James Malm: Is It Sin To Eat The Ox In The Ditch On Saturday?

Malm comes up with some real mind-bogglers every once in a while and this is that time.

It seems a group of COGWA member decided to have an ox roast at a Church members farm this past summer.  What better way for a small group of people to fellowship than around a shared meal.  There is one problem with this picture for the Apostle Malm and his acolytes.  These idiots (in Malm's eyes) apparently cooked this ox on the sabbath and every TRUE believer knows that no one is to cook anything on Saturdays. Even worse Malm accuses these members of digging the ox up from the pit on Saturday.  Oh they misery! Oh the sabbath breaking!

The Malm writes:

This year 80 people from at least five different states attended the annual ox roast held on June 30, 2012, at the Harper farm in Parkersburg, West Virginia. Not even the furious derecho (ugly storms with tornado-force winds), power outages and low gas levels could keep the determined ox-eaters away this year. Despite the lack of electrical power, everybody enjoyed themselves, the ox and the fellowship.

Services began when Ron Kelley, the guest speaker who pastors the Greensboro, Hickory and Raleigh, North Carolina, congregations, asked the attendees if they had a fire in their belly.

Then local pastor Bill Jahns gave a sermon about confronting the challenges of life.

After services were over, everyone prepared to eat! When the ox was finally out of the ground, where it had been roasting in a fire pit, everyone was able to partake of the excellent food. There was no doubt in the minds of anyone attending that this year’s ox roast was a great success! Josh Travers

After using Isaiah 1:13-20 to beat them up with he has this to say to the apostate sabbath breakers.

The people who trample all over God’s Sabbaths and sin by compromising with the commandments of God are at best lukewarm for God and his law and at worst complete apostates.

Jesus Christ is going to spue such people out of his body and corrrect them until they repent.

Repent quickly my dear friends, the beloved of the Lord; lest he correct you and turn your pride into angish.

Malm's small group pf acolytes are equally appalled at the sickening behavior of these COGWA members:

Very fitting that it was an ox. Literally throwing an actual ox in the ditch so that they could pull/dig it out and then eat in on the Sabbath.

Another adds:

James, I see this sentence was inserted in your posting about the ox roast, “On the Sabbath, they dug a pit and roasted an ox in it”. Now, I see some of that sentence in the caption of the picture in the article, but not the ” on the Sabbath” part. You inserted those words, which is misrepresenting. In my knowledge of how this process works, all the preparations are made on Friday; the ground is prepared, the meat layered, etc. in the ground where it cooks all night and into the day. It is removed and served at the meal. Careful attention must be given to what is stated, contrary to what that implies to you, lest you influence through deceitful words.

Apostle Malm responds accusing them of digging the meat out to eat.

Your concern to detail is appreciated. However they had no concern about the impression they were giving that ALL of this was on Sabbath, so should not be startled if they are seen as doing this on Sabbath when they implied that they were. It is up tp them to clearly state what they are doing in order to abvoid any appearance of sin. 

And this does not mitigate the deed of digging the meat out and breaking the command against the matter Lev 16:23 And he said unto them, This is that which the Lord hath said, To morrow is the rest of the holy sabbath unto the Lord: bake that which ye will bake to day, and seethe that ye will seethe; and that which remaineth over lay up for you to be kept until the morning. James

Another acolyte is incensed at these sinners actions so The Malm responds:

Even if they did make all the preparations on Friday, it cooked on the Sabbath, which is still prohibited. How clear does it have to be? It is one of the “loopholes” created by Jewish tradition to think that, so long as the cooking fire was started before Sabbath that it is then ok to cook on it….really?

This was buried in the earth. It was not only cooked, it was dug out of the earth on Sabbath.

The Malm is so pissed at COGWA and UCG that he has this to say about how God is going to destroy them in his soon coming tribulation.

It is COGWA and UCG etc, that is wickedly sinning in shopping on God’s Holy Time and polluting God’s Sabbath. As God destroyed Israel for polluting the Sabbath; he will also destroy COGWA, UCG, LCG and the other corporate COG Groups [in the very soon coming tribulation] for committing the very same sins. James

Thiel: Pray and Fast For The Lesser of Two Evils To Be Elected

Bob Thiel has up a ridiculous posting today encouraging LCGers to pray and fast that God places the right person in office.  Thiel feels both men are evil and that God apparently is going to place in office the lesser evil one. 

Armstrongism has always had a love/hate relationship with voting.  HWA was against it and the diehard followers still are to this day.  They are appalled that some other COG groups do allow voting, or at least leave the matter up to the individual.  There has been discussions on Facebook recently about UCG members who said they vote.  Some condemned them for doing it saying the Bible told them not to.

The Church also allowed voting when it came to local concerns that would have an effect on the local community.  This allowed WCG members to run for office in Big Sandy and eventually helped allow the sale of alcohol in the area.  On a side note: It's funny how you can't mention the name Church of God without alcohol getting into the mix.

Bob Thiel writes:

Tomorrow is the US presidential election.  If Christians are not supposed to vote, what should we do about leaders?

Pray for them!

Therefore I exhort first of all that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks be made for all men, for kings and all who are in authority, that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and reverence. For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior (1 Tim 2:1-3).

Notice that we are to pray for worldly leaders and those that have authority over us so that we may lead a quiet and peaceful life.

Both candidates have promoted various forms of evil, and as I wrote before Voting for the Lesser of Two Evils is Still not Good (for specific details by candidate, please see the article Romney and Obama on ‘Social Issues’).

Many people, however, apparently are not satisfied with the biblical admonitions to trust God to chose political leaders.  This is not new (1 Samuel 8:6-7).

And while I can certainly understand that people often feel that they should do more, people often forget that God inspired Jeremiah to write:

O LORD, I know the way of man is not in himself; It is not in man who walks to direct his own steps (Jeremiah 10:23).

 Of course there are those reprobates and wanton sinners in the Church of God who do vote, always have and always will.  Thiel has this to say to them:

Some of those that vote seem to forget what God said:

“For My thoughts are not your thoughts, Nor are your ways My ways,” says the LORD. “For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So are My ways higher than your ways, And My thoughts than your thoughts…”(Isaiah 55:8-9).
‘This decision is by the decree of the watchers, And the sentence by the word of the holy ones, In order that the living may know That the Most High rules in the kingdom of men, Gives it to whomever He will, And sets over it the lowest of men.’ (Daniel 4:17).

It may be of interest to point out that Jesus suggested that people would take matters in their own hands thinking that they are doing God a service (John 16:2).  And while this referred to killing, the principle is still that one should not violate what God instructs and justify it by thinking that God wants one to.

Bob also wants you to know that whoever gets voted in will lead to the decline of this nation and is soon coming occupation by Germany:

No matter who wins, I believe they will lead a nation in decline and will almost certainly increase the rate of ultimate decline of the Anglo-American powers.   The USA needs true repentance and neither candidate has really called for that.  God can decide who, when, and why we should get particular leaders.

Since we are getting closer to the time of the end, I believe that tomorrow’s winner (even if it is not clear tomorrow) will help fulfill the following:

12 As for My people, children are their oppressors, And women rule over them. O My people! Those who lead you cause you to err, And destroy the way of your paths.” (Isaiah 3:12)
16 For the leaders of this people cause them to err, And those who are led by them are destroyed (Isaiah 9:16).

Thiel wants to make if very clear on what he is doing.  As the Official face of the Living Church of God, he has to set the right example for the wayward LCGer who might have dared to vote.  I know quit a few in LCG who do vote and will ignore Thiel's advice. As they should!