The self-appointed "prophet" Is MAD! Mad I tell you! Mad! Mad! Mad!

Well dang! I've gone and ticked off God's one and ONLY true prophet! The self-appointed prophet from Arroyo Grande is mad tonight!  Mad! Mad! Mad! 

Whoa boy! He tried to display some manly whoop-ass but, it kind of backfired, as usual.

Bob Thiel, of the improperly named "continuing" Church of God is spitting mad tonight. We have been commanded to believe that all of Bwana Bob's dreams and Gaylon Bonjour's double blessings have set him apart to be a prophet of God and a leader of a splinter church. 

It's still a lie no matter how many times he tries to claim it is not.

Here is just part of the fun from the Great Bwana:

Notice something Gary Leonard posted yesterday:

When has the church ever had a modern-day prophet in its midst? Every single self-appointed prophet has been proven to be a certified liar.  Not one thing they have said has ever come true, and this includes Bob Thiel. (Ron Weinland: “I am the last apostle for the Church of God in this final age of mankind” June 20, 2020) 

While Gary Leonard tries to lump me in with people like CGPKG’s Ron Weinland, PCG’s Gerald Flurry, and until his death, James Malm. All of whom were self-appointed in the prophetic realm and all of whom clearly made false prophecies. The reality is that I am not self-appointed, nor a certified liar, plus predictions I have had have certainly come to pass. I have not been false–this fact (plus the fact I do not take a salary from CCOG) goes against the paradigms that people like Gary Leonard have. And in his case, result in him repeatedly posting falsehoods that the uninformed (as well as those who prefer to believe a lie) accept.

Bwana Bob claims Satan is behind people not believing him and associating him with other lying COG false prophets, like Weinland, Malm, Flurry, and Pack. 

Satan has long improperly used ‘guilt by association’ as a means to get people to not pay sufficient attention to the truth. Jesus, for example was “was numbered with the transgressors” (Luke 22:37), plus He taught that His opponents said He was “a glutton and a winebibber, a friend of tax collectors and sinners!” (Luke 7:34). Sadly, most professing Christians today are lukewarm and falsely feel it is ‘safer’ to not accept anyone could be a prophet, which is contrary to end time and other scriptures. 

Perhaps it should be pointed out that Gary Leonard calls me a liar, not because I have ever posted a lie, but because he cannot accept testimony about what happened with me on the prophet matter to be acceptable to him. Nor does he accept that God used dreams like the Bible prophesies. That is his loss, but that does not make me a liar.

False testimony of a self-appointed COG prophet is still a lie. God did not set Bwana Bob apart to lead a church and did not doubly bless him to ensure some mystical baton was passed off to him.  That is a fact. 

I as NOT self-appointed. Nor did I ask for anything like being anointed for a double-portion of God’s spirit.

Yes, he is! The more he tries to prove his self-appointed as something miraculous the bigger fool he looks. Gaylyn Bonjour had absolutely no intention of doubly blessing Bwana Bob to be a church leader. Bonjour rejected that Idea as did Rod Meredith.

Here is a short version for what happened: In November 2011, both LCG minister Dr. Jeff Fall and LCG minister Gary Ehman told me that I did NOT need to have hands laid upon me in order to be a true prophet of God. Yet, I told them that something like that needed to happen for me to accept it. And in November/December 2011, I prayed that if I truly had a prophetic role from God that He would have something happen during a planned mid-December 2011 trip to Charlotte, North Carolina to confirm it or deny it if that were His will. As it turned out, on 12/15/2011 hands were laid upon me in Charlotte by LCG minister Gaylyn Bonjour, who I had not even intended to see then (I had asked to see Gary Ehman, but as it turned out, he was not in the Charlotte office due to an unexpected illness). After seeing Gaylyn Bonjour mentioning some health issues and wisdom, he laid hands on me, and specifically prayed that I would be granted a “double-portion” of God’s Holy Spirit, and he anointed me with oil. Afterwards, Gaylyn told me that he had not ever requested a “double portion’ of God’s Spirit before on anyone, but he felt that it was reminiscent of the time that the prophetic and ecclesiastical leadership mantle passed from the Prophet Elijah to Elisha (2 Kings 2:9-13). Gaylyn Bonjour had been unaware that I had prayed that God would have me anointed or somehow identified for a prophetic role on that mid-December 2011 trip if that were His plan for me and I had never discussed my possible prophetic role with him prior to this anointing. On 12/18/12, I asked Gaylyn Bonjour if he knew what he may have unintentionally done and he said yes. This 12/15/11 anointing appears to be the first biblically-appropriate prophetic anointing in the Church of God in many decades, if not many, many multiple centuries. And the legitimacy of this anointing has been proven by subsequent events–though many do not seem to understand how God works at times.

Bwana Bob claims he knew Meredith's wife was going to die from cancer. And therefore was prophetic. Another tale of hot air. Only after the fact she was diagnosed was the prophecy revealed.  Some prophecy.

As it also turned out, I tried to meet with Dr. Meredith on December 19, 2011 to tell him that it seemed God was telling me that his wife was about to be struck with something serious. A few weeks later (per Dr. Meredith’s letter dated 1/12/12), Dr. Meredith reported that his wife (who was much younger than he) was stricken with stage four cancer (she later died on November 29, 2013). That prediction was not the result of analytical skills on my behalf, but I believe were insights from God’s Spirit.

In my view, the unexpected ‘double-portion anointing, Gaylyn Bonjour’s comments about the mantle passing, and my feeling led to tell of something about to hit Sheryl Meredith, were the result of God answering my prayers in November/December 2011 that the prophet matter would be confirmed or denied in Charlotte with my December 2011 trip. Essentially, this was THREE confirmations.

Whoa boy, the excuses are getting deeper! Still self-appointed though. 

Let this be clear, I was absolutely anointed, had hands laid over me, and the LCG minister who did so prayed that I would receive a ‘double-portion’ of God’s Holy Spirit, and afterwards that same minister (Gaylyn Bonjour) stated that this was reminiscent of the mantle passing from Elijah to Elisha (Gaylyn Bonjour also brought up the passing of the mantle related to this when we spoke on March 23, 2012). The fact that he did not originally intend to pray that I receive a ‘double-portion’ of God’s Holy Spirit is of no consequence, as the Bible shows that although Isaac had not intended to provide certain blessings to Jacob, once Isaac laid hands upon Jacob and gave the prayer, the anointed blessing would remain according to the Bible (Genesis 27)–and unlike Jacob, I did not employ any deceit in the anointing.

Bwana Bob claims he has "prophetic fruits." Just another in a long line of false prophets that have hit the church over the last 80 some years.  Every single one of them has been liars. 

Furthermore, understand that I believe that I do have the appropriate prophetic fruits that Jesus discussed (Matthew 7:15-20) and that those truly interested in the truth can see this if they truly wish to prayfully look into this. Perhaps it should be mentioned that while some question my ordination, others have also had concerns about God’s anointing and ordinations (2 Kings 9:1-11; Jeremiah 43:2; Genesis 27:26-37). God does not always do things the way humans think He does (cf. Isaiah 55:8-9).

Gary Leonard does not want to accept that I have the fruits of a prophet and meet the biblical and COG criteria for that.

How can I accept any of the lies of Bwana Bob as true when as a Christ denier he preaches useless nonsense that no Christian ever needs to worry about. Until he dumps every single myth of Herbert Armstrong, including the racist British Isrealism crappoloa and embraces the New Covenant, he CANNOT and WILL NOT be trusted by any real Christian. It simply can not happen.

In the meantime, I recommend this to Bwana Bob:

Lighten up buttercup! It's not like you are a prophet or anything.

Wade Cox is being conned by Africans like Bob Thiel...and...Those that preach Petra as a place of safety are "Dumb Dogs"

One would think after all of these years that the crackpots leading various Churches of God would have slithered away into their own little snake pits and would have disappeared.  But no, they still open their mouths and make asses of themselves for our pure entertainment.

This Sabbath we will pause to reflect on the work of God in the World through CCG and what He appears to be doing with us in our various operations.  In this past year we have received reports of quite some amazing growth. We have also had some reports of serious corruption in the ministry in one or two areas. We are dealing with those.

When most COG's talk about their growth they actually post numbers.  Not so with Wade Cox. He claims millions of members and at one time said half of the continent of Africa were members of his own church, even many Muslims.  Yet, he also claims he has no accurate records of how many members he has because he doesn't keep track of them. Apparently, that's the duty of his god.

With all those millions of people joining up with this most righteous and holy man the church has ever had in charge, there are snakes coming in trying to take advantage of this great man!  Who would have guessed?????  They have been doing the same thing to Bob Thiel and other Sabbatarian Churches throughout Africa for decades. Adventists know this but apparently, COG leaders are too stupid to know this.

This super righteous church leader claims he has the authority to place these dishonest people into the second resurrection.  Hilarious!  As if ANY COG leader can make that decision or even be a part of that discussion.  It is not a reality.

We will have to consolidate the new people coming into CCG and prepare them for the First Resurrection. There is quite a serious responsibility placed on church officers in getting people ready for the Kingdom.  Lying to the Church is lying to the Holy Spirit and whilst it may seem to confer some short term advantage it merely ensures that the ministers who lie or fail to discharge their duties or seek to gain advantage by dishonesty will merely be placed in the Second Resurrection as were almost the entire Sardis and Laodicean systems as we see from Revelation chapter 3.  Like any serious competition, we all run the race to win but we all seek to take the weakest over the line with us together as a body. The Holy Spirit will sort us out so as to enable that to occur.

It is worthwhile noting some very interesting aspects to what God is doing. He appears to be sending the Holy Spirit (No. 117) into the nations of Africa and to a lesser extent Asia.  At present God is letting the “Developed Nations” wither on the vine and they are being allowed to fester and rot with their riots and thefts and abortions and murders. They are not able to stand before the truth and seem unable to face the future. The aspects of false witness under the Ninth Commandment seem not to phase these people as they use their lies and defamation to mitigate against what we are telling the world as though that will ease the reality of what is before them.  God declared Sardis dead and He spewed them and Laodicea out of His Mouth. God seems about to destroy much of the world structure.

Cox is such a miraculous leader that absolutely NO ONE in his entire cult has COVID-19.  NO ONE!  That might be true if he would admit he has less than 100 members instead of multiple millions around the world.

The rivers and oceans have still to be turned increasingly to blood and we are now moving forward in our development.  We have untold numbers now but we have little strength.  Our people are poor but dedicated.  God is protecting us.  We have had no COVID-19 infestations to date. That is an amazing feat of God’s protection. Even in the many refugee camps and among our hundreds of thousands there is no pestilence among us to date.

Cox then takes a swipe at all COG leaders and groups that preach the Petra doctrine or "place of final training" or "place of safety."

Many of the offshoots seem to still believe that God will take them all to a ‘Place of Safety’.  They have asked their ministry where the Place of Safety (No. 194) is, and when they are to go there, but these false prophets have no idea and they cannot answer, other than so say they do not know. Now hear the Word of God you dumb dogs: There is no Place of Safety save in the Hand of God. As the Spirit said through Christ:”you will not have finished fleeing through the cities of Israel until the Son of Man comes” (Mat. 10:23).  Even then there will be no joy for you, as you will then face the tribulation and will not be spared.  

Rejoice in your calling ye Sons of Israel and Sons of the Living God. It is by and through the Law and the Testimony that you are called and made part of the Elect (Isa. 8:20, Rev. 12:17; 14:12).

Do not be discouraged. Now you see your calling.  There are tough times ahead but you will be taken through it in the faith. Discouragement is the weapon of the adversary. Put on the whole armour of God and prepare for what lies ahead of us.

Wade Cox
Coordinator General

The best thing any COG member could do to stop the constant discouragement they deal with is to LEAVE the church and regain your sanity! Hundreds of thousands of the  8 decades of the church have.

Ron Weinland: "I am the last apostle for the Church of God in this final age of mankind"

Its been a while since we have featured the one and only official FELON leading a COG ministry. We have plenty of ministers arrested for various things over the years, but none that have gotten out of prison and still pretend to run a church. and be an apostle.

Ron Weinland, like so many other self-appointed prophets and apostles to the church, just cannot get over the fact that people ignore him.

Candidly, I cannot help but be reminded of the prophet Jonah who tried to escape having to tell Nineveh what God told him to say about their destruction. I am not Jonah, but what I am to inform others concerning the writing of this book is that I am a prophet of God and have been sent by Him to do this job. In addition, I am the last apostle for the Church of God in this final age of mankind.

Poor Bob Thiel. When he read this he went whimpering to the back storeroom of his little HQ in Arroyo Grande whimpering like a sad little boy. How can this be?????  He and he alone is that last apostle to the church!

All of you ignorant Laodicean COG members out there that do not recognize this amazing truth are destined to suffer in the upcoming time of destruction that Mr. Potato Head is wishing upon us. Silly members!

I hate the fact that it has to take time and people having to experience the most destructive of end-time events before the reality of the events prove what I am saying. By that time, it will be too late to prepare. It would be so much better if the truth that God has revealed and given to me would speak for itself.

It has been the task of prophets through the ages to warn mankind of what will happen as a result of choosing to not listen to God. In those instances, the prophets would clearly identify the fact of who they were and that God had sent them with the messages they carried.

When has the church ever had a modern-day prophet in its midst? Every single self-appointed prophet has been proven to be a certified liar.  Not one thing they have said has ever come true, and this includes Bob Thiel.

So from this point forward, there will be things that I will state as a prophet and an apostle that have to do with those things that God has revealed to me to give. I am not as one of the prophets of old who were given prophecies that were given for the purpose of being recorded as scripture. Instead, I am one who has been given to interpret many of those prophecies that apply to this end-time about those things that are now going to come to pass.

I cannot help if some do not find what is written as being authoritative or true, but it is. So when I speak of something being “revealed,” it will be up to the reader to decide whether they believe that is true or not. There is simply nothing that can be quoted from scripture that “proves” these things as true. The proof is contained in all that has been previously written that exposes those things that are false in traditional Christianity and what is true biblically.

The point being in all this is that it isn’t the individual who carries the message that is important, but the fact that what they say comes from God, that is important. However, how people respond to what God has to say has most often determined how any prophet has been received. That in turn has much to do with how God will respond to those who listen and to those who do not.

God is making it clear in this final age of mankind’s self-rule that He will listen to those who will listen to Him and who begin making changes in their lives based on what He has revealed.

Ron goes on to list in detail all the failed prophecies he has uttered since 2008 and how God has miraculously inspired him to reveal new truths each time a prophecy failed. Weinland has so many failures that it's like Mr. Portato Head looking at all the pieces and being unable to figure out which one belongs where.

All of these stinking false prophets in the church has a new catchphrase when their prophecies never happen.  They were fulfilled "prophetically".

This book is entitled When the Countdown Ends. It has been stated repeatedly that there is a countdown leading up to WWIII and Christ’s return. It is my strongest belief that the count of prophetic 1,260-day periods has been completed and that countdown has ended, which was on the Pentecost of 2019.

However, that does not mean that WWIII or Christ’s return had to happen on that day. It should be obvious that there is still a prophetic countdown that will one day be revealed that led right up to Christ’s coming. How is that? It is by the knowledge that Christ will return on a Pentecost, but God has not revealed on what Pentecost that will be. So God’s Church will continue to watch for any new prophetic markers and inform everyone of those as soon as they are revealed if there is time and ability to do so.

What God has revealed is that the end-time countdown that led up to its complete prophetic fulfillment on the Pentecost of 2019 has been accomplished. All of this cries out that WWIII is at our doorstep and there is not much time to prepare.

There are many who have mocked God’s Church for warning people to prepare physically for what is coming by having a stock of food and other needful items that can last for one to three months. This isn’t as funny or weird to those people as it once seemed to be. With a pandemic, now people can more clearly grasp the need for such a thing and that will become far more essential once a war begins. Even something such as storing water becomes far more important and/or the use of a gravity type water filtering system (the Big Berkey is one of the best).

The event of the COVID-19 pandemic is proving to be the catalyst that will push nations into the final events that are about to be unleashed on a very unsuspecting world. The impact of the economic crisis that is now looming all over the world cannot be swept under the rug as it was in 2008. Nations are quickly hurtling toward a day of reckoning and that is now pushing nations toward war.

The global economy is beginning to implode. This began to accelerate well before the pandemic as a result of tariff wars that have thrown many nations into economic frustration with one another and massive disarray in the reliability of their own economic posturing and future plans. These are the kinds of things that push nations into war.

Time is not on our side any longer as everything is beginning to cry out that the world has arrivedto the point of final prophetic events that are about to be unleashed in this last period of the end-time. That final period begins with WWIII and ends with the return of Christ. From this point forward, the world is somewhat living on borrowed time.

You can read this train wreck (Chapter 9) from his new book here.

Vic Kubik: Whitewashing racism in the COG from the past and on todays troubles

Here is what Vik Kubik has to say:

The Church of God community is no stranger to racial issues. I personally witnessed church racial segregation at the 1966 Feast of Tabernacles in Big Sandy, Texas. I had recently traveled through the Soviet Union for six weeks as a translator and photographer with Herman Hoeh, managing editor of the Plain Truth magazine. Dr. Hoeh invited me to make a few remarks about the significance of the trip to about 12,000 members and families attending there.

As I looked over the crowd, I was taken aback. A very large group of black families was segregated together. In a now-obvious reflection of cultural trends of the times, the church misunderstood certain Bible verses and here was the result. The application of this misunderstanding physically segregated church members by race, which was, of course, not right.

Thankfully, that policy based on societal expectations and biblical misunderstanding ended, and our understanding improved. Unfortunately, remnants remained, particularly in pockets around the world. As people join the Body of Christ, wrong cultural attitudes need to be abandoned. We have made progress—more is needed.

But even back then, as we believe now, we understood that all people have access to the incredible human potential—the capacity to become a literal child of God (1 John 3:2) and live in glory for all eternity as a member of the God family. What is most important is that we fully understand how God views us and then rise to that standard.

I find it interesting that the church, even during the "enlightened" times Kubik refers to above, regularly called those that were not white, gentiles. That was especially evident with Mayor Tom Bradley was elected mayor of Los Angeles. The gentle black man was ruling over people. Kubik's co-workers in Pasadena in some of his fellow ministers said this.

What is God’s view of us now as literal children? “There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave [bondservant] nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus” (Galatians 3:28, English Standard Version).

Jesus Christ, whose incomprehensible sacrifice cleared the way for all to be reconciled to God, is the gateway to the true end of this current conflict.

In these times of upheaval, it is critical to remember that when God created all things through Jesus Christ (Hebrews 1:2; Colossians 1:16), marvelous diversity was the result. Whether Asian, African, Caucasian, Latin or other background, God pronounced all of it good. Concerning the Kingdom of God—the ultimate goal and objective of every disciple of Jesus Christ—God makes no differentiation to imply that one race is superior to any other. All are equal before Him. His goal, His desire, is that we all become one in Christ.

So, how do we respond to a call for change?

Let's start by putting a black man in charge of United Church of God! Have coordinators of foreign regions of the church regions men of color who are actually from those regions, not some white lackey from Cincinnati sent out into the field. 

First, we must remember that when Jesus came the first time, many thought (or wanted) Jesus to be a political deliverer to put Israel in place as a global-dominating world power. Even moments before a resurrected Jesus ascended to His Father, the apostles were still wondering about that possibility: “Lord, will You at this time restore the kingdom to Israel?” (Acts 1:6).

Despite living on this earth armed with all authority (John 17:2; Matthew 28:18), Jesus never incited political rebellion against Roman authorities or government leaders, despite having numerous opportunities.

And yet, Kubik and his small cabal of ministers in Pasadena incited rebellion against the mother church, while still on their payroll, to take as many members,, ministers and as much money as he could to start. new church. Kubik and his bro's were in a constant of rebellion against authority.

Second, we should note that the spiritual instructions and commands that Jesus gave apply to all people. The Beatitudes are color-blind. This includes the statement: “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God” (Matthew 5:9). Jesus—who is our coming King—left instructions with authority. Even the apostles recognized that salvation was available to all and that all held responsibilities for obedience (Acts 15).

Third, true freedom is only available through Jesus Christ. “I tell you the truth, everyone who sins is a slave of sin. A slave is not a permanent member of the family, but a son is part of the family forever. So if the Son sets you free, you are truly free” (John 8:34-36, New Living Translation).

If this is true, then why does UCG and Kubik place the emphasis upon submission to the law? 

In this time of upheaval, we should all be active and careful listeners, whatever our background. Decades worth of hidden hurt and fear now lie open to all. Healing must take place, but the task will be challenging.

Paul tells us to be imitators of God and live a life of love. In this time, that means we are to be intolerant of racial slurs. We understand and appreciate that all people will have the opportunity to achieve their incredible human potential, and we treat them like it. Where there is strife, we sow peace as peacemakers. Our thoughts, speech, and behavior should be free of coarse speech, including online comments. As Paul directs us: “Let there be no filthiness nor foolish talk nor crude joking, which are out of place, but instead let there be thanksgiving” (Ephesians 5:4, ESV).

 "Where there is strife, we sow peace as peacemakers."  What an absolute hypocritical joke for Kubik to say this!  Where was the peacemaking when his own church ruptured and 3/4's of it left to form COGWA?  Where has there ever been peacmaking making in the Church of God movement between the 500+ splinter groups out there now all proclaiming themselves the true modern-day representation of 1st-century Christianity?

In the immediate days ahead, what is our response? God wants to see “all the members care for each other. If one part suffers, all the parts suffer with it, and if one part is honored, all the parts are glad. All of you together are Christ’s body, and each of you is a part of it” (1 Corinthians 12:21-27, NLT).

What is our part in change? Consider this: are we praying that more should receive access to the precious truth we hold, and that more people from all walks of life will be called and join our fellowship? Are we conducting ourselves in such a fashion that people can openly see Jesus Christ in us? We are promised a better life, now and in the world to come. Can those outside catch a glimpse of the coming Kingdom of God in our lives today?

When has the leadership of the Church of God - ANY COG - ever conducted themselves in a fashion that humanity could see Jesus in them? They cannot even talk about the dude that much let alone exemplify the guy in their lives. 

Here’s our part: instead of engaging in contentious protest, “Do all that you can to live in peace with everyone” (Romans 12:18, NLT). Answer the call for change: “Don’t copy the behavior and customs of this world, but let God transform you into a new person by changing the way you think” (Romans 12:2, NLT).

And when our children tell their story...They'll tell the story of tonight...Raise a glass to freedom!

This video was posted on a FB page from a family who left a COG and how profound that decision was upon their children and the incredible future they now have before them. Their children will now have a story to tell about what it means to be free.

Raise a glass to freedom! What a glorious story the children of those who have left bondage will tell!

We may not yet have reached our glory

But I will gladly join the fight

And when our children tell their story

They'll tell the story of tonight

They'll tell the story of tonight

Tonight

Have you ever felt like nobody was there?

Have you ever felt forgotten in the middle of nowhere?

Have you ever felt like you could disappear?

Like you could fall, and no one would hear?

Well, let that lonely feeling wash away

All we see is light

'Cause maybe there's a reason to believe you'll be okay

For forever

'Cause when you don't feel strong enough to stand

You can reach, reach out your hand

And oh

Raise a glass to freedom

Something they can never take away

Oh

No matter what they tell you

Someone will come running

To take you home

Raise a glass to all of us

Tomorrow there'll…