Liquidate your assets now and send it to Dave Pack,
before the Germans arrive and take it all!
Every once in a while Prophet Thiel has moments of clarity and can see through a lot of the COG crappola. He has posted on his blog some comments about Dave Pack and a sermon Dave gave on November 3, 2007 where he instructs members to send in all the money they can to support his work.
Thiel claims to have listened to the entire sermon and wrote down several key points when Dave was demanding money from his small group of members. He commands people to send in half of their net worth. He also encourages women to take their rightful portion (1/2) and send that in. But gives a stern warning to men who have unconverted wives, that they are not to let their wives have a voice in the matter.
Thiel writes:
(I tried to type verbatim and the following is fairly close) from what purports to be a 11/03/07 sermon by David C. Pack to his followers in the Restored Church of God titled Clarion Call -- The Time is NOW!:
"First Timothy 6 verse 17...'Charge them that are rich in this world'...If you were born in the United States, Britain, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand, then you're rich"
"If you hold those riches, I'm telling you, you trust in them"
"Go get a big chunk out of your home. And put your money where your mouth is and send it here. And I'm not talking about one, two, three thousand either. How about ten, twenty, thirty, fifty, or one hundred thousand dollars? Go do it" This is the Pack Prosperity Gospel....the more money you give to your Apostle the more you will be blessed. Not ion this lifetime though. You will most likely end up in bankruptcy court when you find yourself unable to pay your mortgage instead of sitting in a cold damp gave in the middle or Jordan.
"Wives, you can be independent in this. You have 1/2 the worth of whatever you have in your house. I'm officially telling you this...Wives, legally you have the 1/2 the funds. What are you going to do about it?...Husbands...'well, my wife is not in the church'...tell her...'you don't have a voice woman' " The Plain Truth on how to have a Happy Marriage......." That's when she should slap her husband across the face and tell him to try it and see what happens!"Go get those assets and get them here""Don't sit on vast resources that we can use now"
"We do not have the funds...plans...bookstores...We need to redesign our website...We need many hundreds of thousands of dollars to arrive at God's headquarters soon...the timing is now"
"This is different...ask Him for the faith to liquidate certain assets and give it to the work" Brethren, lets liquidate those stocks, 401K's, 403B's,mutual funds and all other investments. You no longer need it, so give it all to me!"I'll say it again, we are talking about liquidating existing assets...it all belongs to God and the brethren" Actually what Pack is saying is that it all belongs to HIM and the brethren will never see a dime of it.
"We have a lot of plans so big going on in this office it would cause just this room to to rock and gyrate if you knew what was going on. We just need a lot of money and we need it post haste...I would give more if I had it"
"Herbert Armstrong wrote an article...'Prepare to greatly reduce your standard of living'...What he wrote by far, is more for us now than it was then...its all going to be taken away from us anyway brethren" You brethren need to reduce your income, but now. As your Apostle I deserve the best! I need a new mini-me Auditorium and a new multi-million dollar HQ complex in order to make myself look legitimate. Everyone knows I am nothing more than an idiot right now, but once my buildings are built I will FINALLY be important!
"Let us know how much you plan to send and when you plan to send it...You must be willing to communicate...If you do need to counsel, please do that...If you are not ready to distribute what you have...you don't believe the flow of prophecy"
"This is announcing the last blast, the clarion call as it were, to finish the work...Whether it is 4,5,7, 9 years to go, God knows...This is liquidating assets...I have the authority to tell you to do it...I have the moral and spiritual, and ecclesiastical authority to tell you to do what I have also done" Dave says the work is coming to an end yet in 2011 he is demanding millions to finance a new cult HQ and a pretend college. Notice how he declares he has the AUTHORITY and POWER to tell people what to do! How can people sit in his cult and put up with this bullshit?
"Get it now when it requires faith...when you are dead you don't need it...if you named us in your wills, it can take us months or years to get it" How dare you imbeciles put us in your will when you know you will not be dying for years and maybe decades from now! How selfish can you get!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"The wives in the faith will say give everything you can...We don't have the luxury of waiting years...today, leaving everything in your will simply doesn't work"
"Now you just have a second mortgage...and frankly we flee before most of it ever becomes due" That's right! Mortgage your home a second and third time, don't worry, you will not be here to pay it off. Stupid, stupid people!
"...some may think that they want to tap their 401k--maybe you want to let us know that...why would you want to tell us? We are starting to prepare a budget now, the needs are now...it would be nice to know now"
"Think big...Pull big triggers" If I were Davey I would be really careful about making such a statement! We have already seen this put into action in Living Church of God. Once RCG members wake up to the fact on how Davey has defrauded them, I can picture serious repercussions in the future.
"We live in the most materialistic age in the history of the world. People trust in physical things. They trust in bank accounts...If you have excess and don't need it, those verses mean you...That's the Laodicean attitude...Put your money where your mouth is...Empty your assets" Yes, give us all your money so we can build one of the most materialistic mini-me headquarters in the middle of Ohio. It is important that we have a physical building to make us look impressive to the world. Go bankrupt to help us!
11/13/11 a.m. RCG announced the following: World Headquarters Complex
Can there be a more deviant cult leader in Armstrong than Dave Pack right now? Even Flurry pales in comparison!
It is only going to be a matter of time till Davey and his lap poodles, Schurter, McElroy and Beher start slobbering their defense of the apostle. PERSECUTION!
12 comments:
There is a special place in hell for men like Pack, Armstrong, Flurry, and other men who abuse and put heavy burdens on those who follow them.
NO2HWA said, "How can people sit in his cult and put up with this bullshit?"
MY COMMENT - Because these people do not believe Jesus own words as recorded by Matthew, "Many shall come in my name and shall deceive many".
Richard
This is classic DCP. It is accurate as I also listened to the sermon which is now not available on his site.
I can't imagine his groupies having anything left to give for the world's most awesome HQ. Personally I don't think it will ever happen.
While it is fascinating to follow DCP and be amazed not at his Church but with him personally, I think something is seriously wrong in the balanced mind dept and will only get worse.
I'd feel for him if I didn't think he'd disfellowship me for it.
M.T.Savings
It's time for the wives to go to Dr. Phil AND Suze Orman (DENIED!).
Be afraid.
Be very afraid.
I accidentally deleted a comment above when I was reading comments on my phone. Please repost it. Apologies!!!!!!!
Even Flurry pales in comparison!
Do not be too quick to belittle that little runt Gerald Flurry and what he has done. Gerald Flurry did his own unfair share of evil to former WCG people.
Gerald Flurry defrauded many thousands of people out of many, many millions of dollars. Gerald Flurry broke up many marriages and families. Gerald Flurry wasted everyone's time and energy and money for many years. Gerald Flurry lied like Satan for Satan. Gerald Flurry has made God appear to be harsh by doing all Gerald's own evil in God's name.
Gerald Flurry has rightfully earned his place on the list of lying false prophets who came only to lie and kill and destroy. Let us not minimize his very serious and significant accomplishments.
"Dave Pack: If You Knew My Plans This Room Would Rock and Gyrate!"
Yes, IF people knew in advance all the things these self-appointed leaders would come up with, the room would rock and gyrate, chairs would get overturned, and people would get crushed, as everyone headed for the exits to escape.
A long time ago, I reached the point of realization to where I trust the Germans more than I do Armstrongite teachers. It's certainly a lot less dangerous spiritually, too!
BB
I really can't wait to hear him start trashing LCG. He still has family connections over there (McNairs). It would be great to sit back and watch the war of words. Its about time these guys get their hatred of each other out in the open for all to see. I could never understand how these supposed ministers of Christ have no love or spirit of cooperation. They all have to be big fish in a little pond. Like I said before, Armstrongism is a product and these guys are salesman. Whoever makes the product more exciting or titilating gets more buyers.
"Even Flurry pales in comparison!"
Yes, Pack certainly is like a considerably more desperate version of my dear old friend, Flurry. I really am a bit surprised at how far he goes here. It almost seems like a parody.
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