Dave Pack: A Masterclass in Unsealing the Book of Daniel

 

David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God has been claiming to unseal the book of Daniel since 2015. This embarrassing supercut illustrates the absurdity of the prophetic doctrines of The Restored Church of God. 

Featuring clips from 2017 to 2025, the Book of Daniel has been allegedly unsealed multiple times by the Pastor General. This is not all of them. According to RCG, unsealing the Book of Daniel is a process. Not an event. This is one of the reasons why error is so pervasive, and David C. Pack will never be right.

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Rhinestones, Books, and Hospitals vs. Plaques, Scandals, and Endless Splits

Armstrongism had a real knack for denigrating anyone outside their exclusive little circle—especially if they were an entertainer, and heaven forbid, a professed Christian entertainer. Nothing set Herbert Armstrong’s blood boiling more than country music. Yet the man would happily sink into the velvet cushions of the Ambassador Auditorium and elsewhere, reveling in grand operas dripping with adultery, murder, and every other sin that Armstrongites supposedly held in such high disdain. Oh, the sheer hypocrisy of it all—the self-proclaimed apostle of purity getting his cultural high from highbrow debauchery while sneering at the honest, heartfelt twang of ordinary folks. How “godly.”

Today, Dolly Parton died. She was a larger-than-life figure who captured the attention of people from every walk of life, across political parties, racial lines, and cultural boundaries. She grew up in a strict Pentecostal faith-filled home in Tennessee, where gospel music filled the air as her entire family sang. Like many raised in fundamentalism, she later stopped attending church regularly and said the most important part of her day was talking to God by herself in the mornings. She wrote many songs about God, faith, love, and hope. She believed that true faith means loving everyone without conditions, supporting people from all walks of life, and avoiding hypocrisy.

Dolly Parton passed away on August 25, 2026, at the age of 80 in Nashville after a brief battle with cancer, surrounded by loved ones. Her husband of nearly 60 years, Carl Dean, had predeceased her in 2025.

A Jewish woman wrote today:

Dolly passed away at 80 years old today.She was a woman of strong faith-the healthy kind. Although I am Jewish, I have many Christian friends who have demonstrated,as Dolly did, what it means to truly follow Christ's teachings. Unlike the phonies that we snark about here, she was the complete opposite. I wish more people were like her, in every faith. She embraced everyone regardless of race, religion,sexual orientation, and nationality. She not only talked the talk, she walked the walk.

Another person wrote:

In 1988 Dolly Parton pulled every 7th and 8th grader in Sevier County into a room and told them to pick a buddy. She made them sign a contract.. if BOTH graduate, she hands you both $500. One fails, nobody gets paid. The county dropout rate went from 35% to 6%. She handed out the checks herself. 

In 1989 she offered $500 to every kid in the county who wanted to go to the local college. 

 

When Gatlinburg burned in 2016, she sent 900 families $1,000 a month for six months. You've probably heard that part. Here's the part you haven't: The fund raised more than expected, so she showed up in May and handed every one of those families another $5,000 on top. Then she quietly put $3 million into the recovery group that handles the years after the news trucks leave. 

She built her county an entire hospital. She played a benefit concert in 2007, Dollywood and the Stampede matched it, and LeConte Medical Center opened in 2010 with a birthing unit and a women's center in it. 

In 2022 she started covering 100% of tuition, books, and fees for Dollywood employees. Full-time, part-time, AND seasonal. 

In 1991 she paid for a bald eagle sanctuary because the birds couldn't be released back into the wild, no press release. 

And when Hurricane Helene came through here in Western North Carolina, she wrote a personal check for $1 million and her companies matched it. She didn't owe North Carolina anything, but she helped us anyway. 

She started the Imagination Library because her daddy couldn't read or write. Before he passed, he told her it was the most important thing she ever did.

So, right now, I know that there is a certain element reading here that is getting all pissy and offended in self-righteous indignation at the mention of Dolly on this blog. So my question is: What will the Churches of God be remembered for in 50 years from now? What will people say about Church of God leaders who ruled their churches with heavy hands and abusive tactics?

What legacy has Herbert Armstrong left in Pasadena? Ninety percent of the city now knows nothing about the guy, other than a few plaques on the dismantled grounds of the old Ambassador Campus. Those that do remember recall all of the scandals and news articles eviscerating the church and its leaders. What lasting legacy has HWA left, other than hundreds and hundreds of splinter groups all claiming they are the one and only true church and that they and they alone are the best? What has Bob Thiel, Dave Pack, or Gerald Flurry ever given us that was meaningful and worthwhile? Endless “prophetic” updates that somehow never quite land, demands for more tithes to keep their personal empires humming, and the constant reminder that everyone else is wrong while they alone hold the keys to the kingdom. A true monument to humility and service, no doubt—scattered little kingdoms more skilled at condemning the world (and each other) than actually lifting a finger to help it.

A lot of the major religions (Catholic and Protestant) formed the first schools of learning in Europe and the US, though today most have drifted from their religious roots. Churches have built hospitals, nursing homes, retirement communities, schools, and much more. All of the Ambassador Colleges have been sold and now dismantled, either bought by another cult or torn down to make housing for the elite. Other than Ambassador Auditorium, there is no legacy of the church passing anything on to their communities.

What will our legacy be as a church? At the present moment in COG history it is rather a shitty mess.

At whatever point in time Dolly meets her moment of glory and in whatever location it might be, she will be told: “Well done, my good and faithful servant!”

The Suspenders of Doom: How One Man in Iowa Just Demoted Germany and Promoted Trump to Full-Time Beast

 

God's greatest gift to the church (after Bob Thiel, of course) is Samuel Kitchen—the self-appointed restorer of the last true remnant of the Worldwide Church of God, just did a video broadcast straight from what appears to be a red-curtain bacchanal in one of those trailers at Stateline behind the casinos on your way to Vegas (or is that the official “ripped-off photo from Pasadena headquarters from the 1980s?). And what a fashion statement our new fearless end-time watchman was as he heralded in the imminent Beast system! Red shirt to symbolize the scarlet beast and black suspenders to symbolize its two horns.  

Yes, brethren. Nothing says “I am the sole authorized spokesman of the New and Improved Worldwide Church of God, holder of the sacred name, collector of tithes, owner of the greatest aggregator of COG literature since Ron Stephens, and sole possessor of the official COG decoder ring for the Bible, quite like dressing like a 1950s short-order cook on Route 66.  

In this latest prophetic masterpiece titled “Donald Trump…Future Beast?” (59 whole views and counting!), our suspendered sage continues his noble quest of recycling Herbert W. Armstrong’s greatest hits—British-Israelism, Germany-as-Assyria, place of safety in Petra, the whole dusty catalog—except now he’s improvising. Apparently the classic “man from Germany” Assyrian plot twist is getting a little stale, so why not pivot mid-sentence and declare that the Beast might actually be…Donald Trump? 

Half-German, half-whatever, building a great economy, auditing the nation like a cosmic receiver, and preparing to be possessed by Satan for a tidy 3½ years.  

Brilliant. 

Decades of meticulous Armstrongist charts proving the Beast rises from a United States of Europe just got yeeted into the Iowa cornfields because one man in suspenders had a new revelation while blabbering in front of the beastly red curtain. 

The Worldwide Church of God “fell into the hands of apostates,” you see, so only Samuel can now properly warn the world that looking “across the pond” for the Beast is so 1986. Look in the backyard instead! Or the Oval Office! Or wherever the algorithm points next week!  

Truly the cutting edge of 21st-century prophecy. Dave Pack, Bob Thiel and Gerald Flurry are shaking in their boots right now.

How to Get Into the Kingdom: Step 1 – Submit to Headquarters. Step 2 – There Is No Step 2

No one back in 1986, the moment Herbert W. Armstrong finally checked out, could have possibly predicted that the Church of God would one day turn into this flaming dumpster fire of theological insanity. Everyone was dead certain we’d already be in the Millennium by now, happily beating the survivors with iron rods while the elite taught classes at the Ambassador Colleges of the World Tomorrow. Herbert would’ve had the corner office right next to Jesus.

Instead, we got 2026 — and a parade of spectacularly unhinged men who make the old Worldwide Church of God look like a model of sanity.

There’s Bob Thiel, the human equivalent of beige wallpaper, who got shown the door by basically everyone and responded by declaring himself a prophet and starting his own little church in Africa like some kind of spiritual colonizer cosplay. Then there’s Dave Pack, who has spent years screaming that “Christ” is personally returning to Wadsworth, Ohio to walk the holy sidewalks for His third coming. Because of course He is.

And then, sitting at the very top of this pyramid of delusion, we have Gerald Flurry — self-appointed King of COGland, professional Irish dance enthusiast, and the man who has somehow convinced his followers that he and his headquarters now hold the actual keys to salvation.

Yes. You read that correctly. (posted as written)

What is the key of David? IT IS THE ROYAL GOSPEL VIEWED THROUGH THE EYES OF THE FATHER, AND THE HUSBAND, AND THE HEADQUARTERS BRIDE---the highest level of God's government through all eternity.that's right---the headquarters Bride. That Bride consists of those who will go no more out from God's Headquarters temple---those who will be ruling with Christ there in Jerusalem foreverv(verse 12). That is the highest calling for a body of God's people ever! That is the resplendent reward awaiting those who teach the key of David! They will be sitting on the Headquarters throne of David forever! So this is the gospel viewed through their eyes too.

Those during this Laodicean era who reject the key David will not have that reward. Fifty percent of them will repent and be in God's Family, but they will not be at Headquarters, because they reject rejected the key of David , the greatest vision of the Bible. Revelation 3 makes it clear that anyone who goes into the Tribulation will not be stationed at God's Headquarters. 

The very ELECT comprehend God's family government far better than most of God's people. 

 

The big question is this: Will you understand and submit to this government in the age of man's rule of man and act while there is time?

Consider this carefully: THE ROYAL KEY OF DAVID GOSOEL IS UNDERSTOOD NOW ONLY BY THE HEADQUARTERS KINGS AND PRIEST IN EMBRYO! If you fully understand and submit to this teaching now, you are going to reside in Jerusalem forever.

Only 5vpercent of God's own people in the Laodicean era have remained faithful to God---and only that 5 percent will qualify for that level of royalty in this end time. We can't drift into such an exalted position. We must work hard and fervently support God's Work toady.

In past ages, God has only prepared a small number of His people to rule from the Jerusalem Headquarters. 

It is hard to fathom the level of royalty God's Philadelphians truly are. God has given them knowledge He never gave to the other eras of His Church because He is specifically training His Headquarters personnel who will teach the key of David vision to the world. That is why God gives us that vision from the perspective of Headquarters in Jerusalem forever! He is revealing this vision with greater clarity all the time. Christ personally gives it to the Philadelphia era and to the Philadelphians in the Laodicean era. But only a small percentage of both eras qualify for Headquarters rule in Jerusalem. 

Armed with this key of David knowledge, we will be better able to support the prophets, apostles and leaders that God prepared in part ages."

According to the current PCG gospel, Jesus is apparently far too occupied trying to get back to Wadsworth and working with Bob Thiel preparing to flee to Petra, to bother with minor details like saving people. So Gerald and his loyal Headquarters staff have graciously stepped in to handle the whole “eternal life” thing themselves. If you don’t submit to their “royal government,” you’re apparently not getting in. The pearly gates now require a Headquarters stamp of approval.

This isn’t just weird. This isn’t just “different doctrine.”

This is straight-up, grade-A, gold-plated blasphemy.

This is the theological equivalent of saying the only way to get into the wedding feast is to have the right stamp from the right committee. It turns the gospel into a corporate loyalty program with eternal consequences. It takes the beautiful promise of Revelation 3:12 — “Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God… and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God… and I will write upon him my new name” — and turns it into an exclusive club for those who stayed loyal to one particular splinter group’s leadership.

Herbert Armstrong had plenty of issues, but even he would have taken one look at this nonsense and thrown these people out so fast their heads would spin. He did not raise up a church so that some guy could later declare himself the new toll booth operator between humanity and God.

This is what happens when unchecked ego, narcissism, end-time obsession, mental illness, and a total lack of accountability are allowed to fester for decades. You don’t get stronger Christians. You get people who genuinely believe their salvation is tied to whether they recognize Gerald Flurry as the Royal Kingly Headquarters Representative of Jesus Christ.

The Facebook post quoted above is not some fringe comment from a confused member. It is the logical endpoint of everything that has gone wrong. It is the distilled essence of the very “quagmire of heretical stupidity” that represents Armstrongism today. Who could have imagined that the highest reward in eternity is not found in Christ Himself, but in proximity to “Headquarters.” We are told that the “Key of David” is not ultimately about Jesus, but about recognizing a physical organization and its leader as the pinnacle of God’s government. We are told that only a tiny elite — the self-described “Headquarters kings and priests in embryo” — will sit on the real thrones in Jerusalem, while everyone else who fails to submit to this system gets a lesser seat in the Kingdom.

This is not biblical Christianity. This is not even a creative misreading of Scripture. This is a man-centered, headquarters-centered religion that has quietly replaced Jesus Christ with an institution and one elderly man as the practical gatekeeper of salvation and glory.

Yet here we are in 2026. The same movement that once preached Christ as the Head of the Church now has influential voices teaching that only those who accept “Headquarters” as the highest expression of God’s government will receive the highest reward. The irony is almost too perfect: the very people who claim to be the most faithful to Herbert Armstrong’s legacy have created a system he would have found utterly intolerable.

This is what happens when the focus shifts from Jesus Christ to an organization, from the Head to the “headquarters,” and from grace to government. It doesn’t produce humility. It produces spiritual arrogance dressed in royal language. It doesn’t produce people who are desperate for Christ. It produces people who are desperate to be recognized by Headquarters.

How unimaginable this future would have seemed in 1986. The conclusion is even more sobering: not only did no one see this coming, but the very people who claim to be preserving the truth have managed to create something far more dangerous than simple error. They have created a system in which loyalty to men and institutions is presented as the highest form of faithfulness to God.

That is not the Church Jesus Christ is building.

That is something else entirely.

And the longer it continues, the clearer it becomes that the real tragedy is not just that these men exist — it is that so many sincere people have been convinced that submitting to them is the same thing as submitting to God.

Breaking News: Ohio Ideastream Public Media Exposé On Dave Pack and Restored Church of God

 

Marc Cebrain and Kevin Denee (Dave Pack's son-in-law)

God’s Special “No Huge Mistakes” Insurance Policy Current Sinful Church of God Leaders Use

Nothing quite warms the heart of Church of God members than hearing their  leader casually announcing that he has achieved a level of spiritual excellence most of us can only dream of: zero major sins since baptism. And not only that — God Himself has apparently signed a binding contract promising that this same leader will never, ever be allowed to make a huge mistake that could damage “the Work.”

Because if there’s one thing the New Testament makes crystal clear, it’s that God has a VIP tier for certain ministers where catastrophic errors are magically rerouted like spam emails. This is the current thinking of Bob Thiel, Dave Pack. Gerald Flurry, Gerald Weston and almost all other COG leaders. All of these guys are grievous sinners yet we are supposed to give them a pass and pretend they are on a higher plain than us.

Remember when Rod Meredith said this:

We have brethren right now – and my word doesn't prove it to you – one thing I'm grateful, we have a lot of very human people in the work, but at least the leading ministers overall have been the most dedicated, the most solid, the most loyal men closest to God that I have ever experienced since the earliest days of the Church when just Mr. and Mrs. Armstrong were the father figure and mother figure. Pretty quick after that human nature came in and people were playing games – not horrible, I'm just saying we had a lot of [it], very obvious – now so many of the men like Mr. Ames, and Dr. Winnail, and Mr. Gerald Weston and others have been tested and tried, and tried and tested, and they have been walking with God, they've been put through the mill so to speak, and you have a group of men, that if anything happens to me, that have been tried and tested for DECADES, DECADES in the way of God. Will they make mistakes? YES! Did Mr. Armstrong ever make mistakes? Of course he did; he said many times, he said, "Herbert Armstrong has made HUNDREDS of mistakes." But he said, "God has never allowed me to make a huge mistake to destroy the Work." So he'll let us make little mistakes, but not huge mistakes, and then he'll straighten it out in his time.

Beautiful. Truly inspiring. It’s like having a divine bouncer at the door of your life who says, “Sorry, major sin? Not on my watch. Huge organizational disaster? Absolutely not. But feel free to stub your toe on minor errors — those build character.”

It must be a wonderful life, knowing you are incapable of ever doing anything seriously wrong or sinning in any significant way. That kind of logic is about as credible as claiming to be “doubly blessed” and then starting your own church. (This is why Pack refuses to apologize for lying to his followers, why Flurry will never tell his followers he is not a king and why Thiel will never correct the abysmal corruption in Africa - they don't care because they think they are not accountable).

According to this theology, Herbert and Loma Armstrong were basically sinless saints walking the earth in white robes until “a bunch of sniveling, backbiting members” showed up and introduced human nature into the equation. Because nothing says “humble servant of God” quite like blaming the entire body of Christ for your own potential shortcomings. The members didn’t just cause problems — they apparently corrupted the previously flawless leadership by their very presence. It’s the theological equivalent of saying, “I was doing fine until all these imperfect people started existing near me.”

The real crown jewel, though, is the claim that God has personally vetted a small group of men so thoroughly that He will now actively prevent them from making any mistake big enough to damage the Work. 

Little mistakes? Sure, God’s cool with those. 

Huge ones? Nope. Divine force field engaged. 

This is apparently what “walking with God” looks like in practice: decades of testing that result in supernatural error prevention, available only to the top tier. The rest of us regular humans? We just have to muddle through with normal consequences, repentance, and the terrifying possibility that our mistakes might actually matter.

Here’s where it gets especially delicious. This entire framework is pure Old Covenant cosplay wearing New Covenant clothing. 

Under the Old Covenant, sure — there were special anointed leaders who sometimes received extraordinary protection for the sake of the nation. Even then, most of them still managed to spectacularly crash and burn (David, Solomon, and roughly 90% of the kings of Israel and Judah would like a word).  

But the New Covenant did something rather inconvenient for this kind of thinking: it ended the special protected class. Jesus became the one and only sinless High Priest. The rest of us — including every minister who has ever lived — supposedly received the Holy Spirit and the ongoing reality that we still sin, still make big mistakes, and still need grace, accountability, and occasionally public correction. Paul called himself the chief of sinners after writing half the New Testament. Peter had to be publicly rebuked by Paul. 

The idea that any modern COG leader has graduated to “God will never let me destroy the Work with a huge mistake” level is not faith. It’s spiritual entitlement with a halo filter.

This theology is incredibly convenient. It means:

• No need for genuine accountability structures.
• Any major failure can be reframed as “God allowed a little mistake that He’s now straightening out.”
• The members remain “very human” while the leadership enjoys near-infallibility on anything that actually counts.

History has selectively rewritten so that the Armstrongs were perfect until the ungrateful rabble arrived. And, that long held belief that the original evangelists of the Radio/Worldwide Church of God were essentially sinless because God needed them to accomplish his mighty work. And even if they sinned, it was minor sins.

It’s almost as if the system was designed to protect the institution and its top men rather than reflect actual biblical teaching on human nature.

According to this worldview, some men have reached such a rarefied spiritual plane that God has installed a “no huge mistakes” clause in their contract. The rest of us are left with the old-fashioned New Covenant arrangement: daily repentance, mutual accountability, and the constant awareness that we are all capable of serious error.

How fortunate for the rest of us that these specially protected leaders exist to guide us.

After all, what could possibly go wrong when the people in charge believe God Himself has promised to stop them from ever making a truly catastrophic mistake?

Nothing. 

Absolutely nothing.

Except, of course, all the times it has.

How One Miserable Little COG Leader Turned America’s Birthday Into His Personal Victimhood Parade...Of Course He Did...

Never in the history of the Churches of God have we had a more miserable, self-serving narcissistic asswipe as a Church of God leader than what we currently have in Bwana Bob Thiel, who is continually vomiting all over the COG, Christianity, and the United States. Bwana Bob is starting to make Dave Pack, Gerald Flurry, and Ron Weinland look halfway sane! Is this guy ever happy or appreciative of ANYTHING?

As we approach July 4th, Bwana Bob is sitting in Arroyo Grande, squealing like a stuck pig stuck behind its feed trough.

He writes:

Typically, on the Fourth of July, many in the USA will have barbecues, watch parades, and/or view fireworks.

Those who live in the USA may wish to re-read its Declaration of Independence as its government in this century not only seems to have a disdain for more of the law of God, it also is probably more guilty than the old British rule for committing many acts that caused the colonists to revolt in the first place.

A reader sent me the following:

June and the first week of July, The colonies were at war against the great power of England. Men in a hot humid closed July room debated the future course of history. Lee’s proposal for independence led to a committee of of 5 to write out a Declaration. I will be showing Jefferson’s draft and the paragraph about slavery that was removed. Trumbull’s painting shows the draft being presented to Congress on June 28. Final approval and vote for independence soon followed.

Many years ago, I read my family much of the Declaration and commented upon how the then current USA federal, state, and local governments had committed most of the same actions against our family (directly and/or indirectly) that the USA’s revolutionary leaders objected to from the British king. I did that on the 4th of July a couple of times.

While every other Church of God leader in living memory has spent the Fourth of July the normal way — grilling burgers, watching parades, lighting fireworks, and actually enjoying the country — Bwana Bob has once again decided the holiday exists solely so he can lecture everyone about how oppressed he is. 

In his latest gloomy dispatch, Thiel announces that the Declaration of Independence has basically been weaponized against his family. Yes, you read that right. The same document that launched a revolution is now, according to Bob, a personal indictment of how the U.S. government has been picking on the Thiels. No other COG leader has ever pulled this narcissistic stunt. They celebrated the holiday. 

Bob turns it into a 3,000-word whiny little bitchfest about how the modern American state is somehow worse than King George III specifically because it has offended him.

Here’s what Bob actually wrote, stripped of the pious wrapping paper:

He starts by admitting that normal people do barbecues, parades, and fireworks on the Fourth. Then he immediately pivots to “you should re-read the Declaration because the current U.S. government is committing all the same crimes the British did… and worse.” He even brags that he used to read the whole thing to his family on the holiday and point out how the feds, states, and locals were doing the exact same oppressive things to them. Because of course the IRS audits, COVID rules, and surveillance programs were all about destroying the Thiel household personally. Classic.

He then pastes a reader’s email listing every modern annoyance — taxes, vaccine mandates, travel restrictions, CBDCs, “forever wars,” regulations, politicized justice, and cultural degeneracy — and treats it like fresh revelation. Bob’s big insight: Americans have “less independence to celebrate” every year. Shocking.

The heart of the piece is his line-by-line comparison of the Declaration’s grievances against King George to today’s America. He hits every greatest hit:

The king refused to assent to laws → Today’s presidents and courts do the same (especially when they don’t like what Bob likes) 

 

The king obstructed justice and created new offices to harass people → Patriot Act, Homeland Security, IRS targeting conservatives, COVID restrictions, and now even more biometric surveillance and AI under the current administration. 

 

Taxes without consent → We pay way more than the colonists ever did, so it’s basically the same. 

 

Standing armies and foreign mercenaries → Militarized police and endless foreign wars.  

 

Loss of privacy, property, due process, free speech, and bodily autonomy → Everything from SWAT teams to forced vaccines to government snooping. 

 

He even quotes John Whitehead at length about how the Constitution is already dead and we’re living under a de facto police state. Because nothing says “happy birthday, America” like telling everyone the founding documents are meaningless and the government is coming for your dog.

Thiel tops it all off by complaining that the Declaration is “too religious” for modern media (it mentions “Nature’s God” and “Divine Providence”), that the country has essentially declared independence from God, and that only national repentance can save us. He throws in the usual list of national sins — homosexuality, abortion, pornography, debt — for good measure. Then, in the classic Thiel closer, he says the country is doomed but you personally can still repent and have a brighter future than the nation. Translation: Listen to Bob or burn.

The entire article is one long exercise in turning a day of national celebration into Bob’s personal grievance session. He takes a document written by men who risked everything to create a new country and uses it as a mirror to stare at his own reflection and complain that the government isn’t nice enough to him. Other Church of God leaders managed to enjoy the Fourth without turning it into a sermon about how the entire United States is now a bigger tyrant than the one the founders overthrew — and how it’s all happening specifically to inconvenience Bob Thiel. 

He didn’t write a reflection on liberty. He wrote a 3,000-word complaint that the holiday exists to remind everyone how miserable he is and how everyone else should feel the same way. 

Happy Fourth, everyone. Try not to let Crackpot Bob ruin it.

Jeremiah 31:31 and the New Covenant: How Armstrongism Completely Botched It (With Hebrews 8 Rubbing Salt in the Wound)

Jeremiah 31:31 and the New Covenant: How Armstrongism Completely Botched It 

(With Hebrews 8 Rubbing Salt in the Wound)

Behold, the days are coming, declares the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah, not like the covenant that I made with their fathers on the day when I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, my covenant that they broke, though I was their husband, declares the Lord. (Jeremiah 31:31-32, ESV)

God Himself dropped a prophecy that should have ended the entire "let's drag Sinai into the Church Age" charade. Yet Herbert W. Armstrong and his ever-shrinking parade of self-anointed successors somehow twisted this divine declaration into theological gymnastics worthy of a circus sideshow. "New Covenant? Sure, but keep all the old rules, pay your tithes, and don't forget the Feast sites!" Brilliant strategy, boys. Really makes you wonder how they "rightly divide" anything besides their members' bank accounts.

God, never one for vague corporate memos, lays it out crystal clear:

For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the Lord: I will put my law within them, and I will write it on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they shall be my people. And no longer shall each one teach his neighbor and each his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for they shall all know me, from the least of them to the greatest, declares the Lord. For I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. (Jeremiah 31:33-34)

This isn't some minor software update to the Mosaic system with added Armstrong-flavored content like triple tithing, pork police, and calendar wars. No, this is a full system replacement. Internal transformation via the Holy Spirit. Universal knowledge of God—no elite "Philadelphian" headquarters bureaucrats or modern "apostles" needed to interpret for the peons. And best of all: complete, permanent forgiveness. Not the "repent, re-qualify, and grovel before the minister" hamster wheel these groups adore.

Jesus Himself confirmed it: "This cup that is poured out for you is the new covenant in my blood" (Luke 22:20). But why stop there when Hebrews 8 exists to absolutely eviscerate the old system?

Hebrews 8: The New Covenant Smackdown

The book of Hebrews doesn't pull punches—it quotes Jeremiah 31 and then joyfully plants the boot on the old covenant's neck:

"But as it is, Christ has obtained a ministry that is as much more excellent than the old as the covenant he mediates is better, since it is enacted on better promises. For if that first covenant had been faultless, there would have been no occasion to look for a second." (Hebrews 8:6-7)

Faultless? The old one was a glorious failure precisely because of those stubborn human hearts. So God promised something vastly superior. Then comes the knockout:

"In speaking of a new covenant, he makes the first one obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away." (Hebrews 8:13)

Obsolete. Vanishing. Ready to disappear. Take a good long look at that, Bwana Bob Thiel, Dave Pack, Gerald Flurry, Jon Brisby, Samuel Kitchen, and the rest of the COG relic collectors. Your precious hybrid "spiritual old covenant" that you peddle as essential for salvation? The Bible calls it outdated junk, fading into irrelevance like yesterday's failed prophecy date. The old had a weak priesthood, a shadowy tabernacle, and repetitive sacrifices that could never perfect anyone. Jesus brought the real deal—a better High Priest, better promises, and actual rest.

Where Armstrongism Went Off the Rails (Spectacularly)

The entire Armstrongist empire is built on studiously ignoring Hebrews 8 while cherry-picking "Israel" prophecies to prop up their British Israelism fantasy. They love yapping about a "New Covenant" in sermons—just enough to sound biblical—before burying it under mountains of Old Covenant baggage. "The law is written on your heart now... so keep it exactly like ancient Israel or you're disqualified!" How profoundly convenient for maintaining control, extracting cash, and disfellowshipping questioners.

Their system couldn't survive the truth: the New Covenant isn't about becoming "spiritual Israel" cosplaying Old Testament rituals to earn brownie points with God. Christ fulfilled it all. The law on hearts produces real fruit by the Spirit, not the fear-soaked, gritted-teeth obedience that defined decades of ruined lives, broken families, and ministerial abuse in these groups.

The Glorious Implications (That They Desperately Ignore)

Total forgiveness. Direct access to God. Freedom from the shadows that pointed to Christ. Grace that empowers instead of a law that only exposed failure. This is what the exiles from Armstrongism discover: actual life, not perpetual performance anxiety.

Armstrongism didn't merely misunderstand Jeremiah 31 and Hebrews 8—they performed a full-on doctrinal inversion, standing these glorious truths on their heads to protect a dying system of control and cash flow. While God announced a better covenant with better promises, these self-appointed experts doubled down on the obsolete, peddling the same legalistic poison that couldn't save Israel and certainly won't save anyone today. Their "one true church" routine, complete with prophetic failures, Kenyan scandals, luxury lifestyles funded by the faithful, and endless calendar/tithing obsessions, stands exposed as the very embodiment of the "faulty" old system God replaced.

Yet the good news rings louder than their desperate radio broadcasts and member letters ever could: the days foretold by Jeremiah are here. The old has passed away. The new has come in the person and finished work of Jesus Christ. No more middlemen demanding your paycheck to "qualify" for a kingdom they can't even accurately predict. No more fear-driven rule-keeping that leaves souls exhausted and families fractured. The Holy Spirit writes God's law on hearts not to resurrect Sinai, but to produce living faith that looks like Christ.

If you're still trapped in one of these splinter groups, do yourself and your loved ones a favor: open Jeremiah 31 and Hebrews 8 without the headquarters-approved filters. Let the Spirit speak directly, as the New Covenant promises He will. The freedom purchased at Calvary isn't a future reward for perfect Sabbath or Feast attendance—it's a present reality for all who trust in the better Mediator.

Stop earning what Christ has already given. The hamster wheel stops here. Real rest, real relationship, and real life await outside the shadows of Armstrongism. The new covenant isn't just better—it's everything the old one could never be.

Freedom isn't coming. It's already been delivered.

Silent Pilgrim

Precept Upon Precept, Clown Upon Clown: How Armstrongism Turned God’s Mockery Into Their Holy Study Method

 

But the word of the Lord was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken. Isaiah 28:13

Ah, yes. The classic Armstrongist party trick. Whenever some wide-eyed prospective member or lingering splinter drone starts asking too many pesky questions about why the "one true church" cherry-picks doctrines like a starving raccoon in a dumpster, out comes the triumphant bellow: "Precept upon precept! Line upon line! Here a little, there a little!" It's their sacred get-out-of-context-free card, the magical incantation that justifies ripping verses from here, there, and everywhere to "prove" British Israelism, mandatory tithing to headquarters, triple tithes and offerings during "God's" feast days, the sacred calendar, clean/unclean meats, and whatever other Old Covenant legalism HWA and his prophetic successors decided was essential for salvation that week.

Let's actually open the Bible and see what Isaiah 28:9-13 says, shall we? (You know, the whole context thing that the "Philadelphia era" remnant claims to love so much.)

King James Version (because that's the one they prefer when it suits them):

9 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts. 10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little: 11 For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people. 12 To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear. 13 But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.

Notice something? The phrases "precept upon precept" etc. are not a divine study method handed down from on high. They are the mocking taunt of drunken, scoffing priests and prophets in Ephraim (and by extension, Judah) who are ridiculing Isaiah's message. They're saying, in effect: "Who does this guy think he's teaching? Babies just weaned from the breast? Blah blah blah, rule on rule, line on line, a little here, a little there—yada yada yada." It's baby talk to their sophisticated, wine-soaked ears.

God is not patting them on the back for their systematic theology homework. He's pronouncing judgment. They rejected the true rest and refreshing found in Him (verse 12 — hello, New Covenant shadow), preferring their own religious game of collecting scattered proof-texts while ignoring the heart of the matter. As a result, the very words they mocked become a trap that causes them to stumble, fall backward, be broken, snared, and taken captive.

How Armstrongism Distorted It Masterfully

Herbert W. Armstrong and his theological descendants (Thiel, Pack, Flurry, Kitchen, Brisby, and the rest of the clown car) turned this passage of divine mockery and judgment into their primary hermeneutical operating system. "The Bible is a jigsaw puzzle! You have to put it together precept upon precept, here a little there a little!" they'd thunder from the pulpit, while conveniently ignoring that the passage is God describing how the unrepentant stumble over His word precisely because of that fragmented, rules-focused approach without the Spirit.

This "method" gave them unlimited license to:

• Proof-text their way to British Israelism by yanking obscure verses about ancient tribes and slapping them onto modern Anglo-Saxon nations. Never mind the mountains of genetic, historical, and archaeological evidence against it.

• Reimpose the Old Covenant (or their mutated version of it) on New Covenant believers. Tithing? Check. Holy Days? Check. Dietary laws? Check. Sabbath policing? Double check. All while Jesus and the Apostles made it clear the shadows have been fulfilled in Christ.

• Dodge the plain teaching of Scripture on grace, faith, and rest in Christ. Why deal with the finished work of the Cross when you can hopscotch through 66 books looking for supporting snippets?

• Maintain control. If everything is "here a little, there a little," only the enlightened Apostle or his chosen successor can properly assemble the puzzle. Question the assembly? You're a Laodicean, rebellious, or worse.

It's peak irony. The passage warns against treating God's word like a bunch of disconnected rules from a drunken religious elite who rejected rest in Him — and Armstrongism built an entire empire on doing exactly that.

The Real Point They Missed (Because It Would Bankrupt Their Empire)

Verse 12 is the heart: 

This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear.

Sound familiar? Jesus said, "Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest" (Matthew 11:28). The New Covenant isn't about mastering scattered precepts through human effort and headquarters-approved Bible studies. It's about faith in the finished work of Christ, the true Cornerstone (Isaiah 28:16, right in the same chapter they love to twist).

The Armstrongist approach — endless rule-stacking, fear of "falling away" if you miss a Holy Day, financial extraction disguised as "God's government," and spiritual exhaustion — is the exact opposite of rest. It's the path that leads to being "broken, and snared, and taken." Just look at the devastated lives, failed prophecies, scandals, and shrinking congregations across the splinters. The trap worked exactly as Isaiah described.

Congratulations, COG leaders! You've taken a passage where God mocks religious know-it-alls who treat His word like a rulebook for toddlers and turned it into your infallible method for reinventing Judaism with a thin coat of "Church of God" paint. Precept upon precept indeed — mostly the precepts of men that make the word of God of none effect (Mark 7:13, another verse they probably "here a little" away from).

If you're in one of these groups and feeling weary, exhausted, and spiritually snared... maybe stop treating the Bible like a drunken scoffer’s puzzle and listen to what God actually said about rest. The refreshing is available in Christ, not in another "special" Bible study booklet from Wadsworth, Grover Beach, Edmond, or wherever the latest self-appointed Elijah is holed up.

The word of the Lord was unto them precept upon precept... that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken.

New Covenant Christians must grasp this passage not as a clever study tip, but as a stark warning against the very snare that trapped generations in Armstrongism. The "precept upon precept" approach, when stripped of its sarcastic biblical context, becomes a self-perpetuating system of spiritual bondage—piecing together isolated rules while missing the grand tapestry of grace fulfilled in Jesus. It keeps believers perpetually weaned from the true milk of the Word, treating Scripture as a divine puzzle only "God's government" can solve, rather than a living revelation pointing to rest in Christ.

In light of Armstrong's distortions, believers today are called to reject this fragmented legalism entirely. The New Covenant, sealed by the blood of the Lamb, frees us from the exhaustive labor of reassembling Old Covenant shadows. No more hunting "here a little, there a little" for justification through diet, days, or dollars. Instead, we stand on the solid Cornerstone, where the weary find genuine refreshing—not in headquarters-approved booklets or self-appointed apostles, but in the finished work of the Cross. This understanding dismantles the fear tactics and control mechanisms that thrive on confusion, replacing them with the simplicity of faith, love, and liberty in the Spirit. No one needs Bob Thiel, Dave Pack, Gerald Weston, Gerald Flurry telling them jus how things are supposed to be. 

Ultimately, Isaiah 28 exposes how religious elites stumble when they mock God's offer of rest. For those emerging from Armstrongist shadows, this means embracing the full implications of the New Covenant: no more hybrid law-grace systems, no more "one true church" elitism, and no more exhaustion masquerading as obedience. True doctrine flows not from puzzle-solving prowess, but from relationship with the One who is our Sabbath rest. As you study Scripture, do so with eyes fixed on Christ—the refreshing that the scoffers rejected. In doing so, you avoid the trap, walk in freedom, and become a voice of clarity for others still entangled in the wreckage of failed prophecies and man-made empires. The rest is not only better; it is the very gospel itself.

Did Herbert W. Armstrong Really Have the Power to "Bind and Loose" on Earth and in Heaven?

 

Did Herbert W. Armstrong Really Have the Power to "Bind and Loose" 

on Earth and in Heaven?

Samuel Kitchen claims that Herbert Armstrong had the keys to bind and loose things on earth and in heaven, but did he really?

Herbert W. Armstrong loved to position himself as Christ's one and only end-time apostle, complete with the divine authority to "bind and loose" doctrines, practices, and even people's eternal destinies. He didn't just hint at it—he declared it with the full weight of his office. In a November 8, 1978, member letter, he made it "OFFICIAL" that this authority belonged exclusively to "Christ's present-day Apostle," not to lower-rank ministers or the church as a body. In August 1978, he warned that any "separated individual believer" trying to get salvation on his own or by following some man or denomination was "CUT OFF" from the true teaching that Christ reveals only through His apostle.

He doubled down: Disagree on doctrine? You're out of harmony with God's one Church. And that Church, of course, speaks only what Christ taught His apostle. Nice setup if you're the apostle.

This wasn't some minor administrative quirk. It was the theological engine that powered the entire WCG system of one-man rule, mandatory tithing, prophetic speculation, and disfellowshipping anyone who dared question the party line. But was HWA actually qualified to wield this authority? And more importantly, is the way he framed it biblical—or is it rank heresy that has left a trail of spiritual wreckage across decades of Armstrongism?

The phrase comes from Matthew 16:19 (to Peter) and Matthew 18:18 (in the context of church discipline). In first-century Jewish usage, "binding and loosing" referred to authoritative teaching: declaring what Scripture forbade or permitted, exercising discipline, and pronouncing forgiveness or retaining guilt. It was never a blank check for one man to invent new doctrines, override the Bible, or act as a spiritual dictator.

Peter had a unique foundational role, but even that was shared. The church is built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets (past tense—Ephesians 2:20), with Christ as the cornerstone. Acts 15 shows a council of apostles and elders making decisions together. Church discipline in 1 Corinthians 5 and 2 Corinthians 2 involved the congregation, not a lone apostle issuing decrees from headquarters. The New Testament knows nothing of an ongoing "chief apostle" office that funnels all truth through one self-appointed successor.

True apostolic authority was confirmed by eyewitness testimony of the risen Christ and miraculous signs (Acts 1:21-22; 2 Corinthians 12:12). HWA met none of those qualifications. His "new truths" were often recycled British Israelism, calendar theories, and prophetic guesses that failed spectacularly. Scripture is sufficient (2 Timothy 3:16-17); we don't need a latter-day apostle to keep updating it.

By claiming exclusive access to "TRUE TEACHING" that Christ reveals only through him, HWA turned the gospel into a franchise operation. Step outside his church? Cut off. Disagree with the apostle? Out of harmony with God Himself. This wasn't shepherding God's flock—it was building a personality cult where loyalty to HWA became the litmus test for salvation.

This doctrine enabled decades of control: dictating marriages, finances, medical decisions, and even what members could read or think. It elevated one flawed man above the priesthood of all believers (1 Peter 2:9) and the direct access to Christ promised in the New Covenant (Hebrews 4:14-16). The Holy Spirit leads God's people into truth collectively (John 16:13), not through a Pasadena bottleneck.

The splinters have carried this virus forward. Whether it's Dave Pack's "apostle" delusions in Wadsworth, Bob Thiel's crackpot pronouncements, or any of the other self-appointed Elijahs and Zerubbabels, the pattern remains: one man at the top, binding and loosing whatever serves the current narrative, while members are warned against "following men" (except, of course, the right one).

Let's call this what it is: a masterful theological con job that would make a used car salesman blush. Herbert Armstrong didn't just misunderstand "binding and loosing"—he weaponized it to crown himself the indispensable middleman between you and God. Forget the finished work of Christ, the sufficiency of Scripture, or the New Covenant reality of grace through faith. No, salvation required staying tuned to the apostle's latest epistle, checkbook open and critical thinking switched firmly to "off."

The sheer arrogance is almost comical. Here was a man who couldn't even keep his own prophecies straight, who changed doctrines more often than most people change socks, declaring himself the sole channel of divine truth while labeling everyone else "cut off." If that isn't the spirit of Antichrist—exalting himself above all that is called God (2 Thessalonians 2:4)—it's doing a damn fine imitation.

Thank God the New Covenant tears up this kind of spiritual extortion racket. No human organization or self-proclaimed apostle stands between you and the Savior. The Holy Spirit isn't on payroll at any headquarters. The priesthood of believers isn't a suggestion—it's reality. You don't need to "get your salvation all by yourself" in isolation, but neither do you need to submit to some modern-day pharisee with a mailing list and a God complex.

The wreckage is everywhere: ruined families, devastated finances, failed prophecies stacked like cordwood, and generations still trapped in fear because they were taught that leaving "the Church" meant leaving God. But the truth is the opposite. Real freedom in Christ begins when you stop following men who bind heavy burdens and start walking in the liberty purchased by the blood of the Lamb.

If you're still entangled in this mess—whether in a major splinter or some tiny "one true church" remnant—consider this your invitation to the exit ramp. Test everything against Scripture, not against the latest apostle's decree. The real Chief Apostle finished His work 2,000 years ago. He doesn't need a Pasadena successor or a self-appointed splinter apostle/prophet/chief overseer/pastor general.

The German Blitz That Crumbled Before It Started – Thanks, Demographics!

For decades, Armstrongism has clung desperately to the long-held delusion that Germany will once again rise as a military juggernaut, invade the United States, England, Australia, Canada, and other so-called “Israelitish” nations, slaughter a third of the inhabitants, haul off millions of prisoners (especially the young and fit), and ship them across the Atlantic to serve as slaves for their European overlords. It even reached peak absurdity at one point with the claim that when the Germans stormed ashore, they’d be so dazzled by the Ambassador Auditorium and surrounding properties in Pasadena that they’d declare it the invasion headquarters. Heaven forbid they tear it down—after all, why destroy such a fine example of God’s (or at least Herbert’s) handiwork when you could just occupy it instead?

Herbert Armstrong kicked off this paranoid fever dream by repeatedly insisting that Hitler was still alive and hiding out in South America, most likely Argentina, plotting his comeback tour. Then Rod Meredith had what can only be described as a particularly vivid wet dream about Americans being cooked in Nazi ovens, hung on meat hooks to die slow deaths, and—because nothing says “biblical prophecy” like extra cruelty—skin from those with tattoos being turned into lampshades, just like the Nazis actually did in some concentration camps.

Scores of breathless articles flooded the Plain Truth, Good News, and World Tomorrow magazines, warning of the imminent German blitz. And who could forget Gerald Waterhouse’s traveling road show of unhinged stupidity, where he not only regurgitated these delusions but happily invented fresh ones for the flock? Even today, the usual suspects—Bob Thiel (a.k.a. Bwana Bob, the Crackpot Prophet), Gerald Flurry, Ron Weinland, Alton Billingsley, Dave Pack, and a whole clown car full of other self-appointed know-it-alls—continue to peddle this nonsense as if it’s cutting-edge revelation instead of moldy 1930s-era geopolitical fan fiction. It should be painfully obvious by now that mental illness and grand delusions are occupational hazards for far too many Church of God leaders and evangelists.

These Church of God leaders need this German invasion to happen. It simply must occur! Only then can they finally declare victory and prove that every wild-eyed prediction they’ve ever made wasn’t the ravings of paranoid men living in perpetual fear of being exposed as frauds.

All of this stems from their stubborn refusal to leave the Old Covenant behind—those heavy chains of law-keeping, enforcement, and threats used to keep the sheep in line. Armstrongism’s allergic reaction to fully embracing the New Covenant is precisely why they keep recycling this apocalyptic garbage. Instead of finding rest in the One who accomplished it all, they prefer to wallow in fear and cower before imagined divine wrath.

They desperately need to see an invading army of jackbooted Germans marching down the streets of Charlotte or Grover Beach. But not once do they sit down and actually think this mythical scenario through. Germany currently fields around 1,000,000 active and reserve military personnel, while the United States has about 3,000,000. Oh wait, they always have an escape hatch: After Germany miraculously drops nuclear bombs on all the major military installations and cities, the number of defenders will be minimal. And of those who remain, many will conveniently perish from hunger and disease. Armstrongism has a convenient workaround for everything!

One thing these prophetic geniuses never had the intellectual honesty to consider is the current state of Germany’s military. This tidbit was on a German page on X:

“Germany can no longer raise an army, simply because of how many Muslims are now German citizens” 

 

“Now, allegedly, Germany's Chancellor Friedrich Merz has privately admitted that he's worried about the country's ability to raise an army, simply because Germany doesn't want to put weapons in the hands of hundreds of thousands of Muslim Germans. And he'd be right in worrying, because a recent study of young Muslim Germans showed that nearly half expressed latent Islamist attitudes, which are, you know, the kind of attitudes that turn Muslims into terrorists, and more than half said that their religious commandments were more important to them than even German democracy. And if you ask me, these don't sound like the attitudes of Germans. These sound like the attitudes of Germany's enemies”

Let’s get into the facts. A 2025–2026 German government-backed study by MOTRA, Radicalization Monitoring System, involving the Federal Criminal Police Office, found that 45.1% of Muslims under 40 in Germany hold either “manifest” (11.5%) or “latent” (33.6%) Islamist attitudes. This includes preferences for Sharia over the constitution, antisemitic views, and Islamist leanings. When you have a significant population of Muslims who hold a pro-Sharia Law mindset, you can’t trust them in your military.

In the end, the entire edifice of Armstrongist prophecy about a German invasion crumbles under the slightest scrutiny, revealing itself as nothing more than a fear-based control mechanism dressed up in biblical language. While these leaders continue to hype imaginary jackbooted hordes, the real world moves on—Germany grapples with its own demographic and security challenges that make conquering the United States about as likely as Herbert Armstrong returning from Mountain View Cemetery in Altadena to lead the charge himself.

The tragedy is that generations of sincere people have lived in dread, sacrificing time, money, and peace of mind to support a fantasy that has failed spectacularly for decades. The New Covenant offers rest, freedom, and security in Christ, not endless paranoia about European superpowers or nuclear doomsday scenarios conveniently rigged in favor of the “one true church.” It’s long past time for those still trapped in this system to step away from the delusions, embrace the finished work of the Savior, and leave the failed prophets to their increasingly desperate echo chambers. True peace doesn’t come from watching for German tanks on the horizon—it comes from the One who has already overcome the world.

Restored Church of God: David C. Pack is a Lying False Prophet

 

David C. Pack is a Lying False Prophet

David C. Pack is a lying false prophet. To believe otherwise requires willful foolishness and stubborn denial of the overwhelming documented facts that are freely available to all who care to examine.

It would be far too kind to describe David C. Pack as being the least truthiest minister in the COGs. The stark reality is that the Pastor General of The Restored Church of God is a bald-faced liar. He does not just issue verbal mistakes or fumble into biblical whoopsie daisies, but he intentionally deceives the brethren whom he professes to love.

As a Christian impostor, he counts on his mind-numb worshippers being so mentally exhausted that they will fail to realize the numerous contradictions and intentional lies he utters ex cathedra. The human idol and Pope of Wadsworth makes up his own rules as he goes along, ignoring Bible verses he claims to uphold.

The only escape David C. Pack has from being a certified prolific liar is if he turns out to be a theological moron with a neurological condition that prevents him from remembering anything longer than 30 seconds ago.

The only rational conclusion any critically thinking human being can conclude is that, with the preponderance of the evidence, David C. Pack is a lying false prophet.

This video provides a fraction of the receipts:

Dave’s delusional prophethood was extensively covered in the 2024 article, “Prophet David C. Pack,” but due to his most recent declarations, an update was in order.

 

I would like to see Bradford G. Schleifer try to grease his way out of this one:

Part 579 – June 7, 2025
@ 57:01 And it would be easy to throw my hands up and just say, “No man knows the day of the hour.” And oh, do the mockers love to hit me on that. “Oh, this man is a false prophet.” I've never claimed to be a prophet.

Part 447 – June 6, 2023
@ 2:02:42 Now, the fact that He's [God] revealing this to me, I have to be a prophet.

@ 2:02:58 I have to be Elijah now.

Part 27 – May 7, 2016
@ 1:46:53 I knew I understood I was Elijah.

Part 273 – December 12, 2020
@ 2:29:03 That prophet has to talk about it. If it's not me, brethren, then you better go looking for him.

David C. Pack was so convinced that he was the Elijah to come that he preached that God would destroy the earth if his commission was stopped.

First a Moses, Now Elijah—130 Proofs! (Part 3) – January 24, 2015
@ 1:16:51 Or is it something bigger that causes the devil to want me dead above all human beings on earth? If Elijah's commission is stopped, God said He would destroy the earth, brethren. Now, if you’re uncomfortable with me holding that job, it couldn’t be as much as I am.

Ah, shucks, fellas. If you keep me from doing my job, the entire earth blows up. Gee whiz.

No wonder David C. Pack called me "That devil, Marc Cebrian" at the supper table during the Feast of Tabernacles in 2023:

@ 1:16:58 If the devil can kill or discredit or block me using every means possible, he can make God put God in a position to destroy this planet.

My apologies to the inhabitants of the earth. The purpose of exrcg.org was not to annihilate the globe. But fear not, people of the little blue dot, for even David C. Pack came to his senses and agreed with me. He undeclared he was a prophet.

Part 291 – February 27, 2021
@ 1:02:14 I am not Elijah. Not yet. But as an apostle, the Bible does say, Paul did say, “For we know in part and we prophesy in part.”

Unfortunately for Dave, only God installs men into positions of authority. Humans cannot do that. Either David C. Pack was never a prophet to begin with and presumptuously stole the title for himself, or he is a prophet ordained by God and has since proven himself to be false.

Which is it, Brad? You can rope Ed in on that one and confer. I will eagerly await your generic non-answer excuse why it is okay to allow that blaspheming liar to continue as RCG’s figurehead.

 

Dave walked back being Elijah, but held onto his "prophesying" assertions by altering the meaning to be "just teaching what the Bible says." But slathered with healthy portions of wishy-washy verbiage.

Part 501 – March 30, 2024
@ 27:42 So, it's possible, it's possible, I guess, I'll just say, maybe that I'm prophesying things that are gonna happen.

Part 583 – July 12, 2025
@ 01:30 Now, I’m not setting a date. I’m presenting an immensely powerful pile of evidence for examination… If a date is set, the material will do it. Not me.

So, the material has been wrong 144 times since August 30, 2013, and not David C. Pack. Gotcha.

Even after unlawfully revoking his own Elijah status, Dave continued to lie to the church while claiming God’s authority and speaking in His name.

Part 471 – September 30, 2023
@ 1:43:41 I just don't know. And I’m not here to tell you the day. I’ll never do it again. I’ll never do it again.

Did Dave learn his lesson?

Part 602 – October 18, 2025
@ 1:49:40 Now, if the three bedrock points covered today… can all be wrong, all of it's just all wrong, we can just acknowledge together today that I couldn’t possibly ever offer another date in their place. Could never be done.

Did David C. Pack stop lying?

Part 617 – January 17, 2026
@ 1:31:48 It wudden’t Trumpets. And it wudden’t Abib 1, and it wudden’t Tevet 10, and I was trying to figure—we got it. We got it!

Daniel’s 1335 did not begin on February 2, 2026, on Shevat 16, but that was the sermon that invented the hilarious Regret-O-Meter. I would also like to formally thank David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God for providing this immortalized moment of raw hubris and a supreme vanity.

Did Dave finally realize how awful he was at his self-assigned job and come to a horrific realization that God is not backing up anything he preaches?

Part 631 – April 11, 2026
@ 1:49:45 I know the exact date, absolutely, 1000% that the Kingdom is coming, and you know it can't be later than the Second Passover, and that's 19 1/2 days away.

Dave tries to utilize gaslighting and lies to erase the past. Only an enemy of the church would dare write down what he said and remind you about it. Contrary to his assertions, I do not want anyone in RCG dead. I just want them to remember.

Part 634 – May 2, 2026
@ 1:39:35 But Elijah the Prophet has not yet appeared. I am not Elijah. Nobody is.

David C. Pack circumvents scripture to once again manifest his own “because I say so” theology that conveniently excuses his perpetual failings. Using self-serving logic, he conjures biblical excuses without being able to quote a verse or provide any proof.

Just like any false prophet would.

@ 1:39:43 I’m still a messenger and an apostle, and I can err. I can get dates wrong… Surely, everyone knows I can err.

This is an admission of defeat without assuming any accountability.

@ 1:40:20 But, I can err. A prophet, when Elijah is raised as a prophet, a prophet cannot err because he gets the words directly from God’s mouth.

@ 1:40:51 I’m not getting any words from God’s mouth.

So, that makes preaching 144 wrong dates since 2013 perfectly fine now.

David C. Pack currently denies that he is a prophet and is not Elijah. Because he is “just an apostle,” he self-pardons himself from past responsibility and is perpetually excused for making prophetic “mistakes.” But boy, if one of those dates popped, he would be hopping up and down while pissing himself with excitement that he finally got one right, and crying out at the top of his lungs how right he was.

Dave often teaches that a carnal mind has an amazing ability to find a way to justify sin and disobedience. His ego cannot let him consider that he is doing this right now. By claiming he is not a prophet, he desperately tries to defuse the accurate observation that he is a false prophet.

There are no "take-backs" in Bible prophecy, Dave.

In this way, the Pastor General is retroactively excusing his fraudulent declarations by hiding behind a non-existent biblical loophole. On August 30, 2013, David C. Pack had a singular opportunity to be proven legitimate. And he failed. Which is why he will continue to fail into the grave.

David C. Pack is a hypocritical blaspheming liar, false apostle, false teacher, and false prophet. He discredits himself, and his own words dissolve all of his credibility. He does not speak with God's authority or on God's behalf. The Holy Spirit does not inspire David C. Pack to preach what he does.

No amount of lying or gaslighting will change the reality that David C. Pack is a false prophet.

Marc Cebrian

See: David C. Pack is a Lying False Prophet