Monday, February 27, 2012

Dave Pack: Violated Confidentiality of Those He Counseled



The internet has turned out to be an unforgiving tool at exposing the lies and hypocrisy of various Church of God ministers in charge of several of the splinter cults.  So when Dale Schurter and Larry McElroy get on and post absurd letters about the glorious  mind boggling work being done in Wadsworth you need to look beyond the propaganda and lies to see the depth of depravity at work.


The issue related below about Pack breaching confidentiality of counselees under his care is not unique to him alone.  This has been a problem in the COG for decades.  It was common knowledge that ministers in Pasadena would sit around and talk about peoples problems and life issues while laughing about them with others.  When the Pasadena Church Offices were moved to the first floor of the Hall of Ad between Telecom and the Security Office, you could regularly hear people there talking about members problems and laughing about them.  The Security Office personnel were appalled at some of the things they heard.

Here is a letter from 1999 that was sent to Dave Pack from his office manager.


October 11, 1999

Mr. Pack:

I am immediately resigning from my position with the Restored Church of God.  This action became necessary due to a crisis of conscience precipitated by your actions.

Since just after the Feast, I began to seriously consider resigning, but not until after the book and the quarterly receipts were completed.  However, my husband advised me to speed up the timetable as a result of a recent conversation he had with you, the substance of which he could not inform me of, according to your request.

The leadership of a church must conduct itself in a manner that is consistent with the tenets of the Church, and, since I began working at Restored, I have observed you violating basic tenets of our Church, including the following:

· Slandering church members
· Attempting to cause division within a family by going to a wife and insulting her husband, and then going to the husband and insulting his wife
· Reneging on commitments, such as your statement that you would not look at tithe records, then doing so with impunity.  Also, entering into agreements with people, then unilaterally changing the terms knowing that everything was verbal and that they would have no recourse
· Having little regard for employees’ commitments to their families by continually mismanaging your schedule and then requiring employees to work overtime to make up for it, demanding they change their schedules to solve a “crisis” of your making
· Berating employees for making purchases or decisions after they had cleared them with you in the presence of others
· Violating the confidentiality of those who have counseled with you about their problems by discussing them in the presence of others
· Haranguing and casting dispersions at those who attempt to discuss the above problems with you. 

I cannot work for, or be associated with, a church where these kinds of actions have become commonplace at the top level.  You have clearly placed yourself above God’s law and have become unapproachable by those who would like to discuss problems in the Church.

You will find RCG’s checkbook in my office.  I wrote payroll checks and expense checks to bring us current to my last day of work.  You will find everything to be receipted and above-board.

I bear you no ill will, but sincerely hope that you will come to see the gravity of these charges and correct your conduct before many of the wonderful people in Restored are injured, as so many others have been.

Please do not attempt to call me or come to my home to discuss these charges.  Any contact should be by e-mail or letter.

Sincerely,
Joan Thompson
joant@

9 comments:

Anonymous said...

BINGO!

M.T.HIPPA

Anonymous said...

And we, in turn, feel perfectly free to violate his confidentiality.

Anonymous said...

Perhaps someone who knows him better can confirm (or, though unlikely, deny) my view of Davey Pack as being a narcissistic wimpy coward bully.

Mish-Mash said...

I hear he likes to wear tight shorts to church sporting events.
(read through some of the accusations on old NEO for this.)

You ever think he is building a world headquarters because he is overcompensating for something...

"The reasons for major expansion—then and now!—can be summed up in two words: HUGE GROWTH!"

Anonymous said...

While it is easy to generalize about mental health issues, we do have to be careful about labels. It does take a proper diagnosis by the qualified to say that someone is a certain way. And then it is between that person and the professional.

Of course I know few who would suspect their own mannerisms as being somewhat supsect or common amongst those with issues or would ever seek help.

I am convinced the prophets Major and Minor had mental health issues that seemed attractive for prophets. Would it not be a hoot if all of Christianity was based on mental illnesses unrecognized in the main players? Wow...what a bamboozle that would prove to be.

M.T.Diagnosis

Anonymous said...

Yes, of course: We must insure and insist that only fully qualified people with certification and professional skills establish a diagnosis.

The same way that Armstrongists insist that only fully qualified people with certification and professional skills establish a ministry.

Anonymous said...

Let me add dimension to the above comment.

As The Supreme Cult Blog for further issues of competency and how Armstrongism is a major fail. It also has reference online to "When Prophecy Fails" in a recent posting if you are interested.

And if there is any one indication of incompetence of a ministry, it is certainly failed prophecy.

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Byker Bob said...

Word association with this post brings to mind one word: "typical". This is learned behavior, historically practiced in WCG. It's yet another way in which Armstrongism departs from the ethics practiced in mainstream Christianity.

"Love covers all things...."

BB