Saturday, July 5, 2025

Dave Pack: You can be praised if you lie under the right circumstances




5 comments:

Anonymous said...

Is it always wrong to lie? Not all laws are of equal importance. Jesus said that the greatest were to be loyal to God and to act towards others in a loving way. There are absolutes, but not all absolutes are equal. The midwives who helped Israelite mothers lied to their Egyptian masters. Rahab lied to protect the lives of spies. You can lie to protect the life of others or if you think the truth will be used for evil purposes. This is graded absolutism. Now HWA lied to protect the Work of God. In his mind, it was ethical. Others would say he lied to cover the sins of the leadership and to protect his empire. Is it always wrong to lie? Would you lie to save a life?

Lee Walker said...

The Decalogue point says not to “bear false witness against your neighbor.” Doesn’t say anything about lying to an ENEMY in the context of a battle (examples cited above; also, David’s wife lying to protect him from Saul, and Tamar lying to protect yourself from her half-brother). You can’t lie to or about them in a regular court trial, though, because he is considered simply a neighbor with whom you have a grievance (Prov 18:17). So lie to the Gestapo officer to hide Anne Frank, but don’t lie about the officer to the war crimes court at Nuremberg.

Anonymous said...

What a confusing word salad of Dave's weird justification of himself and his totally false, misleading and bogus teachings over the past years. Dave's mental issues and personality disorders are showing now that he seems, for now, to have run out of false prophetic steam.

Anonymous said...

Thou shalt not lie.

G.D said...

John 8:44
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it!

Interestingly, the father in context, followed by the Pharisees, was Yahweh, the God of the Old Testament. What can you expect with David Pack and all COGs deceived into following such a deity?