Sunday, June 3, 2012

Apostle Malm: It is Disrespectful For Women To Ask Questions In Church



Women in the Church of Malm are currently being relegated to subservient levels of servitude.  The husband is lord and master of the manor and women are to follow the mans instructions without question.

Apostle Malm also says that women are never to ask questions in church.  It is disrespectful of the lord masters authority.

After spending over 40 years in the screwed up cult of Armstrongism where questioning was never allowed, I have made it a policy of telling those that I have in newcomers class at the church I am at now, that they are free to question.  Just because the preacher says something does not mean they have to agree with it.  He knows I do it too.  I tell them to question the doctrines they grew up with and teaching of churches they have come from. I let them know it is OK to question the Bible and not to take it as 100% literal.  The Bible is filled with stories, metaphors, allegories and myths.  It doesn't mean they don't have truth and meaning, but it also does not mean that it all had to literally happen. I also tell them that when they walk through the door of the church they do not need to check their brain.

The idea that women cannot speak in a church setting, ask questions, talk about God, question God, doctrine, and belief in a church setting  is appalling and ignorant.  What does Apostle Malm think the women in the New Testament era did?  They spoke out, they raised money, they paid for the spread of the gospel and even spread it themselves all without a man at their side.  It wasn't a group of grumpy Malmite men that went to the tomb of Jesus, it was women.  Women were the first to proclaim Jesus was no longer in the tomb.

Anyway, here is the apostle's directive for subservient Malmite women:

An acolyte asks:

Can a women pray and prophesy in church if she is wearing a head covering?

The apostle responds:

A woman is not to speak [as a teacher of the men, or in prayer when a man is present] in the assembly, due to the fact that doing so would be disrespectful of the man as the head of the woman. She is not even to ask a question without going to her husband first.
This is a matter of example and public discretion.

In the privacy of their own home, a woman should definitely discuss the scriptures with her parents and mate.

She may pray privately at any time, but should not lead in prayer, if her father or husband is present; the men need to learn to take the lead.
Husbands should always listen to their wives and take their advice very seriously making their wives their CHIEF advisor and confidant at all times.

More will be coming as I get into 2 Cor, Tim, Titus Peter ect. James

Then the apostle wants to reinforce his demand that subservient Malmite women wear hats in church.

An acolyte asks:

Are you saying women need to cover their heads in church? Would that be a hat, a veil, a handkerchief or what? Is not her husband her covering?
So, if a women wears a hat can she pray and prophesy in public?
As far as men having their heads covered, I understood this was a cultural situation where taking off their hats was a sign of respect.

The apostle responds
Anything modest; some hats are designed to be great attention grabbers and are anything but modest. Just use some judgment. James
and with this:

Another acolyte asks:
The covering that Paul is talking about, for a woman, is her hair not a hat.

The apostle responds:

That is just another HWA erroneous tradition: I ask you why is she to be shorn if she refuses to wear her hair then? 

The HWA hair thing makes no sense either in the language of 1 Cor or in the context; which is that BOTH male and female Jews covered their heads with a prayer shawl.

Paul was simply explaining that men need not do so, but women should continue to do so. James
 Great will be the day when these jackasses can no longer preach their message of legalistic bullshit.

How A Typical Church of God Leader Operates: "Jesus is coming soon, so let's build a college, an auditorium and a really nice house."




This is from a comment on another thread on how COG apostles and prophets operate.  I think it is great and an accurate description of the mindset of Pack, Weinland, Flurry, Meredith and a host of the other COGlet leaders.

Jesus is coming soon, so let's build a college, an auditorium and a really nice house.

Sadly and of course, we don't use crosses in the LCG. They are pagan and Jesus died on a stick. However, Mayan prophecies point to Jesus second coming along with the Bible.

I and my wife are the two witnesses and our job is over.

The tribulation is yet to come and happened over the past three and a half years.

Jesus did come and is still coming over the next year. (What, he can't kick that white horse harder?)

But I am still a prophet and an Apostle even though nothing I say works out and I sent myself.

I am an apostle even though I am the only one that says that. No other christian church, minister or member ever heard of me and no one but me calls me an apostle.

Bringing culture at a high price to the Okies is preaching the gospel and it's ok to use the member's money for such Gospelspreading.

Men can't have long hair but we can't explain why not.

Women must cover their heads but after looking at the universe through the eyes of the Hubble telescope, we can't figure out why it is important.

A man who has appointed himself something or other , who is near blind, high sugar, no income and kinda cranky, a bringer of bad news and dictatorial is going on a baptising tour bringing good news

Whew...what a bunch.

Is Prophet Thiel Cavorting With The Mother of Harlots?



Prophet Thiel and apostle Malm have been having a snit-fest lately picking apart each others prophecy mutterings.

One of apostle Malm's acolytes writes:


James, By now you have probably already seen or heard about Bob Thiel’s recent comments refuting your posts related to his mixing pagan prophetic writings with biblical interpretations. Since reading his post I am aghast at his own admissions on it. It seems as if he has opened up himself to the flattery’s of Satan convincing himself that he is capable of playing with lies and deceit. Becoming a presenter of mixed good and evil, to dabble with the mother of harlots and her false teachers. Then to have the audacity to accuse you of miss-leading others…….that is just ridiculous. Since when does mixing truth with error make something right…… I am at a loss to understand why Meredith has allowed Bob Thiel to propagate the material he presents. These are perilous times for the brethren…..

The apostle responds with a good comment about Prophet Thiel being the unofficial official mouthpiece of the Living Church of God. The Prophet says things that Meredith doesn't want to be caught saying.  Thiel has turned himself into the official face of the Living Church of God.  A regular Jay Carney
Obviously there is no way that anyone else in LCG would be allowed to  say what Bob says.  Bob seems to be the official “unofficial” mouthpiece of LCG [the "unofficial" being simply a false cloak to say things they do not want to say "Officially"]  and he would never say anything that Rod does not agree with.  I expect that it was Bob who has deceived Rod and the other LCG leadership into agreeing with this wickedness that will snare them in the tribulation.