Child Rearing Dilemma: Whether to Stone or Spank Rebellious Kiddies

Armstrongites always love to boast that they take the Bible literally.  The fact is they don't.  They lie when they say they do.  They pick and choose what they want to do when they want to do it.  One year it may mean one thing and the next it is ignored or fluffed off as not relevant.





GTA taught that beating kids was a good thing. Flurry and Meredith also want their members to spank their kids.  Meredith in particular, gets off on the spanking bit.  When he brags at a feast site several years a go about spanking his current wife, you know something is not quit right in that mind of his.

Today Six Pack Flurry has a post on his Philadelphia Trumpet web site about child discipline. After doing the typical Armstrongite proof-texting of using old testament angry go scenarios he makes the following comment:

"Follow God’s example. Be clear about the rules. Speak only once, and expect your children to obey. Pay attention—and when they deviate off course, don’t make excuses for them. Be consistent about applying the necessary discipline." (Armstrongism translation:  "Beat your child when it disobeys") Speak Only Once

Six Pack has also had this to say:

". . . We have always understood in the Church of God, in respect of correcting child behavior, that this means a light instrument which stings when applied but does no physical damage. Mrs. Armstrong used the table-tennis paddle as an example of an implement which will do no harm to a child when applied with care and in love. But even that should never be used till the infant is around two or three years of age. Light, stinging taps first with fingers on the backside of an infant, then, as the child grows, carefully, with the hand, should suffice till then."

"Lesson number one is, teach the child GOVERNMENT! That's where it starts. Who's boss around here? Up to the second or third month, the infant gets what he wants usually when he's good and ready to get it, by simply demanding it! But, comes the time he demands, doesn't get, and reacts angrily! Generally, parents should be able to determine an angry baby's cry. It's time for baby to learn that angry demands are not acceptable."

Royal Vision May/June 2000

ESN had this comment about Sx Packs child rearing techniques:

One former PCG member (12-20-03) described to the police authorities how some congregations in PCG have engaged in so called "screaming sessions" at children. This involves taking a child (who has misbehaved or presumably done something wrong), along with gathering a number of members together, and then sitting the child on a chair in the middle of the room and screaming and yelling at the child for a long period of time. Sometimes these sessions go on for so long that some of the adults have to take a break and then go back to continue it. This is a technique that abusive, totalistic groups have used and is very damaging to any child!

If old Six Pack had his way, his churchs' teachings for methods of child discipline would fall under the arms of the Reconstructionists/Dominionists.

Reconstructionists/Dominionist sincerely preach that stoning of children, gays, adulterers, fornicators, etc is the way to go.

BIBLE REQUIRES DEATH BY STONING FOR 'REBELLIOUS' TEENAGERS, SAYS PA. PREACHER

Mercersburg Activist Insists Bible Mandates Execution

The Bible mandates death by stoning for rebellious teenagers, according to a Pennsylvania preacher and Religious Right activist.

The Rev. William O. Einwechter's article, "Stoning Disobedient Children," appeared in the January issue of Chalcedon Report, a monthly journal published by the Chalcedon Foundation in Vallecito, Calif.

In the article, Einwechter cites Deuteronomy 21:18-21, which advises parents to take "a stubborn and rebellious son" before city elders to be stoned to death if he will not change his ways.

Einwechter's viewpoint drew criticism from church-state separationists.

"Rev. Einwechter reminds us all of why we need a clear separation between religion and government," said the Rev. Barry W. Lynn, executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, a Washington, D.C.-based watchdog group. "I doubt if most Americans think we should turn America into a fundamentalist Christian version of Iran."

Einwechter says the death penalty should be applied to "a grown son (and by extension to a daughter as well) who, for whatever reason, has rebelled against the authority of his parents and will not profit from any of their discipline nor obey their voice in any thing."

Writes Einwechter, "[T]he execution of the rebel in view is just, merciful, and preventive. Just, in that the transgressor deserves to die; merciful, in that his quick death prevents the destruction of the family, society, and others; preventive, in that it strikes fear in the heart of other would-be rebels and restrains them from taking a similar ruinous course."

The Chalcedon Report is the leading publication of the "Christian Reconstructionist" movement, the most extreme contingent of the Religious Right. Reconstructionists reject democracy and believe Christians should take "dominion" over American society. Under their version of "biblical law," the death penalty would be required for over a dozen offenses, including adultery, homosexuality, witchcraft and spreading "false" religions.

Although the movement's numbers are relatively small, its ideas have often filtered into other Religious Right groups.

Einwechter, a Mercersburg, Pa., resident, is vice-moderator of the Association of Free Reformed Churches. He also serves as vice president of the National Reform Association, a Pittsburgh-based group that advocates Christianity in government.

For decades we had some numbnuts in Pasadena who actually believed this type of 'child rearing'.  They looked forward to the day when the 'kingdom' would get here and they could do this.  It was going to be their job and the job of the church (OCG) to root out evil in the people.  The best way to root out evil was to kill the person.  God did it so why shouldn't they!

Meredithism and Six-Pack Flurryism get rather giddy when it comes to spanking.  They both seem to get off on corporal punishment.  Of course they get off on it because their little god they find in the Old Testament gets off on killing rebellious people. That's they god they identify with.

Here is The Brick Testament's version of the story:

When to Stone Your Children

Dedicating the House of Herb, Crossword Puzzles and Piggies

Looking through one of Six Pack Flurry's web sites this evening geared towards the youth was a stomach turning event. More lives being destroyed!

Read the articles in the student newspaper about the dedication of the new monument to Herbert Armstrong.   

  Imperial Standard

Once the audience of approximately 800 people was seated in the theater at 7 p.m., music instructor Mark Jenkins began the ceremony by leading the first performance of his Dedication Anthem and Fanfare, composed for the occasion. Mr. Turgeon and college president Stephen Flurry both briefly addressed the members, and Mrs. Paula Malone, backed by the dedication choir, sang House of Prayer with her husband, music department head Mr. Ryan Malone, leading the orchestra. Finally, Chancellor Gerald Flurry stepped up to the podium to deliver a short address and give the prayer of dedication. He spoke to those assembled about the purpose of the auditorium and said that this house for God would serve to bring harmony to the world.

Afterward, the choir and orchestra performed two pieces from Felix Mendelssohn’s Elijah, “Holy, Holy” and “And Then Shall Your Light,” to conclude the ceremony. Choir members and audience members alike were astonished by the difference between the dedication performances and earlier performances and practices. Senior Jordan Aldrich commented, “I think the choir sang more powerfully than we ever have before.” His sentiment was echoed by many other choir members, including freshman James Brandon, who said it was “overwhelming” and “incredibly inspiring” to be part of the choir.”

After the ceremony, the brethren were abuzz with fellowship and excitement about the house for God and the new stage of the work it signified. Sophomore Katherine Harmon was representative of the general mood when she said, “Probably the thing that affected me the most was when Mr. Flurry gave his dedication prayer...the fact that something like that is something that I could hear personally

Then there is the photo of students and faculty playing soccer.  Guess the names of the teams - wait for it - take a wild guess ------ Team Ephraim and Team Manasseh!  Ephriamites and Mannasites

SIBLING RIVALRY As faculty defenseman Mr. Brad Macdonald looks on, senior Steve Hercus puts a mighty Ephraimitish boot on the ball as Manassite forward Victor Vejil approaches. Team Manasseh won the contest 1-0.

Can Armstrongism get any stupider than this?   Oh wait ----- Yes, they can!  Check out the HWA Crossword Puzzles for a Sabbath afternoon.....

 

You too can break the Sabbath and do this interactive crossword puzzle.  Herb's Crossword Puzzle

See how much you worship all things Herb.

Or, for an extra added bonus you can read  The Truth About Pigs with this great illustration:  :-)

I think it is time hit the Honey Baked Ham store.  I am going to buy one in honor of Six Pack!  A ham sandwich and a cold beer - - as good as Armstrongism can get!

When Will Slick Wille Ever Learn?

With over 290 documented failed prophecies of Armstrongism you would think the various Armstrongite splinter cult ministers would stop making such predictions.

Willie Dankenbring sticks his head out and makes some stupid predictions that are guaranteed to fail:

Now, I’ve been thinking that the final seven years could well be from fall of this year 2010 Feast of Tabernacles time going forward 7 years which will be the year 2017. Or if we count spring to spring from 2011 forward seven years, it will be 2018. So with either a fall to fall or spring to spring reckoning we then have 220 days which is seven months with 30 days to a month which gives us 210 days within that 7-month period.


Today, we have the movement toward one world religion again with world religious leaders coming together to forge a one world religion under the beast with the Pope claiming supremacy of power (Revelation 13). So the coming event of a great apostasy, beginning with the 220 days after the 2520 days is the beginning of a great apostasy which will culminate in the return of Christ and the Temple of God being restored once again, cleansed and purified by the Messiah. That means that a lot is going to happen this coming year of 2011.


But when will the prophecy begin to unfold and be fulfilled? Notice! Many prophetic timelines indicate that the second coming of the Messiah could occur in fall of 2017 or spring of 2018. Thus Daniel’s “70th week” – the final seven years of this present pulsating, tremulous age – would begin fall of 2010 or spring of 2011.


Depending on whether we use spring-to-spring or fall-to-fall reckoning, this event could occur about seven months after fall of 2010 (i.e. around Passover-Pentecost 2011), or fall 2011 (October-November 2011).

This would be true, if the second coming of the Messiah is in fall of 2017, or spring of 2018. Certainly, this is something to seriously think about, ponder, and pray about.