not in the Body of Christ. They’re part of the Temple—they’re part of the flock—they’re part of the called-out ones, the Church—but they’re not in the Body of Christ, because out of His Body they went. And when you vomit people, they’re only going to come out one place—so out of the Body. They were in wretched condition, so He said to them…

Creditors Bob....CREDITORS!

Bob Thiel continues, in typical Church of God tradition, to make Scripture mean what it never meant to mean for a time it never meant to mean it

http://www.cogwriter.com/news/prophecy/the-prophet-isaiah-recorded-predictions-for-the-end-times-about-the-usa-germany-and-others/

"Since Isaiah lived 2700 plus years ago, could his writings be applicable today?

Yes.

One thing he wrote 

12 As for My people, children are their oppressors, And women rule over them. O My people! Those who lead you cause you to err, And destroy the way of your paths. (Isaiah 3:12)

Of course, women are influential in the English-speaking nations,  (Poster's Note: GHASTLY DAYS!) Yet, ever since Margaret Thatcher was prime minister of the United Kingdom, I have felt that it is likely that the USA would end up with a female president or at least a highly influential woman in a top level federal government job. As it turns out, the four remaining predominantly British-descended nations (the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand) all have had not only queens (they shared the same ones), but all have already had a woman in the office of prime minister. The prime minister is the chief executive official in a parliamentary system of governance.

Since the physically territorial and other blessings affected the descendents of Ephraim first (cf. Genesis 48:17-19), it would seem that certain passages of scripture, such as Isaiah 3:12 discussing female rule, would also affect them first.

While the U.S. does not have a parliamentary form of governance with a prime minister, it does have a chief executive official who fills the office of president. And the U.S. has never had a female as its president. Now, because the U.S. has already had women rule in high positions, it may not be prophetically required to have a woman as its president to fulfill part of the prophecy in Isaiah 3:12, yet it very well may need to.

Hillary Clinton was fulfilling part of that verse for many years herself as a US senator then Secretary of State. And there have been various female Supreme Court justices, senators, etc. who also have, including Janet Yellen, chair of the Federal Reserve. While it is not absolutely required that the USA itself have a woman president, I do feel that if we do get one, that this would be a partial, but significant, fulfillment of that prophecy from Isaiah."

(Emphasis mine)

(Poster's Note: Let's not leave out Sally Yates and Elizabeth Warren)

ON THE OTHER HAND...

Isaiah 3:12 might make more sense and be less available to use to denigrate intelligent and talented women in our present times if, according to a Jewish commentator:

"3:12 A babe is their master and women rule over them.  The same word here is used for "babe" as in Verse 4, and the commentators translate it as either a symbol of weak rulers or of mockers and cynics. Kimchi adds that, because of their sexuality (it has been a common misconception, from ancient times up to the present day, that women are more sexually enticing, and more sexually motivated, than men are), the men will fall under the domination of women. Krauss calls attention to the fact that the word for "women" (nashim) can also be read as "creditors," and that all the ancient translations indicate that one of the misfortunes that will come to them is that they will be always in the hands of their creditors."

http://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/isaiah-31-15-a-commentary/

And while no one would argue the problem of creditors is always with us, Isaiah was not looking ahead 2700 years.  He was waiting for his next notice of late payment

God's Most Important End Time Work Is Drawing HUGE Numbers Of Potential Money Making Members

From an LCG source:

Living Church of God has been running a series of Tomorrow's World presentations in various cities from the midwest to the east coast and in Canada.

Thousands of dollars in tithe money have been spent to put on these presentations.  Hall rental fees, hotel accommodations for speakers, videographers, and publicity are just a few of the expenses used in putting on these presentations.

Much like the epic failure of the UCG with their campaigns, LCG has been failing miserably.

Nashville, TN 

has a population of 678,889 and attracted 20 potential money-making commodities.

Beaumont, TX 

has a population of 117,585 and attracted 10 potential money-making commodities.

Calgary, Alberta 

has a population of 1,214,839 and attracted 42 potential money-making commodities.

Cambridge, Ontario 

has a population of 126,748 and attracted 30 potential money-making commodities.

When you read Weston's snow job below you are expected to think that is an amazing thing that so few actually attended these presentations.

There were four Tomorrow’s World Presentations last weekend. In addition to our members, we had 20 guests in Nashville, Tennessee; 10 in Beaumont, Texas; 42 in Calgary, Alberta; and 30 in Cambridge, Ontario. This Sunday we have another one scheduled for Manhattan, New York where we have invited over 5,000 guests. So far this year we have held 18 TWPs and we have a good number on the schedule for the coming months. I especially enjoyed my trip to Nashville as it gave me the opportunity to spend time with our minister and his family. Darrell Lovelady serves three congregations in addition to Nashville, which keeps him quite busy. On our return we stopped in Knoxville, Tennessee to spend a few hours with Martin Fannin, along with his wife and daughter. The Fannins also serve four congregations. Meanwhile, weeks of heavy rains have caused severe, even historic, flooding in much of the United States Midwest and South. Parts of Missouri, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Texas, and Louisiana have been especially hit hard. Please remember our members who may be in the way of this current disaster.