Friday, September 22, 2017

Are COG Members Being Kidnapped, Held Against Their Will, Mentally Tortured and Deprogrammed?



God's most favorite Chief Pharisee is pulling a "Bob Thiel" today by claiming Church of God members are being intensely persecuted, so much so that some are being kidnapped and are being put in deprogramming programs.

This is what the lying fool Pharisee James Malm posted today:
In our modern society Gods faithful are persecuted everywhere; from being rejected by others, all to often including friends and family, to often being denied employment, but the most vile evil is the hiring of so called counselors to brainwash and try to intimidate people out of their faith.  
Such people prey on people of faith by trying to brainwash them; often using lying threats, holding people against their will and subjecting them to mental torture and psychological tricks; subjecting them to this “therapy of coercion” to get people to give up their beliefs outside their will, for big money of course.  
Can this idiot truly be serious????   It is people of faith being brainwashed by the blatant legalistic LIES of Malm, Thiel, Pack, Flurry, Kubik and others.  These men have all left trails of destruction in their wake as they destroy the spiritual and mental health of tens thousands of members.  Demanding the keeping of New Moons and blowing trumpets is just the tip of the legalistic bullshit these morons force on members.  They cannot talk about Jesus but will sit on their self-righteous asses with telescopes straining to see the faintest crescent of the moon rising.

The lying Pharisee then goes on to claim this is happening to COG members:
Such brainwashing mind control techniques as deprivation, hypnosis, the technique of having several persons take turns bullying and intimidating a person while giving the victim no rest until they collapse, and threats of violence and severe intimidation are used. 
If any COG members are dealing with this now it should be Philadelphia Church of God or Restored Church of God members.  They NEED to be deprogrammed!

I can guarantee you that not one single COG member is being bullied to the point they are ready to collapse.

The lying Pharisee continues:
These wicked men often prey on the vulnerable; young, old, weak, emotional, ill or borderline converted, in order to claim successes so as to make more money.  
Don't forget how the lying Pharisee is also begging for more money from his few hundred followers so that he can be supported instead of getting off his ass and getting a real job.  God forbid!
They are in the business of making money and when one stands up to them they will most often back down; if they persist then seek a remedy, first on your knees before God and then at court.  
Brethren, this vicious kind of attack has been practiced on many people of many different faiths even in our “land of the free”, and when the tribulation comes this will be happening on a much wider scale as the legal protections evaporate.
There are certainly cult deprogramming groups out there that deal with Scientology and others trapped in abusive and spiritually degenerate cults. These people have rescued people from dangerous cults and help guide them back to reality.
The lying Pharisee has these words of advice:
The way to deal with such vile evil is to:
  1. Remember The Seven Pillars of Wisdom and ground yourself fully in every Word of God, so you can resist the attacks of the devil,
  1. Go immediately to God for deliverance,  
  1. Remember that God is vastly wiser and more powerful than these wicked men,
  1. If you receive invitations to counseling by people who are hostile to your faith, respond by saying that you have as much right to worship God according to your conscience as anyone else does, and reject their invitation clearly, unambiguously and firmly, 
  1. Then keep copies of the correspondence or make copies of emails and store them with your lawyer or in a similar safe place, 
  1. Inform them that you have made copies of their correspondence and that you will seek a court order of protection if they continue to bother you, and that you will file criminal charges if you are kidnapped or if any further impingement on your constitutional rights occurs.  How to Defeat Satan's Agents
Spiritually degenerate men like Almost Ordained and arrested Bob Thiel, Chief Pharisee James Malm and others will lie through their teeth in order to make themselves look like martyrs for the crap they preach.  The world is not torturing them or persecuting them for their beliefs.  All they want is more money from their gullible sheep to support them in their "ministries."




30 comments:

RSK said...

Professional "deprogrammers"? That's seriously old news, their heyday was in the 70s and 80s. They didnt fare well when charges were brought against them either.

James said...

Malm does not have authoritative knowledge on this subject. He is just a diabetic sitting in a one room apartment, eking out a living from naive people.

Unknown said...

Malm advises..."Then keep copies of the correspondence or make copies of emails and store them with your lawyer or in a similar safe place"

OK, well here is my official declaration, here publicly and filed on BANNED. If I , Connie Schmidt become a member of Malm's cult, then anyone may by any means possible, has permission to kidnap me, brainwash me, electro shock me, tie me up, detain me, or just plain slap the heck out of me until I "wise up" and quit my obsession with him and his group.

Furthermore, this applies to my joining of Pack, Flurry , Weinland etc as well.

Signed here and notarized Sept 22, 2017.

PS- Permission not granted to NCK though!

Anonymous said...

The Internet has "deprogrammed" more ACOG members than have all the human deprogrammers combined.

There are, however, emotional and social issues that can come to the surface when you leave any group into which you have invested your whole life. This can apply to a man who retires from IBM after working there for 40 years, and it can apply to an LCG/PCG/UCG member who has been part of an Armstrongist church for 50 years. For such people, psychological counseling can be of great benefit.

Even more importantly, there are progressional ex-cult counselors who specialize in working with children born into these cults. The psychology is very different in adults who reject "the world" and choose Armstrongism vs. children who are born into it and know nothing else.

That is, unless you have any credible evidence that Dave Pack, Rod McNair or Stephen Flurry are more competent counselors to whom we ought to listen.

Anonymous said...

Does that also apply to Princess Blueyez?

Anonymous said...

There is nothing morally wrong with kidnapping someone if that's what it takes to expose them to information that is being withheld from them. That's the only way those people can ever hear both sides and the make up their own mind. Not surprisingly, cult leaders don't like that. The current law is on the side of the cults. It really protects the "freedom of religion" of religious CORPORATIONS to brainwash, not the freedom of INDIVIDUALS from brainwashing.

Stephen Schley said...

I'm starting down the path of deprogrammingasap cuz I cannot listen to my Bible app or skill without several negitive triggers going off thx 2 wcg,gcg & LCG & my stepdad. May get a call 4 posting this but so be it. Im tired of panic attacks when I think of the Bible . I belive what I belive & ain't nothin or nobody gonna change that 😍 y'all have a good one & thanks 4 what y'all have posted in the recent past that exitsupportnetwork.net & the 1st season of Leia Reimi's show

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Byker Bob said...

Didn't we just see a post about Malm being upset that his own brainwashing technique is not effective in poaching tithepayers from the major ACOG splinters? One of the restored truths that was a lynchpin of the HWAcaca is that "the accuser is usually the doer". Well, that, and you should drink a lot of water.

BB

Anonymous said...

You are all mistaken. Devout Christians are often emotionally abused and mentally tortured by family members and relatives, people in their workplace, and even by some church members, including loser ministers. That you are all ignorant of this, and poke fun at it, says something about your spiritual condition.

RSK said...

I wondered how long it would be before someone pulled the "so persecuted" card. Sorry, unless you've spent time in a brazen bull, no sale.

XCOG and Proud! said...

Anon 7:20 Church of God members who treat family members. relatives, friends and business associates as human beings and not unwashed heathen pagans as so many COG leaders demand their members do, are NOT persecuted, abused or mentally tortured. Church members are not treated like dirt by other church members if they also act like decent human beings instead of the self-righteous pricks that make up so much of the upper echelons of the church. Church members who are part of Gerald Flurry or Dave Pack's cult deserve any mistreatment they receive. They have no scruples in teaching their members to be arrogant jerks so they need to feel the consequences of that decision.

As for our spiritual condition, it is just fine and nothing you need to worry about.

nck said...

Phew Connie,

Thats a relief.

I would have had a "Booth" prepared by my eight wives for that new neat christjun lady, unleavened and all.

Any other volunteers for washing my orange suit with the neat strappings?

Nck

Byker Bob said...

Look, here's the deal. I don't know what era of Armstrongism you are from, 7:20, but in the '50s, '60s, and '70s, we were programmed by the church to provoke all of those things that you mentioned. Most other Christians did not go out of their way to separate themselves from their "unconverted" friends, co-workers, and family, or to be so overt with every weird difference, wearing it all on their shirtsleeves. You did get one thing correct in that there was internal persecution from our own ministers. There was also gossip and ratting by fellow members. All in all, It is as if the church had decided to make Matt. 24:9 into our own self-fulfilling prophecy, deliberately so that the blessing of Matt. 5:11 could apply, validating our lives as Armstrongites.

Most of the negative attention that we attracted was not because we were such stellar examples of Christianity doing good works that benefitted all around us and impacting the surrounding culture in a Christ-like fashion. It was because we drew attention to ourselves by dramatizing every little way in which we were different, and in the process, demonstrated very poor people skills.

I hate to say it, but because they are still affected by this same learned behavior, James Malm, Bob Thiel, Dave Pack, Gerald Flurry, and Ron Weinland all deserve much worse persecution than they actually receive. We would most certainly be robbing them if we did not give them everything that they actively work to foment.

BB

Anonymous said...

"psychological counseling can be of great benefit"

They will mind-rape you all over again, and you will have to rob a bank to pay for their "services", then you'll need more "cousiling" when you are in prison to get you back to being a "functioning" member of "society" (or what used to be society before diversity and lies smashed it into a million pieces).

Anonymous said...

8.46 PM
King David acted 'like a decent human being,' yet consider his prayers in the book of Psalms. Many times he asked for deliverance from murderous people that did not wrong, and in fact helped. Abel acted 'like a decent human being' but was murdered by Cain.
These are universal reactions both outside and inside the XCOGs.

Anonymous said...

I wondered how long it would be before someone pulled the "so persecuted" card. Sorry, unless you've spent time in a brazen bull, no sale.

Which is why your people should stop whining.

Anonymous said...

You must be a simpleton, 12:25! Diversity is one of the chief joys of life. It keeps life interesting. As for the lies, anyone with basic discernment can detect them and wade around them.

Anonymous said...

Diversity is not a joy but a pain in the gut. Grow a brain. Interesting, yeah, reading about wars is interesting. I just don't want to be in one. But don't worry, more are coming because of diversity, and you deserve to be in the middle of it, along with the other simpletons.

RSK said...

Seen yours lately?

Anonymous said...

Furthermore, this applies to my joining of Pack, Flurry , Weinland etc as well.

Well, if you keep the Sabbath you are a member of a Jewish cult of some kind.

Anonymous said...

Oh, I understand it's a real trial for a racist, a bigot, a homophobe, etc. Why, you must lead a completely miserable existence!

Anonymous said...

Now that we have diversity there are separation movements in a lot of states. Goodbye America, your fate is sealed. You will need another "civil" war to stay together, just a bit longer.

Anonymous said...

Oh, I understand it's a real trial for a racist, a bigot, a homophobe, etc. Why, you must lead a completely miserable existence!

The real trials will begin when the civil wars and mass rapes begin and you and your kids and grand-kids will be in the middle of it. Congratulations for doing it to them.

Anonymous said...

Oh, I understand it's a real trial for a racist, a bigot, a homophobe, etc. Why, you must lead a completely miserable existence!

Actually I take great satisfaction in knowing that liberalism is self-destructing. Any people that does what America is doing will exterminate itself, and their suicidal ideologies will come to an end.

Anonymous said...

Oh, I understand it's a real trial for a racist, a bigot, a homophobe, etc. Why, you must lead a completely miserable existence!

You are not using a single one of those terms properly. Get a dictionary. But that's so typical of children and fools, they just call people names and condemn what they don't understand. It makes them feel morally superior.

RSK said...

Congratulations, all you have to do is set a date for us to keep track of (like Earthquake Henry did) so we can all be asking you later where these civil wars and mass rapes are.

Anonymous said...

Why, Mark Armstrong! I'm surprised at you! Why don't you sign your comments? Didn't you think we'd recognize all this crap as being the same as in your stupid newsletters?

Anonymous said...

What is nearly converted?

Unknown said...

Malm is speaking about me. I hired Steven Hassan to sit in on a Skype call with my mother Constance who I have been no contact with since she hooked up with him.

Unknown said...

This is Steven Hassan talking to some folks who used to be ministers in the World Wide Church of God--so "evil." https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Pvyzi43-W7M