Monday, January 16, 2023

Dave Pack: Winter Unbelievers

 



Winter Unbelievers

 

In an utterly faithless act, The Restored Church of God held its annual Winter Social this past weekend. David C. Pack blessed the attendants with his supreme biblical understanding and impeccable oratory skills.

 

Members quickly shook off the Tevet 21/January 14 Day of the Lord debacle to enjoy chili and PingPong. Nothing warms the bones quite like robust biblical trickery from a prophetic sorcerer.

 

For a quick recap of “The Greatest Unending Story! (Part 414)” on January 14, 2023, the two new goalposts are:

  

The Day of the Lord begins March 22 at 7:40 pm

Elijah rises before February 10

 

Anticipate these to move the closer we approach. That is just standard procedure.

 

This is the current plan of God, according to Dave. Interruptions excluded.

 

Part 414 – January 14, 2023

@ 52:09 So, we know four things. You know, we can say, "So far, so good." We know that He [Jesus Christ] comes in winter soon after the Mystery of God ends after New Year's halfway, midst roughly, halfway, whatever it is, halfway between two kinds of years on a Sabbath.

 

Prepared statements are never prepared enough.

 

 

What could make a Winter Social Weekend more complete than the topic of smiting?

 

We can all be grateful that David C. Pack does not decide who lives or who is thrown into the Lake of Fire. He may not be the one who gets to pull the lever, but he sure spends time talking about it.

 

@ 23:13 It’s leaders that cause people to err. So, the ministers of this world are gone forever in the Day of the Lord. We maybe never fully understood that.

 

@ 23:36 …and then they’re snuffed out in a fire forever along with another group called “the fearful, the unbelieving, and the abominable.”…Who are they? They’re not the ministers.

 

@ 24:07 Who are those? Brethren, they are obviously the saints.

 

The not-so-subliminal reminder is that if you leave RCG, you are "fearful or unbelieving or abominable," and it is the Lake of Fire for you.

 

@ 24:16 What happens in the Day of the Lord when the saints are judged? Some of ‘em say, “I was afraid. I buried my talent." They were fearful. They shoulda feared God; they feared men. They were unbelieving. Remember the appointment that a lot of saints get? They're called unbelieving hypocrites. So, who are the unbelievers? They’re the saints, also. They're fearful unbelievers. You know what abominable means? It's mistranslated. It should be "detestable idolaters." The saints, literally, fall into idolatry, the Man of Sin, no doubt…

 

Does he mean all the unbelievers who came to the RCG Headquarters Winter Social despite knowing the Day of the Lord was to begin at sunset Friday night? Like the unbelieving Headquarters staff that prepared for a weekend that was taught would not happen?

 

The mentality at Headquarters was always, "Do not change plans based on prophetic understanding." The staff knew to follow through with plans despite what was taught at the lectern. Without saying so, the ministry operates from an unbelieving standpoint.

 

However, this mindset does not filter down to the brethren. They have heard from the lectern NOT to make big plans or investments for the future. Otherwise, they were unbelieving.

 

Some dear friends held off investing in their businesses and making big life decisions that would commit resources to their own well-being.

 

I know a fifteen-year-old girl who stopped doing her favorite large art projects two years ago because "Mr. Pack said Jesus is coming soon. So why start?" That broke my heart. Thankfully, she is back to doing what she loves without worrying about the latest nonsense Dave proclaims.

 

The brethren are faithful. They scale down. They pull back. They hold off. They wait patiently.

 

That is NOT what the Headquarters enablers do. The hirelings know it is pointless to delay anything.

 

No one in the Headquarters ministry takes David C. Pack seriously. If it happens, great. If not, nothing was blown up because of minuscule timing whoopsie daisies.

 

Brad rolls his eyes. Ed nods and smiles while the gears turn in his head. Ken stares blankly, wondering what his wife will make for supper.

 

Imagine people who do not buy the product their own company sells. A Coca-Cola executive only drinks Dr. Pepper. A Pizza Hut cook takes his family to Shakey’s. A Wallgreens cashier has their prescription filled at CVS.

 

Nobody inside The Restored Church of God takes David C. Pack seriously. Hence, the Winter Social Weekend was a huge success, and much fun was had by all.

 

The concept of a wicked saint is a Dave invention. That is not found in the Bible. But he repeats it often enough for it to become a reality to the brethren. They probably forgot it was conjured by their Pope.

 

@ 25:26 All the shepherds die. The saints die. And they’re never coming back.

 

Now, who’s up for some s'mores and Pictionary?

 

 

A wicked saint is among dozens of fabrications manufactured by a warped mind that requires the Bible to have words added to and taken away from to sell it.

 

Elijah is the “Where’s Waldo” of The Restored Church of God. As it turns out, he is all over the place.

 

David C. Pack constructs his own reality and repeats the fallacy often enough to condition brethren into accepting it. They must have forgotten how they winced the first time he said it.

 

@ 1:01:57 Go over to Ezekiel…43. Now, for the first three chapters, Elijah's measuring the temple in what would be the First Kingdom. And he’s explaining to Ezekiel. Elijah’s mentioned, I don’t know, dozens of times in here.

 

That is a lie.

 

Elijah is not mentioned once in the entire book of Ezekiel, and Dave knows this. But, he assumes, presumes, supposes, surmises, guesses, thinks, interprets, and believes he is. That makes perfect sense since he is Elijah. Elijah should know where Elijah is mentioned in the Bible, after all.

 

The circular logic spins so fast it makes you want to vomit.

 

Someone speaking lies as so matter-of-fact should alert anyone paying attention that this is not a sound mind at the wheel. The Elijah-spotting is the Spirit of Error on steroids.

 

If I were the devil, I would want Elijah to be in the Bible more than Jesus Christ. That way, Dave could spend his time preaching about what he will do rather than what Our Savior will do.

 

Mission accomplished.

 

 

Abib 1 should sound very familiar to old-timers in RCG, not only because Dave pooh-poohed the idea as recently as Part 412.

 

Part 412 – December 27, 2022

@ 12:35 It’s not Abib 1. That’s in the spring. We gotta be something in the winter.

 

He was all about Abib in 2019. And 2020. And 2021. And 2022.

 

When it fails again in 2023, Dave will inject himself into Passover and the Days of Unleavened Bread. Again. That is not a remarkable insight. All ex-RCGers anticipated this because they have a lot of experience.

 

Part 238 – March 14, 2020

@ 14:00 …it looks like that seven days ends on Abib 1. If that’s true, this is the last Sabbath. We won’t finish this service. Period…But a week after that, you passed Abib 1, and then you’ve got problems if you try to go another year…That’s what Ezekiel reveals.

 

Ah. Ezekiel has already toyed with Dave’s imagination. Abib is like the girlfriend you already broke up with. After some time, you get back together. But soon, remember why you broke up in the first place. Let more time pass, then give it another go. Break up again. Rinse and repeat.

 

Part 241 – March 27, 2020

@ 50:16 A Year of the Lord is Abib 1 to Abib 1, how can that be? “How can you tell me, Mr. Pack…that we’re past Abib 1, we’re not going to next Abib 1, and the Year of the Lord is Abib 1 to Abib 1?” It is possible, trust me.

 

Anyone who trusted him then was proven to be a dope. What does that say about folks who trust him now? Some attend RCG but do not trust Dave. Wisely so.

 

In 2020, Dave taught the Day of the Lord was one full year. The idea of ten days was not yet a twinkle in his eye. He keeps forgetting how often he has taught Abib 1. And he is counting on the brethren forgetting, too.

 

Part 241 – March 27, 2020

@ 20:23 …and do not fear the economy and do not fear the virus. We’re not going that long. And I’ll show you it was never, never gonna end Abib 1. I walked in yesterday morning…absolutely convinced that this…had to be Abib 1. By about 3:30…You couldn’t possibly convince me Christ is coming before sundown. There’s no way.

 

Trust David C. Pack at your own peril. His mind is a fickle mess. He broadcasts to everyone in RCG not to take him at his word or believe him past his next breath.

 

Part 241 – March 27, 2020

@ 1:16:11 Now, a loving God didn’t let us understand what we were into, or we'd have…understood we got to wait another whole year, and He didn't do that to us last year… But we’re not going to wait till next Abib.

 

If you read the original, you would be thankful for all the ellipses. I cut out the fat, so you do not have to eat it. He stated that 2021 was off the table. Until it wasn’t. See the pattern?

 

 

Another squinty point about Abib is that it fights one of Dave's cornerstones about winter. He mentions it but slides on past. Dave is an unbeliever in his own winter teaching. He has to wince, hold his breath, and turn his head sideways to still make it kind of work.

 

Part 414 – January 14, 2023

@ 1:10:24 So, Abib 1 is March 22. One day, by the way, after winter is over. Meaning flight would be in winter. March 21 in Jerusalem is the first day of spring. That's interesting. So, God is gonna start years almost dead-on within a day of spring?

 

It was all about winter. But when Abib is one day off, it is okay to slide it a tad. Bible prophecy always seems to have some built-in slop Dave can exploit when needed. Desperate times call for desperate measures.

 

Winter. Almost winter. Near winter. Whatever.

 

A 30-day month. A 29-day month. About a month. Whatever.

 

In the midst is dead bang down the center. Near the center. Generally anywhere thereabouts. Whatever.

 

Close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades. And bible prophecy date-setting, apparently.

 

Since Dave’s god is not one for exactness or precision, Abib being one tiny day off from winter is close enough. Thankfully, Elijah will save the day by appearing “before February 10.” But we will not get to learn about that until Part 415.

 

 

Some folks who traveled to the Winter Social did not believe Tevet 21 would happen. Some few hoped it would happen while they were there. Much disappointment was had by all.

 

The enabling hirelings at Headquarters do not take their Pester General seriously. With good reason.

 

This bonus quote aptly paints the picture.

 

Part 401 – October 22, 2022

@ 34:55 The month is Cheshvan. And that’s in the fall. And we’re never gonna move away from it.

 

There is a great irony at play inside The Restored Church of God.

 

An unbeliever of David C. Pack is a believer of the Bible.

 

An unbeliever of the Bible is a believer of David C. Pack.


Marc Cebrian

See: Winter Unbelievers

10 comments:

Anonymous said...

At least Pack isn't a typical feminist controlled Western pseudoman.

Anonymous said...

After much time and toil I have found what can only described as the reason for the improbable and explicit emanations from Wadsworth. The only possible explanation for this utter madness is Mountain Dew. Yes, implausible as it may seem, I have come to the conclusion that the only possible and logical explanation is that the Prophet from Wadsworth is addicted to Mountain Dew. Medically this is known as "Dew" Abuse. This explains why there is so much delusional vomit that emanates from the Third floor of the Fantasy Land Compound,(FLC). Although recovery is theoretically possible, the final outcome remains in question.

Anonymous said...

Hope springs eternal. False hope. Jesus is not coming back.

Anonymous said...

Rehab Program !!! (ASAP)

Anonymous said...

Like the soup Nazi, "NO SOUP FOR YOU!" Luckily the bible has all the recipes for eternal life in the real kingdom of God. So dave is foiled again.

Anonymous said...

“ Some dear friends held off investing in their businesses and making big life decisions that would commit resources to their own well-being..”

I have loved ones in that cult. Same thing; year after year they sold everything they had, gave all their money to Pack.. And it’s never enough. They live in poverty, despite having good jobs! Rundown rental place, no money to buy decent food, no decent clothes (except the “church attire”), no healthcare or money/means to visit a doctor when needed..

Broke my heart to see how they live. Meanwhile Pack is feasting all year around.

Anonymous said...

Life is so not fair. Jeff Beck, a humble but immensely talented musician who entertained so many with his novel guitar playing, and in his spare time built 1930's hot rods is dead, while Dave Pack, whose claim to fame is his lying prophecies and ability to make his followers live in poverty as they support him, continues to live.

(Sigh]

Lake of Fire Church of God said...

I'm confused. I thought the Great Tribulation according to Common Thief Dave Pack started on Saturday, January 14, 2023: https://armstrongismlibrary.blogspot.com/2023/01/dave-pack-great-tribulation-begins-this.html

Herbert Armstrong and classic Radio/Worldwide Church of God always taught the Great Tribulation would begin with the Germans attacking America. Does the Restored Church of God no longer believe and preach this Armstrong Church of God belief? How does the Great Tribulation starting on January 14 fit in with this latest date setting moving goal post? Or should I use Marc's past analogy of Lucy moving football on Charlie Brown?

And speaking of Marc's analogy, the Dallas Cowboy's Kicker last night in the Tampa Bay Wild Card rout sure reminded me of Marc's analogy, and Dave Pack's continued prophecy date setting failure. Whoa - 4 extra point misses in a row. Who would have predicted? Bobby Thiel or maybe his Cartoon Bob character? See Bobby Thiel, Football does have some positive qualities as it serves this Dave Pack analogy well.

Richard

Mark Wolfe said...

I think this is akin to the founder of a business going mad.

The executives, out of respect for the past accomplishes of the madman, just appease him and allow him to run around spouting foolishness.

After the madman rants the executives go back to running the business properly and assure the customers that in no way does this affect the product.

Anonymous said...

Dave, like Armstrong, had to have entertainment for the members to keep the money flowing. The socials, dances, clubs, etc. How fun it is to be in RCG. I heard the word "fun" in their videos often and made me sick to my stomach. Church is not a circus or a place to even eat with members (do you not have homes to eat...Per scripture). I have never seen such disgraceful and anti-biblical manipulations of what "the way", "the truth" should look like. Is that the "narrow way" of life? Really? Fake news of the gods spell!