Crackpot Prophet Says Dave Pack Is Making Predictions Above His Pay Grade

 

The other day we posted a story from Marc Cebrian about Dave Pack's latest epic failures. The Great Bwana to Africa and 100 Caucasians got his holistic knickers in a twist after reading the story here.

Marc reported:

 Part 445 – May 24, 2023

@ 1:15:23 I mean, if it’s not Pentecost, it’s gonna take a better person than I to ever be able to explain it. It’s just above my pay grade.

Prophecy Update – Friday, May 26, 2023

A final note came to be helpful. As you can imagine, with each passing day more is learned. I can scarcely tell you how much more we have learned in the 48 hours since the last part. In fact, there is powerful evidence the acceptable year actually ends on a Pentecost (so much more could be said here, but you actually know some of it). Pentecosts are never exactly one year apart, and God says the first period is a year. And realize that in no case is a year ever 390 days. I closed on Wednesday saying, “God either plans Pentecost or near it. But does the Bible permit near,”—then adding a few seconds later, “How long will I wait? Forever.” The case for a delay beyond Pentecost is there, but it cannot be long. I so wish we could know what God means in Hab. 2:3 regarding the moad referenced—“though it tarry, wait for it.” It is impossible for Pentecost itself to tarry. But waiting a period beyond it gives the verse some sense. Remember, we’re waiting for a “thief” event. One viable instance has us waiting exactly one more day, and another one two more days. Both cannot be right. To list more possible just near-term scenarios (there are plenty) when we don’t know which (if any) is right is a waste of time. If more should be said, I will. Otherwise, let’s wait it out!

In Christ’s service,

David C. Pack

Then the Great Bwana made this stupid comment: 

David Pack has never understood Habakkuk 2 and, since I consider him apostate, almost all matters related to predictions are "above" his "pay grade."

This has to be the stupidest thing Bob has written in a while, Well, a least in 24 hours. 

So Dave's predictions are above his pay grade and yet we are supposed to take all the could be's and possibly's from Bwana Bob as 100 accurate. Both of these men are lying apostates, hell-bent on seeing how many lives they can destroy in order to make themselves look good. Neither one speak for God and never have, nor will they ever do so.

Zerubabel Says "This Bud's For you!"

 

Remember this guy? He is Michael Noordhoek , aka Zerubabel. He is back again weighing in on the Bud Light controversy and other asinine topics. This is the same guy who claimed his stepdaughter was a prophetess and she was going to bear his manchild. One thing that is going for this is that his videos are WORSE than Bob Thiel's, though not by much.

For decades the Church of God has had all kinds of Elisha's, Elijah's, Joshua's, Jeremiah's, and any other Old Testament heroes that COG members like to latch onto. They all had a message that they thought was vital to the church and its wayward members. Almost all of these men are dead just like their OT namesakes. That still has not stopped modern-day fools like Almost-ordained Bob Thiel, Dave Pack, Gerald Flurry, and Ron Weinland. Bob Thiel was so inspired by this guy that he decided to start his own church after seeing Zerubbabel. If this guy can do it then anyone can!

Have you ever noticed that none of these guys ever latch onto Jesus or any new covenant personality? God forbid if they ever had to act like James, John, Peter, or any of the other apostles. After all, the apostles were vile Gracites, as all modern-day prophets and apostles are quick to let us know. They think what the church needs is religious zealots from Hebrew times preaching the law!

The person we need to thank for Zerubbabel is Ron Weinland. This idiot was also a member of Ron Weinland's cult. Zerubbabel now has to live here in the United States in Arizona after both Greece and Israel kicked him out of their countries. He, his wife, and his stepdaughter live in a shack in the desert where the kitchen, living room, and bedroom are all in one room.

This mentally ill man claims that Jesus is the first of the Two Witnesses and that he, Zerubbabel, is the Second Witnesses. Jesus is also the first of three prophecied "man-child's," with Zerubbabel being the second "man-child." The third is undetermined (but is probably Bob Thiel since he currently is the biggest man-child the church has ever seen). I digress, the third man-child was to be birthed by his stepdaughter.

If you remember, he proclaimed himself to be the new King of Israel and his stepdaughter a prophetess. He has also professed to see "the sign" of Revelation 12's virgin in the sky which "proves" his step-daughter is this prophetess...and that she is also to bear a son by HIM, the King of Israel. He believed he was SUPPOSED TO HAVE A CHILD WITH HIS STEPDAUGHTER...Who at that time was a minor...she is to have this "prophetic "third man-child".

For some reason with what you read above, and with Bob Thiel, Dave Pack, and Gerald Flurry in the mix, people still want to claim Armstrongism is a legitimate belief system! These spiritual degenerates continue to spring forth out of the dregs of the cesspool that the church has spiraled down to as they claim to speak for the church. Zerub doesn't. Dave Pack doesn't. Gerald Flurry doesn't and Bob Thiel most assuredly doesn't.

Australian Crackpot COG Prophet Says Nuclear War Will Happen This Year!

 

Most self-appointed Church of God prophets refuse to name dates for their prophecies and those that do, like Dave Pack, have been absolute failures. Most COG self-appointed prophets are like waffle-boy Bob Thiel who has so many maybe's, could be's, and possibly's that no one even cares what he says anymore. That brings us to Wade Cox, one of the weirdest self-appointed prophets ever. in COGdom. With a dubious military history shadowing him and a poor track record as a Worldwide Church of God member/minister, who like Bob Thiel set about setting himself up as a splinter cult leader because church leadership refused to listen to his craziness.  Like Bob Thiel, he claims most of his adherents live in Africa where he says half of the continent are members of his church. The rest of his members are a rag-tag group located in the United States and Australia with his most loyal sycophants living in Arkansas.

Cox is so far off the deep end that he claims that Islam and the Koran are filled with prophecies of the end times that are relevant to Christians.

This brings us to his Pentecost message to his faithful.

His Pentecost message has some real doozies in it.

We are now at the end of the Omer count and at the Feast of Weeks or Pentecost, This is our thirtieth Pentecost and we are now at the last phase of the Measuring of the Temple (No. 137). We are now about to see the nations dealt with and the sheep torn out of the hands of the shepherds. 

 

Last week we saw the sequence of Commentary on Lamentations (F025). This Pentecost we will go on with the Commentary on Jeremiah Summary and chart re LXX and MT (F024xiv) with the final work in the Last Days to restore the Laws of God in the millennial system under Messiah.

There is no way in hell that Cox and his little band of nutcases are going to restore the laws of God in some mickey mouse kingdom that is a figment of his own imagination. It isn't going to happen. I can say that with 100% assurance!

We are now seeing the truth coming out and the lies of the demonic systems being exposed worldwide, as part of the demonic attack on the Church of God in the Last Days. Satan is using his servants in the Khazarian pseudo Jewish system using the false Hillel Calendar system (Nos 195; 195C) as its calendar to draw persecution on the Laws of God to try and have the remnant destroyed. 

There is no demonic attack on the Church of God today. Anything that is currently happening is a result of the liars currently running COG's and the things they say. 

Cox claims all the persecution is a result of COG groups following the Hillel calendar regarding law-keeping. If he was actually a follower of Jesus he would have no need to worry about what calendar system anyone is using because it is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. Because they have whored themselves out to the law instead of being a Christ follower they will never have any understanding.

This persecution will also draw a distinction between the false Post Temple Hillel system and the original Temple Calendar used by Christ and the Church and all the Temple system under God's Calendar (No. 156). Unfortunately some will get sucked into the persecution of the pseudo Jews in the Sardis offshoots keeping Hillel. The first of the Sardis system to go will be its ministry in the COG (SD) and the offshoots of the RCG/WCG system. When the Witnesses arrive there will be none of the offshoots keeping Hillel left alive, who have not repented. The Holy Spirit is about to tear those groups apart and finally scatter them to the winds or to repentance. 

 

The Holy Spirit is bringing into CCG under the Temple Calendar key officers of these offshoots. This last week we formed a new regional system in the State of Victoria AU. Two officers were placed in that system responsible for Melbourne and Regional Victoria. Those interested in becoming part of the CCG system in Victoria contact us through the web site to the Secretary@ccg.org 

After Pentecost this year we are about to see the nations finally react to the harm and genocide inflicted upon us. The Empire of the Beast (No. 299A) will form later this year after the coming thermo-nuclear exchanges of WWIII which will allow the formation of the Beast Power. That will last for 42 months and there will be much violence [will] occur over this coming period up to the formation of the Beast system emerging from this conflict to Passover 2024. 

 

A nuclear weapon was destroyed in Ukraine over the taking of Bahkmut last week. A radioactive cloud is now reported drifting over the EU from Ukraine. 

 

Inter-racial and religious war will erupt in the EU this year and the Northern powers will be forced to enter the Middle East. Civil insurrection will erupt in the US and BC and destroy its Globalist and Marxist elites and its banking systems. Its Political traitors and WEF, Big Pharma, Globalist Media and Central banking systems will commence to be killed in the streets. The Beast system will still emerge and the Witnesses will arrive to deal with them (see No 141D). 

 

The Beast Power will not emerge from this mess of 2023/2024 without conflict. Nor will the cowards of the Sardis and Laodicean systems inherit the Kingdom of God. There is nowhere to hide in this emerging conflict. The US GOP will not stop it easily because of their corruption and cowardice over many years. So also has AU, UK, CA, and NZ been corrupted .All parties and politicians will be attacked. 

There is NOTHING that Wade Cox says will happen this year. Cox is exactly like Dave Pack and Bob Thiel. All are professional liars deliberately deceiving the few followers they have. God is no more part of their groups than the possibility of HWA being resurrected to restore the church for its final push (as some still believe).

Armstrongism gets crazier by the day! 

Sabbath and Assumptive Reasoning: The Hermeneutic of the Deceived

Sunday is commonly the target of Sabbatarian theology, used for the purpose of creating a classic straw-man argument. By disparaging Sundays, the Sabbath “wins by default.” But, it is an apples and oranges comparison. The Sabbath was instituted as a day of rest from labor, done on the previous six days a week. The first day of the week, now called “Sunday” was originally instituted, not as a day of rest, but solely as a day of corporate worship, prayer, and fellowship. It was not treated by the early church in any sacred manner. There are, in fact, no sacred days established in the New Covenant dispensation. That some churches, later in history, applied Sabbath-like attributes erroneously to Sunday does not in turn validate the Sabbath as a requirement in Christianity.

Rest is not worship. Worship is not rest.

Sabbatarian theology appears to be little more than a veiled attempt to disparage Sunday worship more-so than establishing Saturday as their Sabbath. The rules governing the Sabbath are often ignored in Sabbatarian organizations. The fact that the Sabbath was originally determined using an entirely different calendar schema is of little to no interest to them. Theirs is, in fact, a contrived sabbath that bears very little resemblance to the Sabbath of the Bible. More effort is expended knocking down their straw-man Sunday than is expended defending their own position regarding their Sabbath.

Compounding all this is the fact that we live on a round, globe shaped earth. When the Sabbath came about for Israel, half of the earth was not in that time frame of being the Sabbath. And, Scripture does not address the issue regarding the keeping of the Sabbath outside the confines of the nation of Israel.

Do you determine the Sabbath outside the confines of Israel going east or west, paying attention to sunsets?

At first, a Sabbatarian is confused by the very question. But, for every thousand miles (approximately) you go west from Israel, the Sabbath would begin an hour later. Traveling east, the Sabbath would begin an hour earlier. Take one person going west, and one going east, and have them meet on the other side of the world, and they are both keeping the Sabbath on a different day.

God gave prophesies in the Old Testament writings that He would do away with the Sabbath. God did not lie. It is no longer extant. It is no longer relevant. It, like so many other things in the old covenant, was a shadow of a greater, spiritual “reality.” There is a rest found in Christ that is permanent, and not temporary like the weekly Sabbath. There is God's Rest, which He entered into on that seventh day of Creation Week, that Scripture states is entered into through faith; something the Hebrews could not do, yet they did enter into the weekly Sabbath- rest that foreshadowed God's Rest, that they did not enter into due to their unbelief. (Heb. 4)

The Sabbath serves but one purpose to the advocates of the Sabbath. It is a means of recruiting people who are willing to compromise with Scripture, a little, even nearly imperceptibly to begin with, who will then in turn compromise more when introduced to tithing as a means of exploiting them into feeding wolves. It is a way to incrementally get people to compromise with Scripture through Assumptive Reasoning. This is the hermeneutic of the deceived. Once instilled with this spurious method of interpretation, it is hard to see it for what it is, and jettison it.

The most common argument (deception) put forth to convince people to keep the Sabbath, and in turn fund the wolves, is to convince the recruit that they are not free to sin, sin being defined as the transgression of the law, (read: the Ten Commandments to the exclusion of the rest of the law) citing the flawed translation found in the King James translation, which translation was lifted from the earlier Geneva Bible, whose translators borrowed it from the even earlier English translation, the Bishop's Bible. This was all in regards to a time when rules of translation were nearly non-existent. Sin could be the result of transgressing the law, for one under the law, but not always even for those Hebrews. Jesus points this out in His discourses in Scripture. Regardless, a Christian, who is not under the law, is also described and defined as being freed from the law, and dead to the law, as well as dead to sin and freed from sin. These concepts are poorly understood by many a Christian, and wolves know how to exploit people's ignorance.

God states in Scripture that He will (and did) take away the Sabbath.

I will also cause all her mirth to cease, her feast days, her new moons, and her sabbaths, and all her solemn feasts. – Hosea 2:11

The most common argument to circumvent what God prophesied is to claim God is saying “her” Sabbaths, and not “His” Sabbaths. God gave them “His” Sabbaths, along with these other things. They had no such other days. The day would come when all these things would cease. That day was the day that covenant legally ended upon the death Christ; God Incarnate.

The most effective deceptions are the ones that the adherents to them refuse to question. Those who have bought into the Sabbath, end up believing no other possibility exists regarding a belief system. It must be true. To them, it is impossible that it might not be true. That is the veil before the eyes Paul wrote about in II Corinthians chapter 3. If you believe in the Sabbath; that you have to keep the Sabbath, you will look at that, and not comprehend. It says those who have that veil before their eyes are those who are hung up on what Moses both wrote and taught; the law, including the Sabbath. Your gaze is on the wrong things. And you pay dearly for your “oversight.”

Sabbatarianism exists for one main, overarching reason. It exists as but another arrow in the quiver of the devil’s arsenal to wreck havoc on the true gospel so that people abandon and reject a faith-based Christianity.

If those advocating the Sabbath actually kept the Sabbath, they would be keeping the Sabbath of Scripture, in the manner prescribed in Scripture, using the lunar calendar of Scripture that resets the week every new moon.

Again, it isn’t really about keeping THE old covenant law and Sabbath. It is about convincing people to abandon a faith based Christianity. The serpent’s deception was to get Eve to not believe God, and belief is tied to faith.

Keeping a fake sabbath and a truncated law is just as effective in this scenario as trying to keep all the law and the real Sabbath of Scripture. Most people would figure out quickly enough that the “whole” law, with all the temple requirements, could never truly be kept today, hence the truncated law embodied in the Ten Commandments. It is a “dumbed-down” law that appears “do-able.”  A Critique of Which Day is the Christian Sabbath? by William Hohmann

The Real COG Prophet On 7 Questions Your Minister Cannot Answer

 

When it comes to the Churches of God and its prophets, they are a dime a dozen these days. Everyone wants to be one and everyone thinks they are the one true prophet sent by God. We have had them for over 80 years in our midst and even further back in the various COG movements we came from. Each and every one thinks their words are sure and firm yet here we are 80 some years on in the COG movement and none of them have ever been right, until this generation. We have Bob Thiel, Gerald Flurry, Dave Pack, Ron Weinland, and Alton Billingsley, just to name a few. These men all pale in comparison to the one true COG prophet sent to us in these end times, Tony Roach.

Here is a list of things he posted on Living Church of God's Facebook page recently:

7 QUESTIONS YOUR MINISTER CANNOT ANSWER

1. When is the day of the Lord?... Sept. 28, 2031

2. Where is the Kingdom of God?... On the sun...

3. What is the time, times and a half in Daniel?... From 1470 BC when Jesus introduced Himself as "I Am" till Sept 28, 2031 when the "Day of the Lord" begins... 3,500 years...

4. When is the Spring Harvest of Souls?... It past in 2020 on the Day of Pentecost when the world was shut down for the Coronavirus...

5. Who are the Two Witness'?... The House of Israel and The House of Judah...

6. When is the wedding between Jesus and the church?... It happened in 2020 after the Spring Harvest of Souls on the Day of Pentecost...

7. Who is the Shepard for God's hidden flock in this Laodicean era?... I AM...

... PROVE ALL THINGS!!!... 
Matthew 7:2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

Please for your sake DO NOT think of me... I am No One... I am just the dust from a dusty dirt road... If you do you will miss the message as Satan clouds your mind...
I am exactly what God calls me... And exactly as those that came before me...

1 Corinthians 1:26-29
For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, 

not many mighty, not many noble, are called:
27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
28 And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:
29 That no flesh should glory in his presence.

So you can see by my picture why No One believes me... I am NO One... I don't try to be someone I'm not... I don't try to impress anyone... I don't color nor curl my hair it just happened... Beauty is vain... I have neither... Beauty nor vanity... And for those that don't know... Long hair is not a sin... Samson gave his hair credit for his powers not God... That was the sin... If you want to judge me... Go for it ... I have no time to worry what man thinks of me... I'm here to please God... I have a job to do... Even tho I continually try to quit it... God brings me back...

God has always chose people just like me... Poor, weak, base, No One... So you will fall backwards be snared and taken... Please be strong.... Prove ALL things... Open your eyes, your heart and your ears... And see the TRUTH... And Hold Fast... There is no room for jealousy... Jealousy burns within like coals of fire... (Song of Songs 8:6)... I love you all... Ye are my brothers and sisters... 

Ephesians 6:10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

Psalms 91:2 I will say of the LORD, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust.
3 Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, and from the noisome pestilence.
4 He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: 

his truth shall be thy shield and buckler.
5 Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day;
6 Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday.
7 A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; 

but it shall not come nigh thee.
8 Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked.

Ezekiel was written 600-500BC... Although it was meant for our days... The Laodicean era... "The time of the heathen"... The "Time of Jacob's trouble"... 

The "Hour of Temptation"... The "Tribulations"... 

Ezekiel 2:5 And they, whether they will hear, or whether they will forbear, (for they are a rebellious house,) yet shall know that there hath been a prophet among them.

John 13:20
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that receiveth whomsoever I send receiveth me; and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me. .
When God told me to seek not a prophet it is within... He also said.... 

I will return them all back to you...
Be strong... Be faithful... Be perfect....
With Love Always Tony....
PROVE ALL THING!!!!
PROVE ME!!!!