Dave Pack: Prophetic Waffling

 

Prophetic Waffling

The brethren in The Restored Church of God were able to enjoy their Thanksgiving turkey with a side of prophetic waffles served up by their human idol, Pastor General David C. Pack.

Ever-splaining with God’s authority, he has officially announced he is unsure about when the biblical Rubik’s Cube will be figured out. It could either be on December 5, 2025, or perhaps February 2, 2026. Hard to know until it happens, folks. He does offer his last best guesstimate.

As is his persistent custom, instead of holding fast to his own teaching, he started waffling in slow motion, serving small fresh-baked doubts about when he will prove his naysayers wrong.

The more Dave dishes out his prophetic waffles, the more the brethren are willing to keep eating them.

 

Fleeting and sparse are the days when David C. Pack teaches anything with clarity, power, and authority.

Flashback Part 601 – October 11, 2025
@ 1:39:52 The only way I could be dissuaded or the men who work with me intensely about this, of the date I know about, is if God or Gabriel spoke from heaven with an oracle to tell me otherwise.

But that was when Dave had on his big boy pants.

Only one month later, during “The Greatest Untold Story!” Parts 607 and 608 on November 15, 2025, the brethren were subjected to a more timid Pastor General who was determined to undermine his own teaching while he spent more hours continuing to teach it.

If you listened carefully, the stealthy waffling about December 5 (Kislev 16) came early.

Part 607 – November 15, 2025
@ 00:54 Kinda stay prepared. Stay ready for for what could I say? Monumental surprises.

One of the monumental surprises would come after three hours and six minutes of padding.

Part 608 – November 15, 2025
@ 1:24:54 All these verses don't match 1335 exactly. That's a problem. Something to ponder for later. It's close. Of course, we cannot have long.

The certainty of December 5 being the date that cannot tarry was already fading before Dave shuffled to the front table. But like most half-decent magicians, he needed to keep the audience distracted before subtly topping his waffling with deceptive syrup and powdered manipulation.

@ 1:25:08 But a critical point has come clear, and that's a kind of an introduction to it.

@ 1:25:24 So I I'm I I'm I’m preaching sometimes twice. Feel good. Thank you. I know you're praying for me. I been getting tremendous energy. I can't even explain it. It's its own miracle.

David C. Pack declared a miracle, and the brethren witnessed it. This keeps their attention away from his waffling about the current timeline.

@ 1:25:35 But some things have come clear. We're on track. And I I will be bringing you more. More things. You know, the next two Sabbaths, I've got them lined up and and we’ll just we’ll just see how many we go beyond that. Wink and a nod.

The wink and a nod is that he is going to blow up his own picture. Again.

Dave likes to save his vague waffling for the end of a message, after members are exhausted and anxiously checking their watches, wondering when they will be allowed to go home.

 

No longer pussyfooting around, the next week, David C. Pack wasted no time dissolving the surety of the Kingdom to Israel, arriving on December 5. Exemplifying outgoing love and concern for the curious brethren, it only took him 97 minutes to get to the point they wanted to hear from the time they drove home last week.

By this point, the prophetic waffles were stacked high.

Part 609 – November 22, 2025
@ 1:37:30 The 2,625 days is from a a a day in December or a day in February. I call it, “The Date [chuckles] in Scripture That Comes Twice.” Or “The Same Day That Arrives Two Times.”

Even when Dave formulates labels for a momentary idea, he waffles on that, unable to just pick one.

@ 1:37:54 You wonder, “What do you mean, Mr. Pack?” So, I just wanna say this ballgame, to some degree, is still tied. There’s no clear winner.

Spoken like the apostles of old. How are members not embarrassed when he waffles like this?

This is the Mr. Pack they want:

Flashback Part 602 – October 18, 2025
@ 1:50:30 Only an oracle from God or Gabriel or Christ could change my mind.

This is the Wafflin’ Dave they get:

Part 609 – November 22, 2025
@ 1:42:32 Two dates stare at us. They’ll resolve themself, even if we hafta wait past December 5th. We’ll know.Both cannot be true. One holds no meaning. Either December 5th or February 2nd holds no meaning.

News Flash: Neither Date Holds Any Meaning

When you read this, please hold all laughter until the end. This is a master class in waffling.

@ 1:42:53 Next week, in what I hope is the last sermon in the Series, I’ll give my last best estimate or guesstimate in a Bible study after the final sermon of what I think it may be. But I’m just gonna tell you the the tie will not has not broken yet. I may know in a week. And I’ll review a few things that strengthen December 5th on the last Sap–Sabbath we will come to before it. And then I’ll if if if that doesn’t happen, then I’ll come back with an enormous case for February 2nd. And we’ll have to accept the fact that it’s not a Sabbath. So, I leave you with that thought. We’re very close. You wanna know what I lean toward? Normally, I would give you a leaning. I am so 50/50, I I just you can’t even believe it. It’s hard to believe that we’re gonna enter our rest and it’s not a Sabbath. But the case for February 2nd is unbelievable.

The case for February 2 is as unbelievable as all the other 137 before it. Dave’s prophetic waffling is a tried-and-true pattern you can almost set your watch by.

People joined The Restored Church of God for the biblical precision of doctrine. But they choose to stay for a man's last best guesstimate. It seems their love for the truth has also been waffling.

 

The brethren would do well to trust in the words of David C. Pack as much as David C. Pack does. He conjured the doctrine, taught it, then waffled on its validity while still teaching it.

David C. Pack’s Pattern of Prophetic Waffling:
Dave preaches Doctrine A for hours. Then, he undermines Doctrine A for hours by stealthily introducing Doctrine B. Doctrine B is then taught for hours, even though Dave is already harboring uncomfortable suspicions and realizes before his head hits the pillow that Doctrine C is actually the truth. Meanwhile, foolish brethren falsely believe Doctrine B until Dave comes back the next week to tear apart Doctrine B with a "better" Doctrine C. More proofs solidifying Doctrine C are on the horizon, and a list of further evidence he does not have time to share is waved in the air. The following week, an out-of-the-blue Doctrine D is "proven to be inarguable," while Dave rips Doctrine C to shreds as being "impossible" in the light of the more-perfect Doctrine D. Doctrine D is immovable until Doctrine A is reestablished as "the hill I die on" with blame placed on mistranslations, forgotten verses, and irrelevant coincidences. Unless Gabriel, God, or Jesus Christ says otherwise, Doctrine A is never going to change, and there is no other date possible. Until Doctrine E falls like an anvil out of the sky and jolts Dave like a bolt of lightning while he sips his morning coffee. All the ministers agree that Doctrine E cannot budge and is as solid as a rock. But nobody considered Doctrine F.

This is the cycle of “The Greatest Untold Story!” at The Restored Church of God and why there are 609 Parts ten years running with no end in sight.

David C. Pack is a blaspheming, hypocritical liar, a false apostle, a false prophet, and a false teacher. A genuine Seventh Messenger chosen by God to end the Mystery of God would be able to do so without continuously waffling on his own ideas.

The Pastor General fulfills the scriptures, but never in ways he thinks.

James 1:8
A double-minded man is unstable in all his ways.

1 Corinthians 14:8
For if the trumpet give an uncertain sound, who shall prepare himself to the battle?

The continued uncertainty about when Jesus Christ, or the Kingdom to Israel, or the Kingdom of God, or Daniel’s 1335 will arrive “right on track” keeps some weary members stuck in their seats with the foolish wishful thinking, “Surely, this can’t keep going on like this much longer.”

The Greatest Unending Series began on November 14, 2015, when it was called “The Greatest Story Never Told!” Last week, Dave delivered Part 609 on November 22, 2025. Only those clinging to medical-grade denial believe this is almost over, divine occurrence or not.

This will never end because God is not guiding David C. Pack to teach what he does. The Holy Spirit is not inspiring his utterances. What David C. Pack teaches is manmade malarkey fueled by maniacal ego and supremely desperate hubris.

The series has become less about when the Kingdom of God will arrive and more about what Dave “is gonna do” once he is crowned King “Elijah the Prophet” David working one-on-one with the Father while Jesus Christ maneuvers “in the background.”

All the self-righteous sugarplums dancing in Dave’s head are moot until the prophetic show starts. And that exact date is to be determined. Dave may say 50/50, but deep down, he knows it is 0/0.

November 29 is Dave’s last chance to kick the can down to February to buy himself some much-needed Me-Time while clinging to the illusion of knowing anything about anything. Anticipate him proudly announcing he “was right” about February 2. It will surely come. Wait for it.

David C. Pack unsurprisingly served up another heaping pile of prophetic waffling. The only question is: How much longer are the brethren going to keep eating it?

Marc Cebrian:

See: Prophetic Waffling

 

Dave Pack On The Wisest Woman In Wadsworth

 

Dave Pack News Flash: Headquarters Couple Leaves The Restored Church of God

 

Newsflash: Headquarters Couple Leaves The Restored Church of God

David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God was a little salty last week because a couple and one other person attending at Headquarters in Wadsworth, Ohio, quit his spiritually corrupt organization. During “The Greatest Untold Story! (Part 606)” on November 8, 2025, the Pastor General lamented this “naïve” wife just “strolled away with her husband” out the door because he “broke her because she’s the weaker vessel.”

Ever deflecting and never the direct reason why people flee The Restored Church of God, David C. Pack’s fingers have not gotten tired of blaming external evils for his biblically fraudulent organization’s dwindling numbers. But certainly not the 600 sermons of malarkey.

Part 606 – November 8, 2025
@ 53:15 It's the lies and the half-truths and the misrepresentations that can cause this.

What lies, Dave? What half-truths? What misrepresentations?

Those sound like the talking points Headquarters trains the field mollusks to say when concerned members bring up documented facts and uncomfortable reminders archived at exrcg.org.

Lies are not necessary for valid reasons to leave The Restored Church of God.

Half-truths are not necessary for valid reasons to leave The Restored Church of God.

Misrepresentations are not necessary for valid reasons to leave The Restored Church of God.

If anyone wants to find verifiable facts free of lies, half-truths, and misrepresentations, please visit exrcg.org. The channel on YouTube hosts the video evidence.

@ 53:20 Think. This husband could not possibly have believed a kingdom was just weeks away. Impossible.

No discerning, critical-thinking, bible-believing person would either. The failure of Kislev 16 on December 5 is inevitable, like the 135 others before it, and is just one uncomfortable suspicion away from being disproven by the man who taught it. At that point, the couple were not rebels. They were ahead of the curve.

One of David C. Pack’s strategies is to pit husbands and wives against each other. When couples have a doctrinal issue, they try to separate them to manipulate them individually. Two men will team up to work on a woman to get her to flip on her husband. That is standard operating procedure in The Restored Church of God.

@ 1:01:24 And you can't be a pastor like I am …without weeping over people that leave.

Raise your hand if you believe David C. Pack weeps for anyone.

As an added bonus during Part 606, David C. Pack paid homage to his "father in the gospel" by explaining 23 prophetic understandings that his mentor got wrong. Herbert W. Armstrong, Pastor General of the Worldwide Church of God (WCG), was forbidden by God to understand bible prophecy correctly despite being an apostle and the Messenger to the Sixth Era who led a church of over 100,000 members for fifty years.

Dave humbly admitted there were only 23 examples because he was reciting HWA's errors without a prepared list. He confessed that there are many more.

In contrast, only Pastor General David C. Pack understands bible prophecy accurately because the Book of Revelation and Daniel have been unsealed to him. Please disregard the painful truth that he has been wrong since August 2013.

Despite being free of corporate debt, The Restored Church of God limps along without any discernible plan for the future, with no will to herald the good news of the coming Kingdom of God. No new literature. No new videos. No new advertising campaigns. No new fruits letters.

Members are aging out, and more in the Headquarters congregation have their eyes on the exits. David C. Pack will now need to ponder if that is a lie, a half-truth, misrepresentation… or a proven fact. Stay tuned.

Marc Cebrian

See: News Flash: Headquarters Couple Leaves RCG

Why Do COG Cult Leaders Brag That God Took Their Wives Away So That They Could Focus Upon The Work?

Oh, what a profoundly inspirational spectacle it was, all of us glued to our seats in rapt adoration as the magnificent Herbert Armstrong babbled endlessly after his poor wife's oh-so-convenient exit from this mortal coil. Eagerly hanging on every word as he smugly announced that the Almighty Himself had snatched her away, all for the noble purpose of letting Herb hyper-focus on his oh-so-vital "work"? There we were, brilliant as a herd of enlightened lambs, nodding along like this was the pinnacle of divine logic, straight from the heavens. The hilariously overlooked reality? Good ol' Herb couldn't be bothered to greenlight a basic, no-brainer procedure to unclog her bowels and save her life. But wait, there's more genius: he pirouettes like a pro and slaps the blame for her demise—and those stubbornly blocked innards—right onto us, the hapless church peons. The whole congregation was mired in glorious stagnation, rotting away like yesterday's compost, and naturally, it was entirely our brilliant fault. Bravo!

And lo and behold, stepping into the spotlight as the self-crowned kingpin of Herb's laughably majestic empire is none other than Gerald Flurry, yet another delightfully deranged pint-sized despot, eternally overinflating his ego with bombast and fake machismo to distract from his... adorably compact frame. After graciously allowing his first wife to wither and expire sans any real medical intervention, he too trots out the divine alibi: his all-merciful god mercifully bumped her off so he could sharpen his laser-like devotion to "the work." How utterly original!

Even the incomparable Dave Pack hopped aboard this oh-so-crucial apostolic thought train, snatching up a second wife for himself—who, by pure divine coincidence, just happened to be the nurse caring for his first wife—all to supercharge his utterly mind-boggling preparations for Jesus's glorious return to the sacred hotspot of Wadsworth, Ohio. So far, he hasn't summoned the holy guts to unceremoniously dump her like the rest of these spiritual superstars.

These paragons of humility and self-sacrifice—bless their narcissistic hearts—each proceeded to lasso in spry young brides, spinning it to the flock as an absolute necessity for propping up their earth-shattering, awe-inducing ministries with some fresh-faced vigor. Then, in a plot twist so predictable it hurts, each dumps his perky partner like yesterday's news and declares with pious flair that singleton status is the only way to truly crush it for the cause. Church of God faithful? Oh, what razor-sharp visionaries we are—veritable geniuses of discernment, or should I say, the fluffiest, most bamboozle-prone flock of dimwitted sheep to ever grace a pasture!

Exit and Support Network has this:

Members Forget What GF Said After His First Wife Died:
November 7, 2025 

 

This letter is in regards to Gerald Flurry’s second wife leaving him. 

 

The PCG is, and always has been, about a man. 

 

However, much like the liberals that they excoriate all the time, PCG members have a short memory. I know because I used to be one. 

 

I can clearly remember when Gerald Flurry said from the pulpit, shortly after his wife, Barbara, died, [September 5, 2004] “Brethren, I believe God took my wife away so that I can focus on the Work.” Likely, none of them remembered that when he took his now-ex, second wife. 

 

You can bet that the PCG is sparing no expense for Flurry’s medical care, likely administered privately at home without much fanfare. Meanwhile, “church” doctrine and counseling for members is to trust God to heal and eschew medical care. 

 

PCG members will have to do some deep reflection when Flurry dies. Their firmly held convictions about Flurry’s role and self-proclaimed offices will all vanish in the wind, just like Stephen Flurry’s high-pitched voice. –Former PCG member [Note by ESN: Read 6-11-20 letter: “Stephen Flurry’s Voice Bombards Your Senses.”] 

 

HWA Likewise Said He Could Focus More on the Work
November 8, 2025 

 

Regarding the previous letter. HWA likewise wrote that he later came to realize that one reason Loma died and was not healed [she died April 15, 1967] was so he “could focus more on the Work.” I wasn’t a member yet but receiving all the co-worker letters, Plain Truth, and other literature. I don’t remember which it was in, but I clearly remember standing in my living room reading those words that Loma didn’t like to fly and he would have to do a lot of flying now because of new radio doors opening up overseas. –[name withheld]

Crackpot Prophet: Unlike Me, Most COG Groups Are Too Stupid To Understand Daniel 11

Bow down and tremble before the all-knowing prophet, the absolute pinnacle of prophetic genius to ever bless the Church of God since Abel, Enoch, and Abraham deigned to show up on the scene. Some folks dare to whisper that Abel and Enoch were the original prophets, even if they weren't officially labeled as such in the divine HR department. Then along comes Abraham, getting direct hotline chats from God about future events, casually spreading his profound message and his, ahem, prolific seed across the globe like it was no big deal.

And let's not forget the legendary Samuel, whom God oh-so-conveniently used to drop some harsh truths on Eli about his utterly corrupt kids and the impending doom of those pesky Philistines swooping in to conquer Israel and snatch the Ark of the Covenant like it was a Black Friday doorbuster.

Fast-forward to this glorious year of 2025, and aren't we just utterly blessed—nay, dumbfounded—to be graced with a veritable parade of real, live prophets? I mean, we've got heavyweights like Dave Pack, Ron Weinland, Gerald Flurry, Alton Billingsley, and, drumroll please, the crowning jewel: our very own self-appointed, self-aggrandizing crackpot who's yet to cough up a single prophetic utterance that's even vaguely acquainted with reality. But hey, why let a little thing like zero accuracy cramp your style?

Alas, such trifling failures have never deterred the Great Bwana from smugly trashing his fellow so-called prophets and those pathetic Church of God splinter groups as a bunch of deluded, puppet-like morons too dim-witted to grasp scripture with the razor-sharp insight he alone possesses. Ah, the unparalleled perks of snagging your theology degree from that prestigious Indian diploma mill, conveniently housed in a luxurious double-wide trailer somewhere in the subcontinent. Who says God doesn't have a wicked sense of humor? Clearly, the Almighty's rolling in the aisles!

Today, this divine gift to humanity and the Churches of God decided to unleash his righteous fury on COGWA, United, and assorted other COG outfits, branding them as hopelessly ignorant fools who couldn't interpret Daniel 11 if their eternal salvation depended on it—which, according to him, it totally does. He proceeded to ridicule their interpretations as laughably shallow and utterly vapid, so disastrously wrong that they'll be blissfully clueless when the real moment arrives to hightail it to Petra, Pella, or whatever godforsaken dustbowl in the Middle East where the Great Bwana plans to lord over his flock like a desert despot.

He proclaims, with all the humility of a peacock on steroids:

Nearly all who are part of claimed and real Church of God (COG) groups such as the Philadelphia Church of God (PCG), United Church of God (UCG), COGWA, and Living Church of God (LCG) believe that their leaders understand end time prophecy.

Yet, the reality is that on many prophetic points the teachings of those groups are confused or otherwise in error. Some of their errors have to do with Daniel 11.

While many are aware of Gerald Flurry’s incorrect identification of Iran as the final “King of the South,” some may be surprised to realize that PCG, UCG, COGWA, and LCG do not understand the proper sequence of Daniel 11 nor the timing of the attacks by the King of the North.

I'm not about to inflict all of his twisted, labyrinthine interpretations that he hurls at each group like verbal grenades, but the crux of his eternal tantrum? He's still seething—positively boiling—that Rod Meredith had the audacity to ignore his brilliant insights. How dare he!

For years I tried to work with LCG on this point as they had a publication written by John Ogwyn that agreed with the sequence that I have taught–that the King of the North invades the USA and Anglo-Saxon nations prior to the invasion of the King of the South. John Ogwyn and the rest of the then LCG Charlotte-based evangelists all told me I was right about that. Yet, LCG has continued with two differing sequences that are in contradiction–which is confusing.

The Great Bwana doesn't stop there; oh no, he even takes a swing at Herbert Armstrong and the old Radio Church of God for their supposed ignorance:

Notice that Herbert Armstrong has Daniel 11:31 first, then the USA and UK getting attacked (Daniel 11:39). While it is true that the old Radio Church of God misunderstood the sequence originally, it changed decades ago–yet some (like in the leadership of PCG, UCG, and LCG) never have understood the change and still prefer to rely on an overridden tradition over the Bible.

But wait, plot twist! He then concedes that good ol' Herb eventually got it right:

From no later than 1979 until the time of his death, Herbert Armstrong correctly taught that the Great Tribulation first begins with an attack by the European King of the North, not that the King of the North first invades the King of the South.

Yet he can't resist circling back to savage LCG one more time. Ouch, that lingering butthurt must sting like a swarm of biblical locusts!

I tried to work with LCG on this for many years, and although their top evangelists agreed multiple times (and at least once it was agreed in a meeting by one of their leaders that WCG had changed its view by the 1970s to the biblical view I was advocating; they never changed their publications to reflect this.

The undisputed king of all narcissists then drops this gem, desperately wishing LCG would finally bow to his wisdom:

Since I was unable to get LCG to change while I was with it, despite agreements by its leaders to fix LCG’s errors on this point, hopefully pointing this error out again will assist them to correct it. Otherwise, this will be another area where those in LCG will misunderstand prophecy.

And for his grand finale, the Great Bwana unleashes his all-time favorite doomsday threat on every Church of God group under the sun:

One to consider is that unless they change their positions, NEITHER PCG NOR UCG NOR LCG OR OTHERS IN MANY COGS WILL REALIZE WHEN THE GREAT TRIBULATION WILL BEGIN AND THEIR SUPPORTERS WILL NOT FLEE TO BE PROTECTED IN A PLACE OF SAFETY IN THE WILDERNESS (Revelation 12:14-16). Their positions will be proven to be false.

But fear not, mere mortals! The Great Bwana swoops in like a caped crusader to rescue the day; he and his pint-sized cult alone clutch the sure word of prophecy and hoard all the truth. Prostrate yourselves before his overwhelming awesomeness, why don't you?

We in the Continuing Church of God strive to always rely on the Bible over tradition: “We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts” (2 Peter 1:19, KJV).

Remember, boys and girls, if and only if you repent and grovel at the feet of the one true Philadelphian church, you'll be doomed to never know the actual time to flee to Petra—where you'll endure a torturous 3 1/2 years of listening to the Great One drone on with his utterly fantastical, make-believe interpretations of Scripture. What a blessing!

Dave Pack: It is IMPOSSIBLE We Are Wrong...Oh, wait, we were! So, let me set another unequivocally CORRECT date...

 

Pinocchio learned a valuable lesson to not lie. Dave, not so much.

Dave Pack's incompetant god is unable to keep Dave's mouth shut. New date for JC to return

 

News Flash: 

Jesus Christ Will Return on December 5, 2025, Instead

The theological buffoonery continues at The Restored Church of God. David C. Pack’s head did not even touch his pillow after declaring that the Kingdom to Israel would arrive on December 19, 2025, before he seriously doubted his own teaching.

“Only an oracle from God or Gabriel or Christ could change my mind.” Well, not so much.

During “The Greatest Untold Story! (Parts 603 & 604)” on October 25, 2025, the Pastor General dissolved all of his most grandiose statements from the week prior by shifting the date of God’s plan kicking into action.

The Kingdom to Israel will now arrive on December 5, 2025.
Not on December 19 anymore.
It's Kislev 16, not 30. Stupid.

What was briefly "impossible, it's impossible, impossible, impossible that we're wrong,” became certain as a more sheepish and less “sure that we have it right” David C. Pack struggled to overly-explain his latest excusatory song-and-dance. Only a mature man can admit he was right about being wrong.

Even though I am just an unordained non-prophet/non-psychic, David C. Pack loves to shower me with validation and legitimacy after I wrote this last week:

In the coming weeks, Dave will get "suspicious" and "uncomfortable" about Kislev 30 and pivot to some other date for other reasons.

David C. Pack claims the Holy Spirit made him uncomfortable, and it deeply, deeply troubled him about Kislev 30. It is too bad his god is so incompetent that it cannot move Dave to keep his mouth shut and utter something truthful for once. In the meantime, members of The Restored Church of God endure more disappointment and embarrassment as the most gullible among them took this admonishment seriously:

“If anyone doubts Kislev 30 and December 19th, rouse yourself. Pull your focus together. I would say, you say, ‘I don't know if I believe this.’ Wake up, jump up, and stretch. Throw cold water on your face and take ownership of the facts. Shame on you if you do not take ownership of the facts… Don't just believe me, become convicted.”
David C. Pack – Part 602 – October 18, 2025

There are still foolish people attending The Restored Church of God who were more convicted than the wicked man who uttered the lies they ate with joy.

Shame on every enabler at Headquarters, including Bradford Schleifer, Edward Winkfield, Jaco Viljoen, Carl Houk, Ryan Denee, and the rest of those yellow-belly hirelings for allowing this theological madness to continue unimpeded.

David C. Pack is a blaspheming, hypocritical liar, false teacher, false apostle, and false prophet. Nothing will happen on December 5, 2025, because God has proven David C. Pack to be a biblical fraud.

Marc Cebrian

exrcg.org

Dave Pack News Flash: Jesus Now Returning On December 19, 2025

 

News Flash: Jesus Christ Returns December 19, 2025

Despite his waning health, David C. Pack continues to seek the prophetic golden pot at the end of his malarkey rainbow. During "The Greatest Untold Story! (Part 601)" on October 11, 2025, the Pastor General of The Restored Church of God teased that he knew the date we had all been waiting for, even though the brethren were at the Feast of Tabernacles already disappointed that the Kingdom to Israel did not begin on October 6 as Dave previously taught.

Displaying inexplicable confidence during Part 602 on October 18, Dave admitted he was "all in" on the new date for the arrival of the Kingdom, which is now finally, definitely, and certainly at the moment of sunset in Jerusalem on Friday, December 19, 2025, which begins Kislev 30. This biblical fact is now inarguable and can never be defeated. Ahem.

This 7-minute video is a "David C. Pack's Greatest Hits" for foolish self-assurance, unwavering bravado, and a case study of the depths of human self-delusion.

For those who can no longer stand the sound of his voice or lack the patience to endure a 7-minute video at 1.5x speed, here are some doozy quotes that will surely not age well in the lead-up to December 19, 2025.

• "The only way I could be dissuaded...is if God or Gabriel spoke from heaven with an oracle to tell me otherwise."
• "It's the inevitable day we would learn which day can delay no further and be sure that we have it right."
• "It's impossible, it's impossible, impossible, impossible that we're wrong."
• "This is the day I and we have waited for."
• "... there's no way it's wrong this time. [chuckles] No way."
• "I'm gonna prove absolutely, unequivocally, it has to be this year."
• "It's as unbreakable as a diamond... If anyone doubts Kislev 30 and December 19th, rouse yourself."
• "...or God ended the book of Daniel teasing us."
• "I couldn't possibly ever offer another date in their place. Could never be done. I'm absolutely all in on this date. Period. Our official position is that if all of that can be wrong, we can never know when either Kingdom arrives."
• “Only an oracle from God or Gabriel or Christ could change my mind.”

It will take something far less than this to change his mind, such as a sneaking suspicion or when Dave is mildly uncomfortable.

Some of these quotes should sound familiar because David C. Pack has been repeating them since 2013. The brethren of The Restored Church of God should know better, but they willfully choose blindness because facing the truth about the human idol they worship is too horrific to face.

Pastor General David C. Pack is a blaspheming, hypocritical liar, a false teacher, a false apostle, and a false prophet. He will be the last person in the room to realize he will never be correct about the return of Jesus Christ because God is not motivating him to teach such things, and the Holy Spirit does not guide his thinking.

In the coming weeks, Dave will get "suspicious" and "uncomfortable" about Kislev 30 and pivot to some other date for other reasons. David C. Pack's 136th failure will not tarry. Wait for it because THAT will surely come.

Marc Cebrian

exrcg.org

 

Dave Pack: God Chose Me and Anointed Me

 

Bob Thiel has been absolutely devastated to learn that God has chosen and anointed Dave Pack.  Now we know that Bob isn't so special after all! 

That is the limit of what God has done with Dave. Who knew?

Dave Pack Insults His Few Remaining Ministers

During "The Greatest Untold Story! (Part 593)" Given On September 5, 2025, David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God explains why he can't delegate some of his messages to his ministers. His "compliment" to his ministers very quickly turns into a brutal insult. He states his ministers don't contribute anything and can't because they are not chosen by God and therefore can't see what he sees in the Bible. He claims to be Elijah and states that only he can restore all things. What is the point of baptism and receiving the Holy Spirit as they teach if you can't read the Bible and see or understand Prophecy yourself?

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Dave Pack: I Am Spent!

 

David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God said that he was "spent" and could not keep his endless prophecy series going for another year. During "The Greatest Untold Story! (Part 599)," on September 27, 2025, the Pastor General admitted he was physically exhausted and alluded to other health concerns. Even though he declared again that "the Series is over," Part 600 was delivered on October 7, 2025, after the Kingdom to Israel did NOT arrive on October 6 as he had taught. exrcg.org

Why did Jesus not return on October 6? Dave Pack continues batting 0% in prophecy accuracy

 

Remember this from 2 months ago? Oh, wait, of course you do—because in the grand, never-ending circus of Dave Pack's "prophetic" blunders, every failed prediction is just a timeless classic, replayed like your favorite sitcom rerun, but with zero laughs and all the embarrassment.

Who could have ever imagined that Dave Pack was going to be wrong again? I mean, with his flawless, god-like streak of prophetic perfection that's dazzled the world for... oh, wait, zero times ever? Utterly earth-shattering, paradigm-shifting shockwaves here, folks—hold onto your Bibles!

How many of his super-duper, ultra-gullible followers will sit there all through the Feast, wallowing in yet another soul-crushing disappointment that their all-knowing, never-failing guru has "oopsie-daisied" another whopper of a lie straight to their faces? Yet, none of them will ever summon the tiniest shred of so-called "faith" to abandon Dave's magnificent mountain of steaming, gold-plated nonsense and finally escape the clown car. Bless their eternally devoted, blindly adoring little souls—may they never wake up from this dream!

Self-appointed Church of God "prophets" are all batting a mind-bogglingly impressive 0% right now in prophetic accuracy. But hey, who's keeping score in this league of legendary losers? Certainly not these spiritual superstars, who wouldn't know a hit if it smacked them with a divine lightning bolt!

How many more times—nay, how many infinite, universe-spanning eternities—does this demonic shepherd need to cry wolf before his flock realizes the wolf isn't coming... because it's been Dave in a wolf costume all along, laughing maniacally in the mirror?

He has been widely criticized—oh, the horror, the injustice!—as a false prophet based on those annoyingly nitpicky biblical criteria and his absolutely legendary track record of unfulfilled predictions that could fill a library of epic fails. According to Deuteronomy 18:22, a prophet who speaks in God's name but whose words do not come to pass is considered false. Who knew the Good Book was so unforgivingly basic? Poor Dave, victim of such unreasonable standards! 

Pack's predictions often claim to be tied to Hebrew calendar dates, biblical feasts, or current events, but they consistently fail and get revised. Some specific instances include:

2020-2021: Predicted Joe Biden would "never serve a day in office" (December 26, 2020), and claimed Christ would enter RCG's building undetected (March 31, 2020). 

 

2022: Multiple dates like Tammuz 1, Av 10 (August 7), Elul 1, Tishrei 1 (September 23, Feast of Trumpets), and Cheshvan 1. 

 

2023: Dates such as Tevet 21 (January 14), March 6, April 1, May 5, June 18, July 1, September 29 (Feast of Tabernacles), and December 22. He declared doubting 2023 as the year was "practically a faithless attack on God’s word" (September 9, 2023). 

 

2024: Predictions for April 8/9 (Abib 1), June 16 (Pentecost), July 7 (Tammuz 1), October 3 (Tishrei 1, Feast of Trumpets), and December 16 (Kislev 16). 

 

2025: Dates like January 29 (Shevat 1), March 29 (Abib 1), June 1 (Pentecost), July 1 (Tammuz 5), and September 23 (Tishrei 1, Feast of Trumpets). As recently as July 19, 2025, his ongoing pattern of setting Monday deadlines that fail. 

 

Oh, sure, Pack has occasionally played the humble card by denying he's a prophet at all—like that gem on June 7, 2025, where he proclaimed, "I’ve never claimed to be a prophet," as if we all forgot his endless stream of "divine" proclamations. Or that hilarious vow back on April 27, 2019, swearing he'd never set another date again... right before he kept right on doing it, because why stop the fun when the failures are piling up so spectacularly? And when those oh-so-reliable prophecies inevitably flop like a lead balloon, he trots out the most creative excuses imaginable: God apparently lets errors slide just to "test faith," or the whole mess was a clever "ruse by God" to bamboozle the doubters. How convenient—blame the Almighty for your own epic blunders!

Dave, ever the modest soul, positions himself as the undisputed king of prophetic wisdom, humbly claiming titles like "Apostle" or the biblical "Elijah" who's single-handedly restoring all truth before Christ bothers to show up. Because, you know, no one else in history could possibly measure up to his genius. His sermons are chock-full of these modest highlights:"

I’ve studied prophecy, I know this, like no man who’s ever lived" (November 28, 2015)—wow, move over, Moses; Dave's got this covered! 

 

"There’s no way we’ve got this wrong" (March 15, 2023)—famous last words from the guy who's been wrong more times than a broken clock. 

 

Claims of personal immortality: "So, I know I don’t die. A couple places say that" (April 27, 2024)—immortal, you say? Must be why his predictions keep dying instead.

 "God, quite literally, could not tell us or He would make Himself a liar" (January 9, 2016), or casually describing God as willing to "slaughter babies and behead them" (October 12, 2023)—because nothing says "loving deity" like turning the divine into a horror movie villain to prop up your failing shtick.

In the end, isn't it just heartwarmingly inspiring how David C. Pack keeps the prophetic dream alive—one spectacular face-plant at a time? With a track record that could make even Nostradamus blush in envy (for all the wrong reasons), and excuses so divinely creative they'd make God Himself chuckle, Dave stands as the ultimate beacon of unwavering "faith" in the face of endless, hilarious failure. Here's to the next 82 botched predictions; after all, who needs accuracy when you've got an immortal ego and a flock too devoted to notice the wolf in shepherd's clothing? Keep shining, you false prophetic superstar—you're batting zero, but hey, at least you're consistent!