Monday, November 7, 2011

"Narcissistic Tyrant" Spits and Yells at COG Elder and Wife



Dr. Bob has a little blurb on his "News of those once affiliated with the Global Church of God" page about a minister from Dave Pack's cult who was berated for over two hours for calling out Pack on his claim of being a High Priest like Jesus.

Then like the old WCG, Pack disciplines the man and his wife and then threatens all kinds of legal action.

If these splinter cult leaders were truly doing God's Work then they would not need to worry about complainers, dissidents, blogs, web sites, etc.  But since they know they are morally bankrupt they have to resort to all kinds of scare tactics, threats and intimidation.


I appreciate you sending this News. I'm a former minister of the RCG who was disfellowshipped and fired in June for accusations about Zec 3 and being accused of calling David Pack's counsel of elders "filthy rags" - Joshua's filthy garments - and I also disagreed with his claim to be a High Priest an office held by Jesus Christ. My wife and I were harangued for two hours by this vain narcissistic tyrant who cares little for those of age and whether or not he destroys their lives, and I have evidence that he has done the same to many others...My wife also work at RCG headquarters as a volunteer for over 15 months without even a thank you.

I hold no animosity toward David Pack or any of his ministry, I came to see that the work he is doing is about vaunting himself as well as coning his members with clever sermons, into disposing their assets in favor of RCG so he can build an empire. He claims an apostleship which is false he claims to follow Mr. Armstrong, but simply took his literature embellished it with his own thoughts and ideas and palmed it off as truth. Mr. Pack is a clever man who knows his Bible well, he has used this wisdom, to do a work that on first appearance looks like the real thing, but over time one wakes up to the realization of what Paul warned about in II Cor11:13 that it is simply a work of the flesh he he will bear the consequences of his actions.

My hope for him is that God will show him exactly what he is, what he has done and what he is doing, so he to may have the opportunity of facing Christ in the not to distant future and enter into the kingdom of God. I can send you all the correspondence I have emails, back and forth, an agreement they wanted me to sign as well as a letter from RCG attorney to substantiate what I have told you, of course you understand once you post what I send, you will receive an email from Jeffery Ambrose denying, or justifying my disfellowship and firing from RCG...

Church Porn Publishing



Prophet Thiel is excited that the Catholic Church has been exposed as owning a book publishing company which had a side adventure in publishing porn.


COGwriter
The Vatican has a new scandal to deal with:
Germany’s biggest Catholic-owned publishing house has been rocked by disclosures that it has been selling thousands of pornographic novels…with the full assent of the country’s leading bishops.
The revelations made in the publishing-industry newsletter Buchreport concern Weltbild, a company with an annual NZ$3bn turnover and 6,400 employees. It is Germany’s largest bookseller after Amazon and wholly owned by the Catholic Church.
Buchreport revealed that Weltbild’s massive assortment of titles available to customers online includes some 2,500 “erotic” books…

How convenient for Prophet Thiel to forget to mention that his own mother Church, The Worldwide Church of God also  owned a publishing company (Everest House) that published books on sex, witchcraft, gay relationships, and Quest Magazine.  Quest was supposed to be HWA's gateway into governments around the world as a magazine devoted to the best in the human potential of humanity.  Stories with nudity, porn, witchcraft and all kinds of others things anathema to the WCG were included in the magazine.



Thiel goes on to write:

Harlots do things of a sexual nature for money and sadly this is what it looks like happened in Germany by officials of the Catholic Church (cf. Revelation 17:4-5).

I would be a little careful about calling the Catholic Church a harlot considering the track record of COG officials who were/are sleeping their way around the church, swapping wives, having gay orgies, taking drugs, were/are alcoholics and myriads of other things.  His own apostle was seen coming out of the Le Sexx Shoppe in old Pasadena at one time. So all the corruption of the Catholic church is no worse than the corruption in Armstrongism.

So if I were Prophet Thiel I would not be too quick to dump damnation on the Catholic Church because his own mother church (and current church) is no better.


COG's Have A Bad Attitude Problem: They Are Ignoring the End Time Prophet


COGers turning their backs on The Prophet

Prophet Malm has been on a roll since the Feast setting up his scenario on how an upcoming Arab/Israeli war which will draw in  the US and European nations that will utterly defeat the Hezbollah and the rest of the Muslim hoards.

He has also been spending a lot of time on the "New Moons" and various legalistic rules and regulations that COG members should be observing on those days.  Prophet Malm's directive for new moons can only be sighted first in the surrounding area of Jerusalem and at that immediate time it is applicable around the world for all COGers.. COG embers are then to have New Moon bible studies, wave palm and tree branches, blow horns and an odd assortment of other things that have no relevance for Christians.

But the Prophet has run into a cement wall and he is not happy.  He says he has taken his message to many of the COG leaders and they ignored him.

I stood up to try and present a warning and wake up call for the brethren in 2007, never intending to start any organization.  Rather I had hoped that at least some of these groups would be turned to a fuller relationship with God as groups.

It is clear that that is not going to happen; most of the leaders of these groups including most elders [not all] are very deeply entrenched in their traditions and are most comfortable in their ruts; they are also filled with pride and will not believe anything that does not originate from their own leadership.

I remember an instance way back in about 1983/84 when I had discussed a matter with an elder and he actually said: “I never looked at this in that way before, you are quite right; but if it was important it would have come from Mr. Armstrong.”  Of course that threw a wet blanket on any zeal for real study and thought;  I an happy to say that it did not discourage my studies although it did disillusion me as to the attitude of the elders.

That attitude is rampant today; there is so much arrogant pride that no one will take an honest interest in anything not originated by their group and leaders.  That will be their downfall and they will not heed any warning until they are forced to do so when their fears come upon them to humble them.

Those stupid, blinded ministers are ignoring his prophetic message!  He and he alone has the final word on how the end times is going to go down.

Because the ministers are ignoring him (as they should) he is attempting to take his message to the people of the COG's. Sadly he is failing miserably with them too:

Right now there are a few hundred folks spread around the world studying and receiving the truth with joy.

There are another thousand or more who are sitting on the fence to see how things turn out.  Quite frankly they are gun shy over all the false teachers and deceitful leaders in all of these groups including folks like Ron Weinland.  These people are following the advice of Gamaliel and taking a wait and see attitude; at the same time many of them have studied intensively through the sites.  They are just not ready to leave their friends etc for an unknown until they see the fruits clearly.

Maybe the reason they are not moving to join you is that they are sick of the constant divisions, backstabbing and lying that goes on  in the COG's. Maybe they are right to see what develops with the fruit of your ministry.  All we need is another Herbert Armstrong disastrous 1972 prophecy where people sell their homes, quit work, stop medical care, etc as they wait to be taken to Petra for 3 1/2 years of bliss.

But just like HWA, the Prophet gets around talking full responsibility for his words in the lives of others.  Herb always said, 'Don't believe me, believe your Bible."  The Prophet Malm has more than one little catch phrase though.  This is that he says in order to take blame from his shoulders in case some COGders are idiots and do something foolish. (we all know THAT would never happen......Ha.)

I do NOT want anyone to be able to say that I deceived them into anything.  It is very important that you be convinced in your own minds as to what you should do.

1)   I have been warning of this conflict in considerable detail since early 2007.

2)   I have presented  doctrine that is solidly based on God’s commandments.

3)   I have said that I am NOT trying to set up any corporate church; and that is the truth.  I have no intention of doing so.

4)   I believe that some will be under pressure to leave their groups early and may have to stand alone or with small groups of family and friends for a short time.

5)   In the near future each person will see the full fruits of these groups as well as myself and when the abomination is set up, it will be decision time.

6)   After the abomination is set up in Rome; God’s two prophets will be empowered and they will tell everyone what to do.  It will then be decision time.  Some will believe the warning having seen the fruits of this effort; while many will refuse the warning and will stay.  That will be the final dividing of the pillars from the Lax and Lukewarm.

So all of this is really a preparation for the potential setting up of the Abomination of Desolation right before the Feast of 2012.  The Prophet is hoping that some courageous minister/s will set up an independent Feast site.  Then the Prophet will step in and proclaim his message.

Remember when Spanky Meredith did such a thing? While he was being defended for a slander case by Leona McNair, he had his minions working behind the scenes to set up a new Church which he stepped into after WCG got stuck paying a huge settlement for Meredith's lying mouth.  But Meredith was a slick cookie in all of this.  By having them set this church corporation up he could then just slide in as if he had nothing to do with it, other than being asked by the members to take over.

I am sincerely hoping that some elders will take a stand and that they will be able to put on a Feast for God’s faithful who come out early.

I also understand that if this war and all these things happen; followed by the setting up of the abomination right before the Feast; that it will be a matter of intense conversation during the Feast and very many will be making up their minds at that time.  The two prophets should be set up after the Feast, if 2012 is to be the year. Many people will then be ready to recognize God’s true two prophets by their scriptural description and by their sound doctrine and fruits.
Then the Prophet gets to utter another favorite COG catch Phrase that is a loaded comment.  Because the Prophet has been doing a mighty work he pictures himself as a John the Baptist who is preparing the way for the Two Witnesses.  Once they come on to the scene the Prophet will step aside and relinquish all prophetic utterances.  So we get to hear once again about "Passing the Baton."  How many times has that damn thing been passed over the last 25 years?  We are hitting close to 600 some splinter cults now of Armstrongism.  All claiming to be the best resurrection of the mother church as possible.

The Prophet's mission boils down to this;

My mission to to wake as many up as possible, to turn as many as possible to a deep study of God’s word.  To turn as many as possible away from idolizing other men and organizations and stir up a zeal for truth and the removal of error.  My mission is to begin to restore what has been lost through the ages and to reveal new understandings based solidly on God’s word.

So once again we see that God is an impotent idiot that could not keep his Word alive for 1,900 years.  Somewhere along the line God lost it till Herbert found it, then it was lost again and now the Prophet Malm has found it.  Perhaps Malm's God needs to buy a Clapper Key Ring so he can find the lost gospel  the next time around.

Yet, the Apostle would be most grateful for someone to start a Feast site for him.  His message is so vitally important that he needs to get the word out the the lost COGgers. SO get busy folks!  Get your feast research gears running and fine a location that will hold several thousand so that the world's final Elijah, John the Baptist, can come and spread his message of hyper-legalistc law keeping to the lost.

I know what my mission is, and it is not to create a corporate church organization.  It is to call out to ALL such groups and to ALL God’s people and to prepare them for the crisis at the close of the age.

I want everyone to understand that if I get involved in setting up Feast sites or organizing groups; it will be a distraction from my work.

The absolute decision time will be after the full fruits of my effort and the various groups become clear and the abomination is set up.

In the meantime if some come out or are forced out of their groups early; I advise them to spend serious time in prayer and study rather than jumping from one organization to another.

If there are those who want to organize a Feast site and run it themselves, I would be most happy to hear from them.