It is such a relief to know that there is at least one COG movement that has no one in leadership positions that seek self-aggrandizement. They have the most humble men who serve with such humility that even Jesus is impressed...at least when they take the time to talk to him.
But of course, what Winnail is talking about below is actually aimed at the members to encourage them to not seek lofty positions, because we all know that not one single man in leadership positions in LCG have EVER sought self-aggrandizement. Nope! Never has the church seen such humble men than those in LCG. Woo Hoo!
What Motivates You? In our world today, many people are motivated by a personal quest for a position, power, prestige, pleasure or a paycheck—and failure to be acknowledged or acclaimed is hard for some to deal with. Sometimes this attitude even spills over into the Church and local congregations when individuals jostle for positions and seek to be noticed or be given positions and responsibilities. However, Jesus sternly admonished the religious leaders of His day against seeking prominent positions and relishing public recognition (Matthew 23:6–7). In place of these self-seeking motives, Jesus emphasized to His disciples the importance of genuine humble service, “whoever desires to become great among you, let him be your servant” (Matthew 20:26). The Apostles Paul and Peter also warned against seeking offices in the Church for personal aggrandizement, and instead, they urged Christians to be examples to others by serving with humility (1 Timothy 6:5; 1 Peter 5:2–6). As we strive to come out of this world, we need to understand that when we eliminate selfish motives and develop a genuine desire to serve others as Jesus Christ did, then God can use us to be more effective instruments in His hands (Philippians 2:3–12).
Have a profitable Sabbath,
Douglas S. Winnail
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I peed my pants laughing at this!
Christ did NOT condemn "self seeking." This is a outright lie. He said "Whoever desires to be great among you.." Matthew 23.6. He did not condemn the desire, only pointing out that the chief seat belongs to the chief giver, ie, that seat is not an entitlement but rather must be earned. The Pharisees, like all bullies, had a inordinate desire for power and superiority. Their main problem was that they did not earn/pay for it by serving others.
Power, recognition, status, prestige, superiority are NATURAL HUMAN DRIVES. Condemning these is pure rule rigging. Again it's the fox talking to the chickens, the wolf talking to the lambs. This is why Herb ranted against competition. He and his minions believe that all power, superiority, status, recognition, honor, belong to them by right, and NONE to the members. I use to get the same garbage from a former work boss. According to the parable of the talents, these values are determined by merit. Ahh, the "evils" of competition.
Say after me kiddies, I have a right to desire and strive for power, recognition, superiority, status, honor. I am proud of it, and won't be intimidated by Douglas S. Winnail and his likes.
Wonder what would happen if in conversation a member called him Doug?
I doubt that I really need to wonder.
Kevin McMillen
Doctor Winnail to you!!!! Always treat your humble servants with the respect they demand.
From an earlier post on this blog:
Would it be much harder for Dr. Doug Winnail to write a fresh 200 words appropriate to each week? Instead, he takes the time to go through an archive of old messages, then finds one he likes... but instead of honestly reusing it he changes a very few words around to make it harder for a searcher to find the old one and see that it was reused. That's not just laziness. It's active shirking of new thought. For reference, here's LCG's June 27, 2013 update, containing the same "Comments" from Winnail as he used in this week's January 24, 2019 update:
Compare the first two sentences from 2013 with the first two sentences from this week:
2013: In today’s world, many people are motivated by a personal quest for a position, power, prestige, pleasure and a paycheck—and a failure to be acknowledged or acclaimed is hard for some people to deal with. Sometimes this even spills over into the Church and local congregations when individuals jostle for positions and seek to be noticed or given positions and responsibilities.
2019: In our world today, many people are motivated by a personal quest for a position, power, prestige, pleasure or a paycheck—and failure to be acknowledged or acclaimed is hard for some to deal with. Sometimes this attitude even spills over into the Church and local congregations when individuals jostle for positions and seek to be noticed or be given positions and responsibilities.
My boldfacing calls attention to the trivial differences between the two items. It doesn't make sense to me that someone would reuse his old material yet make only such superficial changes. Re-using would make sense, and revising would make sense. Trivial rewording just looks sneaky and strange. Intellectually and pastorally, has Dr,. Winnail left his job?
Is this another "rerun" of something Doug has already brought up in the past at another time(s)?
Doug concludes saying this: "As we strive to come out of this world, we need to understand that when we eliminate selfish motives and develop a genuine desire to serve others as Jesus Christ did, then God can use us to be more effective instruments in His hands (Philippians 2:3–12Open in Logos Bible Software (if available))."
It is all about the self striving to somehow impress God enough so that God "can use us to be more effective instruments in His hands," but how effective, really, is Doug?
If that were not enough, we're told this:
"That no flesh should glory in his presence." 1 Corinthians 1:29
So, how, when did Doug strive and eliminate his selfish motives? How impressive is Doug? Are we to be like Doug? Is Doug the example to follow?
How did Doug change the imagination of his own heart and get around the following scriptures?
OT, Before the flood: "And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually." Gen 6:5
OT, After the flood: "And the LORD smelled a sweet savour; and the LORD said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man’s sake; for the imagination of man’s heart is evil from his youth..." Gen 8:21
NT: "Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be." Romans 8:7
NT: "Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me." Romans 7:20
NT: "Do ye think that the scripture saith in vain, The spirit that dwelleth in us lusteth to envy?" James 4:5
NT: "He that committeth sin is of the devil..." I John 3:8
For Doug, explain how one strives to eradicate that selfishness and yes, sin!
NT: "Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me." Romans 7:17
Doug can't just wave a magic wand, and say and think: "problem solved!"
Then Doug wants us to read Phil 2:3-12 as if any of us could really work out our own salvation, which Doug by his writings strives to make us think he, Doug, has already worked out his salvation. That is preaching Fear Religion to us, especially when Doug turns his blind eyes to verse 13!
And if Doug has not quite worked it out yet, then when will Doug do it? Doug thinks and wants us to work it out. First, give us the example, which Doug cannot do. Doug is not impressing God as much as he wants us to think.
We could ask: which "god" does Doug worship and have in mind?
So often, hireling, like Doug, love to quote verse 12, but most of the time they turn a blind eye to the very next verse, which says:
:13 "For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure."
Doug, who is really doing that work, that striving, that elimination, in your life? Or, are you just deceived? Ignorance is only an unawareness: we all have some degree of that!
Is it yourSELF working it out, or is it God? If it isn't God working in there, then who is?
Time will tell.
John
TLA, LOL
Control is always based on need. Stop needing recognition and acceptance by others, in or out of the church, and lot of problems disappear.
The love, recognition and acceptance of God will never be manifested to you through the vehicle of another human. To seek such, is to create an idol.
Bragging about humility is anything but humility.
In our world today, many people are motivated by a personal quest for a position, power, prestige, pleasure or a paycheck
He should know. Dr. Doug Winnail's quest for a paycheck, and his desire not to lose his position and power, caused him to remain silent and thus complicit in Rod Meredith's terrible treatment of Patrick and Elizabeth Scarborough. Don't be like Doug.
The MOST humble leaders? As believable as Roderick Meredith preaching on the need to be cooperative rather than competitive at headquarters in Pasadena. Or GTA preaching on marital fidelity or HWA on seeking the material things of this world or making a name for himself. Or, Monty Python's Mr. Creosote preaching on healthy dieting.
Poor Doug. I know him personally and it's pretty likely that this is actually a message to himself from his subconscious. He absolutely 100% knows how rotten LCG and the men that lead it are. He is fully aware of how egos and favoritism rule the day. He has spent years watching idly while rampant injustice occurs at the hands of the least humble ministers ever to walk the planet. HE is the one just sticking it out for a paycheck and a title. If he had the courage and faith required, he would have walked away a LONG time ago. But alas... his ego makes him stay.
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