It's another sunny day in California and the Grover Beach Prophet Extraordinaire is beating his chest with his flailing wrists proclaiming to us all how magnificent he and his little group is. Never in the history of the entire world has there been a Church of God that is as glorious as his.
Not since the original apostles walked the dusty Galaleeian hills has there been a church leader as our Great Bwana to Africa, the doubly-blessed, the self-appointed incarnation of Elijah and Elisha, the modern-day Joshua and Amos, the soon to be first Witless Witness who will be killed by the Great Beast of Europe Baron Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg in the streets of Jerusalem so we can all watch him be resurrected at the start of his armageddon.
Once he lets 2/3 rd's of humanity die, he will immediately begin working with his creature called "christ" to set up the proper church government to rule the remaining heathens of the world. Both his "christ" and Herbert Armstrong will be his right-hand men in this planning process, though they will have to defer their power to him because he is so magnificent.
But in the meantime, it is important for all true believers to understand which is the right Church of God to belong to and who that leader is.
Notice a way to tell which church is the correct one:
4 For the word of the Lord is right, And all His work is done in truth. (Psalms 33:4)Only a church that does God’s work in truth would possibly be the one that God endorses. Jesus said that knowing the truth sets one free (John 8:32).
While it is difficult to measure which church has the most truth, let me state that when it comes to church history and prophecy, that would have to be the Continuing Church of God in the 21st century. There are many links in the Statement of Beliefs of the Continuing Church of God. To see some more details on that consider Continuing History of the Church of God and The Laodicean Church Era (prophetic differences between CCOG and other COGs are summarized there). For longer versions and more details, there are numerous articles at the COGwriter.com and CCOG.org websites that go into more depth on matters of history, doctrine, and prophecy.
The smooth talk and lies just roll off the tongue of this self-appointed false prophet!
There is more truth about church history and prophecy at the COGwriter.com and CCOG websites than any other group that I am aware of.
How can you know if that is actually true?
Well, we would recommend that you be like the Bereans of old:
10 Then the brethren immediately sent Paul and Silas away by night to Berea. When they arrived, they went into the synagogue of the Jews. 11 These were more fair-minded than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness, and searched the Scriptures daily to find out whether these things were so. (Acts 17:10-11)
If you search the scriptures diligently you will find it IMPOSSIBLE to not follow Bwana Bob Thiel! Yeah right, Buckwheat! Tell us another tall tale. Also, do NOT spend your time trying to disprove him, it would be impossible to do.
The Bereans did not know whether or not the Apostle Paul was who he claimed to be, but after hearing him, they thought he could be a teacher from God. They did not spend their time trying to disprove him, but searched the scriptures daily to verify that he was teaching the truth. That is what we in the the Continuing Church of God suggest you do today.
Did you know that one of the reasons Bwana Bob and his little band of Merry Men are so significant is that no one in the history of the church had real books with pages you can turn, such as his, and computers to search for information on?
Of course, if you are willing to be like the Bereans of old, it will take more than five seconds to check if something is true. Particularly since the scriptures in the Bereans’ day were written on scrolls that had to be unrolled. You could not flip to a page in a book or do an electronic search in those days.
Or, watch the most amazing animated gospel messages that the world has ever seen!
Anyway, with God’s help you can change as the Apostle Paul taught:
13 I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. (Philippians 4:13)
How?
The New Testament teaches:
6 … “God resists the proud,But gives grace to the humble.”7 Therefore submit to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you. 8 Draw near to God and He will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your hearts, you double-minded. 9 Lament and mourn and weep! Let your laughter be turned to mourning and your joy to gloom. 10 Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and He will lift you up. (James 4:6-10)
Do not let pride get in the way. Do not be double-minded–do the right thing.
Proverbs teaches:
5 Trust in the Lord with all your heart,And lean not on your own understanding;6 In all your ways acknowledge Him,And He shall direct your paths.7 Do not be wise in your own eyes;Fear the Lord and depart from evil.8 It will be health to your flesh,And strength to your bones. (Proverbs 3:5-8)
You might not think you have any evil to depart from, but if according to the word of God, you are not a real Christian or a Laodicean one (Revelation 3:14-19), you do.
You are not a real Christian if you follow Bwana Bob and are a member of the improperly named "continuing church of god". It is impossible to be one. To remain in his group is to be just as spiritually sick as those who are in the Restored Church of God and the Philadephia Church of God. God desires his followers to be free, not bound up in some legalist claptrap personality cult of Armstrongism.
24 comments:
"They did not spend their time trying to disprove him, but searched the scriptures daily to verify that he was teaching the truth. That is what we in the the Continuing Church of God suggest you do today."
So the CCOG suggested method of exegesis is to read the passages that appear to support what Bob teaches and ignore the scriptures that appear to refute what he teaches.
Wow, I'm surprised no one ever tried that before!
Bob is following the Herb playbook of 'don't believe me, check with your bible like the Bereans.' But once a person joins their group, it switches to 'blindly believe us and forget what the bible says.'
Meanwhile.....in Grover Beach people have being seen wearing LGB t-shirts.
Lets Go Bob.
And you all thought it was Lets Go ..................................lol.
Like Dave Pack, Bob's incredible knowledge of prophecy will fail due to unforeseen circumstances.
Is this the place where we can give STAR RATINGS for Thiel ala Amazon or Yelp?
I give ZERO STARS, and since he is the "Continuing Church of God", I would like a refund of all the money I gave to WCG as well, as he inherits their legal liability.
Like Dave Pack, Bob's incredible knowledge of prophecy will fail due to unforeseen circumstances.
Not likely. Remember how back in 2016 Bob published a book explaining the prophetic significance of Hillary Clinton?
He expects you to forget about that. He didn't actually make any prophecies, but he associated her with various Bible prophecies in a way that, if she had been elected, Bob could brag about his prophetic accuracy.
Dave makes specific predictions that fail. Bob issues possiblys, not prophecies.
From Bob's website - written 5/20/2008:
"...it is certainly possible that the Great Tribulation will begin within the next 8 years (before the end of the next two USA presidential terms).
"While I believe that both Barack Obama and John McCain (the Republican presumptive nominee) are well intentioned, I do not believe either has a real clue on how to properly change the direction of the United States. And I believe that without massive repentance, the destruction of the United States will likely occur next decade."
Well, that decade came and went. So much for the prophet. Perhaps he is more like Zedekiah son of Kenaanah. In any event, expect massive squirming when he's called on it.
https://www.cogwriter.com/news/prophecy/rc-meredith-and-barack-obama-campaign-comments/
Have you ever noticed that Thiel rarely, if ever, talks about his parents and upbringing? This article by Thiel first I have seen him mention his parents (indirectly) is that he grew up in a hunting household and had to prep the meat, much to his apparent distatste. His delicateness was already evident as a child.
Why does Bob hide his birth family?
Unless Bob's story glorifes himself it is not relvant. Nothing can be said that will tarnish his halo.
the prophetic significance of Hillary Clinton?
Yes, as Bob was kept out of the prophetic loop on who would win the election, he had to write forecasts for both major candidates. As a British friend would say, He bet a bob (shilling) each way on a two-horse race.
"They did not spend their time trying to disprove him, but searched the scriptures daily to verify that he was teaching the truth."
arent those two descriptions of the same thing?
arent those two descriptions of the same thing?
Hmmm, not trying to find fallacies in his teaching, but quote-mining to find suitable proof-texts. I suppose it's a matter of attitude - like "How the teachings of xyzCOG compared to those of the CCOG".
In either interpretation of the sentence, perhaps it depends on what you do about scriptures that contradict the teachings - dismiss the teaching, or dismiss or explain away the verses?
How many times does Bob use his convoluted logic to explain his cafeteria style choice of which teachings he accepts and which he dismisses? Is he trying to disprove them (explain them away) or verify them (to his satisfaction)? Hmmmm, interesting indeed!
As a Catholic false prophet, Bobby will not ever be able to comprehend the cold hard facts on the ground. The “beast” is not a human man but a system and it exists today. The G7/ Club of Rome are the beast with seven heads and ten horns. The Club of Rome has had the planet divided into ten zones since WWII. The beast will be led by the King of the North, most likely Trump after he is re elected in 2024. The USA/NATO military is the fighting force of the King of the North, and will face off against Russia/China (kings from the East) at Armageddon. You can watch the set up daily on the news.
Anon 11:02
No mention here of your ‘king of the south’ or of Rosh/ Meshech.
Trump, the king of the north? You must be a Democrat, lol.
Is this David Park?
The proclivity of religion to drive man mad is all to much on display in these here pages,lol.
I could do with a strong drink now. One is reminded of God’s comment to Jonah, should I not have compassion on this great city in whom are many who do not know their right hand from their left. That sums up so much prophetic speculation.
AnonymousNovember 4, 2021 at 7:39 PM
Anon 11:02
No mention here of your ‘king of the south’ or of Rosh/ Meshech.
Trump, the king of the north? You must be a Democrat, lol.
Is this David Park?
The proclivity of religion to drive man mad is all to much on display in these here pages,lol.
That’s a lot of “lol’s” you got there….very masculine.
AnonymousNovember 4, 2021 at 7:39 PM
Anon 11:02
No mention here of your ‘king of the south’
Iran is the King of the South and is about to be liquidated per Dan 11:40-45. Maybe you should try reading it sometime.
Russia is part of the King from the East, along with China plus their allies.
It’s going exactly by the book.
Prophecy speculation abounds within the cog Armstrong movement. Most of it based on, well, speculation and incredibly poor scholarship and understanding of scripture and the language of the Hebrew and Greek writers.
Like most of the comments above no facts are presented, just the ramblings of indoctrinated minds from the Armstrong movement that is divided into hundreds & hundreds of opposing sects, at lots with each other in doctrine and in prophetic speculation.
If one needs an example of confusion one does not have to look far within this movement.
It is simply a reflection of the human condition where division is the norm and tribalism is at the forefront.
Like most of the comments above no facts are presented, just the ramblings of indoctrinated minds from the Armstrong movement that is divided into hundreds & hundreds of opposing sects, at lots with each other in doctrine and in prophetic speculation.
I’m not in the Armstrong bowel movement.
I could list 10,000 facts here but it would do no good. What I said here about the King of the North, South, and East I’ve been saying correctly for the last 17 years, including live TV and radio. I can list you source after source but it would be a waste of my time. If you are not willing to believe scripture and believe your own eyes by watching current world events, I cannot help you.
2:27 "What I said here about the King of the North, South, and East I’ve been saying correctly for the last 17 years, including live TV and radio. I can list you source after source but it would be a waste of my time. If you are not willing to believe scripture and believe your own eyes by watching current world events, I cannot help you."
That's hilarious. You haven't preached any truth for the last 17 years. None whatsoever! As for who the Ling of the South, North, East, or West is not irrelevant to anyone who follows Christ. Only those following the blind men of Armstrongism need to have fools interpret prophecy for them. COG preachers are useless In the grand scheme of things and do not contribute to anyone's salvation path.
Anon 2:27 PM
'I could list 10000 facts here.....I've been saying correctly for the last 17 years'.
Ok then put your name out there on this blog if you are CORRECT, and lets see the reality of your claims.If they are bulletproof you have nothing to fear.
There are thousands and thousands out there making claims that they are 'correct' and have the 'correct understanding' of prophecy including 'Dr' Bob Thiel.
What makes you different from all the others?
That's hilarious. You haven't preached any truth for the last 17 years. None whatsoever! As for who the Ling of the South, North, East, or West is not irrelevant to anyone who follows Christ. Only those following the blind men of Armstrongism need to have fools interpret prophecy for them. COG preachers are useless In the grand scheme of things and do not contribute to anyone's salvation path.
What part about me not being in “Armstrongism” are you having difficulty with??? You seem like someone who is blinded by dogma and your own agenda. As far as the last 17 years go, you are right, I don’t “preach” as I am not a preacher. Some people such as yourself have difficulty understanding current factual events and how they relate to scripture….like I said, I cannot help you.
AnonymousNovember 5, 2021 at 5:40 PM
Anon 2:27 PM
'I could list 10000 facts here.....I've been saying correctly for the last 17 years'.
Ok then put your name out there on this blog if you are CORRECT, and lets see the reality of your claims.If they are bulletproof you have nothing to fear.
There are thousands and thousands out there making claims that they are 'correct' and have the 'correct understanding' of prophecy including 'Dr' Bob Thiel.
What makes you different from all the others?
No thanks. I’ve had my name and website on here years ago and it just draws out the loonies who post here. I’ve battled Theil decades ago. What a waste of time.
You ask what makes me different than all the others…what makes me different is no one else is saying what I am and never have. My track record is proven correct as time goes on. Five years ago no one was identifying the coming conflict between NATO and Russia/China. Now it’s discussed everywhere. It’s up to you to decide what you will believe…as for me and mine, we will follow the Lord and scripture.
Good luck
Hilarious! You are no more correct than Bob Thiel or Dave Pack is. Nice try though. We can't help you with that. Good luck.
AnonymousNovember 5, 2021 at 6:23 PM
Hilarious! You are no more correct than Bob Thiel or Dave Pack is. Nice try though. We can't help you with that. Good luck.
You obviously know a lot more about Theil and Pack than I do. From reading Banned, I’ve never heard anything from Theil or Pack relate to anything I teach. I confronted Pack face to face years ago about his false teachings on Passover, so I have nothing in common with that fraud. Theil is a closet Catholic and reject from the LCG. I have nothing to do with any ACOg and reject HWA.
How correct I am isn’t based upon your opinions. Neglect scripture and the Holy Spirit to your own peril. People like you here is why I won’t share my personal data…don’t need the uncircumcised Philistines hassling me.
Good luck
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