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Sunday, January 18, 2026

RCG/Dave Pack Newsflash: The Kingdom Comes on March 18, 2026! Oops. Let's Change That to February 2. Uh Oh. I Really Meant February 1.

 


RCG/Dave Pack Newsflash:

The Kingdom Comes on March 18, 2026!

Oops. Let's Change That to February 2.

Uh Oh. I Really Meant February 1.

David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God enjoys the thrill of finding the day that cannot tarry after ten long years of toil and disappointment. Ever-rushing to call out recycled malarkey, the Pastor General is mentally and physically exhausted as he continues to hunt his religious white whale across the stormy seas of Bible prophecy.

Dave knows that unless he can deliver the goods by nailing down the date for the arrival of ANYTHING biblical, he is just another wacky former Ambassador College graduate with a non-credentialed degree in outdated theological tomfoolery.

Just like his doppelgänger, Gerald Flurry, unless he accurately discovers the real start of the Kingdom to Israel, or the Kingdom of God, the return of Jesus Christ, the beginning of the 1335, or actual worldwide calamity, he will need to face the reality that he is not a prophet, not an apostle, and God had nothing to do with the decades of his blowhard meanderings.

With each prophetic failure, the picture must shift to continue the illusion of legitimacy. Keeping brethren perpetually on the hook, he and his enablers sell the concept that their journey's end is just over the horizon. They just need to hang on and endure one more shift in understanding.

The Kingdom Will Come on March 18, 2026!


Dave was all piss and vinegar, stewing in his spirit-inspired certainty during “The Greatest Untold Story! (Part 615)” on January 3, 2026, when he landed back on Abib 1 for the fourth year in a row. 

Part 615 – January 3, 2026
@ 00:42 Only when all competing dates passed before the last possible date can you have full confidence a date cannot tarry.

@ 07:58 But I do know absolutely and completely when the this Kingdom [7-year] comes, and we're gonna go home knowing that much today. Absolutely. I waited, I was suspicious, I've been suspicious. And I'm gonna show you we finally are gonna reach the date where it's impossible that it's wrong, and you'll know that.

It must give the brethren the warm fuzzies when Dave gets all absolute about his current belief. Here are words Dave likes to say that never age well:

@ 13:17 But I I will I will stake everything on what I'm gonna tell you…

@ 13:40 How about it's about time to say the 7-Year Kingdom begins when all the others did on Abib 1. So if you want to write it down, put down March 18th.

He went on and on and on about how March 18 was the day they had been waiting for. Abib 1 is “the day that cannot tarry,” because this one is as hard as diamond, and the brethren will be “absolutely unable to doubt March 18.”

The brethren were unable to doubt it longer than Dave was because he shifted his tune the following week during “The Greatest Untold Story! (Part 616)” on January 10.

The Kingdom Will Come on February 2, 2026!


Dave started off with manipulative word games to lull his worshipers into a false sense of security.

Part 616 – January 10, 2026
@ 01:06 We are seven years for a kingdom right here [7 glass on table]. In that regard, March 18th is locked with 1335 days thought to be within it. Abib 1 is a hard date. But it's the fifth day of a week. Aren't we to look for a third day?

David C. Pack is the master of mixed messages, blending reassurance with the introduction of doubts to lead his audience into seeing things his way. He chips away at his own teaching from the previous week and takes 37 more minutes to get to the punchline.

@ 38:24 There wouldn't have been a 1335 in their mind because we're learning that's fiction. We have it wrong. We're not waiting for March 18th. We're waiting for 45 days before that.

Dave returns to a three-kingdom structure, convolutes the 1335, 1290, and 7-Year Kingdom, then invents a "clever" nickname for the 45 days before March 18, “the Sour Grapes Kingdom.”

David C. Pack has no qualms about taking the Lord's name in vain each time he puffs his chest, claiming God's authority.

@ 51:53 The 1335, on God's authority, I'm telling you, is not in the in the seven years. If it is, we could never know it. It would be utterly contrary to all the things I've told you.

He serves up humble pie to smash in the members' faces.

@ 1:09:11 I don't take any credit. I couldn't possibly figure any of this out without the help of God.

David C. Pack figured nothing out. When he soon abandons the 45-day First Kingdom before it gets close, he will refuse to consider how many times he spoke in God’s name while teaching it and gave God the credit for putting it in his head. He can never face the implications of doing this for ten years running.

After fear-mongering about Venezuela, Cuba, and Colombia with a ridiculous "society is collapsing" proclamation, Dave tied the timing of world events to the proximity of the Kingdom's arrival.

@ 1:32:27 It can't go on. We're looking for a year where 45 days before an Abib it's a Tuesday. Or, if you will, a Monday night or if you will, a Monday morning here when it's Monday night, sundown in Jerusalem. Remember, you touch 1335. But just touch it. That'd be a Monday morning. February 2nd.

You know the drill by now. Dave will get suspicious, feel uncomfortable, make a startling discovery that changes everything, and set a new date that is certain to fail.

For those keeping score, February 2 and March 18 in chronological order will be David C. Pack's failures 139 and 140. The countdown timer is running on exrcg.org.

 

 

The Kingdom Will Come on February 1, 2026!

Update: During “The Greatest Untold Story! (Part 617)” on January 17, 2026, David C. Pack changed his story again and moved the date for the start of the Kingdom to February 1.

Part 617 – January 17, 2026
@ 01:23 It's critical we stay with proof of mid-Shevat. …you're gonna learn that February 1st replaces February 2nd. So, we're not waiting for Monday morning, February 2. We're waiting for Sunday morning, February 1. There's huge, massive proof of that. For now, until I can get to it, for now, just rejoice we’re a day closer.

The members of The Restored Church of God are no closer to David C. Pack being right than they were one week ago or ten years ago. He is a blaspheming, hypocritical liar, a false teacher, a false apostle, and a false prophet. With the abundant documentation of his deceit and failures, it is foolish to believe anything the Pastor General says.


Marc Cebrian

See: RCG/Dave Pack Newsflash: The Kingdom Comes on March 18, 2026! Oops. Let's Change That to February 2. Uh Oh. I Really Meant February 1.

Tuesday, January 13, 2026

Alton Billingsley: US and Israelite Nations To Be Destroyed In 2026

 



The Church of God is positively bursting at the seams with so many self-appointed, truth-challenged false prophets these days that keeping score is getting downright exhausting.

We’ve got Dave Pack, whose “Christ” is apparently making a special detour to Wadsworth, Ohio, just to squeeze in a quick shopping trip at the Giant Eagle. Then there’s Gerald Flurry, waiting for his version of Christ to show up in Edmond, Oklahoma, ready to be crowned King of Kings on some ridiculous chair with a grimy rock from Oregon shoved under the seat. And let’s not overlook Ron Weinland, the pioneering Church of God prophet who achieved the rare distinction of becoming a convicted felon. All of them are batting a solid, unwavering .000.

Don’t forget Alton Billingsley’s legendary 2021 prophecy masterpiece—truly groundbreaking material… if you happen to enjoy predictions that come with a complimentary industrial-sized salt shaker. (Every other “prophecy” this man has ever made has crashed and burned so spectacularly that failure might actually be his spiritual gift.) And of course, he remains faithfully devoted to his royal collection of qualifiers: “possiblies,” “maybes,” “could-bes,” and the timeless classic, "God delayed this prophecy because the church was not ready".

Truly the same prophetic bloodline of brilliance shared with that other global heavyweight of almost-truth, Bwana Bob Mzungu Thiel—Africa’s leading authority on things that almost, kinda, sorta, maybe could happen… eventually… probably not.

Possibly close to the Passover, April 4, 2023, will begin the famine to last for three and one-half years that God in heaven above is bringing on His people, the House of Joseph, America and Britain, and other tribes of Israel.

Prophecy also makes known the devil will release Assyria-Germany from the bottom- less pit. Therefore, bringing into existence the Holy Roman Empire sometime during the year, 2024.

Then the severity of the famine, with pestilence, Covid 19 mutating into the black plague, will commence destroying America in particular—then the same to come upon the other Israeli nations in 2026! All this is to be followed by nuclear warfare (Ezekiel 5:12)—with the lone exception of Judah. Her fate will come later.

Before all this, there will be a civil war, 2024-2025 (Jeremiah 51:46 "... Violence in the land ruler against ruler....") Could the civil war begin because of the possible assassination of President Trump? Something momentous will have to happen to trigger it! The civil war will start before the finality takes place. Details will follow in other writings.

This year, 2023, will lead into unparalleled and frightening times! This nation and the world are presently asleep to what will soon befall them, similar to the pre-flood world of Noah, and Sodom and Gomorrah (Luke 17:26-30 "... so will it be in the day when the Son of Man is revealed ...").

May God have mercy. The Ezekial Watchman

The cover letter had this: 

This is a cover letter for the Ezekiel Warning Messages to begin appearing monthly on the Church of God Faithful Flock Website-Warnings from God's use of His promised Elijah of the end-time to a people who have rejected and forgotten their God.

In view of Prophetic Biblical teachings, connected with major disastrous events, now occurring, and projected to worsen on a national and international scale over the next few years, strongly implies Jesus Christ will be standing on this earth in the year-2029. This is eight years from now, 2021. How quickly time flies!

They also make known this nation is in mortal danger of being destroyed, as a nation, along with Britain, and other nations of Israel, in the year 2026-no more than five years from now, 2021. Prophesied to be destroyed by a super-power far greater than America.

Though it has not yet appeared, it is prophesied to be fully developed by the year-2024. This is only three years from now, 2021. 

 

In the end, the modern-day Church of God movement has produced an unbroken parade of self-proclaimed prophets whose batting average sits at a pristine .000.

Every. Single. One.

From the granddaddy Armstrong-era offshoots right down to the current crop of internet-enabled dreamers, the track record is depressingly consistent: bold proclamations, confident timelines, dramatic “Thus saith the Lord” declarations… followed by the sound of crickets, goalpost relocation, spiritualized reinterpretations, and—when all else fails—the classic “it was fulfilled spiritually, you just didn’t have eyes to see it.”

Scripture is brutally clear on the matter: one failed prediction and the claim of divine authority collapses like a house of cards in a windstorm (Deuteronomy 18:22). No appeals to “human frailty.” No partial-credit mulligans. No “close enough for prophetic work.” One swing-and-miss = false prophet. Period.

Yet here we are, decades later, still watching the same tragic comedy repeat itself with new characters and slightly updated websites.

The conclusion is painfully obvious:

It is long past time to stop giving these men platforms.

It is long past time to stop treating their fever dreams as divine revelation.

And above all—it is long past time to stop giving them your money.

Because every dollar sent to a proven false prophet isn’t supporting “the Work.”

It’s subsidizing the next round of embarrassing, date-setting, fear-mongering failure.

The true church of God has never needed a parade of prophetic pretenders to survive.

It certainly doesn’t need them now.

Walk away.

Keep your wallet closed.

And let the modern false-prophet industrial complex finally starve for the attention and cash it no longer deserves.

The scoreboard doesn’t lie.


Sunday, January 4, 2026

Dave Pack: I Am God's Private Detective-His Private Investigator




One thing that's glaringly obvious in the glittering paradise of COGland is that the assorted "gods" the pompous Church of God overlords have custom-ordered for themselves are hands-down the most laughably incompetent deities ever slapped together by mortal daydreams. I mean, honestly—why do these divine superstars always turn out to be such spineless, bumbling, utterly powerless disasters?

Let's start with Herbert's god, shall we? The one "miraculously rediscovered" in the thrilling aisles of an Oregon public library after a whopping 1,900-year nap. Picture this: an allegedly all-powerful creator of the universe so catastrophically useless that he couldn't even manage to safeguard his own sacred word from getting misplaced like a forgotten grocery list. And when HWA finally heroically rescued him from obscurity, he was so mortified by the sheer mediocrity of the fellow that he dared not utter his real name—instead settling for the oh-so-epic "a strong hand from someplace." Truly the stuff of legendary reverence.

Then we have Gerald Flurry's god, that exquisite Frankenstein monster stitched together from HWA's wildest hallucinations and Flurry's own deluxe delusions. This pathetic specimen is such a monumental underachiever that it couldn't get by on the Bible alone—oh no, it desperately required two shiny supplemental books (Mystery of the Ages and Malachi's Message) just to patch up the glaring holes. And brace yourself: this supposedly omnipotent ruler of everything is apparently too feeble to head straight to Jerusalem for the grand New Jerusalem reveal. Instead, it must first touch down in glamorous Edmond, Oklahoma, for a tacky coronation ceremony on a creaky garage-sale throne, clutching a filthy lump of rock excavated from... Oregon. Forget the breathtaking splendor of Westminster Abbey and the authentic Stone of Scone—this cosmic loser has to make do with a glaring spotlight on the Armstrong Auditorium stage as Gerald's grandchildren dance an Irish jig. How utterly divine.

But wait, the real MVP of divine incompetence has to be Dave Pack's god—a hopeless, flip-flopping clown who can't even commit to a return date in Wadsworth, Ohio. Week after endless week, year after embarrassing year, this alleged almighty fails spectacularly to float down in thunderous glory, strut across Dave's "sacred" manicured lawns, or mount Dave's prized pale horse. Poor, bewildered Dave, forever scratching his head over the eternal no-shows, has gallantly promoted himself to God's personal detective to crack the case. Yet all that "genius" sleuthing has accomplished zilch, leaving Dave perpetually clueless and looking like the ultimate fool as one "absolutely set in stone" deadline after another fizzles into oblivion. Just imagine the tragedy—all those blockbuster sales this god has tragically missed at the Giant Eagle right across the street! Heartbreaking, really.


Wednesday, December 31, 2025

Dave Pack: Mentally Ill People Do Not Deserve Anointing


 

Exit and Support Network featured yet another damning letter about the Restored Church of God and its self-important "ministers." 

Anyone who's survived the nightmare of Armstrongism knows all too well the group's antiquated traditional view: mental illness? Pfft, that's just demons squatting in your brain. Real spiritual warfare, don't you know. Only a handful of ministers ever dared whisper otherwise without fear of being labeled Laodicean heretics themselves.

And let's not forget Armstrongism's stellar track record—decades of smugly diagnosing anyone who dared stray from their narrow definition of "normal" (read: conformist, white, middle-class, hyper-obedient) behavior as "demon-influenced." Depression? Demons. Anxiety? Demons. Questioning Herbert W. Armstrong's endless failed prophecies or his lavish lifestyle? Definitely demons. Non-conformity in gender roles, sexuality, or even emotional expression? You guessed it—straight to demonic possession territory.

This wasn't some fringe quirk; it stemmed directly from HWA's teachings, which banned medical intervention (including psychiatry) in favor of "divine healing" through anointing and prayer alone. Doctors were suspect, psychologists were gateways for Satan, and mental health issues were spiritual failures or outright infernal attacks. The result? Countless members suffered in silence, denied proper treatment, shamed into hiding their struggles, or worse—exorcised like something out of a bad horror flick. Suicides, breakdowns, and shattered families piled up, all while the ministry patted itself on the back for "discerning spirits."

In offshoots like the Restored Church of God, this toxic legacy lingers, blending control, fear, and pseudospiritual arrogance. Because nothing says "God's true church" like ignoring modern medicine and blaming invisible boogeymen for brain chemistry. How godly.


I came across your website and just had to get this experience published. I have a daughter who is in her early thirties who has suffered with mental health issues for most of her life. About 9 years ago, I started exploring Restored Church of God’s website & watching David C. Pack videos. 
 
I tried contacting David Pack to get prayer and/or a healing cloth for my daughter. I was not able to speak to Pack but they put me in touch with one of his ministers in the Chicago region. I don’t remember his name. I spoke to this minister on the phone 2 or 3 times but also emailed with him several times, mostly about my daughter’s need for healing. After a month or so, he said he would have to speak with David Pack about getting an anointed cloth sent out to me for my daughter. 
 
About 2 weeks later, I received an email from this local minister. I was informed that he had spoken with David Pack & his colleagues (or whatever they are) from headquarters in Wadsworth, Ohio regarding my daughter’s mental health issues and need for healing. The email said that David Pack instructed him to email me and inform me that God does not get involved with helping “mentally ill” people and therefore they would NOT be sending me an anointed cloth. After that email, I never heard from him again. That response sounded crazy to me. Where on earth did that come from? Rhetorical question, of course! –Impacted by RCG

Sunday, December 28, 2025

Dave Pack And The Tevet 10 Escape Hatch


 

The Tevet 10 Escape Hatch

Much like when a bully shrinks back when opposed by someone of courage, David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God proves to be the consummate coward in the face of his own prophetic declarations as the time draws near.

Part 613 – December 20, 2025
@ 1:57:39 Some of the biggest and most powerful proofs of Tevet 10 I haven't even hinted at.

You can add those “most powerful proofs of Tevet 10” to the long list of things Dave will never finish. He invented mathto reinforce the strength of Tevet 10 (December 29), being the day the Kingdom arrives. The now infamous "A, You Know, It's Kinda in in a Way, it's a Form of of Math, I Guess. Um. Is it Algebra?” formula only lasted one week.

The RCG members who were “probably certainly possibly totally convicted” one week ago have egg on their faces today. But they can let it slide onto the massive pile of waffles Dave just served them.

During “The Greatest Untold Story! (Part 614)” on December 27, 2025, David C. Pack installed bright lights leading to the Tevet 10 escape hatch by announcing to the brethren that there are three other candidates for a Kingdom arrival after Tuesday passes.



David C. Pack claims to be an apostle. He is Elijah. He is the Seventh Angel. He is inspired by the Holy Spirit. God uses him to end the Mystery of God by rushing to call it out by making it plain.

He is all of those things except when it matters.

The All-Believing Zealots must have been supremely disappointed once they got near the end of Part 614 when their human idol rained on their parade. Those still bothering to pay attention picked up on the Daveisms near the start.

Part 614 – December 27, 2025
@ 02:30 So we're looking right now at the possibility of a Monday night, but we'd hafta know the day. We'd have to know the day of the week to know the applicable year.

@ 03:33 Three accounts plainly declare the Kingdom to Israel begins in the third day of a week. We’re coming to a Tevet 10. If Tevet 10 is the right day, that just happens to be the third day.

This does not sound like a church leader spelling out his “biggest and most powerful proofs of Tevet 10.” Instead, Dave is undermining the foundation he built the week before.

Skip ahead one hour and seventeen minutes.

@ 1:20:44 You know, I've I've rushed to make plain and to end the Mystery of God. So I'll now be I'll now be, you know, I try to be as open-hearted as I can, to conclude with a few final comments.

Dave not only opens the escape hatch for Tevet 10, but he perpetually insulates himself into the vanishing point.

@ 1:21:02 No date that I've ever seen seems impervious to challenge. They're just not a dent in it. And there are two more dates. …One is very powerful. And it’s on the third day of the week. Believe me, I and my team and a circle of men I talked to, have been conflicted. [chuckles]

@ 1:22:03 These other cases have grown over the years for a period longer than Tevet 10, which was just over a year ago, where I’d waiting for that to mature.

Tevet 10 did not muh-tour, Dave. It fermented and should have remained a pile of notes at the bottom of your briefcase.

Mr. Wishy, I would like to introduce you to Mr. Washy.

@ 1:22:19 I do expect the Kingdom Monday. Monday night. Monday morning, our time. But as much as I do, I'm duty-bound to tell you about the other dates, and they leave me conflicted. I'm almost–I expect it, and I don't.

That is the perfect definition of being "double-minded." But make no mistake: He does not expect it. Not for a moment.

David C. Pack is a hypocritical, blaspheming liar on top of being a false teacher, false apostle, and false prophet. He knows nothing will happen on Tevet 10, but he tries to save face. This is a ploy to avoid accountability. In RCG, it works every time.

@ 1:22:39 It's not like any other time we've ever been in before. Both the dates are strong, but in different ways.

We have seen this before and before and before. Since 2013. Tevet 10 and the other options are no different. Only the All-Believing Zealots refuse to remember.

@ 1:23:11 They are either mimicking Tevet 10 or Tevet 10 is mimicking them. These men are all conflicted between Tevet 10 and a later date that is also on the third day of the week. And I'm just gonna tell you that case is immensely strong. And it is not Tevet 10.

This escape hatch leads Dave to the “I Was Right” Lounge next week.

 

 

@ 1:23:57 I've talked with the men, and we've all we've all agreed that God has left us with what could what we have we’ve come to call in a circle of us “strategic ambiguity.” Maybe He doesn’t want us to know.

So much for apostolic authority and confidence.

If God does not want Dave to know, why does Dave persist and press and push onward?

Instead of Dave’s sermons being “God-breathed knowledge,” spoken during holy time on the Sabbath, he admits it has been the effort of a man desperate for legitimacy and relevance.

If God does not want Dave to know, then what is the point of “The Greatest Untold Story!” Series? What is the point of teaching something that God does not want known and actively prevents you from understanding it? Does that not mean Dave is a rebel fighting against God’s will?

Why does Dave’s god inspire him to teach these things, but at the same time, does not want him to understand? Because David C. Pack worships and preaches a god of madness.

@ 1:26:40 Only when all subsequent competing dates die away beyond any last possible one can you have full confidence a date cannot delay. I I wish I could tell you Tevet 10 has no no competitors. But it’s not true. But it's not true. If a powerful case sits before you, but a big one sits behind it, the more immediate one is harder to believe. That's why I'm conflicted.

Dave is moved by the Great Discomforter.

@ 1:29:41 It's kinda like next batter up. I'll tell you a case. It's just unbelievably powerful that's not far beyond Tevet 10. But there's no point in getting into it other than preparing you ‘cause I don't want you to be brokenhearted. I love you, brethren. I mean, I don't like to be brokenhearted either. “Oh no, it didn’t come. And that was our only–“ It isn’t the only option.

Nothing will occur on Tevet 10. He knows this and has already said it.

David C. Pack is not capable of bravely facing any date without opening the prophetic escape hatch while clutching a large plate of biblical waffles.

He is a biblical fraud, a human idol, and will never be correct about prophetic timing. There is no way for him to escape that.



Marc Cebrian

See: The Tevet 10 Escape hatch




Wednesday, December 24, 2025

Dave Pack Newsflash: The Kingdom Comes on December 29, 2025 (Tevet 10)


Newsflash: The Kingdom Comes on December 29, 2025 (Tevet 10)

David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God dropped December 5 and 19 like hot potatoes when he post-retroactively touted Tevet 10 as the real day that cannot tarry that he had been stewing on for a year.

During “The Greatest Untold Story! (Part 612)” on December 13, 2025, the Pastor General hinted that Tevet 10 had been on his mind for twelve months, but he uncharacteristically kept his mouth shut about it. The following week, during Part 613, he unleashed “only about half” of the proofs proving the Father will bring the Kingdom to Israel at sunset in Jerusalem on December 29, 2025.

The present truth of Tevet 10’s significance is so convincing that Dave held up three single-spaced legal-sized pages that contained over 100 proofs he did not have to the time to go through.


Part 612 – December 13, 2025
@ 13:46
 And I'm really not gonna talk about it today. But I added and added and added to this list of things, single-spaced, things that related to this day. And it's almost infinitely more important than we ever realize. There's a there's 64 things on one page. Here's another 40-some and more. And I kept adding to it for now a year and three days. I waited to see if it would mature.

More like Dave waited to see his other doctrines fail due to the sheer pressure of time.

@ 14:21 So I'm today planting a seed. I hope it's THE seed of what might be. This year, Tevet 10 is December 29th.

December 29 is only a few days away, folks. Please plan accordingly.

@ 45:44 I've never heard anybody, for regardless of what Tevet 10 means …ever talk about a day that has a name that's to be engraved in our minds and is written five times in the Bible, and it's Tevet 10. Nobody. Took me a long time to figure out what I thought I was seeing.

Dave has not figured anything out. But that did not stop him from donning his Inspector Clouseau garb during Part 613 on December 20. His timidity was peppered throughout the two-hour message.

Part 613 – December 20, 2025
@ 01:02 My task is to be God's detective. His, well, shall we say, private investigator. And, I I think I've been trained enough by this time in such things to hopefully get it right.

David C. Pack is a blaspheming, hypocritical liar, false apostle, false teacher, and false prophet. He will never "get it right." That is, unless the coincidences keep stacking up.

@ 25:59 The month of Tevet began in Jerusalem at about 9:30 this morning. So, is it a coincidence that I'm talking about it right as we're coming into this date at the end of 614 sermons and ten years and three months length?

It is not a coincidence that he planned and prepared to speak about a date that was about to happen. This is not magic or a divine fiat. Dave made it happen.

Part 613 was a "greatest hits" of Dave's terrible traits: Pointless lists, non-coincidences, manufactured math, timid caveats carefully worded to avoid the responsibility of future failure, and putting the burden on the brethren to “prove” his nonsense.

The topper was his “my job” declaration, designed to remove accountability for when brethren have to avoid another round of New Year's Eve party invitations.

@ 1:39:37 My job is not to declare Tevet 10. My job is to declare the facts without bias. I've been wrong before. So if you if you're sitting out there, “Mr. Pack says Tevet 10,” well, you don't need to worry about it, because that's all you're counting on. You don't need to worry about salvation.

The most sinister part of Dave's tactic is the "If you don't believe me, you will not get salvation" play that he has used many times before.

@ 1:39:56 You’ve gotta you lock in. Now, if I'm wrong, then I'll come back [chuckles] and I'll tell you I'm wrong. There are other candidates out there beyond Tevet 10 that are that are, I'll I’ll just say, enticing.

Dave chuckled because he already knew he was wrong. But he is just playing the game. He sprinkled breadcrumbs for brethren who still bother to pay attention. The All-Believing Zealots ignore those flags.

I suspect the waffling wiggle room will fully manifest during Part 614 this Sabbath if there is not a preemptive, dream-crushing CAD email to soften the embarrassment of retiring all those single-spaced pages.

The last few sentences of his two-hour message had the intent of sounding confident, but screamed that Dave knew the brethren were not buying it.

@ 1:57:27 While you are probably certainly possibly totally convicted, consider one more time that you've heard a bit over half the case for Tevet 10. Some of the biggest and most powerful proofs of Tevet 10 I haven't even hinted at.

Please write in the comments if you have ever been “probably certainly possibly totally” about anything. Bonus points if it relates to a biblical doctrine.

With Tevet 10 looming on the horizon, here is one hilarious example of what passes for inspired, apostolic knowledge in The Restored Church of God.


@ 35:11 Now I want to take you to a certain formula. We're gonna put some verses together. I call it “A, You Know, It's Kinda in a in a Way, it's a Form of of Math, I Guess. Um. Is it Algebra?” You know, I've explained in the past, if A equals B and B equals C, then C equals A. A equals B and B equals C. They're the same thing. Then, C equals A. And you could keep going. If A equals B, B equals C, C equals D, D equals E, E equals F. Then, F equals A.

Prepare for nothing prophetic to happen on December 29 and for David C. Pack to dissolve that doctrine before the date comes. Tevet 10 will be his 138th failure since August 30, 2013.


Mark Cebrian

See: News Flash: The Kingdom Comes on December 29, 2025

Saturday, December 13, 2025

UCG's John Elliott: Do not fall for the trickery of leaders who seek a following due to church governance, church eras and other unique teachings

 

Beware of false prophets [teachers], who come to you in sheep’s clothing [profess sound doctrine], but inwardly they are ravenous wolves [they will cost you your life]. You will know them by their fruits [the resulting mindset] (Matthew 7:15-16)

...remain vigilant and never fall for the bait of carnally promoting individuals 
seeking a personal following with their own special twist. 
Christianity is about Christ! It is not about temporary human servants. 
Nor is it about a special corporation.

Jesus never warned that we should be in some specific church era, 
or be in a church with a special leader, 
or have a specific form of governance, 
or a certain corporate name, 
or a special hidden doctrine. 
I implore you to find even a hint of such instruction in anything Jesus ever said! 
He warns that trickery will abound 
and mortal danger will lurk in the most unlikely places.


John Elliott, President of the United Church of God (UCG), published a letter on December 11 about not allowing yourself to be swayed by wolves in sheep's clothing who seek to lead members astray. 

Is this a swipe at the craftily spoken words of Bob Thiel, Ron Weinland, Dave Pack, and Gerald Flurry?

For some in the Church of God (COG) groups, these men present their "truths" as divinely inspired by God and can too easily sway less-grounded members in their beliefs. 

Elliott writes:
 
Greetings fellow ministers and brethren, 
 
How seriously do you consider your place in the Body of Christ? Am I wholeheartedly a part of the Body of Christ? Jesus Himself implores us to make factual assessments about our spiritual condition in His letters to the seven churches (Revelation 2-3). 
 
He also warns us not to get swayed by influential people who promote mindsets contrary to His truth. “Beware of false prophets [teachers], who come to you in sheep’s clothing [profess sound doctrine], but inwardly they are ravenous wolves [they will cost you your life]. You will know them by their fruits [the resulting mindset]” (Matthew 7:15-16). 
 
Compare everything you hear from anyone with what God’s word instructs you. Be alert for slick manipulation using human logic that garners sympathy for the unfairly treated, complains about personal injustices, spouts accusations against brethren, while diverting us away from following Jesus Christ and His appointed authorities. Such are the tactics of wolves (Jude 8, 11-12). Such prideful minds are in stark contrast to Jesus’ admonitions for self-abasement, humility, service, sacrifice, honoring others, pursuing peace, unity and love.

Elliott claims he is not zeroing in on any specific individual, but Weinland, Thiel, Pack, and Flurry all feel those outside their groups are borderline apostates, and that is their job to lead people back into the truth (that they exclusively have) so that they can achieve salvation. 

I am not pointing fingers at any individual, rather I'm emphasising the biblical principles necessary for us to be responsible with our opportunity for salvation. Paul stated of our time, “But evil men and impostors will grow worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived. But you must continue in the things which you have learned and been assured of, knowing from whom you have learned them, and that from childhood you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus” (2 Timothy 3:13-15).

God constantly observes and monitors each of us in hopes of bringing us into His Kingdom. “The LORD is in His holy temple, the LORD’s throne is in heaven; His eyes behold, His eyelids test the sons of men. The LORD tests the righteous, but the wicked and the one who loves violence His soul hates” (Psalm 11:4-5). 
 
God does not support those who do “violence” to the brethren by spreading lies and rumors. “These six things the LORD hates, yes, seven are an abomination to Him: A proud look, a lying tongue…a false witness who speaks lies, and one who sows discord among brethren” (Proverbs 6:16-19). He also says, “I, the LORD, search the heart, I test the mind, even to give every man according to his ways, according to the fruit of his doings” (Jeremiah 17:10). 
 
We all need to humble ourselves, repent of our own sins and mistakes and seek God’s forgiveness, as we forgive others. May God help us all to love Him above all else and to love each other more than we love ourselves. 
 
I encourage you to remain vigilant and never fall for the bait of carnally promoting individuals seeking a personal following with their own special twist. Christianity is about Christ! It is not about temporary human servants. Nor is it about a special corporation. In all situations we are to follow Christ and be of His Body. 
 
In John 12:26 we read: “If anyone serves Me, let him follow Me; and where I am, there My servant will be also. If anyone serves Me, him My Father will honor.” Christ’s shepherds only follow Christ and encourage others to only follow Him! Only then can any human be an asset to another’s salvation. 
 
Jesus never warned that we should be in some specific church era, or be in a church with a special leader, or have a specific form of governance, or a certain corporate name, or a special hidden doctrine. I implore you to find even a hint of such instruction in anything Jesus ever said! He warns that trickery will abound and mortal danger will lurk in the most unlikely places. 
 
Notice the context of Christ’s statement to us about the challenges of the pathway to His Kingdom: “Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it. Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits” (Matthew 7:14-16). 
 
The stakes are high for every member. Each of us are responsible to be alert, discern God’s will, and recognize those faithfully upholding God's word. 
 
As you enjoy the Sabbath and are refreshed by it, take time to consider the seriousness of your calling. Meditate on what you truly stand for. Define the fruit you are trying to grow in your life. Then, let these words guide you on your path: 
 
“Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling; for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure. Do all things without complaining and disputing, that you may become blameless and harmless, children of God without fault in the midst of a crooked and perverse generation, among whom you shine as lights in the world, holding fast the word of life, so that I may rejoice in the day of Christ that I have not run in vain or labored in vain” (Philippians 2:12-16). 
 
May God bless you along with all His faithful children, as we humble ourselves and submit to His will. And may we deeply love loving Him, and love one another sincerely, 
 
John Elliott, President

It does a great disservice to church members if church leaders do not take a stand and call out the various crackpot COG leaders and their borderline heretical teachings. A true leader will label these teachers as the wolves in sheep's clothing that they warn about. 

I have heard some in UCG, LCG, and other groups stating that they do not call these false leaders out because they are "brothers in Christ, but with different interpretations". They are NOT your "brother in Christ"! If you know these guys are wrong, then it behooves you as a leader to all them out for their false teachings.


Hatip to Feastgoer for the heads up.



Sunday, December 7, 2025

"...the importance of being a members of continuing church of God and proof that Dr Bob is chosen at this age"



Behold! The majestic Great Bwana Doctor Robert Thiel, the self-anointed end-time leader of the Continuing Church of God in Africa (because, let’s be honest, those pesky Caucasians just weren’t gullible enough to fall for his shtick anymore). The Bwana has graciously published three glowing fan letters from his two most “faithful” African evangelists. And the first thing you’ll notice in about 0.2 seconds is that these so-called evangelists are evangelists for Bwana Bob™ and his glorious personality cult, not for that obscure fellow named Jesus Christ, who—shocker—doesn’t get a single mention. Not one. It’s almost as if the Son of God is just an inconvenient background character in the Bob Thiel Cinematic Universe.

But why stop there? Isn’t it just precious how all four of our most delightfully aberrant Church of God splinter fĂĽhrers—Ron Weinland, Gerald Flurry, David C. Pack, and of course, our own Bwana Doctor Bob—have unanimously decided that the gospel is just too boring? No, no, the real good news is them: their magnificence, their exclusive God-ordained prophet-apostle-elijah-witness-whatever title of the week. Never in the history of Armstrongism have we been blessed with so many desperate, theologically bankrupt little men frantically trying to devour the carcass of Herbert Armstrong’s movement from the inside like starving hyenas in tailored suits.

All four of these titans of ego place their number-one priority on proving how staggeringly right they are and how God personally Zoom-called them to do whatever narcissistic nonsense they’re doing this month. Jesus? Oh, He gets the occasional drive-by mention—one or two of them toss His name around like a stale matzo at Passover so they can still pretend to be Christian for five seconds. But deep, profound teaching on the significance of Christ, the resurrection, and what it actually accomplished? Please. That would require taking the spotlight off themselves for more than thirty seconds, and we can’t have that.

It positively infuriates them that Jesus came to shatter the chains of legalism and the filthy rags of works-righteousness that COG leaders have used to keep their members in bondage for nearly a century. How dare the Messiah ruin their little control-freak empire! The nerve of that Guy.

The Great Bwana Doctor Bob has these comments from his evangelists:

Greetings from Malawi.
It’s of a great pleasure to inform that my meeting with the leaders in Malawi meant a lot to both Malawi and Mozambique. We discussed a lot about leadership, congregants, the importance of being a members of continuing church of God and a proof that Dr Bob is chosen at this age in leading church of God. I also teach a lot why we are in continuing church of God. What the Bible says about who is to lead now and what kind of work is he suppose to do.
We also discussed much about the kingdom of God. Ordained feasts, the true repentance and what massage continuing church of God is delivering.
The brethren were shocked and spoken a lot when they confirmed that biblically, continuing church of God is in front to fulfill Mathew 28:19.

Lastly I asked so many questions why they are in continuing church of God.
They gave many reasons why they are in continuing church of God and why they are sealed in the truth. 
Evans Ochieng

Another letter: 

We kept sabbath in chikwawa where I met many people. The service was wonderful. I tried to encourage people to know the reason why they are in continuing church of God. And why continuing church of God is very important in their lives and I delivered to them the massage that God’s church is carrying to this age. I also explained to them why it’s only important to be sealed in the truth. 
 
Many people are walking blindly not knowing why church of God is there and who is in control. People must know why Moses was chosen, why Joshua was chosen after Moses and why Armstrong was chosen. And who is chosen now.

Why gospel must be preached and to who. Reasons for repentance and reconciliation. The importance of congregants. The conformity of God.
The race in the book of revelation.
And where are we in the prophecy.
Evans Ochieng

And another: 

Greetings,yesterday Evans was at Mogowi church the one am leading, he preached very powerful teachings than ever had before and his teachings was like the world was ending yesterday,brethren enjoyed his teachings and we are much blessed with his coming,none of us will forget his teachings and some brethren told me that they even dream at night his teachings which means the Lord God a sure his people that the teachings was full with the truth,he also told the young ones to prepare the youth camp meeting with will start on 23 December to 28 December 2025, we are praying for it.
Sosten Libungwa 
 
It’s positively heart-wrenching to realize that the brethren shuffling into these splinter shrines are mostly sincere, lovely folks who just want to follow Jesus the best their hearts know how. And there they are, dutifully sitting in pews while their “ministers” bloviate for hours about how Bwana Bob (or Dave, Gerry, or Ron, depending on the group) is the only human on Earth God trusts with the real truth™. These precious sheep are being spiritually muzzled, guilt-tripped, and financially milked by leaders who are evangelists for Bob/Dave/Gerry/Ron and their magnificent prophetic resumes, not for that irrelevant carpenter from Nazareth who apparently doesn’t rate a single sermon anymore. Truly, the compassion these leaders show is so thick you could spread it on matzos and still have enough left over to choke on.

How noble. How Christ-like. How utterly nauseating.

Saturday, December 6, 2025

Dave Pack: HWA Did NOT Understand Anything! Only I Understand All Truth

 



23 Things Herbert W. Armstrong Got Wrong

Pastor General David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God (RCG) 
paid homage to his "father in the gospel" by explaining 23 prophetic understandings that he got wrong.
 
Herbert W. Armstrong, Pastor General of the Worldwide Church of God (WCG), 
was forbidden by God to understand bible prophecy correctly, despite being an apostle 
and the Messenger to the Sixth Era who led a church of over 100,000 members for fifty years. 

There are only 23 examples because the Pastor General humbly admitted he was reciting HWA's errors without a prepared list. He confessed that there are many more. In contrast, only Pastor General David C. Pack understands bible prophecy accurately because the Book of Revelation and Daniel have been unsealed to him. 

Please disregard the painful truth that he has been wrong 
about the return of Jesus Christ 135 times since August 2013. 

All credit to former member Marc Cebrian for this clip and description

Friday, December 5, 2025

Gerald Flurry: It Was A Crap Shoot When God Sent Jesus To Earth, Because If He Sinned Then God Was Going To Be Lonely

 


Oh, bless their little cotton socks, another day in COGland, where the bar for batshit craziness gets raised higher than Gerald Flurry’s bar tab. At this point, you’d think we’d all be numb to the nonstop clown show put on by these self-anointed apostles, but nope, every sunrise brings a fresh opportunity for one of them to strap on the red nose and oversized shoes.

You see, God the Father apparently works the night shift, frantically beaming “new revelation” straight into the pickled brains of His favorite franchise owners. Bob “Dreamy McProphet” Thiel gets herbal-tea-fueled nightmares, Dave Pack’s imaginary Jesus has been stuck in Wadsworth traffic for three straight years because even the Second Coming can’t find parking, and then there’s His Royal Tipsiness, King Gerald Flurry, who’s built a whole compound in Edmond, Oklahoma, because obviously that’s where the New Jerusalem is landing (sorry, Independence, Missouri, better luck next apocalypse).

But today Gerald Six-Pack Flurry, spiritual heir to a throne polishers everywhere, has outdone himself. Fresh from the bottom of whatever bottle inspired this gem, he has solemnly declared that Jesus Christ could have sinned while on earth. That’s right, folks: the same Jesus who was supposedly God in the flesh apparently had a very real shot at blowing the whole salvation plan by, I dunno, coveting His neighbor’s donkey or flipping off a Pharisee one too many times.

And if that had happened? Poor God the Father would’ve been left all alone up there in the starry void of the “northern heavens” (the part of space that’s mysteriously missing stars ever since Lucifer redecorated during the Great Heavenly Bar Fight of eternity past). Just one lonely Dude, sitting on an empty throne, swigging celestial whiskey, muttering, “I should’ve gone with Plan B… or literally any other son.”

Truly, the theological brilliance pouring out of Edmond these days is staggering. Herbert W. Armstrong is surely looking up from wherever he is, nodding proudly and saying, “That’s my boy, completely hammered and making it up as he goes, just like I taught him.”

Thank heavens Armstrongism isn’t the only crazy cult on the block, or we might actually have to take this nonsense seriously.

A God from the northern heavens came to Earth and became flesh and blood, risking the loss of eternal life. FAILURE WOULD HAVE LEFT THE FATHER AS THE ONLY REMAINING GOD FOREVER.

Spend more time and ponder what failure would have meant to our Father—the rest of eternity spent as the only God in the universe! Then you can better comprehend the kind of love He has for His creation

Can we fathom this loving sacrifice by God? This universe-shaking truth challenges our imagination. We are the recipients of this unparalleled act of love.

An “eternal life,” which was God, the Word, came and died for us. This ought to excite mankind beyond anything we can imagine. It was the beginning of what will probably become billions of sons in God’s Family.

BECAUSE WE TEACH THIS GOD-ORDAINED MESSAGE, WE ARE ALMOST GLUTTED WITH NEW REVELATION! THIS SHOULD SHOW US WHAT THIS MESSAGE MEANS TO THE FATHER AND THE SON. Revelation comes because we honor our Father and Husband.

Flurry coninues with this:

The goal of our work is to bring all humanity into fellowship with the Father and Son! Please read that again.

The Ephesus Church members quit doing God’s work because they lost their first love. The Laodiceans today stopped doing this work because they became blind to this vision. Anybody who fails to see why we do this work is blind!

We are the very elect of the firstfruits. Soon the whole world will be filled with second-fruits from the fall harvest. All mankind will have one mind, one faith, one love and one hope. Each person will be a witness for God!

Than this:

Herbert W. Armstrong College is here to get this message to the world. This message is for the whole of mankind. It produces the opposite of the negative fruits you see in Satan’s world.

The Laodicean Church members broke down in this area. Satan destroyed their desire and strength to be witnesses. Then they no longer wanted to declare the Father’s message.

We are declaring John’s message as quickly as we can. The job of our ministers is to help get our people 100 percent behind God’s work—so we can complete this work as speedily as possible. We are in THE LAST HOUR! We must work while we can, BEFORE this world is plunged into the Great Tribulation.

We must see that this message is everything to a dying world! It must be declared now—in this “last hour.” It is a message from the Logos, who was with the Father.

God sent an Elijah to restore all things. It was an astounding message not heard around the world for almost two millennia!

And from the early college days to the end, Mr. Armstrong had outstanding, God-inspired spokesman clubs. There were research and writing classes. The students were not there just to learn the message. They were also taught how to deliver it, both in this age and in the Millennium.

In Herbert W. Armstrong College, our students are taught how to write and speak like kings and priests. We have a message that must be communicated to all humanity!

Receiving God’s message is just half of the responsibility. The second part is communicating it. And what a communication job! This message must be delivered to every person ever born!

What good is the message if it is not declared and taught? What a failure if we don’t deliver our Father’s message! What a calamity. Now is the time to be a witness for God.

The world is full of violence and ready to explode into nuclear warfare. And America’s strongest messages to the world is the filthiest, Satan-inspired trash ever seen and heard!

At the same time, we ignore the Creator God who prophesies throughout His Word that He punishes for such despicable sins. Even the most violent terrorists can see and are offended by our unparalleled immorality. Surely we must believe that God would also be offended. But our people don’t care. We have descended into a kind of spiritual madness. Only the worst kind of punishment can ever awaken us. The Great Tribulation is going to be the worst suffering ever. The punishment fits the crimeNever was there a greater need to awaken!

More proof that these morons have no concept of what Jesus accomplished. 

The magnitude of the opportunity offered by our unparalleled technology makes our nations’ failure to take advantage of it incomparably disastrous. The whole world suffers mightily because of that failure. Never has there been a greater need for God’s message of hope.

We must give this world the only message that really matters. We will show them how to use the media.

Years ago, when the Soviet Union was strong, the Japanese were asked who they feared most. They answered that they feared Russia most militarily, but they feared America most culturally. (If only we could see ourselves as others see us.) And they had good cause for that fear. Today the Japanese are saturated with America’s vile culture. Our culture is destroying us and other nations morally and spiritually. We prate about how good we are and sing “God Bless America”—but God is cursing America, Britain and the Jews in the Middle East. He will continue to do so until we see our black sins and repent.

The Philadelphia Church of God has bought and paid for 170 acres and all of our buildings. What is it all for? We are getting ready to help Christ rule this world and the universe!

God has blessed us mightily. Now He wants to fire our imaginations to see what a marvelous, mind-staggering future this world has. We have the greatest, most complete message God has ever given to declare!

It is like these COG leaders deliberately mock Bob Thiel as the irrelevant fool that he is and his worthless message. 

Like John, we must never lose this awesome vision of love! Then we must be a witness for God. This is what the world so desperately needs.

Nothing screams “Philadelphia Church of God = Era of Brotherly Love” quite like the warm, fuzzy kind of love that rips families apart faster than a Black Friday sale at Walmart.

It’s the special, patented Gerald Flurry brand of love™ that heroically severs parents from children, grandparents from grandchildren, and spouses from each other, because apparently the quickest path to godliness is making sure nobody ever speaks to their blood relatives again. Who needs holiday dinners when you’re excommunicated for sending a birthday card to your disfellowshipped daughter, right?

And let’s not forget the cherry on top: that same suffocating, guilt-drenched “love” has been so inspirational, so life-affirming, that it’s driven more than a few precious PCG sheep to the ultimate escape hatch: suicide. Because when you can never, ever measure up to the ever-shifting, booze-fueled standards of King Six-Pack and his revolving door of “new revelation,” what’s the point of sticking around for another sermon about how you’re a worthless Laodicean worm?

Truly, the Philadelphia Church of God is a shining beacon of agape love, the kind that leaves shattered families, empty chairs at Thanksgiving, and fresh graves in its wake. 

So yes, by all means, keep spreading that signature Edmond-style love, one “mark and avoid” letter, one disfellowshipment, one funeral at a time. Truly heartwarming stuff.

And when the final trumpet finally blares (assuming Dave Pack’s imaginary Jesus ever figures out the correct Wadsworth exit ramp), God the Father can kick back in those lonely northern heavens, crack open a cold one, and enjoy the silence. Because thanks to the PCG’s stellar track record of turning potential “mini-gods and godlets” into estranged wrecks and suicide statistics, that celestial family reunion is going to be standing-room-only for exactly one Dude.

Just Him, an empty throne room, and an echo whispering, “Should’ve gone with the Mormons; at least they let you keep your kids.”

Well played, Gerald. Well played. The only thing you’ve successfully birthed into the Kingdom is a support group for traumatized ex-members and a waiting list at the Edmond liquor store. Cheers to that legacy.